Sedition Act Prevails: Sat loss: Duke's case dismissed

[hydroep]

Sedition yes. Is like the authorities forget "Trini only have mouth"...

[zoom rader]

Yep PNM new weapon. Freedom of speech is now longer allowed Under PNM.

This is what stupid people voted for

[Ben_spanna]

So is he really at a medical facility? talk around is that as he was detained he suddenly got the "mcdoland" and felt very unwell - that seems to be going around.

[Rovin]

ppl all over d net are making fun of politicians suddenly getting sick after being held by police - i wud think any normal person will naturally feel a degree of sickness if u get held too

if any of us regular folks wud be allowed to get d same medical treatment i dunno .....

[maj. tom]

Obvious panic attacks/severe anxiety do occur, but moreover, it's a stalling tactic for the lawyers to do their homework while the accused gets relatively good treatment at a hospital bed than a holding cell.

[Ben_spanna]

Obvious panic attacks/severe anxiety do occur, but moreover, it's a stalling tactic for the lawyers to do their homework while the accused gets relatively good treatment at a hospital bed than a holding cell.

Ok then fine, take them the NATIONS medical institution, Not a private medical facility.... is there any proof of who paid for these "convenient visits" ???? who paid for MArlenes last visit to St clair and her stay there?

[hydroep]

Natuc: Scrap Sedition Act
Clint Chan Tack

THE National Trade Union Centre (Natuc) is alleging that the Sedition Act is being used to detain its president Watson Duke for speaking out against the Government.

Natuc general secretary Michael Annisette made this claim during a news conference at the Public Services Association's (PSA) office in Port of Spain on Thursday.

Duke is also PSA president.

Describing the legislation as draconian and outdated, Annisette said Natuc has spoken with a team of lawyers, led by Nyree Alfonso, about challenging the constitutionality of the law in court.

He added that Alfonso will advise Natuc when and how to proceed.

Annisette also said Natuc has obtained a commitment from the Opposition UNC to raise the repeal of the act in Parliament.

While he did not speak directly to the Opposition Leader on this issue, Annisette said, he has spoken with other UNC members and activists.

Natuc, he continued, is considering other strategies to call for the removal of the law. These include writing to Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi; lobbying Opposition and Independent senators; and issuing a petition on social media.

Annisette asked what seditious comment Duke is accused of making.

He also claimed the actions against Duke were aimed at belittling him, would backfire and turn him into a person the population will respect.

Annisette warned the Government it would have a price to pay when local government and general elections are held this year and next year respectively.

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/08/29/natuc-scrap-sedition-act/

[zoom rader]

Natuc: Scrap Sedition Act
Clint Chan Tack

THE National Trade Union Centre (Natuc) is alleging that the Sedition Act is being used to detain its president Watson Duke for speaking out against the Government.

Natuc general secretary Michael Annisette made this claim during a news conference at the Public Services Association's (PSA) office in Port of Spain on Thursday.

Duke is also PSA president.

Describing the legislation as draconian and outdated, Annisette said Natuc has spoken with a team of lawyers, led by Nyree Alfonso, about challenging the constitutionality of the law in court.

He added that Alfonso will advise Natuc when and how to proceed.

Annisette also said Natuc has obtained a commitment from the Opposition UNC to raise the repeal of the act in Parliament.

While he did not speak directly to the Opposition Leader on this issue, Annisette said, he has spoken with other UNC members and activists.

Natuc, he continued, is considering other strategies to call for the removal of the law. These include writing to Attorney General Faris Al-Rawi; lobbying Opposition and Independent senators; and issuing a petition on social media.

Annisette asked what seditious comment Duke is accused of making.

He also claimed the actions against Duke were aimed at belittling him, would backfire and turn him into a person the population will respect.

Annisette warned the Government it would have a price to pay when local government and general elections are held this year and next year respectively.

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/08/29/natuc-scrap-sedition-act/

Where was the union to respond when PNM was attacking Sat Marah

[bluefete]

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 45f73.html

Sedition charge for Duke

Public Services Association president Watson Duke, is to face at least one charge under the Sedition Act.

National Security Minister Stuart Young disclosed at Thursday's post Cabinet media briefing that he was, shortly before, informed that the Director of Public Prosecutions, Roger Gaspard, has issued instructions to the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service to lay at least one charge against Duke.

Duke was arrested Monday to face questions over statements he made publicly several months ago.

The union boss has been in hospital the past two days, after falling ill while detained.

Young denied Government had any prior knowledge of Duke's arrest, saying it was entirely the work of the TTPS.

He also refuted some claims that freedom of speech was under attack and that Government was seeking to amend the Sedition Act.

[bluefete]

Not even the NAR with a 33-3 seats in Parliament, ever charged anyone with Sedition for speaking out.

You really believe that was a threat made by Duke?

[88sins]

Heath said if charge/s are to be laid on his client it would hinge on state­ments he made on No­vem­ber 16, 2018.

Re­act­ing to job lay­offs at TSTT and a state­ment by the Com­mu­ni­ca­tion Work­ers Union that job cuts could al­so be ex­pect­ed at T&TEC and WASA, Duke said then: “We must be pre­pared to die, folks. You know why? This is your be­lief, this is your fam­i­ly, and I am send­ing the mes­sage clear, let Row­ley them know that the day they come for us in WASA, we are pre­pared to die and the morgue would be pick­ing up peo­ple.”

IF these are the exact words they referring to, that case gonna be like trying to glue a broken glass back together with dry red sand.

[apole69]

What exactly is sedition ? This is a throwback to a whole different era. It has no place in a modern and developed society. It was used by the Colonizers to keep the subjects in line.

[toyolink]

The utterances of many of our 'leaders' have historically proven some lack of judgement, but to reach the level of sedition the standard in law is much higher and is akin to a constructive utterance designed to over-throw the govt.
The DPP seems at this time to be over-jealous and bent on teaching those with loose tongues a lesson.
The question remains, is this his true function and what about the appearance of removing the right of free speech.
In some ways the TTPS needs to be careful that they are not unwittingly becoming agents in a far more dangerous initiative.
History has shown that a country which is already on edge can easily be triggered by foolish acts of the state.

[Redman]

3. (1) A seditious intention is an intention— (a) to bring into hatred or contempt, or to excite disaffection against Government or the Constitution as by law established or the House of Representatives or the Senate or the administration of justice; (b) to excite any person to attempt, otherwise than by lawful means, to procure the alteration of any matter in the State by law established; (c) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago; (d) to engender or promote— (i) feelings of ill-will or hostility between one or more sections of the community on the one hand and any other section or sections of the community on the other hand; or (ii) feelings of ill-will towards, hostility to or contempt for any class of inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, profession, calling or employment; or (e) to advocate or promote, with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, the commission of any of the following acts, namely: (i) killing members of the group; or (ii) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction.

But an act, speech, statement or publication is not seditious by reason only that it intends to show that the Government
has been misled or mistaken in its measures, or to point out errors or defects in the Government or Constitution as by law established, with a view to their reformation, or to excite persons to attempt by lawful means the alteration of any matter in the State by law established, or to point out, with a view to their removal by lawful means, matters which are producing, or have a tendency to produce— (a) feelings of ill-will, hostility or contempt between different sections of the community; or (b) feelings of ill-will, hostility or contempt between different classes of the inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, Determination of intention. Offences. [36 of 1971]. profession, calling or employment. (3) In determining whether the intention with which any act was done, any words were spoken or communicated, or any document was published, was or was not seditious, every person shall be deemed to intend the consequences which would naturally follow from his conduct at the time and under the circumstances in which he so conducted himself.

[hydroep]

He go call M'Baku fuh Rowlee MC...

[maj. tom]

Can't wait for the usual 2020 braying about constitutional reform, etc.

[zoom rader]

3. (1) A seditious intention is an intention— (a) to bring into hatred or contempt, or to excite disaffection against Government or the Constitution as by law established or the House of Representatives or the Senate or the administration of justice; (b) to excite any person to attempt, otherwise than by lawful means, to procure the alteration of any matter in the State by law established; (c) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago; (d) to engender or promote— (i) feelings of ill-will or hostility between one or more sections of the community on the one hand and any other section or sections of the community on the other hand; or (ii) feelings of ill-will towards, hostility to or contempt for any class of inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, profession, calling or employment; or (e) to advocate or promote, with intent to destroy in whole or in part any identifiable group, the commission of any of the following acts, namely: (i) killing members of the group; or (ii) deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction.

But an act, speech, statement or publication is not seditious by reason only that it intends to show that the Government
has been misled or mistaken in its measures, or to point out errors or defects in the Government or Constitution as by law established, with a view to their reformation, or to excite persons to attempt by lawful means the alteration of any matter in the State by law established, or to point out, with a view to their removal by lawful means, matters which are producing, or have a tendency to produce— (a) feelings of ill-will, hostility or contempt between different sections of the community; or (b) feelings of ill-will, hostility or contempt between different classes of the inhabitants of Trinidad and Tobago distinguished by race, colour, religion, Determination of intention. Offences. [36 of 1971]. profession, calling or employment. (3) In determining whether the intention with which any act was done, any words were spoken or communicated, or any document was published, was or was not seditious, every person shall be deemed to intend the consequences which would naturally follow from his conduct at the time and under the circumstances in which he so conducted himself.

PNM is guilty of all above.

[zoom rader]

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/sedition-charge-for-duke/article_0328aa00-ca92-11e9-8de1-67df9fb45f73.html

Sedition charge for Duke

Public Services Association president Watson Duke, is to face at least one charge under the Sedition Act.

National Security Minister Stuart Young disclosed at Thursday's post Cabinet media briefing that he was, shortly before, informed that the Director of Public Prosecutions, Roger Gaspard, has issued instructions to the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service to lay at least one charge against Duke.

Duke was arrested Monday to face questions over statements he made publicly several months ago.

The union boss has been in hospital the past two days, after falling ill while detained.

Young denied Government had any prior knowledge of Duke's arrest, saying it was entirely the work of the TTPS.

He also refuted some claims that freedom of speech was under attack and that Government was seeking to amend the Sedition Act.

PNM lied , they called the pnm police to harass him.

A small group of PNM is controlling the police

[ProtonPowder]

The government of the day has chosen to speed down the route of laying charges against many a public figure who speaks out against them.

Rifle through the archives and find something, anything that PNM enemy #1 of the week has uttered in the last few months that can be held against them, and charge them with sedition.

In addition to this, red-light cameras and the facial recognition database that Faris is so eagerly bragging about, selective enforcement will be used to find the tiniest infraction that every John Public commits unknowingly on a daily basis.

Nickel and dime their license demerit points, take away their ability to legally drive and earn a living. Make their lives hell. All while a big mouthed CoP claims to be impartial, and might even throw an insult or two at the government every month to really fool the public.

The police state is just beginning.

[88sins]

this reeks of a plot to attempt to discredit an individual in an effort to stymie the advancement of his political career.

[Gladiator]

The government of the day has chosen to speed down the route of laying charges against many a public figure who speaks out against them.

Rifle through the archives and find something, anything that PNM enemy #1 of the week has uttered in the last few months that can be held against them, and charge them with sedition.

In addition to this, red-light cameras and the facial recognition database that Faris is so eagerly bragging about, selective enforcement will be used to find the tiniest infraction that every John Public commits unknowingly on a daily basis.

Nickel and dime their license demerit points, take away their ability to legally drive and earn a living. Make their lives hell. All while a big mouthed CoP claims to be impartial, and might even throw an insult or two at the government every month to really fool the public.

The police state is just beginning.

I seeing the same thing too... but why drive the country into a failed state? what is there to benefit form having half the population unemployed and destitute?

Is it that the country is being run to the ground to sell it out to some outside entity or we falling in with a new world order?

[zoom rader]

The government of the day has chosen to speed down the route of laying charges against many a public figure who speaks out against them.

Rifle through the archives and find something, anything that PNM enemy #1 of the week has uttered in the last few months that can be held against them, and charge them with sedition.

In addition to this, red-light cameras and the facial recognition database that Faris is so eagerly bragging about, selective enforcement will be used to find the tiniest infraction that every John Public commits unknowingly on a daily basis.

Nickel and dime their license demerit points, take away their ability to legally drive and earn a living. Make their lives hell. All while a big mouthed CoP claims to be impartial, and might even throw an insult or two at the government every month to really fool the public.

The police state is just beginning.

Ppl voted for dat

[The_Honourable]

Allegedly this is the statement the police wasting resources on.

“We must be pre­pared to die, folks. You know why? This is your be­lief, this is your fam­i­ly, and I am send­ing the mes­sage clear, let Row­ley them know that the day they come for us in WASA, we are pre­pared to die and the morgue would be pick­ing up peo­ple.”

[ProtonPowder]

I seeing the same thing too... but why drive the country into a failed state? what is there to benefit form having half the population unemployed and destitute?

Is it that the country is being run to the ground to sell it out to some outside entity or we falling in with a new world order?

The population will catch on but will be entirely unable to stop it. Remember you need permission from good 'ol CoP to protest too eh.

You'll only be targeted if you speak out, so people by and large will just shut up and be compliant.

Between that and the rampant monopolisation of nearly every industry in TnT, the government and the titans of the private sector will have something to be coveted: a passive and consuming people.

[Keyser Soze]

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/sedition-charge-for-duke/article_0328aa00-ca92-11e9-8de1-67df9fb45f73.html

Sedition charge for Duke

Public Services Association president Watson Duke, is to face at least one charge under the Sedition Act.

National Security Minister Stuart Young disclosed at Thursday's post Cabinet media briefing that he was, shortly before, informed that the Director of Public Prosecutions, Roger Gaspard, has issued instructions to the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service to lay at least one charge against Duke.

Duke was arrested Monday to face questions over statements he made publicly several months ago.

The union boss has been in hospital the past two days, after falling ill while detained.

Young denied Government had any prior knowledge of Duke's arrest, saying it was entirely the work of the TTPS.

He also refuted some claims that freedom of speech was under attack and that Government was seeking to amend the Sedition Act.

PNM lied , they called the pnm police to harass him.

A small group of PNM is controlling the police

I usually don't see eye to eye with you on anything but e are of the same opinion on this...
I wonder when the public is going to see how dangerous an era we are in now.

[bluefete]

The next thing you know is that the PNM will come for all of us posters on this forum. Starting with Zoomie.

Let me tell Rowley and company now - Eff off.

[rspann]

Lemme keep my ass quiet yes!

[bluefete]

Now is NOT the time to be quiet.

Lemme keep my ass quiet yes!

[rspann]

Tonton macoutes locking yuh up for talking yes! What part of that seditious?

[zoom rader]

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/sedition-charge-for-duke/article_0328aa00-ca92-11e9-8de1-67df9fb45f73.html

Sedition charge for Duke

Public Services Association president Watson Duke, is to face at least one charge under the Sedition Act.

National Security Minister Stuart Young disclosed at Thursday's post Cabinet media briefing that he was, shortly before, informed that the Director of Public Prosecutions, Roger Gaspard, has issued instructions to the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service to lay at least one charge against Duke.

Duke was arrested Monday to face questions over statements he made publicly several months ago.

The union boss has been in hospital the past two days, after falling ill while detained.

Young denied Government had any prior knowledge of Duke's arrest, saying it was entirely the work of the TTPS.

He also refuted some claims that freedom of speech was under attack and that Government was seeking to amend the Sedition Act.

PNM lied , they called the pnm police to harass him.

A small group of PNM is controlling the police

I usually don't see eye to eye with you on anything but e are of the same opinion on this...
I wonder when the public is going to see how dangerous an era we are in now.

All it takes is a phone call to the PNM police.

They did it with Sat Marajh and now Duke. Don't forget the recent 1% media report on suspected big bussinesmen but left out themselfs as criminals.