1 million International Students in the US to be sent home?

zoom rader · Postby **zoom rader** » July 8th, 2020, 9:34 pm

Redress10 wrote:
popozan wrote:
EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:UWI is one of the best Universities on the planet, their Engineering Degrees are triple accredited on par with the top colleges in the world even Ivy League.

Forget useless ranking that incorporates "teaching scores and facilities etc" that has no meaning when it comes to accreditation.

People need to appreciate what we have in Trinidad, when you study locally you also save the country on it's precious Foreign Exchange and you may also limit your narcissistic personality.

In any event this may not even matter one arse since Trump said he would sign an Executive Order to force all schools to reopen.

Okay, gimme some advice....what would be a good program for someone to study? Eng? Med? Place stacked with graduates

Doesn't matter what you study as the university doesn't determine graduate absorption in the workplace, the economy does. As long as the economy is a mess, graduates will always find it hard to be employed.

Why do ppl in TT just use such a generic term as "engineering"? Do they actually mean "electrical engineering"?

Most engineering UWI folk end up as mangers or heads of departments. They are just pen pushers .

They dont do engineering work, most companies employ contractors to do real engineering and design.

adnj · Postby **adnj** » July 9th, 2020, 1:55 pm

zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Redress10 wrote:^ That list is for universities that have been around for under 80 years old. Basically "new" universities. The oldest university in the world was founded in 1088. Oxford university is over 800 years old.

That's a good list to be mentioned amongst though.
University of Karueein, founded in 859 AD in Fez, Morocco.
And now for the correct answer:

The word university is derived from the Latin: universitas magistrorum et scholarium, which approximately means "community of teachers and scholars". The term was coined by the Italian University of Bologna, which, with a traditional founding date of 1088, is considered to be the first university. The origin of many medieval universities can be traced back to the Christian cathedral schools or monastic schools, which appeared as early as the 6th century and were run for hundreds of years as such before their formal establishment as universities in the high medieval period.

Other institutions of higher learning, such as those of ancient Greece, ancient Persia, ancient Rome, Byzantium, ancient China, ancient India and the Islamic world, are not included in this list owing to their cultural, historical, structural and juristic dissimilarities from the medieval European university from which the modern university evolved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_o ... _operation
I think we are referring to unis that are still running.

Bologna is very much current and ranks in the global 200.

Unfortunately you have blurted out an oft misused and misleading reference. Al-Karaouine spent the first centuries of its existence as a center for teachings in the Quran. It was not a center of academic research and publication, which are defining characteristics of a university.

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The University of Bologna is a public institution that traces its roots back to 1088. In a recent year, around 85,000 students attended the Italian university, and roughly seven percent of the student body was international. The institution has five campuses located in Bologna, Cesena, Forlì, Ravenna and Rimini. The university’s main campus is in Bologna; about three-quarters of the student body studies there. The university also has a campus in Buenos Aires, Argentina.

https://www.unibo.it/en

Postby **pete** » July 9th, 2020, 3:32 pm

teems1 wrote:
MG Man wrote:tl;dr
but what's the problem? If a uni is offering distance learning, why do you need to live in the people country?

After you graduate, international students usually given a 90 day period.

They use this time to sort out their rents/leases and get back their deposit. End the cell phone contract. Close their bank accounts. Sell or ship their acquired furniture etc.

Do they do all these things now? Won't they need their apartments back for the semester after? Can they break their lease? What about furniture/phone, or even a car they purchased. It seems like a logistical nightmare.

DT seems to be using this as leverage to get universities to open, so he can claim schools are reopening.

No, students get a 1 year work permit. It's a way for the US to get smart and then highly educated people to enter their workforce which has helped build the country up over time.

Kicking international students out will have two effects. Those people won't be able to return and once that precedent is set, international students will stop going to Colleges there. Colleges make a LOT of money from international students as they generally have higher tuition costs as well.