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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby bluefete » January 9th, 2023, 5:23 pm

wagonrunner wrote:
bluefete wrote:There is a new form instead of the one on pgs.235-236.

Forgot I had a vehicle inspected in September 2022. (cleaned it up)
Did the form change again since?


Yes. The new form is one page long. Vehicle inspected in December 2022. Car not home at the moment for me to snap it for you.

The sticker is very different as well. It has a holographic look.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby aaron17 » January 9th, 2023, 6:41 pm

Lol..they never check all that prior.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby DMan7 » January 9th, 2023, 7:13 pm

Wouldn't it make sense if they were less stricter with inspection given the state of the nation roads?

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby Cooper » January 11th, 2023, 3:20 pm

ATTENTION

If your getting your vehicle inspected at any of the independent stations, you might get redirected to the nearest licensing office to "query your vehicle."

I was just at a station in Cunupia and they told me that my vehicle was not on their database. The independent stations are using a new system to search for vehicles, verify details, upload pics etc. But not all the existing vehicles were migrated to the inspection station database.

The guy at the independent station told me that they send at least a dozen people a day to licensing. They will give you a paper to take to licensing for the query.

When I got to licensing, the security guard directed me to a query desk and they told me everything will be updated in a week, just go directly to the inspection station to complete your business.

Funny thing is I didn't have to speak to the security guard. She saw the paper in my hand and immediately gave me directions to the query counter.
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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby Cooper » January 11th, 2023, 3:23 pm

Even if you can find your vehicle on the public database online, it doesn't guarantee they will have it at the inspection station.
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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 11th, 2023, 3:58 pm

sounds like the silo the data to keep the inspection station data separate from the main records.
Might be a good thing, but it could be that a simple sync job failing and they hadda fix it.
Unless I giving them too much credit and some poor sap tasked with manually running a script, or worse doing a dump/restore.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby maj. tom » January 11th, 2023, 4:01 pm

:lol: everything will be on an Excel sheet.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 11th, 2023, 4:02 pm

maj. tom wrote::lol: everything will be on an Excel sheet.

omfg that is nightmare fuel
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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby mitch1980 » January 12th, 2023, 8:43 am

So I inspected two vehicles over the last 3 months
1 passed inspection - 2 year old hilux
1 failed inspection Monday this week

the failed inspection was that the ONLINE Chassis
Inspection footnote.jpeg
Number was Different from the Certified Copy and on the Vehicle.

the Garage said these last few months since the new License DB System was introduced they have found DOZENS on vehicles on a weekly basis with incorrect Chassis and engine number

this is as a result of errors made into the License Database.

FIx
Vehicles is marked as failed , a checklist and footnote is then done to indicate what the error is ,
An appointment with License Office is made to re-inspect vehicle.

once complete this is updated in the License Database and the person can go back to Inspection garage and complete inspection and get the RFID Sticker

in my case the letter "L" was replaced with the "1"


so spoke to few ple with same -
bro in law - "1" replaced with letter "I"

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby maj. tom » January 12th, 2023, 8:58 am

I swear Trinidad have manicou running the government public services.
So a completely their fault is now your fault.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby VexXx Dogg » January 12th, 2023, 9:00 am

mitch1980 wrote:So I inspected two vehicles over the last 3 months
1 passed inspection - 2 year old hilux
1 failed inspection Monday this week

the failed inspection was that the ONLINE ChassisInspection footnote.jpeg Number was Different from the Certified Copy and on the Vehicle.

the Garage said these last few months since the new License DB System was introduced they have found DOZENS on vehicles on a weekly basis with incorrect Chassis and engine number

this is as a result of errors made into the License Database.

FIx
Vehicles is marked as failed , a checklist and footnote is then done to indicate what the error is ,
An appointment with License Office is made to re-inspect vehicle.

once complete this is updated in the License Database and the person can go back to Inspection garage and complete inspection and get the RFID Sticker

in my case the letter "L" was replaced with the "1"


so spoke to few ple with same -
bro in law - "1" replaced with letter "I"


If your last name is Sin****, I just found a stupid expl0it in that inspection system.
I wonder if they have a bug bounty.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby wingnut » January 12th, 2023, 9:03 am

mitch1980 wrote:So I inspected two vehicles over the last 3 months
1 passed inspection - 2 year old hilux
1 failed inspection Monday this week

the failed inspection was that the ONLINE Chassis
Inspection footnote.jpeg
Number was Different from the Certified Copy and on the Vehicle.

the Garage said these last few months since the new License DB System was introduced they have found DOZENS on vehicles on a weekly basis with incorrect Chassis and engine number

this is as a result of errors made into the License Database.

FIx
Vehicles is marked as failed , a checklist and footnote is then done to indicate what the error is ,
An appointment with License Office is made to re-inspect vehicle.

once complete this is updated in the License Database and the person can go back to Inspection garage and complete inspection and get the RFID Sticker

in my case the letter "L" was replaced with the "1"


so spoke to few ple with same -
bro in law - "1" replaced with letter "I"
Would you have to pay the fee again and do another inspection after the error is corrected?

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby mitch1980 » January 12th, 2023, 10:40 am

wingnut wrote:
mitch1980 wrote:So I inspected two vehicles over the last 3 months
1 passed inspection - 2 year old hilux
1 failed inspection Monday this week

the failed inspection was that the ONLINE ChassisInspection footnote.jpeg Number was Different from the Certified Copy and on the Vehicle.

the Garage said these last few months since the new License DB System was introduced they have found DOZENS on vehicles on a weekly basis with incorrect Chassis and engine number

this is as a result of errors made into the License Database.

FIx
Vehicles is marked as failed , a checklist and footnote is then done to indicate what the error is ,
An appointment with License Office is made to re-inspect vehicle.

once complete this is updated in the License Database and the person can go back to Inspection garage and complete inspection and get the RFID Sticker

in my case the letter "L" was replaced with the "1"


so spoke to few ple with same -
bro in law - "1" replaced with letter "I"
Would you have to pay the fee again and do another inspection after the error is corrected?



No you do not have to repay the 300ttd Inspection Fee.
return to same Garage for updated Certificate and Sticker

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby Rovin » January 12th, 2023, 11:28 am

i wanted to inspect my ride this wk but i hear\see on fb like everybody rushing & d lines long by alot of inspection stations\garages all over so i will wait a wk to let d herd thin out a bit ...

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby bluefete » January 12th, 2023, 11:40 am

mitch1980 wrote:So I inspected two vehicles over the last 3 months
1 passed inspection - 2 year old hilux
1 failed inspection Monday this week

the failed inspection was that the ONLINE ChassisInspection footnote.jpeg Number was Different from the Certified Copy and on the Vehicle.


in my case the letter "L" was replaced with the "1"


so spoke to few ple with same -
bro in law - "1" replaced with letter "I"


Sounding like real Birth Certificate business when people inputting data cannot read original handwriting.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby *KRONIK* » January 12th, 2023, 11:51 am

bluefete wrote:
mitch1980 wrote:So I inspected two vehicles over the last 3 months
1 passed inspection - 2 year old hilux
1 failed inspection Monday this week

the failed inspection was that the ONLINE ChassisInspection footnote.jpeg Number was Different from the Certified Copy and on the Vehicle.


in my case the letter "L" was replaced with the "1"


so spoke to few ple with same -
bro in law - "1" replaced with letter "I"


Sounding like real Birth Certificate business when people inputting data cannot read original handwriting.
Common problem since they started doing the computerized transition

I had a similar issue, the hand written CC had a "G" that was typed as a "6" on the electronic side.
I told a LO when we were doing the transfer and they double checked everything and sorted it one time.
The ammendment was noted on the CC

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Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby MaxPower » January 12th, 2023, 12:15 pm

I eh understand LO being “stricter”.

Trinis need to read exactly what the law states and abide by that strictly to pass an inspection properly. But half way inspection and bribery is rampant.

Stop looking and begging for blighs.

Allyuh Trinis does have all these illegal items and cause hazards on the Nation’s roads in combination with ignorance and reckless behavior.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby *KRONIK* » January 12th, 2023, 12:33 pm

Boi....

I does cant understand trinis nah

Men begging for link for tint exemption, men beggin for inspection link, men begging for link for transfer

All easily solved by abiding by the rules.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby MaxPower » January 12th, 2023, 12:50 pm

^ exactly.

Again, all it takes is responsibility and it is a vital part in vehicle ownership.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby Alpha_2nr » January 12th, 2023, 12:54 pm

MaxPower wrote:I eh understand LO being “stricter”.

Trinis need to read exactly what the law states and abide by that strictly to pass an inspection properly. But half way inspection and bribery is rampant.

Stop looking and begging for blighs.

Allyuh Trinis does have all these illegal items and cause hazards on the Nation’s roads in combination with ignorance and reckless behavior.


not sure if some of the newer/younger members on here are interpreting these threads differently.....

.....but from what I'm reading here, most of the complaints centre around vehicles not having their data on the "online system", not by virtue of error of the owners (since most owners have little control over the upload of their data) but the errors and/or illiteracy of clerical staff at the MVA/LO who are entering said data.

My wife's car (3 yrs old, purchased new) was not on the system (you can check this yourself as well - https://apps.mowt.gov.tt/vrv ) and we had to return to LO three (3) times before this was corrected. There were typo errors in entry by LO of BOTH the VIN and Engine no, making the vehicle unsearchable on this grand system.

Given that after each visit, we were told we had to wait two (2) weeks before checking that the correction was made, one can easily see why this correction took over two months.

I'm struggling to see where this complaint about erroneous entries links to "blighs" .

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby mitch1980 » January 12th, 2023, 1:07 pm

Alpha_2nr wrote:
MaxPower wrote:I eh understand LO being “stricter”.

Trinis need to read exactly what the law states and abide by that strictly to pass an inspection properly. But half way inspection and bribery is rampant.

Stop looking and begging for blighs.

Allyuh Trinis does have all these illegal items and cause hazards on the Nation’s roads in combination with ignorance and reckless behavior.


not sure if some of the newer/younger members on here are interpreting these threads differently.....

.....but from what I'm reading here, most of the complaints centre around vehicles not having their data on the "online system", not by virtue of error of the owners (since most owners have little control over the upload of their data) but the errors and/or illiteracy of clerical staff at the MVA/LO who are entering said data.

My wife's car (3 yrs old, purchased new) was not on the system (you can check this yourself as well - https://apps.mowt.gov.tt/vrv ) and we had to return to LO three (3) times before this was corrected. There were typo errors in entry by LO of BOTH the VIN and Engine no, making the vehicle unsearchable on this grand system.

Given that after each visit, we were told we had to wait two (2) weeks before checking that the correction was made, one can easily see why this correction took over two months.

I'm struggling to see where this complaint about erroneous entries links to "blighs" .



Correct ... had to do inspection based on expiry Jan 2023.
for what ever reason be it Data Entry via Human or machine scanner via DMS ... I think the quality control failed miserable ...

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Postby redmanjp » January 12th, 2023, 1:23 pm

my inspection sticker expire due to issues with paint as well as alternator/battery issues rendering my car undrivable so when that is fixed i will be going to and from station and LO, hope they doh ketch me and fine me while doing that.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby *KRONIK* » January 12th, 2023, 1:42 pm

Alpha_2nr wrote:
MaxPower wrote:I eh understand LO being “stricter”.

Trinis need to read exactly what the law states and abide by that strictly to pass an inspection properly. But half way inspection and bribery is rampant.

Stop looking and begging for blighs.

Allyuh Trinis does have all these illegal items and cause hazards on the Nation’s roads in combination with ignorance and reckless behavior.


not sure if some of the newer/younger members on here are interpreting these threads differently.....

.....but from what I'm reading here, most of the complaints centre around vehicles not having their data on the "online system", not by virtue of error of the owners (since most owners have little control over the upload of their data) but the errors and/or illiteracy of clerical staff at the MVA/LO who are entering said data.

My wife's car (3 yrs old, purchased new) was not on the system (you can check this yourself as well - https://apps.mowt.gov.tt/vrv ) and we had to return to LO three (3) times before this was corrected. There were typo errors in entry by LO of BOTH the VIN and Engine no, making the vehicle unsearchable on this grand system.

Given that after each visit, we were told we had to wait two (2) weeks before checking that the correction was made, one can easily see why this correction took over two months.

I'm struggling to see where this complaint about erroneous entries links to "blighs" .
Its 2 seperate issues

But within 3 months of transferring a vehicle, i go pull a new certified copy to be sure my information is correct and on the system.

I have had to make multiple trips to LO to rectify similar issues where the vehicle wasnt on the system. But i didnt wait till January 2023 to do it. I sorted it out early so last year when they transitioned into the digital inspection and QR stickers.
I got all the vehicles in my family circle inspected easily.

Most of what i'm see is ppl not being proactive with their paperwork.

The issue with the "begs and blighs" mostly applies to those who are trying to circumvent the MVRT rules.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby gastly369 » January 12th, 2023, 6:02 pm

Hopefully this get rid of all the scrap iron and "rolling shells" on the roads.. well the piece of road that we have remaining that is

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Postby adnj » January 12th, 2023, 6:24 pm

Don't think of them as potholes. Think of them as driver's attention enhancement devices.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby MaxPower » January 12th, 2023, 6:25 pm

Alpha_2nr wrote:
I'm struggling to see where this complaint about erroneous entries links to "blighs" .


Few examples:

Window tint too dark, poor tyres, cracked windscreen.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby wagonrunner » January 12th, 2023, 6:30 pm

Check the vehicle's informaiton here before you go for inspection.
https://apps.mowt.gov.tt/vrv
Any discrepancies go to LO and get it corrected. (was free my last visit) as it should be, since it's their employee type in the rubbish.

The errors on the certified copy are nothing new.

A character on a vehicles chassis is 4.
It's clearly written on the old CC as 4
The data entry operator entered A and thats what was on the printed certified copy until its last inspection.

bluefete wrote:
wagonrunner wrote:Forgot I had a vehicle inspected in September 2022. (cleaned it up)
Did the form change again since?

Yes. The new form is one page long. Vehicle inspected in December 2022. Car not home at the moment for me to snap it for you.

The sticker is very different as well. It has a holographic look.

There was a car with a recent sticker, so took this pic and removed personal info as bluefete's car seemingly hit him a "dear john"
Old form had more information.
There is print on the back, but its passenger, receipt and inspection valid till info.
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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby Alpha_2nr » January 23rd, 2023, 11:28 am

*KRONIK* wrote:
Alpha_2nr wrote:
MaxPower wrote:I eh understand LO being “stricter”.

Trinis need to read exactly what the law states and abide by that strictly to pass an inspection properly. But half way inspection and bribery is rampant.

Stop looking and begging for blighs.

Allyuh Trinis does have all these illegal items and cause hazards on the Nation’s roads in combination with ignorance and reckless behavior.


not sure if some of the newer/younger members on here are interpreting these threads differently.....

.....but from what I'm reading here, most of the complaints centre around vehicles not having their data on the "online system", not by virtue of error of the owners (since most owners have little control over the upload of their data) but the errors and/or illiteracy of clerical staff at the MVA/LO who are entering said data.

My wife's car (3 yrs old, purchased new) was not on the system (you can check this yourself as well - https://apps.mowt.gov.tt/vrv ) and we had to return to LO three (3) times before this was corrected. There were typo errors in entry by LO of BOTH the VIN and Engine no, making the vehicle unsearchable on this grand system.

Given that after each visit, we were told we had to wait two (2) weeks before checking that the correction was made, one can easily see why this correction took over two months.

I'm struggling to see where this complaint about erroneous entries links to "blighs" .
Its 2 seperate issues

But within 3 months of transferring a vehicle, i go pull a new certified copy to be sure my information is correct and on the system.

I have had to make multiple trips to LO to rectify similar issues where the vehicle wasnt on the system. But i didnt wait till January 2023 to do it. I sorted it out early so last year when they transitioned into the digital inspection and QR stickers.
I got all the vehicles in my family circle inspected easily.

Most of what i'm see is ppl not being proactive with their paperwork.

The issue with the "begs and blighs" mostly applies to those who are trying to circumvent the MVRT rules.


Neither did I. I never waited until it was too late.

Switchover to the online system happened in March 2022 IIRC, car wasn't due for inspection, but I still checked!

1) Checked the system in April '22, saw no online records (despite CC being 100% correct) - I mean, when does LO do anything right?
2) Made appointment for "Vehicle Inspection Query" via the online website, to visit Licensing to have car corrected, and provide proof of correct CC and car information. Apparently there were single digit typos in each of the VIN and Eng. No.
3) Issue not resolved. Had to repeat two (2) more times (so I went three times) before the typo was corrected.

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Re: Licensing stations stricter with inspection

Postby timelapse » January 23rd, 2023, 12:25 pm

I gt normal

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