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But but but isnt this the same Boris Johnson who said he dont care about the science, he said we have to live with it and can't let science keep us backpaid_influencer wrote:not sure what's going on itt right now, but
BBC News (UK)
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"Do not make the mistake of thinking Omicron can't hurt you"
PM Boris Johnson urges every eligible adult to get a booster vaccine by the end of the year, as he declares an "Omicron emergency"
https://bbc.in/3ynNaBp
matr1x wrote:How could an uninfected non vaccinated person pose a risk to a fully vax. Stop wasting ppl time
DMan7 wrote:All this back and forth conversation just because hoover can't or won't admit he likes meat?
89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
Ok cheerleaderDMan7 wrote:All this back and forth conversation just because hoover can't or won't admit he likes meat?
hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
“By data as of Saturday, we had noted and confirmed that among the 1,437 total fatalities that would have occurred since we began to count fatalities among vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals, what we would have noted is that 56 of those, which is about 3.8 per cent, would have been individuals who would have had two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine on board, more than two weeks after their vaccination regimen had been completed.”
Still can't make that statement without a reasonable doubt, also we have to remember not all covid deaths means the person died from covid there are some sickly ppl who were facing their own medical traumas before contracting covidst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
lulz. but that's what you constantly do with your "lets be real" and "read in between the lines" talk. and then when it's stated how many unvaxxed died vs vaccinated, you quiet.
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/56-covi ... ds-reveals
November 15, 2021“By data as of Saturday, we had noted and confirmed that among the 1,437 total fatalities that would have occurred since we began to count fatalities among vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals, what we would have noted is that 56 of those, which is about 3.8 per cent, would have been individuals who would have had two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine on board, more than two weeks after their vaccination regimen had been completed.”
going by that 3.8 death rate in vaxxed persons, if the total count today is 2300, then 87 vaxxed ppl total have died (31 from nov 15 to today)
hover11 wrote:Still can't make that statement without a reasonable doubt, also we have to remember not all covid deaths means the person died from covid there are some sickly ppl who were facing their own medical tramas before contracting covidst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
lulz. but that's what you constantly do with your "lets be real" and "read in between the lines" talk. and then when it's stated how many unvaxxed died vs vaccinated, you quiet.
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/56-covi ... ds-reveals
November 15, 2021“By data as of Saturday, we had noted and confirmed that among the 1,437 total fatalities that would have occurred since we began to count fatalities among vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals, what we would have noted is that 56 of those, which is about 3.8 per cent, would have been individuals who would have had two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine on board, more than two weeks after their vaccination regimen had been completed.”
going by that 3.8 death rate in vaxxed persons, if the total count today is 2300, then 87 vaxxed ppl total have died (31 from nov 15 to today)
hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
Your question related to the gentleman's aforementioned statement which is what I was referring to. Keep up will you, you sleeping awaDe Dragon wrote:hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
Statements typically don't have a question mark at their ends. I asked a question, which I notice you're studiously avoiding answering.
hover11 wrote:Still can't make that statement without a reasonable doubt, also we have to remember not all covid deaths means the person died from covid there are some sickly ppl who were facing their own medical traumas before contracting covidst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
lulz. but that's what you constantly do with your "lets be real" and "read in between the lines" talk. and then when it's stated how many unvaxxed died vs vaccinated, you quiet.
https://tt.loopnews.com/content/56-covi ... ds-reveals
November 15, 2021“By data as of Saturday, we had noted and confirmed that among the 1,437 total fatalities that would have occurred since we began to count fatalities among vaccinated versus unvaccinated individuals, what we would have noted is that 56 of those, which is about 3.8 per cent, would have been individuals who would have had two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine on board, more than two weeks after their vaccination regimen had been completed.”
going by that 3.8 death rate in vaxxed persons, if the total count today is 2300, then 87 vaxxed ppl total have died (31 from nov 15 to today)
hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
Isn't most of the vaccinated population, innoculated with sinopharm as that was our sole choice as far as vaccines for a good while? Huh would be interesting to see what happens closer to Januarypaid_influencer wrote:sinopharm, in the best case scenario (2-weeks post-vaccination, no elderly patients, and against ancestral strain), was 79% effective against severe disease.
Where does it fall now, 6 months+ post vaccination, in elderly patients, and against Delta? I don't know, but it is clearly going to be lower than that 79%.
Everybody is at risk now, both vaccinated and unvaccinated.
and that's even before we start getting omicron spreading on the island.
hover11 wrote:Your question related to the gentleman's aforementioned statement which is what I was referring to. Keep up will you, you sleeping awaDe Dragon wrote:hover11 wrote:89 percent.....also you still can't make that statement without proofDe Dragon wrote:So hover, with 90% unvaxxed in the hospitals, what do you think the chances of those 24 deaths being unvaxxed?
Statements typically don't have a question mark at their ends. I asked a question, which I notice you're studiously avoiding answering.
. Anyway , he who alleges must prove if you know it is 24 unvaxxed or believe such bring evidence otherwise you just speculating
Time to repost for the intentionally obtuse.hover11 wrote:So "Omicron can evade the protection initial vaccines". But the booster, which is the exact same thing as the initial vaccines "better protect against the newest variant" even though they are identical? I call BS
Sinopharm arrived in march and please remember AstraZeneca had it's bad publicity due to clotting issues and ppl making noise over that , when pfizer first arrived it was for children only.st7 wrote:we had AZ from May to July, sino had reached mid july if i not mistaken.
then in mid august we got more AZ, and JnJ
then september was Pfizer.
anyway... keep carrying on 'making statements without proof' frother
They gonna hit that mark this week by Friday or Sat if everything remains the samebluefete wrote:Hmmmmm.
I wonder if the death rate will fall after we hit the magical 2,500 and the gov't gets the money.
Current TTO vaccine usage. Of course this doesn't account for the purported 100,000 people that upgraded from Sinopharm that was previously posted in the thread.st7 wrote:we had AZ from May to July, sino had reached mid july if i not mistaken.
then in mid august we got more AZ, and JnJ
then september was Pfizer.
anyway... keep carrying on 'making statements without proof' frother
adnj wrote:Current TTO vaccine usage. Of course this doesn't account for the purported 100,000 people that upgraded from Sinopharm that was previously posted in the thread.st7 wrote:we had AZ from May to July, sino had reached mid july if i not mistaken.
then in mid august we got more AZ, and JnJ
then september was Pfizer.
anyway... keep carrying on 'making statements without proof' frother
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