The LGBTQ/Pride Debate Take 2

[adnj]

The children's agenda - again! These people are sick, sick, sick.

EXCLUSIVE: The trans school conspiracy exposed: Midwest teachers trade tips on 'subversively and quietly' transitioning kids without telling their parents, and skirting Republican gender laws, in workshop funded by federal government
By JAMES REINL, SOCIAL AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT, FOR DAILYMAIL.COM
PUBLISHED: 14:42 BST, 19 June 2023

Dozens of Midwestern teachers met online this week and traded tips on helping trans students change gender at school without their parents' knowledge, while criticizing a raft of new Republican laws on sex and identity.

Kimberly Martin, the DEI coordinator for Royal Oak Schools, which serves 5,000 K-12 students in Michigan, spoke about helping trans students keep their gender change a secret.

'We're working with our record-keeping system so that certain screens can't be seen by the parents … if there's a nickname in there we're trying to hide,' Martin told the online gathering.

Martin did not describe any subversive acts, but, later spoke about teachers addressing 'sexuality' with elementary students, who are aged between five and 10.

When talking about men, women, playground crushes, love, and marriage with youngsters, teachers should be wary of treating 'reinforced heterosexuality as the norm,' Martin said.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rents.html

So the teachers are pulling children into a dark room and forcing them to do what exactly? What are the children interested in doing that is immoral? That is illegal? What is the "agenda?"

[bluefete]

^^ The agenda is that you as a parent will be kept in the dark if your under 18 CHILD decides to transition to the opposite sex.

I know you are playing devil's advocate but Is that so hard to understand?

[bluefete]

They do not even want you to de-transition (go back to your original gender).

AMC pulls documentary featuring detransitioners from theaters in face of pressure
By David Propper June 19, 2023

A documentary featuring the journey of several detransitioners scheduled to hit the big screen this week was scrapped by AMC after activists mounted a pressure campaign to stop the film’s screening.

The major movie theater chain canceled showings of “No Way Back: The Reality of Gender-Affirming Care” yet producers of the film are claiming AMC caved to the demands of a transgender advocacy group called Queer Trans Project, according to Fox News.



One of the detransitioners in the film panned the cancellation during an interview with Fox News.

“I think it’s incredibly dangerous to set this precedent of suppressing free speech, suppressing viewpoints that basically are just unpopular or difficult to deal with,” Laura Becker said.

https://nypost.com/2023/06/19/amc-pulls ... -theaters/

[adnj]

^^ The agenda is that you as a parent will be kept in the dark if your under 18 CHILD decides to transition to the opposite sex.

I know you are playing devil's advocate but Is that so hard to understand?

What is difficult for me to understand:

How you have come to believe that some adolescents do not and cannot have issues based on their own feelings.
That all adolescents magically become aware and able to make personal choices only at the age of majority.
That with emancipated youth laws, teenage movie stars, teenage pop stars, teenage pilots, teenage soldiers, teenage workers, teenage marriage, teenage pregnancy, teenage dropouts, teenage criminals, teenage suicides, etc., you can conclude, with little to no information on the individual, that you know what is right and correct for them.
That you have decided that there is a one-size-fits-all approach for all children for all things related to sexual preference or identity.
That a minority of the population continues to aggressively fight to impose their will on others and expect any long term success, other than an opportunity to gripe and moan about it - and then gripe some more.

[alfa]

^^ The agenda is that you as a parent will be kept in the dark if your under 18 CHILD decides to transition to the opposite sex.

I know you are playing devil's advocate but Is that so hard to understand?

What is difficult for me to understand:

How you have come to believe that some adolescents do not and cannot have issues based on their own feelings.
That all adolescents magically become aware and able to make personal choices only at the age of majority.
That with emancipated youth laws, teenage movie stars, teenage pop stars, teenage pilots, teenage soldiers, teenage workers, teenage marriage, teenage pregnancy, teenage dropouts, teenage criminals, teenage suicides, etc., you can conclude, with little to no information on the individual, that you know what is right and correct for them.
That you have decided that there is a one-size-fits-all approach for all children for all things related to sexual preference or identity.
That a minority of the population continues to aggressively fight to impose their will on others and expect any long term success, other than an opportunity to gripe and moan about it - and then gripe some more.

Then I guess we should allow kids to vote to then. On another note, those who think the agenda isn't real

[bluefete]

By your logic - a 7 year old who murders someone should be treated as an adult killer, because he has full knowledge and awareness of what he did. I fully agree.

^^ The agenda is that you as a parent will be kept in the dark if your under 18 CHILD decides to transition to the opposite sex.

I know you are playing devil's advocate but Is that so hard to understand?

What is difficult for me to understand:

How you have come to believe that some adolescents do not and cannot have issues based on their own feelings.
That all adolescents magically become aware and able to make personal choices only at the age of majority.
That with emancipated youth laws, teenage movie stars, teenage pop stars, teenage pilots, teenage soldiers, teenage workers, teenage marriage, teenage pregnancy, teenage dropouts, teenage criminals, teenage suicides, etc., you can conclude, with little to no information on the individual, that you know what is right and correct for them.
That you have decided that there is a one-size-fits-all approach for all children for all things related to sexual preference or identity.
That a minority of the population continues to aggressively fight to impose their will on others and expect any long term success, other than an opportunity to gripe and moan about it - and then gripe some more.

[bluefete]

Not only in the mid-west but also in New York (no surprise there):

'Parents' rights are under attack': Fury as New York schools are told to keep children's gender identities secret from families: New guidance also calls to end PE gender separation so 'LGBTQ pupils aren't marginalized'
New York State Education Department told teachers to keep students' gender identities secret from families if 'they deem it necessary' under new guidance
By RACHAEL BUNYAN
PUBLISHED: 13:12 BST, 19 June 2023

Parents have been left furious after schools in New York were told to keep their children's gender identities secret from their families under new guidance.

The New York State Education Department released 42 pages of new guidance last week which told schools to 'keep information' about a child's gender identity 'from families if they deem it necessary'.

The report also calls for schools to end the practice of separating boys and girls during physical education as it 'marginalizes' transgender and 'gender expansive' students and marks them as 'others'.


The New York State Education Department (pictured: Commissioner Betty A Rose) released 42 pages of new guidance last week which told schools to 'keep information' about a child's gender identity 'from families if they deem it necessary'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ilies.html

[adnj]

Not only in the mid-west but also in New York (no surprise there):

'Parents' rights are under attack': Fury as New York schools are told to keep children's gender identities secret from families: New guidance also calls to end PE gender separation so 'LGBTQ pupils aren't marginalized'
New York State Education Department told teachers to keep students' gender identities secret from families if 'they deem it necessary' under new guidance
By RACHAEL BUNYAN
PUBLISHED: 13:12 BST, 19 June 2023

Parents have been left furious after schools in New York were told to keep their children's gender identities secret from their families under new guidance.

The New York State Education Department released 42 pages of new guidance last week which told schools to 'keep information' about a child's gender identity 'from families if they deem it necessary'.

The report also calls for schools to end the practice of separating boys and girls during physical education as it 'marginalizes' transgender and 'gender expansive' students and marks them as 'others'.


The New York State Education Department (pictured: Commissioner Betty A Rose) released 42 pages of new guidance last week which told schools to 'keep information' about a child's gender identity 'from families if they deem it necessary'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ilies.html

I can't figure out who is being "quoted", but you could also read what NYC Public Schools has actually published. It doesn't seem as if there is much similarity between the reporting and the actual guidelines.

New guidance also calls to end PE gender separation so 'LGBTQ pupils aren't marginalized'

These guidelines set forth protocol and describe best practices for supporting transgender and gender expansive students. These guidelines apply to New York City Department of Education (DOE) school-based and central staff.

Schools must be proactive in creating a culture and practices that respect and value all students and foster understanding of gender identity and expression within the school community. Research shows that transgender and gender expansive students are at higher risk for being marginalized, victimized, or bullied. Creating an inclusive environment will mitigate the bias, misunderstanding, and/or a lack of knowledge about transgender and gender expansive student’s experiences.

Every student is unique and these guidelines do not anticipate every situation that may occur. Schools must assess the needs of each student on an individual basis to ensure that they support all students.

New York State Education Department told teachers to keep students' gender identities secret from families if 'they deem it necessary' under new guidance

Some youth, generally who are close to reaching puberty, or after starting puberty, may have medical treatments to reinforce their social transition. These treatments may include hormone suppressants, cross-gender hormone therapy, and, for a small number of young people, a range of gender-affirming surgeries. An individual’s decision about whether and how to undergo gender transition is personal and will depend on their unique circumstances.

Sometimes transgender and gender expansive students begin their transition at school without a parent’s knowledge. The term “parent,” whenever used in these guidelines, means the student’s parent(s) or guardian(s), or any person(s) in a parental or custodial relationship to the student. Other times, a parent will approach a school about their child’s transition. School staff must keep in mind that transgender and gender expansive youth may experience significant family challenges. Some transgender students have not talked to their parents about their gender identity and/or do not want their parents to know about their transgender status or gender expansive identity based on safety concerns or concerns about a lack of acceptance. These situations must be addressed on a case-by-case basis, accounting for the student’s age and maturity, and will require schools to balance the goal of supporting the student with the requirement that parents be kept informed about their children. The most important consideration in such situations is the health and safety of the student. If school staff is unsure of the most appropriate course of action, they should contact their Senior Field Counsel.

The student is in charge of their gender transition and the school’s role is to provide support. Where appropriate, the school administrator or another trusted adult in the school can meet with the student regarding their transition. The parent may be at this meeting, except where there are safety or other concerns as set forth above. At this meeting, the school should:

discuss the school’s role in supporting the student’s transition;
make resources available to the student and parent(s) to address questions or concerns;
prepare for a formal gender transition at school;
discuss, as appropriate, the timing of the transition, planning responses to questions from school staff and students, changing the student’s information in school records, and any other relevant matters; and
put in place measures for supporting the student and creating a sensitive, inclusive environment at school.
Schools should be vigilant about the potential for any bullying or harassment. DOE policy requires schools to work to prevent bullying and harassment and respond promptly to address allegations. For more information, see Chancellor’s Regulations A-830, A-831, and A-832 and A-830.

https://www.schools.nyc.gov/school-life ... e-students

[redmanjp]

cases-by-case basis=if parent is likely to disagree with transitioning they wont be told.

[bluefete]

"The student is in charge of their gender transition and the school’s role is to provide support. Where appropriate, the school administrator or another trusted adult in the school can meet with the student regarding their transition. The parent may be at this meeting, except where there are safety or other concerns as set forth above. "

WTAF????????????????????

A minor is in charge of changing their gender? Really? Is the minor paying for this? Lemme guess, the state pays for everything.

Cray, cray, cray.

[adnj]

"The student is in charge of their gender transition and the school’s role is to provide support. Where appropriate, the school administrator or another trusted adult in the school can meet with the student regarding their transition. The parent may be at this meeting, except where there are safety or other concerns as set forth above. "

WTAF????????????????????

A minor is in charge of changing their gender? Really? Is the minor paying for this? Lemme guess, the state pays for everything.

Cray, cray, cray.

The notion that many minors have the capacity and, indeed, the right to make important decisions about health care has been well established in federal and state policy. You may need to read up on what rights parents have, and do not have, regarding health care in the various states of the US.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Dx ... sp=sharing

[Dizzy28]

Democrat run states are to the extreme left of the RoW when it comes to Gender Care for Minors. Normally liberal Europe have gone on a different path wrt Gender Care for minors as it should be. Let the Blue run USA rot in grooming stupidity.

Increasingly, European nations are adopting a more cautious approach to gender-affirming care among minors. In March, for example, the Norwegian Healthcare Investigation Board announced it would revise its current clinical recommendations with respect to “gender-affirming care” for minors. The updated guidelines would restrict the use of puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones and transition-related surgery to clinical research settings. Norway joins other European nations, such as Finland, Sweden and the U.K., in introducing limits on the provision of gender-affirming care to minors.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohe ... dc9add7efb

[Dizzy28]

Men in this thread need to remember that certain parts of the USA are really just outliers in this Minor whole trans issue.

Europe's access is below and you can bet your bottom dollar Africa and Asia nowhere close to this either.

Darkest blue is 18 years
Medium Blue is 16 Years
Light blue is General Surgery Rules Apply

Notes
- In thirteen out of twenty-eight Member States, general surgery rules apply as regards the age at which children can request a sex reassignment surgery. In this context, the age requirement for access to medical treatment without the consent of the parents or of a public authority is 18 years in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Greece, France, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia, and 15 years in Slovenia.
- In the United Kingdom the age requirement ranges from 16 in Scotland to 17 in England and 18 in Wales. In Belgium, Estonia, Germany and Luxembourg the child’s maturity is assessed.
- In Austria, Czechia, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden the minimum age requirement to request sex reassignment surgery is explicitly set at the age of 18.
- Overall, twenty Member States (and Wales) only allow sex reassignment surgeries in individuals over the age of 18. Out of these, twelve Member States also set 18 as the age requirement for transgender hormone therapy, while in the case of sex reassignment surgery, eight countries (Czechia, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Latvia, Poland, Spain and Sweden) ask for a higher age than for transgender hormone therapy.
- In Ireland and Malta, the age requirement for sex reassignment surgery is 16 years.
- Croatia allows children to have sex reassignment surgery before the age of 18 if they have parental consent, without laying down any specific minimum age requirement.


http://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/201 ... nt-surgery

[adnj]

Men in this thread need to remember that certain parts of the USA are really just outliers in this Minor whole trans issue.

Europe's access is below and you can bet your bottom dollar Africa and Asia nowhere close to this either.

HRT.JPG
Darkest blue is 18 years
Medium Blue is 16 Years
Light blue is General Surgery Rules Apply

srs.JPG
Notes
- In thirteen out of twenty-eight Member States, general surgery rules apply as regards the age at which children can request a sex reassignment surgery. In this context, the age requirement for access to medical treatment without the consent of the parents or of a public authority is 18 years in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Greece, France, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia, and 15 years in Slovenia.
- In the United Kingdom the age requirement ranges from 16 in Scotland to 17 in England and 18 in Wales. In Belgium, Estonia, Germany and Luxembourg the child’s maturity is assessed.
- In Austria, Czechia, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden the minimum age requirement to request sex reassignment surgery is explicitly set at the age of 18.
- Overall, twenty Member States (and Wales) only allow sex reassignment surgeries in individuals over the age of 18. Out of these, twelve Member States also set 18 as the age requirement for transgender hormone therapy, while in the case of sex reassignment surgery, eight countries (Czechia, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Latvia, Poland, Spain and Sweden) ask for a higher age than for transgender hormone therapy.
- In Ireland and Malta, the age requirement for sex reassignment surgery is 16 years.
- Croatia allows children to have sex reassignment surgery before the age of 18 if they have parental consent, without laying down any specific minimum age requirement.


http://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/201 ... nt-surgery

There are no USA outliers. You can legally get HRT across the United States on your own only if you're 18+, or with a parent's consent if you're under 18.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/ ... 0than%2018.

[ruffneck_12]

I know a lot of yall use reddit here, because yall have the same talking points as them


Go through the detransistioner subreddits. You will get firsthand field reports of the turmoil taking the opposing hormones does to you, and how much pain and suffering men have to go through to deal with their gaping flesh wound just to pretend that they're a real woman, and the further dysphoria women feel when they lop off their mammary glands.

Ever wonder why trans suicide rates are so high? Can't be the bullying, because fat chicks get bullied infinitely more and they handle themselves better.

The details and pics kinda horrifying. Might link it here when I finish lunch, don't wanna lose my appetite.

[adnj]

I know a lot of yall use reddit here, because yall have the same talking points as them


Go through the detransistioner subreddits. You will get firsthand field reports of the turmoil taking the opposing hormones does to you, and how much pain and suffering men have to go through to deal with their gaping flesh wound just to pretend that they're a real woman, and the further dysphoria women feel when they lop off their mammary glands.

Ever wonder why trans suicide rates are so high? Can't be the bullying, because fat chicks get bullied infinitely more and they handle themselves better.

The details and pics kinda horrifying. Might link it here when I finish lunch, don't wanna lose my appetite.

Gentle Softneck,

Speak to some of your transgender friends. Gather their opinions. Come back and report them.

Then, and only then, will you fully understand that some people embrace the economic, psychologic, pharmacologic, and surgical costs.

And thank you for another try at making a post that makes sense. You're nearly there, Softneck.

[Dizzy28]

Men in this thread need to remember that certain parts of the USA are really just outliers in this Minor whole trans issue.

Europe's access is below and you can bet your bottom dollar Africa and Asia nowhere close to this either.

HRT.JPG
Darkest blue is 18 years
Medium Blue is 16 Years
Light blue is General Surgery Rules Apply

srs.JPG
Notes
- In thirteen out of twenty-eight Member States, general surgery rules apply as regards the age at which children can request a sex reassignment surgery. In this context, the age requirement for access to medical treatment without the consent of the parents or of a public authority is 18 years in Bulgaria, Cyprus, Greece, France, Hungary, Romania and Slovakia, and 15 years in Slovenia.
- In the United Kingdom the age requirement ranges from 16 in Scotland to 17 in England and 18 in Wales. In Belgium, Estonia, Germany and Luxembourg the child’s maturity is assessed.
- In Austria, Czechia, Croatia, Denmark, Finland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, the Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Spain and Sweden the minimum age requirement to request sex reassignment surgery is explicitly set at the age of 18.
- Overall, twenty Member States (and Wales) only allow sex reassignment surgeries in individuals over the age of 18. Out of these, twelve Member States also set 18 as the age requirement for transgender hormone therapy, while in the case of sex reassignment surgery, eight countries (Czechia, Denmark, Finland, the Netherlands, Latvia, Poland, Spain and Sweden) ask for a higher age than for transgender hormone therapy.
- In Ireland and Malta, the age requirement for sex reassignment surgery is 16 years.
- Croatia allows children to have sex reassignment surgery before the age of 18 if they have parental consent, without laying down any specific minimum age requirement.


http://fra.europa.eu/en/publication/201 ... nt-surgery

There are no USA outliers. You can legally get HRT across the United States on your own only if you're 18+, or with a parent's consent if you're under 18.

https://www.plannedparenthood.org/blog/ ... 0than%2018.

Except numerous medical and other publications have listed the US as the global outlier in minor gender care treatments with the most permissive regime.

And wrt to treatment for under 18 with parental consent Oregon and Washington allows minors to access puberty blockers without parental consent.
In Oregon 15+ can consent without parent's consent.
https://www.oregon.gov/obo/Documents/minor-rights.pdf
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/t ... ington-law

[ruffneck_12]

I know a lot of yall use reddit here, because yall have the same talking points as them


Go through the detransistioner subreddits. You will get firsthand field reports of the turmoil taking the opposing hormones does to you, and how much pain and suffering men have to go through to deal with their gaping flesh wound just to pretend that they're a real woman, and the further dysphoria women feel when they lop off their mammary glands.

Ever wonder why trans suicide rates are so high? Can't be the bullying, because fat chicks get bullied infinitely more and they handle themselves better.

The details and pics kinda horrifying. Might link it here when I finish lunch, don't wanna lose my appetite.

Gentle Softneck,

Speak to some of your transgender friends. Gather their opinions. Come back and report them.

Then, and only then, will you fully understand that some people embrace the economic, psychologic, pharmacologic, and surgical costs.

And thank you for another try at making a post that makes sense. You're nearly there, Softneck.

Hmmm, what is your opinion friend?

[Chimera]

Rally for your cause e-warriors. Rik is selling a set of lgbqt themed books. Mufti Arshad ali put them in his page this morning.

Organise with your troops and r u n to r I k and b u r n those books and barricade the doors.

Don't just glib glib glib on tuner.....fight for what you believe is right.

[bluefete]

Rally for your cause e-warriors. Rik is selling a set of lgbqt themed books. Mufti Arshad ali put them in his page this morning.

Organise with your troops and r u n to r I k and b u r n those books and barricade the doors.

Don't just glib glib glib on tuner.....fight for what you believe is right.

LOL. Doh look to chain up anybody here. Come back and tell us if the books are targetted towards children. .

[alfa]

I wonder if they decided to introduce religion into govt schools, having kids chant mantras for divali or made to fast for Ramadan and labeled as racist if parents refused if there would be such feverent support for religion. If books were pushed onto kids encouraging them to bring out the fundamentalist Christian hiding in the closet and not tell parents I suspect we will have a different kind of reaction. Rights work both ways unbeknownst to many it seems

[redmanjp]

If MOE decide to put them on the school curriculum i will fight- our children's future depends on it.

[Dizzy28]

Rally for your cause e-warriors. Rik is selling a set of lgbqt themed books. Mufti Arshad ali put them in his page this morning.

Organise with your troops and r u n to r I k and b u r n those books and barricade the doors.

Don't just glib glib glib on tuner.....fight for what you believe is right.

[Chimera]

Rally for your cause e-warriors. Rik is selling a set of lgbqt themed books. Mufti Arshad ali put them in his page this morning.

Organise with your troops and r u n to r I k and b u r n those books and barricade the doors.

Don't just glib glib glib on tuner.....fight for what you believe is right.

LOL. Doh look to chain up anybody here. Come back and tell us if the books are targetted towards children. .

why? doesnt bother me. i dont read this thread much anymore i does just pass tru to make a post that i know will help the closet homosexual tuners who trying to find a way to come out to the world

[ruffneck_12]

Rally for your cause e-warriors. Rik is selling a set of lgbqt themed books. Mufti Arshad ali put them in his page this morning.

Organise with your troops and r u n to r I k and b u r n those books and barricade the doors.

Don't just glib glib glib on tuner.....fight for what you believe is right.

LOL. Doh look to chain up anybody here. Come back and tell us if the books are targetted towards children. .

why? doesnt bother me. i dont read this thread much anymore i does just pass tru to make a post that i know will help the closet homosexual tuners who trying to find a way to come out to the world

It clearly does bother you though, otherwise you wouldn't comment.

cuz I don't bother with the Cricket or Football thread so I don't even open it

Anyhow

[mero]

Rally for your cause e-warriors. Rik is selling a set of lgbqt themed books. Mufti Arshad ali put them in his page this morning.

Organise with your troops and r u n to r I k and b u r n those books and barricade the doors.

Don't just glib glib glib on tuner.....fight for what you believe is right.

LOL. Doh look to chain up anybody here. Come back and tell us if the books are targetted towards children. .

why? doesnt bother me. i dont read this thread much anymore i does just pass tru to make a post that i know will help the closet homosexual tuners who trying to find a way to come out to the world

Lol, glad is not me alone noticing some a this..

[maj. tom]

I believe the common thread that binds the "won't somebody think about the children" group is lack of empathy and not understanding that other people exist and what they experience. Did you know that some people don't have an inner monologue? As in no inner voice that speaks to themselves and reflect on thoughts outside of oneself's own existence? They're incapable of it. When I first read of that I thought it was unbelievable. But apparently it's so with a good portion of the population.

But it gets more interesting when scientists studied chimps. They found that other primates “have no concept of information that’s untrue or different [from] what they know.” That means, one, that they can’t conceive of states of the world that are decoupled from their current reality. And so, they can't imagine other individuals thinking about the world in a different way.


It caught me by surprise when I had read that because up until then I always thought that all modern human Homo sapien brains were the same structure in evolutionary terms. That all humans were capable of thinking and feeling the same way my brain processes the world and view other people. Again, apparently not! So back to the first sentence above, you see how all the modern human bigotry and hatred in a certain part of the population over and over exposed with the power of the internet could start making sense this way. Now is it such a surprise that it's the same people in every other thread which seems to be a harbinger of useless controversy, from covid to the race and crime one to the US politics ones who always hailing the worst of humanity, etc. Plus what Phone Surgeon said.

[adnj]

I know a lot of yall use reddit here, because yall have the same talking points as them


Go through the detransistioner subreddits. You will get firsthand field reports of the turmoil taking the opposing hormones does to you, and how much pain and suffering men have to go through to deal with their gaping flesh wound just to pretend that they're a real woman, and the further dysphoria women feel when they lop off their mammary glands.

Ever wonder why trans suicide rates are so high? Can't be the bullying, because fat chicks get bullied infinitely more and they handle themselves better.

The details and pics kinda horrifying. Might link it here when I finish lunch, don't wanna lose my appetite.

Gentle Softneck,

Speak to some of your transgender friends. Gather their opinions. Come back and report them.

Then, and only then, will you fully understand that some people embrace the economic, psychologic, pharmacologic, and surgical costs.
And thank you for another try at making a post that makes sense. You're nearly there, Softneck.

Hmmm, what is your opinion friend?

Softneck,

Feel free to ask. I won't be able to give you any insights but I am always willing to help.

Way to stay positive, Softneck!

[alfa]

I believe the common thread that binds the "won't somebody think about the children" group is lack of empathy and not understanding that other people exist and what they experience. Did you know that some people don't have an inner monologue? As in no inner voice that speaks to themselves and reflect on thoughts outside of oneself's own existence? They're incapable of it. When I first read of that I thought it was unbelievable. But apparently it's so with a good portion of the population.

But it gets more interesting when scientists studied chimps. They found that other primates “have no concept of information that’s untrue or different [from] what they know.” That means, one, that they can’t conceive of states of the world that are decoupled from their current reality. And so, they can't imagine other individuals thinking about the world in a different way.


It caught me by surprise when I had read that because up until then I always thought that all modern human Homo sapien brains were the same structure in evolutionary terms. That all humans were capable of thinking and feeling the same way my brain processes the world and view other people. Again, apparently not! So back to the first sentence above, you see how all the modern human bigotry and hatred in a certain part of the population over and over exposed with the power of the internet could start making sense this way. Now is it such a surprise that it's the same people in every other thread which seems to be a harbinger of useless controversy, from covid to the race and crime one to the US politics ones who always hailing the worst of humanity, etc. Plus what Phone Surgeon said.

But this could only mean that it works both ways because the general attitude of the alphabet group is that it cannot fathom that some people don't share their view and they cannot accept or respect that they don't want their children exposed to it until they can discern right from wrong. This study explains a lot

[adnj]

I believe the common thread that binds the "won't somebody think about the children" group is lack of empathy and not understanding that other people exist and what they experience. Did you know that some people don't have an inner monologue? As in no inner voice that speaks to themselves and reflect on thoughts outside of oneself's own existence? They're incapable of it. When I first read of that I thought it was unbelievable. But apparently it's so with a good portion of the population.

But it gets more interesting when scientists studied chimps. They found that other primates “have no concept of information that’s untrue or different [from] what they know.” That means, one, that they can’t conceive of states of the world that are decoupled from their current reality. And so, they can't imagine other individuals thinking about the world in a different way.


It caught me by surprise when I had read that because up until then I always thought that all modern human Homo sapien brains were the same structure in evolutionary terms. That all humans were capable of thinking and feeling the same way my brain processes the world and view other people. Again, apparently not! So back to the first sentence above, you see how all the modern human bigotry and hatred in a certain part of the population over and over exposed with the power of the internet could start making sense this way. Now is it such a surprise that it's the same people in every other thread which seems to be a harbinger of useless controversy, from covid to the race and crime one to the US politics ones who always hailing the worst of humanity, etc. Plus what Phone Surgeon said.

But this could only mean that it works both ways because the general attitude of the alphabet group is that it cannot fathom that some people don't share their view and they cannot accept or respect that they don't want their children exposed to it until they can discern right from wrong. This study explains a lot

I am still trying to understand how a drag queen will be able to read to primary school children without some sort of parental involvement. Are these children just loitering in front of the bookstore? Or the mall? Are they leaving school and heading to the reading by themselves? Are the drag queens picking up unaccompanied minors at the playground and giving them drugged juice boxes?

You seem to have your finger on the pulse of the "agenda" planning. How does it happen?