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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Habit7 » September 15th, 2021, 12:40 pm

bluefete wrote:Caroni was a remnant from Tate and Lyle and we ran it into the ground. As long as we had oil and gas, self-sufficiency in food was never a priority.
Your sequence is wrong. The UK owned Tate and Lyle was run into the ground and they were closing it down. The govt bought it and created Caroni 1975 Ltd which never made a profit since 1975.

Redress10 wrote:Bro, you are proving yourself to be the one uninformed on this forum. Wheat is readily available all over the world. America grows wheat to sustain its 350 million citizens and to export to millions/billions around the world. UK, canada, Russia etc are also wheat producers and exporters.

So unless there is a shortage that limits exports then wheat availability is a non issue for a population of 1.3 million ppl when wheat producers are producing it to meet the demand of hundreds of millions/billions worldwide. The only variable cost that would occur is the cost of shipping because it would need to be shipped here. That is the only variable.

On the issue of rice. That is gov't fault for building and developing agricultural land for political mileage. I say no more on that issue. On the availability of land for agricultural land all I have to ask is why not use Guyana? They have a land mass that is bigger than their population needs so why didn't the gov't which has been YOUR pnm government for 90% of the time reach out to Guyana to lease/buy hundreds and thousands of their lands for agricultural use. Since you know our land isn't "available".

Howcome China could spend billions buying up agricultural land in the USA to meet their needs but supporters such as yourself coming in this forum and saying the government can't do nothing. It is out of their hands.

Even global shipping prices could be countered with effective forecasting and pricing. Some of you all really brainwashed by politics inno.

Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
T&T 264/km2

Why are you comparing the largest countries in the world agriculture with T&T? USA has 40% agricultural land, we have 10%

Wheat Supplies Are Shrinking and It’s Bad News for Bread Prices
By Megan Durisin, Kim Chipman, and Khadija Kothia
14 de agosto de 2021 02:00 GMT-4

Rising costs will put a strain on households, importers
Prices at multiyear highs as crops cut in Russia, Canada
A heat damaged crop in Saanich, British Colombia, Canada, on Thursday, Aug. 12.

Crop losses in two of the world’s biggest wheat exporters and quality concerns in a third have pushed prices to multiyear highs, adding to worries about food price inflation for millions of the world’s most vulnerable.

Drought and heat continued to fry Canada’s wheat in July, months after a brutal winter hit the Russian crop. Those losses will only be partially offset by gains elsewhere for a crop planted on more land globally than any other, and used for basic foods like breads, pasta, and breakfast cereal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ead-prices


Guyana is a sovereign country, we cannot tell them what to do with their land. If rice prices are high, they will sell it at market prices without tariffs as a Caricom member. When they bought fuel from us we sold them at market prices without tariffs too. In the same way they can't say they can get cheap fuel because of Trinidad, we can't say we can get cheap rice because of Guyana.

You just have simplistic solutions to complex problems because you are uninformed. It is a lot more complicated than you think it is.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Ben_spanna » September 15th, 2021, 12:43 pm

And prices will continue to rise until possibly next Summer 2022, every single raw material has increased world wide... Shippign out of China and US and Europe has gone up by 5 to 8 times what it was in JAnuary of this year. Shipping companies dding logistical and handling fees more and more and finding additional ways to add on more charges... So far i have to say Trinidad has not been that badly impacted by the Shortage of Goods as many other countries have had recently..
Imagine KFC in the Uk almost had to close to a lack of chicken.....

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby De Dragon » September 15th, 2021, 12:47 pm

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Redress10 » September 15th, 2021, 1:16 pm

Habit7 wrote:
bluefete wrote:Caroni was a remnant from Tate and Lyle and we ran it into the ground. As long as we had oil and gas, self-sufficiency in food was never a priority.
Your sequence is wrong. The UK owned Tate and Lyle was run into the ground and they were closing it down. The govt bought it and created Caroni 1975 Ltd which never made a profit since 1975.

Redress10 wrote:Bro, you are proving yourself to be the one uninformed on this forum. Wheat is readily available all over the world. America grows wheat to sustain its 350 million citizens and to export to millions/billions around the world. UK, canada, Russia etc are also wheat producers and exporters.

So unless there is a shortage that limits exports then wheat availability is a non issue for a population of 1.3 million ppl when wheat producers are producing it to meet the demand of hundreds of millions/billions worldwide. The only variable cost that would occur is the cost of shipping because it would need to be shipped here. That is the only variable.

On the issue of rice. That is gov't fault for building and developing agricultural land for political mileage. I say no more on that issue. On the availability of land for agricultural land all I have to ask is why not use Guyana? They have a land mass that is bigger than their population needs so why didn't the gov't which has been YOUR pnm government for 90% of the time reach out to Guyana to lease/buy hundreds and thousands of their lands for agricultural use. Since you know our land isn't "available".

Howcome China could spend billions buying up agricultural land in the USA to meet their needs but supporters such as yourself coming in this forum and saying the government can't do nothing. It is out of their hands.

Even global shipping prices could be countered with effective forecasting and pricing. Some of you all really brainwashed by politics inno.

Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
T&T 264/km2

Why are you comparing the largest countries in the world agriculture with T&T? USA has 40% agricultural land, we have 10%

Wheat Supplies Are Shrinking and It’s Bad News for Bread Prices
By Megan Durisin, Kim Chipman, and Khadija Kothia
14 de agosto de 2021 02:00 GMT-4

Rising costs will put a strain on households, importers
Prices at multiyear highs as crops cut in Russia, Canada
A heat damaged crop in Saanich, British Colombia, Canada, on Thursday, Aug. 12.

Crop losses in two of the world’s biggest wheat exporters and quality concerns in a third have pushed prices to multiyear highs, adding to worries about food price inflation for millions of the world’s most vulnerable.

Drought and heat continued to fry Canada’s wheat in July, months after a brutal winter hit the Russian crop. Those losses will only be partially offset by gains elsewhere for a crop planted on more land globally than any other, and used for basic foods like breads, pasta, and breakfast cereal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ead-prices

Guyana is a sovereign country, we cannot tell them what to do with their land. If rice prices are high, they will sell it at market prices without tariffs as a Caricom member. When they bought fuel from us we sold them at market prices without tariffs too. In the same way they can't say they can get cheap fuel because of Trinidad, we can't say we can get cheap rice because of Guyana.

You just have simplistic solutions to complex problems because you are uninformed. It is a lot more complicated than you think it is.


But why didn't you include the population density of Guyana in your comparison to the USA and Russia? You are being very convenient with statistics. We only have 10% agricultural land because the gov't keeps building houses on it to give to their supporters for vote. The solution is simple stop building on agricultural land.

Where in my post did I give you the impression that we could tell Guyana what to do with its land? Isn't Guyana a member of Caricom as well so shouldn't we be able to reach favourable terms with a fellow caricom member to increase food production especially seeing that we have so little and they have so much? What part of buy/lease don't you understand. Didn't you read the part where I said that the Chinese are buying up agricultural lands in the US to meet their needs?

Could you please stop posting articles detailing rising food prices due to poor crop and seasonal abnormalities please? Those are usually one off events. Not all harvest seasons will be great but even when the harvest is great it doesn't seem to have an effect on the food prices in THIS country. Food prices go up because of one off abnormalities and when conditions normalise they remain up.

So Habit, what do you think is the solution to the high food prices here in TT and the Caribbean?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby De Dragon » September 15th, 2021, 1:21 pm

Redress10 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
bluefete wrote:Caroni was a remnant from Tate and Lyle and we ran it into the ground. As long as we had oil and gas, self-sufficiency in food was never a priority.
Your sequence is wrong. The UK owned Tate and Lyle was run into the ground and they were closing it down. The govt bought it and created Caroni 1975 Ltd which never made a profit since 1975.

Redress10 wrote:Bro, you are proving yourself to be the one uninformed on this forum. Wheat is readily available all over the world. America grows wheat to sustain its 350 million citizens and to export to millions/billions around the world. UK, canada, Russia etc are also wheat producers and exporters.

So unless there is a shortage that limits exports then wheat availability is a non issue for a population of 1.3 million ppl when wheat producers are producing it to meet the demand of hundreds of millions/billions worldwide. The only variable cost that would occur is the cost of shipping because it would need to be shipped here. That is the only variable.

On the issue of rice. That is gov't fault for building and developing agricultural land for political mileage. I say no more on that issue. On the availability of land for agricultural land all I have to ask is why not use Guyana? They have a land mass that is bigger than their population needs so why didn't the gov't which has been YOUR pnm government for 90% of the time reach out to Guyana to lease/buy hundreds and thousands of their lands for agricultural use. Since you know our land isn't "available".

Howcome China could spend billions buying up agricultural land in the USA to meet their needs but supporters such as yourself coming in this forum and saying the government can't do nothing. It is out of their hands.

Even global shipping prices could be countered with effective forecasting and pricing. Some of you all really brainwashed by politics inno.

Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
T&T 264/km2

Why are you comparing the largest countries in the world agriculture with T&T? USA has 40% agricultural land, we have 10%

Wheat Supplies Are Shrinking and It’s Bad News for Bread Prices
By Megan Durisin, Kim Chipman, and Khadija Kothia
14 de agosto de 2021 02:00 GMT-4

Rising costs will put a strain on households, importers
Prices at multiyear highs as crops cut in Russia, Canada
A heat damaged crop in Saanich, British Colombia, Canada, on Thursday, Aug. 12.

Crop losses in two of the world’s biggest wheat exporters and quality concerns in a third have pushed prices to multiyear highs, adding to worries about food price inflation for millions of the world’s most vulnerable.

Drought and heat continued to fry Canada’s wheat in July, months after a brutal winter hit the Russian crop. Those losses will only be partially offset by gains elsewhere for a crop planted on more land globally than any other, and used for basic foods like breads, pasta, and breakfast cereal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ead-prices

Guyana is a sovereign country, we cannot tell them what to do with their land. If rice prices are high, they will sell it at market prices without tariffs as a Caricom member. When they bought fuel from us we sold them at market prices without tariffs too. In the same way they can't say they can get cheap fuel because of Trinidad, we can't say we can get cheap rice because of Guyana.

You just have simplistic solutions to complex problems because you are uninformed. It is a lot more complicated than you think it is.


But why didn't you include the population density of Guyana in your comparison to the USA and Russia? You are being very convenient with statistics. We only have 10% agricultural land because the gov't keeps building houses on it to give to their supporters for vote. The solution is simple stop building on agricultural land.

Where in my post did I give you the impression that we could tell Guyana what to do with its land? Isn't Guyana a member of Caricom as well so shouldn't we be able to reach favourable terms with a fellow caricom member to increase food production especially seeing that we have so little and they have so much? What part of buy/lease don't you understand. Didn't you read the part where I said that the Chinese are buying up agricultural lands in the US to meet their needs?

Could you please stop posting articles detailing rising food prices due to poor crop and seasonal abnormalities please? Those are usually one off events. Not all harvest seasons will be great but even when the harvest is great it doesn't seem to have an effect on the food prices in THIS country. Food prices go up because of one off abnormalities and when conditions normalise they remain up.

So Habit, what do you think is the solution to the high food prices here in TT and the Caribbean?

Well he supports the LFD RFD PNM, so I guess, grass eating? :?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby timelapse » September 15th, 2021, 1:29 pm

When I spoke about hyper inflation during the last election thread I got popped down by the red and ready crew.To quote the goodly fellow Zoom Raider ,"take bull"

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby hover11 » September 15th, 2021, 1:46 pm

I actually have to agree with you and zoom no Government put anything in place to protect the citizens from this, now we are feeling the brunt due to prices worldwide are increasing to supply and demand constraints
timelapse wrote:When I spoke about hyper inflation during the last election thread I got popped down by the red and ready crew.To quote the goodly fellow Zoom Raider ,"take bull"

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Habit7 » September 15th, 2021, 2:00 pm

Redress10 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
bluefete wrote:Caroni was a remnant from Tate and Lyle and we ran it into the ground. As long as we had oil and gas, self-sufficiency in food was never a priority.
Your sequence is wrong. The UK owned Tate and Lyle was run into the ground and they were closing it down. The govt bought it and created Caroni 1975 Ltd which never made a profit since 1975.

Redress10 wrote:Bro, you are proving yourself to be the one uninformed on this forum. Wheat is readily available all over the world. America grows wheat to sustain its 350 million citizens and to export to millions/billions around the world. UK, canada, Russia etc are also wheat producers and exporters.

So unless there is a shortage that limits exports then wheat availability is a non issue for a population of 1.3 million ppl when wheat producers are producing it to meet the demand of hundreds of millions/billions worldwide. The only variable cost that would occur is the cost of shipping because it would need to be shipped here. That is the only variable.

On the issue of rice. That is gov't fault for building and developing agricultural land for political mileage. I say no more on that issue. On the availability of land for agricultural land all I have to ask is why not use Guyana? They have a land mass that is bigger than their population needs so why didn't the gov't which has been YOUR pnm government for 90% of the time reach out to Guyana to lease/buy hundreds and thousands of their lands for agricultural use. Since you know our land isn't "available".

Howcome China could spend billions buying up agricultural land in the USA to meet their needs but supporters such as yourself coming in this forum and saying the government can't do nothing. It is out of their hands.

Even global shipping prices could be countered with effective forecasting and pricing. Some of you all really brainwashed by politics inno.

Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
T&T 264/km2

Why are you comparing the largest countries in the world agriculture with T&T? USA has 40% agricultural land, we have 10%

Wheat Supplies Are Shrinking and It’s Bad News for Bread Prices
By Megan Durisin, Kim Chipman, and Khadija Kothia
14 de agosto de 2021 02:00 GMT-4

Rising costs will put a strain on households, importers
Prices at multiyear highs as crops cut in Russia, Canada
A heat damaged crop in Saanich, British Colombia, Canada, on Thursday, Aug. 12.

Crop losses in two of the world’s biggest wheat exporters and quality concerns in a third have pushed prices to multiyear highs, adding to worries about food price inflation for millions of the world’s most vulnerable.

Drought and heat continued to fry Canada’s wheat in July, months after a brutal winter hit the Russian crop. Those losses will only be partially offset by gains elsewhere for a crop planted on more land globally than any other, and used for basic foods like breads, pasta, and breakfast cereal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ead-prices

Guyana is a sovereign country, we cannot tell them what to do with their land. If rice prices are high, they will sell it at market prices without tariffs as a Caricom member. When they bought fuel from us we sold them at market prices without tariffs too. In the same way they can't say they can get cheap fuel because of Trinidad, we can't say we can get cheap rice because of Guyana.

You just have simplistic solutions to complex problems because you are uninformed. It is a lot more complicated than you think it is.


But why didn't you include the population density of Guyana in your comparison to the USA and Russia? You are being very convenient with statistics. We only have 10% agricultural land because the gov't keeps building houses on it to give to their supporters for vote. The solution is simple stop building on agricultural land.

Where in my post did I give you the impression that we could tell Guyana what to do with its land? Isn't Guyana a member of Caricom as well so shouldn't we be able to reach favourable terms with a fellow caricom member to increase food production especially seeing that we have so little and they have so much? What part of buy/lease don't you understand. Didn't you read the part where I said that the Chinese are buying up agricultural lands in the US to meet their needs?

Could you please stop posting articles detailing rising food prices due to poor crop and seasonal abnormalities please? Those are usually one off events. Not all harvest seasons will be great but even when the harvest is great it doesn't seem to have an effect on the food prices in THIS country. Food prices go up because of one off abnormalities and when conditions normalise they remain up.

So Habit, what do you think is the solution to the high food prices here in TT and the Caribbean?


Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
Guyana 3.5/km2
T&T 264/km2

I don't see how including Guyana helps your point.

You don't understand. TT, Guyana nor any other Caricom country sets prices, we are all price takers. If Guyana has rice that it is selling to TT for $500/ton and the world price is $1000/ton pretty soon they would divert their Caricom rice for the world rice market. I won't say they are wrong, when oil was +$100/ barrel did we give Guyana at a cheaper price? No. Why should they do the same for us?

Again you are getting confused. Growing more food locally solves the problem of food security but it doesn't lower prices. If food is selling for more outside of TT it will be exported either overtly or secretly. Just like with diesel bunker racket, if we have something locally that is artificially cheaper, it will create a black market for ppl to make money externally.

And growing locally some food more still doesn't overcome our inability to grow wheat, our inability to grow sugar cheaper, our inability to grow some of the legumes we desire year-round and the lack of feed for livestock and poultry.

And it is with your simplistic understanding you want me to engage in the same nonsense and provide a simple solution in a few characters for our problem. But unless you understand the complexity of the problem you won't understand the complexity of the solution.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby timelapse » September 15th, 2021, 2:06 pm

hover11 wrote:I actually have to agree with you and zoom no Government put anything in place to protect the citizens from this, now we are feeling the brunt due to prices worldwide are increasing to supply and demand constraints
timelapse wrote:When I spoke about hyper inflation during the last election thread I got popped down by the red and ready crew.To quote the goodly fellow Zoom Raider ,"take bull"
If you do actually agree with me on this, see if you agree with this...
Every time the government adjusts fuel costs, there is a trickle down effect which triggers hyper inflation.Get back to me when you have pondered on this

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Redress10 » September 15th, 2021, 2:42 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Redress10 wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
bluefete wrote:Caroni was a remnant from Tate and Lyle and we ran it into the ground. As long as we had oil and gas, self-sufficiency in food was never a priority.
Your sequence is wrong. The UK owned Tate and Lyle was run into the ground and they were closing it down. The govt bought it and created Caroni 1975 Ltd which never made a profit since 1975.

Redress10 wrote:Bro, you are proving yourself to be the one uninformed on this forum. Wheat is readily available all over the world. America grows wheat to sustain its 350 million citizens and to export to millions/billions around the world. UK, canada, Russia etc are also wheat producers and exporters.

So unless there is a shortage that limits exports then wheat availability is a non issue for a population of 1.3 million ppl when wheat producers are producing it to meet the demand of hundreds of millions/billions worldwide. The only variable cost that would occur is the cost of shipping because it would need to be shipped here. That is the only variable.

On the issue of rice. That is gov't fault for building and developing agricultural land for political mileage. I say no more on that issue. On the availability of land for agricultural land all I have to ask is why not use Guyana? They have a land mass that is bigger than their population needs so why didn't the gov't which has been YOUR pnm government for 90% of the time reach out to Guyana to lease/buy hundreds and thousands of their lands for agricultural use. Since you know our land isn't "available".

Howcome China could spend billions buying up agricultural land in the USA to meet their needs but supporters such as yourself coming in this forum and saying the government can't do nothing. It is out of their hands.

Even global shipping prices could be countered with effective forecasting and pricing. Some of you all really brainwashed by politics inno.

Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
T&T 264/km2

Why are you comparing the largest countries in the world agriculture with T&T? USA has 40% agricultural land, we have 10%

Wheat Supplies Are Shrinking and It’s Bad News for Bread Prices
By Megan Durisin, Kim Chipman, and Khadija Kothia
14 de agosto de 2021 02:00 GMT-4

Rising costs will put a strain on households, importers
Prices at multiyear highs as crops cut in Russia, Canada
A heat damaged crop in Saanich, British Colombia, Canada, on Thursday, Aug. 12.

Crop losses in two of the world’s biggest wheat exporters and quality concerns in a third have pushed prices to multiyear highs, adding to worries about food price inflation for millions of the world’s most vulnerable.

Drought and heat continued to fry Canada’s wheat in July, months after a brutal winter hit the Russian crop. Those losses will only be partially offset by gains elsewhere for a crop planted on more land globally than any other, and used for basic foods like breads, pasta, and breakfast cereal.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ead-prices

Guyana is a sovereign country, we cannot tell them what to do with their land. If rice prices are high, they will sell it at market prices without tariffs as a Caricom member. When they bought fuel from us we sold them at market prices without tariffs too. In the same way they can't say they can get cheap fuel because of Trinidad, we can't say we can get cheap rice because of Guyana.

You just have simplistic solutions to complex problems because you are uninformed. It is a lot more complicated than you think it is.


But why didn't you include the population density of Guyana in your comparison to the USA and Russia? You are being very convenient with statistics. We only have 10% agricultural land because the gov't keeps building houses on it to give to their supporters for vote. The solution is simple stop building on agricultural land.

Where in my post did I give you the impression that we could tell Guyana what to do with its land? Isn't Guyana a member of Caricom as well so shouldn't we be able to reach favourable terms with a fellow caricom member to increase food production especially seeing that we have so little and they have so much? What part of buy/lease don't you understand. Didn't you read the part where I said that the Chinese are buying up agricultural lands in the US to meet their needs?

Could you please stop posting articles detailing rising food prices due to poor crop and seasonal abnormalities please? Those are usually one off events. Not all harvest seasons will be great but even when the harvest is great it doesn't seem to have an effect on the food prices in THIS country. Food prices go up because of one off abnormalities and when conditions normalise they remain up.

So Habit, what do you think is the solution to the high food prices here in TT and the Caribbean?


Population density:
USA 33.6/km2
Russia 8.4/km2
Guyana 3.5/km2
T&T 264/km2

I don't see how including Guyana helps your point.

You don't understand. TT, Guyana nor any other Caricom country sets prices, we are all price takers. If Guyana has rice that it is selling to TT for $500/ton and the world price is $1000/ton pretty soon they would divert their Caricom rice for the world rice market. I won't say they are wrong, when oil was +$100/ barrel did we give Guyana at a cheaper price? No. Why should they do the same for us?

Again you are getting confused. Growing more food locally solves the problem of food security but it doesn't lower prices. If food is selling for more outside of TT it will be exported either overtly or secretly. Just like with diesel bunker racket, if we have something locally that is artificially cheaper, it will create a black market for ppl to make money externally.

And growing locally some food more still doesn't overcome our inability to grow wheat, our inability to grow sugar cheaper, our inability to grow some of the legumes we desire year-round and the lack of feed for livestock and poultry.

And it is with your simplistic understanding you want me to engage in the same nonsense and provide a simple solution in a few characters for our problem. But unless you understand the complexity of the problem you won't understand the complexity of the solution.



The reason I am including Guyana is because within the caribbean, it is an anomoly. Caribbean countries are tiny by nature. These are islands that we are living on that are some of the smallest on the planet. That will always present a problem in terms of growing your own food in order to sustain your food security.

Guyana on the other hand has a very small population but a land space that is almost as big as the UK if not bigger. The UK has a population that is 67 million ppl yet is food secure even with their limited land space. Even if everyone from the english speaking caribbean were to move to Guyana we would only number 6 million people in a land space almost the size of the Uk.

The UK also has harsh winters each year which impacts their agricultural land and what they could grow. With all of these challenges they are still more or less food secure.

Guyana selling rice to TT has no bearing if it is TT that owns the production of producing the rice. The same way that oil/gas companies operate in TT we could have had state companies operating in Guyana etc. Whatever the price of rice on the international market is not suppose to affect you if it is a caricom member trading with you. If you are paying international prices for caricom goods then caricom serves little purpose and should be abandoned immediately.

You keep talking about wheat and feed but that is where trade comes in. You grow a food the world requires in quantities that can offset your wheat/feed costs. But you can't do that unless you have the land to do it on. The only solution to that is acquiring more land outside of TT borders.

Oh btw...growing more food will result in lower prices. It's called not having to pay shipping costs and duties etc. Not to mention the benefits of added jobs in agricultural sector and trickle down effects. What econ class did you even sit down in?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby hover11 » September 15th, 2021, 2:54 pm

Ofc if you increase the price of diesel that will be an overhead cost thus the price of everything would increase, you notice they don't touch diesel much unless they have to, mostly everything important in this country runs by desiel from maxis to those cargo trucks, when the subsidy is fully removed that will be sad day for the poor man
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hover11 wrote:I actually have to agree with you and zoom no Government put anything in place to protect the citizens from this, now we are feeling the brunt due to prices worldwide are increasing to supply and demand constraints
timelapse wrote:When I spoke about hyper inflation during the last election thread I got popped down by the red and ready crew.To quote the goodly fellow Zoom Raider ,"take bull"
If you do actually agree with me on this, see if you agree with this...
Every time the government adjusts fuel costs, there is a trickle down effect which triggers hyper inflation.Get back to me when you have pondered on this

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby timelapse » September 15th, 2021, 3:28 pm

Me with my measley C in A levels econ understands economics better than most red government finance ministers.Either that or they understand it only to benefit themselves.
Abu ain't wrong.If the current government keeps along this path, there will be unrest.It is very similar to the NAR regime at this point

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby dogg » September 15th, 2021, 4:12 pm

Yes folks, only Trinidad and Tobago suffering from food price inflation.

not Britain:
UK inflation hits highest figure in almost a decade as food prices rise


Not murca or India:
From India to US, sharpest rise in food price since 1970s challenges govts


Africa?
Food prices in South Africa have continued to rise in 2021, with inflation on food and non-alcoholic beverages for July 2021 recorded at 6.7%.


Cuss Lok Jack, but give Nestle a pass:
Nestlé says food prices to rise as inflation bites: ‘Expect to see pricing ramping up’


You all need to peek outside your tiny little bubble now and then.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Redress10 » September 15th, 2021, 4:35 pm

dogg wrote:Yes folks, only Trinidad and Tobago suffering from food price inflation.

not Britain:
UK inflation hits highest figure in almost a decade as food prices rise


Not murca or India:
From India to US, sharpest rise in food price since 1970s challenges govts


Africa?
Food prices in South Africa have continued to rise in 2021, with inflation on food and non-alcoholic beverages for July 2021 recorded at 6.7%.


Cuss Lok Jack, but give Nestle a pass:
Nestlé says food prices to rise as inflation bites: ‘Expect to see pricing ramping up’


You all need to peek outside your tiny little bubble now and then.


Yes bro...add a set of random articles with little context to make things sound bad. Price increases always happen. All over the world, we know this but like for like, goods are still way cheaper overseas than in TT when the only variable costs should be shipping and duties but you all love to act as though trinis living in their own little bubbles.

None of you all could explain how a person could buy a product overseas, ship it and pay duties etc and it still way cheaper than what these "business" people sell it for in the stores. But guess what? The online tax was put in placs to stop all of that. But as Habit say Gubberement cyah do nothing.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rexsmith » September 15th, 2021, 4:54 pm

I pass through the market yesterday and they wanted $20 for 3 chives or celery

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby hover11 » September 15th, 2021, 5:19 pm

How everybody complaining about Digestives but it still selling?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby viedcht » September 15th, 2021, 9:33 pm

A chocolate digestive is $3TT, a York peppermint pattie in the same aisle is $11-13TT some stores. How to gauge the markup on these things really? Forget the ingredients, focus on the final product. Import vs local product.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Redress10 » September 15th, 2021, 10:12 pm

But it's the same digestive that they selling in a pack for $9 dollars that they take out and dip in chocolate. A bobby probably have more chocolate than a digestive on it.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby hover11 » September 16th, 2021, 10:47 am

People complaining for $3 biscuit but no one cares we living in 2021 bills with 2013 salaries?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 16th, 2021, 11:12 am

Ent short balls say 0 0 0.. you still looking for raise?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby hover11 » September 16th, 2021, 11:18 am

I know they always start with 000 but come on that is tyrannical, you can't expect persons to not have an increase going on for 8 years now and the cost of living sharply increases unexpectedly. Anyway like he said we ain riot yet, nobody striking and ppl not complaining so I guess everybody happy

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby timelapse » September 16th, 2021, 4:34 pm

I back on keto, so snacks not bothering me.What I trying to find is local cauliflower.Those foreign ones too expensive with the amount of it I consume

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby DMan7 » September 16th, 2021, 4:39 pm

I have some frozen cauliflower in my freezer, yuh want?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby timelapse » September 16th, 2021, 4:55 pm

Nah fresh thanks.I like it air fried in ghee

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby SMc » September 16th, 2021, 5:01 pm

timelapse wrote:Nah fresh thanks.I like it air fried in ghee
:lol: what's the plan behind air frying in ghee?

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby DMan7 » September 16th, 2021, 5:02 pm

It's fresh frozen.

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby timelapse » September 16th, 2021, 5:48 pm

SMc wrote:
timelapse wrote:Nah fresh thanks.I like it air fried in ghee
what's the plan behind air frying in ghee?
Taste good and comes out crunchy.I don't like oil and fat, so I have to sneak it in when I on keto.
Season the cauliflower in Italian seasoning and pepper flakes,roll it up in some ghee and air fry til brown .The cauliflower has to be fresh-ish or will melt.
Wife baked salmon steaks and said cauliflower for dinner today.Was good

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » September 27th, 2021, 11:57 am

Fake or no
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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Soul Collector » September 27th, 2021, 12:01 pm

Was told by the shopkeeper that Kiss raising bread prices too so seems legit. I duno since when sprinkling some oats on the top of a loaf does make it "whole grain" nuh :roll:

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Re: Food prices in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Ben_spanna » September 27th, 2021, 12:53 pm

Grocery stores raping their customers! its on the wall............ read the signs and shop elsewhere.

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