COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Dizzy28]

I saw that you needed to add context to what was previously a non contextual comparison.

Your'e so far down the hole you didn't realize you just made the point anyhows.

Add Jamaica to that and any point in trying to link vaccines to deaths goes out the window

No.

Jamaica has a lower vaccinated population.

Jamaica has never had a high prevelance of recorded COVID-related deaths.

Jamaica has never been deemed a hot-spot.

Honey, you just don't see the point that was made in the first place.

[adnj]

South Africa study suggests Omicron could displace Delta

Dec 28 (Reuters) - Research by South African scientists suggests that Omicron could displace the Delta variant of the coronavirus because infection with the new variant boosts immunity to the older one.

The study only covered a small group of people and has not been peer-reviewed, but it found that people who were infected with Omicron, especially those who were vaccinated, developed enhanced immunity to the Delta variant.

The analysis enrolled 33 vaccinated and unvaccinated people who were infected with the Omicron variant in South Africa.

While the authors found that neutralisation of Omicron increased 14-fold over 14 days after the enrolment, they also found that there was a 4.4-fold increase in neutralisation of the Delta variant.

"The increase in Delta variant neutralization in individuals infected with Omicron may result in decreased ability of Delta to re-infect those individuals," the scientists who conducted the study said.

The results of the study are "consistent with Omicron displacing the Delta variant, since it can elicit immunity which neutralizes Delta making re-infection with Delta less likely," they said.


https://www.reuters.com/business/health ... 021-12-28/

[widdyphuck]

Predictions for today...

[hover11]

A new study suggests immunocompromised people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are more likely to have breakthrough infections than people without weakened immune systems.

https://www.facebook.com/86680728811/po ... 744733812/

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A new study suggests immunocompromised people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are more likely to have breakthrough infections than people without weakened immune systems.

https://www.facebook.com/86680728811/po ... 744733812/

Well no sheit.
In other news,water is wet

[Kenjo]

A new study suggests immunocompromised people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are more likely to have breakthrough infections than people without weakened immune systems.

https://www.facebook.com/86680728811/po ... 744733812/

Well no sheit.
In other news,water is wet

Ent it’s like why were they vaccinated first when supplies were new and limited

[adnj]

A new study suggests immunocompromised people who are fully vaccinated against COVID-19 are more likely to have breakthrough infections than people without weakened immune systems.

https://www.facebook.com/86680728811/po ... 744733812/

Well no sheit.
In other news,water is wet

Ent it’s like why were they vaccinated first when supplies were new and limited

And first to get vaccine boosters.

[K74T]

360/16

[hover11]

Readings for this entire week will be skewed

[widdyphuck]

Brace yourselves.
We know better than to trust those results

[Dohplaydat]

I know an entire family group (17 people, 4 houses) that limed on xmas eve and Christmas day. All of them have symptoms today, but the household that is unvaccinated has it especially bad, my friend said they were contemplating calling an ambulance for the father (in his 40s) today.

That is most likely omicron since all the vaxxed have symptoms but it's quite mild. My friend isn't even sure if he has symptoms since he said it feels like allergies except he feels unusually tired too.

Oh none of them have gone for testing since they don't want to pay for a PCR and they said the state labs take forever to get you your results as well.

So yea, the caseload in T&T is probably at least 5x higher than reported.

[redmanjp]

hope they at least quarantining. they should still test as contact tracing depends on that. its not just for their own sake or to add to the stats.

[hover11]

hope they at least quarantining. they should still test as contact tracing depends on that. its not just for their own sake or to add to the stats.

Imagine if everyone who experiencing symptoms decided not to test and be under quarantine and simply went about their business because the state tests take too long....

[DMan7]

Numbers low today but then again only 465 tests done today yet 360 newly positive cases which puts it at 77.4% positivity rate.

[Mmoney607]

People just seem intent on ignoring that vaccinated and unvaccinated can get and spread covid. So then antivaxxers should be allowed to make there points.

[redmanjp]

Numbers low today but then again only 465 tests done today yet 360 newly positive cases which puts it at 77.4% positivity rate.

the +ve cases are always from multiple days tho

[paid_influencer]

good to see numbers coming down

[DMan7]

Numbers low today but then again only 465 tests done today yet 360 newly positive cases which puts it at 77.4% positivity rate.

the +ve cases are always from multiple days tho

Yea I know but there is no way for us to know that information. The best we have is to put the value as daily cases / daily tests. Not even MOH puts that information out as they have "Reported in the last 24hrs" under the number of new positive cases.

[redmanjp]

People just seem intent on ignoring that vaccinated and unvaccinated can get and spread covid. So then antivaxxers should be allowed to make there points.

not at the same rate. watch from 2:00

[Mmoney607]

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People just seem intent on ignoring that vaccinated and unvaccinated can get and spread covid. So then antivaxxers should be allowed to make there points.

not at the same rate. watch from 2:00

This is a veryyy old video.

[paid_influencer]

Numbers low today but then again only 465 tests done today yet 360 newly positive cases which puts it at 77.4% positivity rate.

the +ve cases are always from multiple days tho

Yea I know but there is no way for us to know that information. The best we have is to put the value as daily cases / daily tests. Not even MOH puts that information out as they have "Reported in the last 24hrs" under the number of new positive cases.

Hinds in his presentation often gives monthly averages of positivity rate. Last graph he put up had us at 80% positivity rate for November.

[redmanjp]

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People just seem intent on ignoring that vaccinated and unvaccinated can get and spread covid. So then antivaxxers should be allowed to make there points.

not at the same rate. watch from 2:00

This is a veryyy old video.

efficacy may have fallen with variants but its not zero. especially with a booster dose. u are implying that its no different and that it is in fact zero.

[widdyphuck]

No party boat guys.
It was a "floating restaurant"

Smh. The audacity of these people.

[DMan7]

Numbers low today but then again only 465 tests done today yet 360 newly positive cases which puts it at 77.4% positivity rate.

the +ve cases are always from multiple days tho

Yea I know but there is no way for us to know that information. The best we have is to put the value as daily cases / daily tests. Not even MOH puts that information out as they have "Reported in the last 24hrs" under the number of new positive cases.

Hinds in his presentation often gives monthly averages of positivity rate. Last graph he put up had us at 80% positivity rate for November.

Well we get through then, or is that gone through?

[paid_influencer]

efficacy may have fallen with variants but its not zero. especially with a booster dose. u are implying that its no different and that it is in fact zero.

not to spook anybody, but there's a possibility that vaccine effectiveness can infact fall to below zero. Negative effectiveness.

[redmanjp]

efficacy may have fallen with variants but its not zero. especially with a booster dose. u are implying that its no different and that it is in fact zero.

not to spook anybody, but there's a possibility that vaccine effectiveness can infact fall to below zero. Negative effectiveness.

perhaps only if vaxxed ppl lower their guard and go out like dpd to a million and one limes and get infected

[paid_influencer]

some update on the variant situation

- CDC revised its estimates on Omicron. They previously declared it was 73% for last week, this was subsequently revised downward to 22%. This week's (current) estimate is 56%.

So Delta is still hold its own right now.

and, Delta is continuing to evolve. Apparently they sequenced a Delta case with 22 mutations. So Delta and Omicron might be fighting back and forth for dominance going forward.

[adnj]

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People just seem intent on ignoring that vaccinated and unvaccinated can get and spread covid. So then antivaxxers should be allowed to make there points.

not at the same rate. watch from 2:00

This is a veryyy old video.

For delta prevalent nations with omicron spreading:

Because vaccines provide some protection against passing the virus to others, the tipping point for transmission was higher. Once eight in 10 people were vaccinated, more than half of transmission came from the vaccinated.

https://www.colorado.edu/today/2021/12/ ... ad-omicron

[adnj]

efficacy may have fallen with variants but its not zero. especially with a booster dose. u are implying that its no different and that it is in fact zero.

not to spook anybody, but there's a possibility that vaccine effectiveness can infact fall to below zero. Negative effectiveness.

perhaps only if vaxxed ppl lower their guard and go out like dpd to a million and one limes and get infected

Negative efficacy is typically a result of the study design and/or sample size where the results straddle the negative outcomes.

Though behavior can impact the study results, in a well-designed study, these variations are accounted for.

Edit: similarly for effectiveness, poor data selection can result in negative results.

[paid_influencer]

original antigenic sin tho