Ukraine Russia War

[adnj]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

Ukraine attacked Dzhankoi Air Base in Crimea.
The weapons used could have been kamikaze drones or ATACMS cluster missiles.

Ukraine also said its forces took out multiple S-400 launchers during the attack.

They were not peer advisories and you know that, the US army was vastly superior

You really think Ukraine and Russia were peer adversaries? This is what they looked like in Feb 2022.

This has spiraled into something unrecognizable.

There is no anecdotal fallacy. There have been three major conflicts concerning a foreign invasion in the post-Cold War era - Iraq 2003, Ukraine 2014 and Ukraine 2022.

In each instance, the invasion did not present a 3-to-1 numerical troop advantage for the attacking army.

An invading army does not have expectation of greater number of KIA as a consequence of battle nor should they. In fact, greater loses are the very reason NOT to invade - and that has been the written doctrine in military strategy since at least 500 BC.

Russia possesses one of the most capable militaries in the world, and has proven time and time again that is not enough for them to win an asymmetrical war with Ukraine.

Russia has also made it certain that by the year 2030, most of the few remaining neutral European countries will have aligned with NATO. And Ukraine, whether it is made whole or not, will become a full member.

[Dohplaydat]

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This has spiraled into something unrecognizable.

There is no anecdotal fallacy. There have been three major conflicts concerning a foreign invasion in the post-Cold War era - Iraq 2003, Ukraine 2014 and Ukraine 2022.

In each instance, the invasion did not present a 3-to-1 numerical troop advantage for the attacking army.

I'm not saying it's always the case, but it's what most invading armies try to follow, whether it's valid or not. There's several other factors that need to be considered, but it does stand to reason that invading armies suffer more losses.

https://www.dupuyinstitute.org/blog/tag ... 20invasion.

An invading army does not have expectation of greater number of KIA as a consequence of battle nor should they. In fact, greater loses are the very reason NOT to invade - and that has been the written doctrine in military strategy since at least 500 BC.

Not true, there is often an expectation that invading armies (when facing a near peer advisory, will suffer huge losses. Look at the D-Day invasions and compare allied losses with axis loses.

Russia possesses one of the most capable militaries in the world, and has proven time and time again that is not enough for them to win an asymmetrical war with Ukraine.

I don't disagree, they started horribly unprepared despite being a technically strong army. However, we have to note they've mostly gotten their act together now and are performing a lot better in all areas.

Russia has also made it certain that by the year 2030, most of the few remaining neutral European countries will have aligned with NATO. And Ukraine, whether it is made whole or not, will become a full member.

Agreed, Russia has screwed itself into a corner with NATO, which is why they're also going full war economy to ensure that they remain a respected threat and possibly even 'invade' NATO countries in the Baltic. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that Russia and instigate uprisings in those countries with large Russian speaking populations and cause civil unrest or breakaway regions. Then they send in peacekeepers to protect their 'people' and slowly instigate sections of the country to scede. Will NATO instigate article 5 in those scenarios? Highly unlikely because despite NATO being strong, they're also afraid of war with Russia. Ukraine joining NATO is a pipe dream now as Russia will likely conquer most of the country of by 2025.

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Not true, there is often an expectation that invading armies (when facing a near peer advisory, will suffer huge losses. Look at the D-Day invasions and compare allied losses with axis loses.

For the actual Normandy Invasion, losses (killed, wounded and missing) were 230,000 for all Allied Forces.

Germany suffered losses of 320,000.

If you decide to look at the Germans' Eastern front, you will get a different story. The Soviet Union and Russia, before and since, have a history of indifference with respect to losing front line soldiers.

[Dohplaydat]

Russia making/refurbishing 100 tracks per month. They're producing 3 times more artillery than NATO.

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

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Russia making/refurbishing 100 tracks per month. They're producing 3 times more artillery than NATO.

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

Russia was losing more than 100 tanks per month and has currently lost their entire stock of modern tanks.

By 2027, they may be back to where they were at the start of 2022.

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Russia making/refurbishing 100 tracks per month. They're producing 3 times more artillery than NATO.

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

Russia was losing more than 100 tanks per month and has currently lost their entire stock of modern tanks.

By 2027, they may be back to where they were at the start of 2022.

Regime change in Ukraine by July.
Either elenski takes a chunk of the next money us sends and escapes, or the banderites take him out.

Ukraine will have a more russia sympathetic regime before the new year

[Dohplaydat]

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Russia making/refurbishing 100 tracks per month. They're producing 3 times more artillery than NATO.

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

Russia was losing more than 100 tanks per month and has currently lost their entire stock of modern tanks.

By 2027, they may be back to where they were at the start of 2022.

They're currently replacing tanks faster than they're losing them though.

Also, due to FPV drones, tanks have not really been a game changer this war for either side.

Look how disappointing the impact of the challenger 2 and lepords have been. Most have probably been destroyed or hiding in the backlines.

[adnj]

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

Ukraine Russia war: US House passes crucial Ukrainian aid deal worth $61bn

The $61bn (£49bn) package passed by 311 votes to 112.

Russia's newly increased defense budget is $84bn compared to the US defense budget of nearly $1tn.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us- ... n=BBCS_BBC

[Dohplaydat]

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

Ukraine Russia war: US House passes crucial Ukrainian aid deal worth $61bn

The $61bn (£49bn) package passed by 311 votes to 112.

Russia's newly increased defense budget is $84bn compared to the US defense budget of nearly $1tn.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us- ... n=BBCS_BBC

Money goes a lot further in Russia, not too mention the US MIC has way overinflated prices and lots of corruption.

I'm glad the aid package has finally been approved, but it feels like it's a bit too late to really make a big impact.

Time will tell.

[sMASH]

Russia has stepped up and committed, is the west serious about helping Ukraine?

Ukraine Russia war: US House passes crucial Ukrainian aid deal worth $61bn

The $61bn (£49bn) package passed by 311 votes to 112.

Russia's newly increased defense budget is $84bn compared to the US defense budget of nearly $1tn.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-us- ... n=BBCS_BBC

Money goes a lot further in Russia, not too mention the US MIC has way overinflated prices and lots of corruption.

I'm glad the aid package has finally been approved, but it feels like it's a bit too late to really make a big impact.

Time will tell.

That is elenski severance package, And he needs to read the music. Either he sack himself out or the banderites will do it for him.

[matr1x]

Ukraine going to lose...it's not even a matter of when

[Dohplaydat]

Ukraine going to lose...it's not even a matter of when

I agree though depends on how you define winning for Russia.

I don't think think they'll go for the entirety of Ukraine. I think they'll settle for eastern Ukraine and then pause attacks while they rebuild the country.

I do think they may try to cut Ukraine totally off the coast and go all the way to Oddessa, but not sure if that's possible.

[mkhitaryan888]

Ukraine will have a more russia sympathetic regime before the new year

More likely that a Banderite regime comes along next compared to a russia sympathetic regime. Keep in mind that the relatively more pro-russia (~20% of population) regions of Ukraine are now under Russian control.

[sMASH]

Ukraine going to lose...it's not even a matter of when

I agree though depends on how you define winning for Russia.

I don't think think they'll go for the entirety of Ukraine. I think they'll settle for eastern Ukraine and then pause attacks while they rebuild the country.

I do think they may try to cut Ukraine totally off the coast and go all the way to Oddessa, but not sure if that's possible.

U don't want to rule a country that is opposed to you. That is kinda Afghanistan.


It will just be partitioned, with agreements to not be nato aligned, not to have any nato associated weapons or military, no nazis.

... After being de militarized and de nazified.

The remainder of the country will be a neutral zone.

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/opf790y07Es?si=oXz8tlQZBrhc_3CH

Secret police in Ukraine

[Dohplaydat]

Ukraine going to lose...it's not even a matter of when

I agree though depends on how you define winning for Russia.

I don't think think they'll go for the entirety of Ukraine. I think they'll settle for eastern Ukraine and then pause attacks while they rebuild the country.

I do think they may try to cut Ukraine totally off the coast and go all the way to Oddessa, but not sure if that's possible.

U don't want to rule a country that is opposed to you. That is kinda Afghanistan.


It will just be partitioned, with agreements to not be nato aligned, not to have any nato associated weapons or military, no nazis.

... After being de militarized and de nazified.

The remainder of the country will be a neutral zone.

Ukraine isn't Afghanistan, they'll fall in line.

[Dizzy28]

America admitted yesterday they sent long range ATACMS to Ukraine since March. That 200miles version doubles the range of the previous ATACMS sent.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/04/24/poli ... index.html

This is how Ukraine was able to take out those components of Russian S300 and S400s in Dzankhoi, Occupiped Crimea last week.
https://www.twz.com/news-features/major ... ian-attack

[sMASH]

Not sure if true, but America did caution Ukraine against the oil hits, as it will send oil markets up, and America can't tolerate that.

Wtf elenski thinking?

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/oeYAA7I7nhE?si=qafjN5a8-4nxI-5B

University students protesting the war, Isreal got disrupted and arrested. A journalist was even arrested

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/9C2vPzWhm7Y?si=UHF0JAymvFy2jBMC

Amnetsty international talking about mass graves and holding the responsible party to account

[Dizzy28]

https://youtu.be/9C2vPzWhm7Y?si=UHF0JAymvFy2jBMC

Amnetsty international talking about mass graves and holding the responsible party to account

You probably meant this for another thread.
But funny you bring up Amnesty. Of more relevance to this thread your pals the Russkis have also been identified by AI as being involved in numerous war crimes over the past two years.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/amnest ... -1.6443704
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/eur ... t-ukraine/

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/9C2vPzWhm7Y?si=UHF0JAymvFy2jBMC

Amnetsty international talking about mass graves and holding the responsible party to account

You probably meant this for another thread.
But funny you bring up Amnesty. Of more relevance to this thread your pals the Russkis have also been identified by AI as being involved in numerous war crimes over the past two years.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/amnest ... -1.6443704
https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/eur ... t-ukraine/

Trying to draw the comparison to the bucha massacre (sp).

The west went nuts trying to sell it as some massive Russian war crime, but in gaza it happens practically monthly, and they deny cause they can't pin it on hamas.

At the time, all the sources I followed said the bucha was Ukrainian forces abusing pro Russian areas.

[sMASH]

Some for entertainment, some to examine the engineering to determine strengths and vulnerabilities.

Some speculating that more Bradleys will be heading to Ukraine. The military aid to Ukraine will be primarily a dumping ground for older tech, to make room for modern hardware.

[sMASH]

Has the spring offensive started yet?

[Dohplaydat]

I would take anything from a UK minister with a grain of salt.

Meanwhile,

[Dohplaydat]

I would take anything from a UK minister with a grain of salt.

Meanwhile,

And this...

[sMASH]

Ghosts capturing equipment...
And this one seems undamaged, like abandoned

[Dohplaydat]

Ghosts capturing equipment...
And this one seems undamaged, like abandoned IMG_20240429_055728.jpg

Thew Leopard 2s and Challengers have been very disappointing in this war.

The US Bradleys have really shined though!

[sMASH]

They getting rid of the old inventory to revamp the military industrial contracts.

Ukraine sovereignty my foot.

[adnj]

"The United States has reportedly procured 81 outdated Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan. The purpose behind the US acquisition remains undisclosed, but speculation suggests potential deployment in Ukraine, where similar aircraft are still in service."