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Pundit: T&T, India cannot celebrate Divali on same date
THE dates for Hindu festivals calculated for India cannot be used in Trinidad and Tobago, according to SWAHA spiritual head Paramacharya Pundit Hardeo Persad.
Persad made the statement in a statement aimed at “shedding light” on the difference in date of Divali between T&T and India, the country with the largest Hindu population in the world.
India will be celebrating Divali on Sunday November 3, while Trinidad and Tobago will be celebrating the festival of light on Saturday November 2.
This disparity in the date of celebration has caused some concern among members of the Hindu community in this country, especially in light of the fact that the St Joseph by-election will be held on Monday November 4.
Persad said SWAHA believes in “enlightened ritualism” and strives to educate the public on the rationale behind Hindu festivals and practices.
Persad provided three reasons to bolster his point for Divali being celebrated in this country on November 2.
“The first and foremost principle is that the dates for Hindu festivals calculated for India cannot be used in Trinidad and Tobago, or for any other city in the world.”
Persad said this inability to use the date of Hindu festivals as standard across the world was as a result of the earth’s shape and the resultant differing time zones.
“This means that a date for a religious celebration must be calculated and determined for each major location around the world. India is almost nine and a half hours ahead of Trinidad and Tobago,” he said. The second reason is that Hindus use a “lunisolar calendar”, a calendar based on the moon’s celestial motion around the earth, to determine the date of festivals.
The third reason provided by Persad is that there are various systems of Hindu astrological calculation that are currently being utilised.
“Some are based on ancient general formulas and rules-of-thumb that give approximate planetary positions. Other systems adopt a scientific data-driven approach and use modern methods of observation and calculation,” Persad said.
SWAHA utilises calculations based on NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s Ephemeris (Positions of planets at a given time).
“Discrepancies therefore arise in calculations depending on which system is used, and this impacts the resulting selected dates for religious observances,” Persad said.
“Divali is observed on the night of the new moon lunar day (amavas) in the dark half (krishna paksha) of the month of Kartik,” he said.
In Trinidad and Tobago, the new moon lunar day starts at approximately 10.43.05 a.m. on November 2 and ends approximately at 08.49.56 a.m. on November 3,” he said.
“Therefore, if Divali were held on November 3, activities essential to the observance of Divali such as the performance of puja and the lighting of deyas in the night would be after and not during the new moon lunar day period,” Persad said.
“It is therefore the position of SWAHA that Divali should be observed on the evening of Saturday November 2, 2013,” he said.
TriniAutoMart wrote:2nd November 2013 for T&TPundit: T&T, India cannot celebrate Divali on same date
THE dates for Hindu festivals calculated for India cannot be used in Trinidad and Tobago, according to SWAHA spiritual head Paramacharya Pundit Hardeo Persad.
Persad made the statement in a statement aimed at “shedding light” on the difference in date of Divali between T&T and India, the country with the largest Hindu population in the world.
India will be celebrating Divali on Sunday November 3, while Trinidad and Tobago will be celebrating the festival of light on Saturday November 2.
This disparity in the date of celebration has caused some concern among members of the Hindu community in this country, especially in light of the fact that the St Joseph by-election will be held on Monday November 4.
Persad said SWAHA believes in “enlightened ritualism” and strives to educate the public on the rationale behind Hindu festivals and practices.
Persad provided three reasons to bolster his point for Divali being celebrated in this country on November 2.
“The first and foremost principle is that the dates for Hindu festivals calculated for India cannot be used in Trinidad and Tobago, or for any other city in the world.”
Persad said this inability to use the date of Hindu festivals as standard across the world was as a result of the earth’s shape and the resultant differing time zones.
“This means that a date for a religious celebration must be calculated and determined for each major location around the world. India is almost nine and a half hours ahead of Trinidad and Tobago,” he said. The second reason is that Hindus use a “lunisolar calendar”, a calendar based on the moon’s celestial motion around the earth, to determine the date of festivals.
The third reason provided by Persad is that there are various systems of Hindu astrological calculation that are currently being utilised.
“Some are based on ancient general formulas and rules-of-thumb that give approximate planetary positions. Other systems adopt a scientific data-driven approach and use modern methods of observation and calculation,” Persad said.
SWAHA utilises calculations based on NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s Ephemeris (Positions of planets at a given time).
“Discrepancies therefore arise in calculations depending on which system is used, and this impacts the resulting selected dates for religious observances,” Persad said.
“Divali is observed on the night of the new moon lunar day (amavas) in the dark half (krishna paksha) of the month of Kartik,” he said.
In Trinidad and Tobago, the new moon lunar day starts at approximately 10.43.05 a.m. on November 2 and ends approximately at 08.49.56 a.m. on November 3,” he said.
“Therefore, if Divali were held on November 3, activities essential to the observance of Divali such as the performance of puja and the lighting of deyas in the night would be after and not during the new moon lunar day period,” Persad said.
“It is therefore the position of SWAHA that Divali should be observed on the evening of Saturday November 2, 2013,” he said.
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Fernandez:) wrote:oh jesus mudda frockin christ man. what ever day is the dam divali let it be. Thats just one day in life. imagine 11 pages over what day is divali. if allyuh want channa and alloo on the 3rd stay the frock home an make it yuh mudda frocking self.
ILP just loss the muddda frockin election and we have 3 years to wait till the next one. I woulda understand 11 pages talking about that but 11 pages talking about divali on the 2nd or 3rd doh make sense. an ah sure 90% of the posters here on this topic not even hindu. They just to go by some indian an eat they food an run. Alluyh non hindus ah hope when is christmas or whatever you celebrate you invite the same hindus by your house too.
Fernandez:) wrote:oh jesus mudda frockin christ man. what ever day is the dam divali let it be. Thats just one day in life. imagine 11 pages over what day is divali. if allyuh want channa and alloo on the 3rd stay the frock home an make it yuh mudda frocking self.
ILP just loss the muddda frockin election and we have 3 years to wait till the next one. I woulda understand 11 pages talking about that but 11 pages talking about divali on the 2nd or 3rd doh make sense. an ah sure 90% of the posters here on this topic not even hindu. They just to go by some indian an eat they food an run. Alluyh non hindus ah hope when is christmas or whatever you celebrate you invite the same hindus by your house too.
orgoarrr how alluh does let this elections things get to allyuh so, doh worry, win lose or draw, Warner pocket brimming yunno, Hati relief money eh touch yet Gladiator wrote:TriniAutoMart wrote:2nd November 2013 for T&TPundit: T&T, India cannot celebrate Divali on same date
THE dates for Hindu festivals calculated for India cannot be used in Trinidad and Tobago, according to SWAHA spiritual head Paramacharya Pundit Hardeo Persad.
Persad made the statement in a statement aimed at “shedding light” on the difference in date of Divali between T&T and India, the country with the largest Hindu population in the world.
India will be celebrating Divali on Sunday November 3, while Trinidad and Tobago will be celebrating the festival of light on Saturday November 2.
This disparity in the date of celebration has caused some concern among members of the Hindu community in this country, especially in light of the fact that the St Joseph by-election will be held on Monday November 4.
Persad said SWAHA believes in “enlightened ritualism” and strives to educate the public on the rationale behind Hindu festivals and practices.
Persad provided three reasons to bolster his point for Divali being celebrated in this country on November 2.
“The first and foremost principle is that the dates for Hindu festivals calculated for India cannot be used in Trinidad and Tobago, or for any other city in the world.”
Persad said this inability to use the date of Hindu festivals as standard across the world was as a result of the earth’s shape and the resultant differing time zones.
“This means that a date for a religious celebration must be calculated and determined for each major location around the world. India is almost nine and a half hours ahead of Trinidad and Tobago,” he said. The second reason is that Hindus use a “lunisolar calendar”, a calendar based on the moon’s celestial motion around the earth, to determine the date of festivals.
The third reason provided by Persad is that there are various systems of Hindu astrological calculation that are currently being utilised.
“Some are based on ancient general formulas and rules-of-thumb that give approximate planetary positions. Other systems adopt a scientific data-driven approach and use modern methods of observation and calculation,” Persad said.
SWAHA utilises calculations based on NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory’s Ephemeris (Positions of planets at a given time).
“Discrepancies therefore arise in calculations depending on which system is used, and this impacts the resulting selected dates for religious observances,” Persad said.
“Divali is observed on the night of the new moon lunar day (amavas) in the dark half (krishna paksha) of the month of Kartik,” he said.
In Trinidad and Tobago, the new moon lunar day starts at approximately 10.43.05 a.m. on November 2 and ends approximately at 08.49.56 a.m. on November 3,” he said.
“Therefore, if Divali were held on November 3, activities essential to the observance of Divali such as the performance of puja and the lighting of deyas in the night would be after and not during the new moon lunar day period,” Persad said.
“It is therefore the position of SWAHA that Divali should be observed on the evening of Saturday November 2, 2013,” he said.
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I ain't no pundit or scientist, but if India is 9.5 hours ahead of T&T shouldn't them see Diwali before we. But we seeing it on the 2nd and them seeing it on the 3rd...
JoKeR1980 wrote:buh wuh de President say?
Fernandez:) wrote:oh jesus mudda frockin christ man. what ever day is the dam divali let it be. Thats just one day in life. imagine 11 pages over what day is divali. if allyuh want channa and alloo on the 3rd stay the frock home an make it yuh mudda frocking self.
ILP just loss the muddda frockin election and we have 3 years to wait till the next one. I woulda understand 11 pages talking about that but 11 pages talking about divali on the 2nd or 3rd doh make sense. an ah sure 90% of the posters here on this topic not even hindu. They just to go by some indian an eat they food an run. Alluyh non hindus ah hope when is christmas or whatever you celebrate you invite the same hindus by your house too.
AllTrac wrote:Fernandez:) wrote:oh jesus mudda frockin christ man. what ever day is the dam divali let it be. Thats just one day in life. imagine 11 pages over what day is divali. if allyuh want channa and alloo on the 3rd stay the frock home an make it yuh mudda frocking self.
ILP just loss the muddda frockin election and we have 3 years to wait till the next one. I woulda understand 11 pages talking about that but 11 pages talking about divali on the 2nd or 3rd doh make sense. an ah sure 90% of the posters here on this topic not even hindu. They just to go by some indian an eat they food an run. Alluyh non hindus ah hope when is christmas or whatever you celebrate you invite the same hindus by your house too.
KIA Motors wrote:Thanks my fellow trinituners... FYI it was ordered from Ena's Event Management. Contact: 654-0178/336-6627 enasevent@gmail.com
Regards,
Your Sales Representative,
Feroze Bissessar
Sales Executive
Southern Sales and Services Co. Ltd
Cell: 682-5199
Email: f.bissessar@southernsalestt.com
KIA Motors wrote:What do you guys think about my divali gifts to my customers?
Regards,
Feroze Bissessar
Sales Executive
Southern Sales and Services Co. Ltd
Cell: 682-5199
Email: f.bissessar@southernsalestt.com
S_2NR wrote:KIA Motors wrote:Thanks my fellow trinituners... FYI it was ordered from Ena's Event Management. Contact: 654-0178/336-6627 enasevent@gmail.com
Regards,
Your Sales Representative,
Feroze Bissessar
Sales Executive
Southern Sales and Services Co. Ltd
Cell: 682-5199
Email: f.bissessar@southernsalestt.com
De phoq is this
JoKeR1980 wrote:Feroze
ermm...
a friend ask me to ask you if we HAVE to buy something to get the free gifts?
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