Ukraine Russia War

[sMASH]

All that plus selling treasury bonds to fund government and depleting petrochemical reserves while driving dedolorization csuse sanctioning left right and center, and u have bidennomics.


Man say Russia economy collapsing. Next ting he will say is Ukraine take back crimea.
Yo, stick to electronics.

[Dohplaydat]

Russia is not collapsing anytime soon. Their wealth fund is massive, debt is very low, China and India trade is booming and they're skirting sanctions.

They're innovating, growing and dominating on the battlefield.

Not to even mention the discord they're sowing in the west by funding right wing parties and proxy wars.


It's safe to say we have grossly underestimated out enemy by falling for shitty western propaganda

[sMASH]

160k troops have been mobilized.
Ukraine will not be allowed to be part of nato.

All they had to do was let the eastern regions secede.. Now the whole of Ukraine will secede

Memorialized.

Put it on a stamp

Hmmm


Ukraine reduced the age of military conscripts from 27 to 23.
And the average age is 48...
Elenski fighting with elderly and the youths. Where is army went?
... His mighty nato trained army

[sMASH]

Russia is crumbling

[alfa]

I've never followed up this whole war but how many times Russia lost their 'last' battleship or most powerful plane and we'll lose soon yet the war still going on lol

[Dohplaydat]

I've never followed up this whole war but how many times Russia lost their 'last' battleship or most powerful plane and we'll lose soon yet the war still going on lol

Yea it's all been western propaganda that attempts to diminish Russia.

From the start I always doubted it, and now the narrative is changing to 'what if Russia wins'?.

[Dizzy28]

Yes let's not diminish Russia guys. Tanks that look like the resources starved Syrian rebels built them and not a world superpower is entirely normal

[Dohplaydat]

Yes let's not diminish Russia guys. Tanks that look like the resources starved Syrian rebels built them and not a world superpower is entirely normal Screenshot_20240417-093735.jpg

That tank is showing up on numerous places on the battlefield, it's equipped with tones of EW equipment. Looks like sheit but it's working.

[adnj]

Another sign of Russian military competence:

“Mobilized Russians are immediately taken to the front—without any preparation,” human rights group Perviy Otdel warned in a Telegram post. “We were officially told there would be no training before we are sent to the war zone,” one mobilized Russian said in a video shared by Perviy Otdel.

[size=150][b]Russia's meat grinder soldiers - 50,000 confirmed dead[/b][/size]

7 hours ago
By Olga Ivshina, Becky Dale & Kirstie Brewer, BBC Russian

[b]Russia's military death toll in Ukraine has now passed the 50,000 mark, the BBC can confirm.
[/b]
In the second 12 months on the front line - as Moscow pushed its so-called meat grinder strategy - we found the body count was nearly 25% higher than in the first year.

BBC Russian, independent media group Mediazona and volunteers have been counting deaths since February 2022.

New graves in cemeteries helped provide the names of many soldiers.

Our teams also combed through open-source information from official reports, newspapers and social media.

More than 27,300 Russian soldiers died in the second year of combat - according to our findings - a reflection of how territorial gains have come at a huge human cost.

Russia has declined to comment.

The term meat grinder has been used to describe the way Moscow sends waves of soldiers forward relentlessly to try to wear down Ukrainian forces and expose their locations to Russian artillery.

The overall death toll - of more than 50,000 - is eight times higher than the only official public acknowledgement of fatality numbers ever given by Moscow in September 2022.

The actual number of Russian deaths is likely to be much higher.

Our analysis does not include the deaths of militia in Russian-occupied Donetsk and Luhansk - in eastern Ukraine. If they were added, the death toll on the Russian side would be even higher.

Ukraine, meanwhile, rarely comments on the scale of its battlefield fatalities. In February, President Volodymyr Zelensky said 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed - but estimates, based on US intelligence, suggest greater losses.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-68819853

[sMASH]

The total russian death is 50k.


The Ukrainian death toll was 100k in December 2022, as said by Ursula von de lyen on a live broad cast, with same figure posted from her Twitter account at the same time

Its a meat grinder for Ukraine.


Whole battalions are surrenderring to Russia, rather than fight an unwinnable battle

[Dohplaydat]

Another sign of Russian military competence:

“Mobilized Russians are immediately taken to the front—without any preparation,” human rights group Perviy Otdel warned in a Telegram post. “We were officially told there would be no training before we are sent to the war zone,” one mobilized Russian said in a video shared by Perviy Otdel.

Russia's meat grinder soldiers - 50,000 confirmed dead

7 hours ago
By Olga Ivshina, Becky Dale & Kirstie Brewer, BBC Russian

Russia's military death toll in Ukraine has now passed the 50,000 mark, the BBC can confirm.

In the second 12 months on the front line - as Moscow pushed its so-called meat grinder strategy - we found the body count was nearly 25% higher than in the first year.

BBC Russian, independent media group Mediazona and volunteers have been counting deaths since February 2022.

New graves in cemeteries helped provide the names of many soldiers.

Our teams also combed through open-source information from official reports, newspapers and social media.

More than 27,300 Russian soldiers died in the second year of combat - according to our findings - a reflection of how territorial gains have come at a huge human cost.

Russia has declined to comment.

The term meat grinder has been used to describe the way Moscow sends waves of soldiers forward relentlessly to try to wear down Ukrainian forces and expose their locations to Russian artillery.

The overall death toll - of more than 50,000 - is eight times higher than the only official public acknowledgement of fatality numbers ever given by Moscow in September 2022.

The actual number of Russian deaths is likely to be much higher.

Our analysis does not include the deaths of militia in Russian-occupied Donetsk and Luhansk - in eastern Ukraine. If they were added, the death toll on the Russian side would be even higher.

Ukraine, meanwhile, rarely comments on the scale of its battlefield fatalities. In February, President Volodymyr Zelensky said 31,000 Ukrainian soldiers had been killed - but estimates, based on US intelligence, suggest greater losses.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-68819853

50k dead versus 30k Ukrainians...... Something about this meat grinder narrative doesn't really add up does it.

Not saying they haven't done it, but it's probably way over blown.

Invading armies typically occur 3 to 1 deaths versus defending armies. Ukraine is unfortunately losing a lot of men.

Hence why they've now lowered the conscription age.

They're running out of men and ammunition.

Feels like we all underestimated Russia.

[sMASH]

Securing the donbas, de militarization, de nazification.
Because of nato sentiment when things freeze, there will be regime change and oddessa.


Elenski is getting one more package with 8bn in direct cash. If he doesn't leave and start a new life then the banderites will end this.


The ground is hardening for Russian tanks. By July elenski will demit office

[adnj]

[quote="Dohplaydat"]

50k dead versus 30k Ukrainians...... Something about this meat grinder narrative doesn't really add up does it.

Not saying they haven't done it, but it's probably way over blown.

Invading armies typically occur 3 to 1 deaths versus defending armies. Ukraine is unfortunately losing a lot of men.

Hence why they've now lowered the conscription age.

They're running out of men and ammunition.

Feels like we all underestimated Russia.

ru-pov-nobody-cares-how-many-people-are-dying-in-ukraine-v0-05e2hsw6h1vc1.jpeg[/quote]

Huh? [i]Typical wounded vs KIA [/i]is about 3 to 1.

Iraq War:
Coalition forces (~400,000)
Total dead: 27,163

Iraqi Armed Forces and Sunni Insurgents (~470,000)
Total dead: 71,544

[sMASH]

https://youtube.com/shorts/XgFVOnGOmgs? ... Qb35Xg0wDK


Ukraine conscripting downsyndrome people cause they loose so many lives.

Like, give up already...

[Dohplaydat]

50k dead versus 30k Ukrainians...... Something about this meat grinder narrative doesn't really add up does it.

Not saying they haven't done it, but it's probably way over blown.

Invading armies typically occur 3 to 1 deaths versus defending armies. Ukraine is unfortunately losing a lot of men.

Hence why they've now lowered the conscription age.

They're running out of men and ammunition.

Feels like we all underestimated Russia.

ru-pov-nobody-cares-how-many-people-are-dying-in-ukraine-v0-05e2hsw6h1vc1.jpeg

Huh? Typical wounded vs KIA is about 3 to 1.

Iraq War:
Coalition forces (~400,000)
Total dead: 27,163

Iraqi Armed Forces and Sunni Insurgents (~470,000)
Total dead: 71,544

Anecdotal fallacy.

That was not a peer advisory, Iraq's forces paled in comparison to the US.

Generally most military doctrines state the need for a 3 to 1 ratio for an invading army versus defending army.

It stands to reason logically that invading armies will suffer more losses.. especially russian invading armies that don't value human life.

[sMASH]

Hungary was here recently apparently.
Hungary thinks supporting Ukraine against Russia is stupid.
Wonder if their visit has anything to do with vene sanctions...
Prolly come to buy gas directly....
Curious...

[sMASH]

The us and France were kicked out...

[Dohplaydat]

Looks like the west is slowly accepting the reality of a Ukrainian defeat.

[Dizzy28]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw.

[Dohplaydat]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

[adnj]

Anecdotal fallacy.

That was not a peer advisory, Iraq's forces paled in comparison to the US.

Generally most military doctrines state the need for a 3 to 1 ratio for an invading army versus defending army.

It stands to reason logically that invading armies will suffer more losses.. especially russian invading armies that don't value human life.

During the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the US had 160,000 troops in theater out of a total of 460,000 US military personnel across all services. The Iraqis had 540,000 troops in active duty and 650,000 in reserve. The US invaded a country with a force that four times its size In fact, the Iraqi regular army had more personnel than all of the US Armed Forces combined.

During the invasion, the US had 200 KIAs. Iraq had more than 40,000.

[adnj]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

Ukraine attacked Dzhankoi Air Base in Crimea.
The weapons used could have been kamikaze drones or ATACMS cluster missiles.

Ukraine also said its forces took out multiple S-400 launchers during the attack.

[sMASH]

Carpet bombing an area tends to do that. America was way out of eveybody league technologically in those times.
They ran the world, they could destroy any conventional army.
But they can't fight resistence groups and win. Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

[Dizzy28]

Carpet bombing an area tends to do that. America was way out of eveybody league technologically in those times.
They ran the world, they could destroy any conventional army.
But they can't fight resistence groups and win. Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

Mairupol, Soledar, Bakhmut
Homs, Raqqa, Aleppo
Grozny

Carpet bombing and absolute devastion is the Russian way

[Dohplaydat]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

Ukraine attacked Dzhankoi Air Base in Crimea.
The weapons used could have been kamikaze drones or ATACMS cluster missiles.

Ukraine also said its forces took out multiple S-400 launchers during the attack.

They were not peer advisories and you know that, the US army was vastly superior

[Dizzy28]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

Ukraine attacked Dzhankoi Air Base in Crimea.
The weapons used could have been kamikaze drones or ATACMS cluster missiles.

Ukraine also said its forces took out multiple S-400 launchers during the attack.

They were not peer advisories and you know that, the US army was vastly superior

You really think Ukraine and Russia were peer adversaries? This is what they looked like in Feb 2022.

[Dohplaydat]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

Ukraine attacked Dzhankoi Air Base in Crimea.
The weapons used could have been kamikaze drones or ATACMS cluster missiles.

Ukraine also said its forces took out multiple S-400 launchers during the attack.

They were not peer advisories and you know that, the US army was vastly superior

You really think Ukraine and Russia were peer adversaries? This is what they looked like in Feb 2022.

This clearly doesn't count NATO supplied equipment

[sMASH]

Carpet bombing an area tends to do that. America was way out of eveybody league technologically in those times.
They ran the world, they could destroy any conventional army.
But they can't fight resistence groups and win. Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

Mairupol, Soledar, Bakhmut
Homs, Raqqa, Aleppo
Grozny

Carpet bombing and absolute devastion is the Russian way

Ukraine was a threat. Its actual war against an actual army.
Civilian casualties have been kept to a minimum.

America just invaded other countries citing WMD's. And admitted the wmd was fake.

That time, 'rules based order' was the moral to impose.

20 years later, u get to see it only applies to enemies and not to themselves.

Its order based rules, and the subjugate countries are upsetting the 'order'

[sMASH]

Ukraine just needs to wait it out and Russia will decay itself. A TU22 crashed during this mornings bombing runs to Ukraine.

The targets today were housing in Dnipro btw. 20240419_061455.jpg20240419_061457.jpg

And Ukraine lost 3t SU-25 jets to cluster bombs yesterday or so.

Russia is building up equipment and arms faster than Ukraine is being supplied by the best, they also have have a growing army whereas Ukraine is struggling to find men.

I think we all know what's inevitable, yet for some reason, people like you have been falling hook line and sinker for western propaganda.

Ukraine attacked Dzhankoi Air Base in Crimea.
The weapons used could have been kamikaze drones or ATACMS cluster missiles.

Ukraine also said its forces took out multiple S-400 launchers during the attack.

They were not peer advisories and you know that, the US army was vastly superior

You really think Ukraine and Russia were peer adversaries? This is what they looked like in Feb 2022.

This clearly doesn't count NATO supplied equipment

Nato propaganda.. It all started on 2022. Negating the nato build up since 2014

[Dizzy28]

Carpet bombing an area tends to do that. America was way out of eveybody league technologically in those times.
They ran the world, they could destroy any conventional army.
But they can't fight resistence groups and win. Afghanistan, and Vietnam.

Mairupol, Soledar, Bakhmut
Homs, Raqqa, Aleppo
Grozny

Carpet bombing and absolute devastion is the Russian way

Ukraine was a threat. Its actual war against an actual army.
Civilian casualties have been kept to a minimum.

America just invaded other countries citing WMD's. And admitted the wmd was fake.

That time, 'rules based order' was the moral to impose.

20 years later, u get to see it only applies to enemies and not to themselves.

Its order based rules, and the subjugate countries are upsetting the 'order'

They are not Palestesnians so you would not care and downplay the deaths but 8,000 is not a small number. And that's just one city the Russians have devasted. And that's verified civilian deaths. It may be more.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/mo ... 024-02-08/
https://www.hrw.org/feature/russia-ukra ... g-the-dead