Interchange at Curepe - Churchill Roosevelt Highway/Southern Main Road flyover

[adnj]

i think i saw a sign saying 4.5m clearance on that bridge.

unless i imagined that.

and the bridge looks definitely lower than the walkovers. why make it lower? that make no sense.

It does say 4.5m. Pedestrian walkways are typically higher than road bridges as a safety measure.

[rspann]

I still can't understand where a truck will go if he reach the barrier and is too tall to go under.

[adnj]

I still can't understand where a truck will go if he reach the barrier and is too tall to go under.

The driver is tasked with knowing of low clearances along a route. If the load is oversized, an escort vehicle may have a verticle mast to check clearance far ahead of the oversized load.

If the semi gets to a low verticle clearance overhead, the driver just reverses to the previous exit - typically with police assistance.

[Zetski]

I want to see when carnival come around where d big truck gonna pass

[rspann]

I still can't understand where a truck will go if he reach the barrier and is too tall to go under.

The driver is tasked with knowing of low clearances along a route. If the load is oversized, an escort vehicle may have a verticle mast to check clearance far ahead of the oversized load.

If the semi gets to a low verticle clearance overhead, the driver just reverses to the previous exit - typically with police assistance.

It was recently put up, so a driver would hardly likely have known. It was a regular truck , so no escort vehicle. Reversing a truck and trailer back to Valsayn in traffic is very challenging if not nearly impossible. If it was erected just a few more feet to the east , there would have been an opportunity to exit . That is probably why he tried to pass through in the first place.

[adnj]

It was recently put up, so a driver would hardly likely have known. It was a regular truck , so no escort vehicle. Reversing a truck and trailer back to Valsayn in traffic is very challenging if not nearly impossible. If it was erected just a few more feet to the east , there would have been an opportunity to exit . That is probably why he tried to pass through in the first place.

I would have to assume that the overpass height was likely communicated to any truckers that were interested.

When you reach a low clearance situation, you're taught to stop and pull over to the side and call it in - police will show up and assist.

The overpass was marked 4.5 m. A standard container on a trailer is 4.15 m high. A high-cube trailer on a low profile trailer is the exact same height. But a high-cube container on a standard trailer is 4.42 m high.

Apparently, according to the Transportation media release, police who were on the scene when the truss was struck, directed the driver to stop, but instead the driver proceeded to move forward.

If you look at the pics, you'll see a high-cube container on a standard trailer. The driver perhaps knew better but gave it a shot anyway.

He lost.

[rspann]

4.42 is less than 4.5 so why couldn't it fit? Sag or the columns were on the soft shoulder which is a few inches lower than the road. Whichever it is , my question remains , what provision was made for a detour for vehicles over the required height. I passed there and there is none. The barrier was placed at the wrong point.

[pete]

Where they measure the 4.42m tho? From the video it seems the front of the trailer was higher than the back. If he had dropped the truck down so it was level it may have passed under.

[redmanjp]

I want to see when carnival come around where d big truck gonna pass

same routes as Sunday last

[adnj]

FWIW, Bhagwansingh Piarco sold out of 5m tape measures the day after this happened.

[rspann]

It's fixed, and sign showing the detour installed too. like them chinee following on tuner. I also noticed a piece of 4" I-beam on top, that was always there or they corrected the height after the accident?

[rspann]

The barrier join up with pieces of corrugated (high tensile) steel. Pass under at your own risk.

[maj. tom]

So was it that they had welded the barrier to the wrong measurement in the first place and wrongly saying it was 4.5m?

[rspann]

So was it that they had welded the barrier to the wrong measurement in the first place and wrongly saying it was 4.5m?

I feel it was a few inches short ,probably when they erected the two columns they didn't take into consideration that the shoulder was lower than the road and lost a couple of inches,that is why the truck rub the barrier, because it was just barely rubbing in the vid. Why else would a regular truck be unable to pass?

[rspann]

Where they measure the 4.42m tho? From the video it seems the front of the trailer was higher than the back. If he had dropped the truck down so it was level it may have passed under.

All they had to do was drop the pressure in the tyres.

[pete]

I believe most if not all the container trucks have air ride to raise/lower the back of the truck where the trailer connects.

[screwbash]

anyone remember years ago when paramount transported the new silos for carib on the bus route and all them lines on the ttec poles had to come down. yuh see flow, tstt and ttec has to disconnect and allow the trailer to pass and then pull back the wire. with that over pass by curepe the MOWT go hadda open the bus route for anything higher than 4.5m

[Dizzy28]

anyone remember years ago when paramount transported the new silos for carib on the bus route and all them lines on the ttec poles had to come down. yuh see flow, tstt and ttec has to disconnect and allow the trailer to pass and then pull back the wire. with that over pass by curepe the MOWT go hadda open the bus route for anything higher than 4.5m

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[pugboy]

I see the modified the original design which was just a truss going across
They now have a lower section of horizontal thinner pipe welded to the truss
They must be hope if somebody hit it again that the pipe alone will break off and not bring down the entire truss beam.

[16 cycles]

Everytime a tida bad drive me...i review the video...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Traffic disruption on Wednesday night at Curepe overpass site

Casting of the bridge deck of the Curepe overpass is set to take place on Wednesday night into Thursday morning.

As a result, from 9pm on February 5th to 3am on February 6th, the Ministry of Works and Transport says there will be only one lane available on both the east and west bound lanes, in that vicinity.

Motorists will have the choice of using the Priority Bus Route as it will be open to all vehicles during that period, between Mt. Hope and Macoya.

https://www.103fm.tt/news/traffic-disru ... pass-site/

[pugboy]

Cnc3 show how badly the white lines painted and caused accident this morning.
Rohani say they gonna paint it over properly ASAP,
I wonder if he does ever drive there and see them badly painted lines.

[eKeith]

Cnc3 show how badly the white lines painted and caused accident this morning.
Rohani say they gonna paint it over properly ASAP,
I wonder if he does ever drive there and see them badly painted lines.

He lives in north Valsayn. I am sure he is aware...

[eliteauto]

Had that experience just now, came out of Valsyn south heading west and couldn't tell if I was on a lane or the shoulder, had to count the amount of cars on my right to make a determination

[sMASH]

PNM too incompetent to get a line painted correctly, they hadda promise to do it over right, the next time???

*tings to make u cuss*

[pete]

Had that experience just now, came out of Valsyn south heading west and couldn't tell if I was on a lane or the shoulder, had to count the amount of cars on my right to make a determination

The problem is more at the intersection WB. Quite a few times I've been in the right lane and as a car in the middle lane goes through the intersection they take up space in "a lane" that's really half way in between the right and middle lane.

Further down it's a case of a 3 lane wide shoulder and the 3 lanes. This is especially annoying when they close the right lane and don't divert anyone onto the shoulder which has tons of space and causes tons of traffic.

[Dizzy28]

Cnc3 show how badly the white lines painted and caused accident this morning.
Rohani say they gonna paint it over properly ASAP,
I wonder if he does ever drive there and see them badly painted lines.

Sunday night I passed there and just before reaching under the bridge east bound realized I was in the middle lane based on the lines however I was really driving on the left lane as I customary am. Somewhere before the lines start to merge from one lane to the next.

Was wondering if was just me....glad to know my average still normal.

[hydroep]

Cnc3 show how badly the white lines painted and caused accident this morning.
Rohani say they gonna paint it over properly ASAP,
I wonder if he does ever drive there and see them badly painted lines.

He going to paint it over? He should be held responsible for the accident...

[toyolink]

Traffic control and safety infrastructure seems to be based on some adhoc approach to management and certainly doesn't appear to be embedded in the overall project plan.
This however seems to be an aspect of the 'new normal' and survival of the fittest determine our fate.

[SR]

Fro. Next week the traffic plan changes again.... ...