BREAKING NEWS: TTASA gets Camden for racing

[professor]

Since TTASA is an organisation compromising paying members and not a living single monolith, it should be possible to effect change in the organisation and change out the" dial up, commodore 64, points and carbs men" for some newer broadband, intel inside, fuel injected folk.
The way to do this is simple: right now TTASA is probably on a drive to get members - especially with drivers needing to be members or associates of TTASA in order to race, with the membership numbers rising, it will result in some dilution of the older tarnished managerial layer, paving the way for a better run, more efficient NSO when the next management change is scheduled.

If you understand TTASA's constitution you will realise that it is not an easy task to change it [i]nor become a member who can effect such change.[/i]The old body needs to either drastically change or disolve and a new NSO formed which will give every form of motorsports a fair and balanced membership.

I am probably the last person who was denied membership in TTASA (Twice, sometime in the 70's). I don't think this a valid point, unless you vex with every member of TTASA.

[professor]

^^
please do elaborate on that.

A 'behind fence bad dog' is a dog who, out in the street, walks with his tail between his legs, almost crawling, until he get behind his fence (Forum name?), then he is the baddest thing out since pitbull.
Anyone recognise themselves?

Clive Sugden; 'Professor'. (Just in case you thought I am a 'Behind fence bad dog).

[AutoSport]

I am probably the last person who was denied membership in TTASA (Twice, sometime in the 70's). I don't think this a valid point, unless you vex with every member of TTASA.

Sorry there Professor, but my "refusal of entry" was just a few years ago, and this with 11 others whose forms were not correct,even though they were given to Gerard Carrington by a TTASA member.


And referring to this piece of vomit that Link and company having others swallow:
"The current TTASA management and Autosport have a longstanding rift, the problem here for Rawle being that if TTASA has control of the facility, Rawle will be frozen out of throwing any events there, and as he is a promoter, this impacts his possible revenue. I just wonder since this is a distinct possibility, if Rawle is pursuing a scorched earth policy- " If I can't drink from the well, then no one can" - again mediation is the key here."

When TTASA management moved into the the South Track that we refurbished at great expense, and we were then told that WE have to pay $5,000.00 to use it, we simply refused and walked away - where was the impact on possible revenue?

And then coming to the end of the availability of said South track, the final International Event....
Who was called to assist in running the competition?
And who did come and run the competition?
And who did pull a piece of rope across the entrance when I did come to assist TTASA?

When people start to open their eyes and look for credibility, then you will understand why the majority are against this current administration, and it is merely for their consistent shameful decision-making process. But do not take my word, go and learn for yourselves.

[link]

I am probably the last person who was denied membership in TTASA (Twice, sometime in the 70's). I don't think this a valid point, unless you vex with every member of TTASA.

Sorry there Professor, but my "refusal of entry" was just a few years ago, and this with 11 others whose forms were not correct,even though they were given to Gerard Carrington by a TTASA member.


And referring to this piece of vomit that Link and company having others swallow:
"The current TTASA management and Autosport have a longstanding rift, the problem here for Rawle being that if TTASA has control of the facility, Rawle will be frozen out of throwing any events there, and as he is a promoter, this impacts his possible revenue. I just wonder since this is a distinct possibility, if Rawle is pursuing a scorched earth policy- " If I can't drink from the well, then no one can" - again mediation is the key here."

When TTASA management moved into the the South Track that we refurbished at great expense, and we were then told that WE have to pay $5,000.00 to use it, we simply refused and walked away - where was the impact on possible revenue?

And then coming to the end of the availability of said South track, the final International Event....
Who was called to assist in running the competition?
And who did come and run the competition?
And who did pull a piece of rope across the entrance when I did come to assist TTASA?

When people start to open their eyes and look for credibility, then you will understand why the majority are against this current administration, and it is merely for their consistent shameful decision-making process. But do not take my word, go and learn for yourselves.

[SUPAstarr]

11 pages of talk, an at the end of the day TTASA will still be there cuz peeps can get past the stage of bicker on the internet. What a waste of time and effort. Ppl who really want change, get up an go get it. As much as i dislike TTASA management im equally gettin tired of ppl pointin fingers and jus complaining an regurgitating the same truth that we keep hearin over and over.

[sparky]

If you the Auto sport holy crew,after all these years have not develop a plan to wrestle power from TTASA,you should count your self a failure,stop complaining and let other people move forward with motor sport in this country.It is not that I do not recognize your hard work towards motor sport, it is just that people of your stature in the industry should behave like ELDER STATESMEN in the interest of our craft moving forward.

[jungletoad]

well am sure ttasa has elections for the board....if racers were smart and unified...we nominate persons who will fairly represent us for the elctions and we vote them in.....just after we get registered with them of course.......now i understand that there will be some known persons who will be denied due to old grudges and who tief who wife*idc about that*....the solution to this is simple...push and encourage younger racers and auto sports persons to join ttasa...nominate unbiased persons for elctions and vote for them.....am sure the younger or new memebership collectively will be sufficient to out weigh the supporters of the old ttasa board...and there u have it......

realistically that is what should hapen....but trinis again...talk and complain.....wen is time to do sumtin about it the masses disappear and one or two ppl will be left standing to face the sheit storm....

as for camden........what is being set in place for the proper security of the spectators vehicles? i will not be supporting anything in camden if adequate competent security isn t made available.....

[SUPAstarr]

Actually its easier to get into a religious girls panties than get on the board of TTASA, 2 current members must nominate you or sumthin so.

[pete]

I thought it was 2 TRUSTEES?

[jungletoad]

who are the board members?where is ttasa located? where can i get a copy of the association regulations?its quite easy to get those ppl out of their positions......it sounds alot like the governing body and association governing my profession....

if the we want them to go they have to.... 1 man cannot do it....and having so much division will not do it as well..

we all need to come together....and show our numbers at their office....

ppl plannin carshow and all sorts of events well plan a grand meet sumwhere for all autosport lovers and talk about it...i said talk....not argue and cusss........so while ppl complainin and argueing all i seein is hot air being expeled with no aim or focus in the protests.....till we do come together get our sh it in order ..have a strategy to go foward ttasa and everyone else will be laffing at us and say let the idiots squable

[professor]

Between SUPAstarr and Pete's post, we can see how a lot of people making uninformed comments on TTASA and it structure.
I think jungletoad is showing how to do it, which one do you prefer, Democracy or 1990 style ?

[sparky]

The issue is sample,every one wants to control drag racing because of its revenue potential and now that a venue seems to be possible, some people eyes seeing dollar sign again.The majority of drag racers in TaT formed TTUNDRA to see about our interest.We are not about sabotaging any other organization but to work with them to serve our best interest.Racers are ask to register with TTUNDRA.Presently we are the only organization representing drag racers in this country.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ sparky, is TTUNDRA now an official affiliate of TTASA?

[Garrett Inside]

^what he said

[sparky]

That decision will be made collectively at our next general meeting

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ ok thanks

[FugiTECH]

sparky whats the phone number of any ttundra official please

[SUPAstarr]

Between SUPAstarr and Pete's post, we can see how a lot of people making uninformed comments on TTASA and it structure.
I think jungletoad is showing how to do it, which one do you prefer, Democracy or 1990 style ?

Agreed, i can only regurgitate what i have heard, that y at the end on my last comment i open myself up for correction, care to correct us so we no longer ignorant of the truth

[professor]

Go to ttasaonline.com

[SUPAstarr]

ok i see the membership form requires a proposed by an seconded by?

[sparky]

The face book web page of TTUNDRA has an official phone number.

[wraith]

Since TTASA is an organisation compromising paying members and not a living single monolith, it should be possible to effect change in the organisation and change out the" dial up, commodore 64, points and carbs men" for some newer broadband, intel inside, fuel injected folk.
The way to do this is simple: right now TTASA is probably on a drive to get members - especially with drivers needing to be members or associates of TTASA in order to race, with the membership numbers rising, it will result in some dilution of the older tarnished managerial layer, paving the way for a better run, more efficient NSO when the next management change is scheduled.

If you understand TTASA's constitution you will realise that it is not an easy task to change it [i]nor become a member who can effect such change.[/i]The old body needs to either drastically change or disolve and a new NSO formed which will give every form of motorsports a fair and balanced membership.

I am probably the last person who was denied membership in TTASA (Twice, sometime in the 70's). I don't think this a valid point, unless you vex with every member of TTASA.

Just goes to show that even you can be denied by them, also people need to realise that to become a member of TTASA you need to do much more than just go to a meeting with membership fee and get it.

It is hard to become a member if nobody knows you and it is even harder to become a member who is able to vote on changes in their constituation.

I really do not think people have the patience to go to meetings for a few years before they can be allowed to have a fair say in what goes on.

[wraith]

If you the Auto sport holy crew,after all these years have not develop a plan to wrestle power from TTASA,you should count your self a failure,stop complaining and let other people move forward with motor sport in this country.It is not that I do not recognize your hard work towards motor sport, it is just that people of your stature in the industry should behave like ELDER STATESMEN in the interest of our craft moving forward.

Sparky you should know better, the only way TTASA will be removed is if the Govt. does it, there is no other way a single person or group can remove them.

Maybe if you become an afiliate with them you will learn first hand how they operate.

[wraith]

If you the Auto sport holy crew,after all these years have not develop a plan to wrestle power from TTASA,you should count your self a failure,stop complaining and let other people move forward with motor sport in this country.It is not that I do not recognize your hard work towards motor sport, it is just that people of your stature in the industry should behave like ELDER STATESMEN in the interest of our craft moving forward.

Sparky you should know better, the only way TTASA will be removed is if the Govt. does it, there is no other way a single person or group can remove them.

Maybe if you become an afiliate with them you will learn first hand how they operate.

[AutoSport]

And it is even more unfortunate how some are looking at critical comments as a fight down, sour grapes, or whatever else makes them comfortable in trying to justify their own hunger just to grab at promises.

Again I say right on! Let's see how far higher they will raise the bar in comparison to the Guyana efforts.

[QG]

This is great news!

[link]

And it is even more unfortunate how some are looking at critical comments as a fight down, sour grapes, or whatever else makes them comfortable in trying to justify their own hunger just to grab at promises.

Again I say right on! Let's see how far higher they will raise the bar in comparison to the Guyana efforts.

[link]

Since TTASA is an organisation compromising paying members and not a living single monolith, it should be possible to effect change in the organisation and change out the" dial up, commodore 64, points and carbs men" for some newer broadband, intel inside, fuel injected folk.
The way to do this is simple: right now TTASA is probably on a drive to get members - especially with drivers needing to be members or associates of TTASA in order to race, with the membership numbers rising, it will result in some dilution of the older tarnished managerial layer, paving the way for a better run, more efficient NSO when the next management change is scheduled.

If you understand TTASA's constitution you will realise that it is not an easy task to change it [i]nor become a member who can effect such change.[/i]The old body needs to either drastically change or disolve and a new NSO formed which will give every form of motorsports a fair and balanced membership.

I am probably the last person who was denied membership in TTASA (Twice, sometime in the 70's). I don't think this a valid point, unless you vex with every member of TTASA.

Just goes to show that even you can be denied by them, also people need to realise that to become a member of TTASA you need to do much more than just go to a meeting with membership fee and get it.

It is hard to become a member if nobody knows you and it is even harder to become a member who is able to vote on changes in their constituation.

I really do not think people have the patience to go to meetings for a few years before they can be allowed to have a fair say in what goes on.

members need to attend at least 75% of regular monthly meetings to qualify for benefits of being a member. Dedication/committment....not just patience...is required to be a TTASA member.........prople who desire a no-rules/do-wha'-yuh-want' environment need not apply.
Please put things in proper perspective.
rgds

[Garrett Inside]

Since TTASA is an organisation compromising paying members and not a living single monolith, it should be possible to effect change in the organisation and change out the" dial up, commodore 64, points and carbs men" for some newer broadband, intel inside, fuel injected folk.
The way to do this is simple: right now TTASA is probably on a drive to get members - especially with drivers needing to be members or associates of TTASA in order to race, with the membership numbers rising, it will result in some dilution of the older tarnished managerial layer, paving the way for a better run, more efficient NSO when the next management change is scheduled.

If you understand TTASA's constitution you will realise that it is not an easy task to change it [i]nor become a member who can effect such change.[/i]The old body needs to either drastically change or disolve and a new NSO formed which will give every form of motorsports a fair and balanced membership.

I am probably the last person who was denied membership in TTASA (Twice, sometime in the 70's). I don't think this a valid point, unless you vex with every member of TTASA.

Just goes to show that even you can be denied by them, also people need to realise that to become a member of TTASA you need to do much more than just go to a meeting with membership fee and get it.

It is hard to become a member if nobody knows you and it is even harder to become a member who is able to vote on changes in their constituation.

I really do not think people have the patience to go to meetings for a few years before they can be allowed to have a fair say in what goes on.

members need to attend at least 75% of regular monthly meetings to qualify for benefits of being a member. Dedication/committment....not just patience...is required to be a TTASA member.........prople who desire a no-rules/do-wha'-yuh-want' environment need not apply.
Please put things in proper perspective.
rgds

so if i gain membership, and for one year i show up to 50% of the meetings, i will be disqualified from becoming a member the next year?
Also, what are these benefits that you speak of? please elaborate.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Link, for the edification of those here, can you give us the details as per the TTASA Constitution regarding the membership application requirements, the requirements of a member to serve on the executive and the requirements for a member to be voted for President?

As far as I know for a new member to be accepted into TTASA, the new member must be proposed by a current member and then seconded by another current member, both of whom can vouch for the new member. There should be no protests against the new membership by any current member.

This is what I understand when reviewing the TTASA membership form here
http://www.ttasa.com/Files/New%20folder/mem.pdf