Cambridge Analytica funded the "Do So" campaign to get UNC elected?

[MG Man]

Internationally the CA scandal was that they used people's FB data without explicit consent. If I clicked "ok" and participated in a FB quiz from CA, they accessed my friends' prelim data without the consent of my friends

The firm was deemed unethical in its data gathering.

Did CA's clients know of the firm's unethical practices and were complicit?

Did clients hire CA based on the firm's ability to gather data and conduct research based on such data?

This manipulation of the masses is an established science and has been going on for over a century. It started with Freud and was commercialized by Bernays. It was the genesis of "public relations "

Pretty much. So the question now is what can the ordinary person do to protect themselves from having their opinions easily swayed by PR specialists? I always suggest fact checking but who really has the time when you are constantly being bombarded by information?

stop clicking on so much damn dotish shht on facebook

Shims man, is 'OCD test' this and 'how yuh go look as ah pantyman' that
Want to feel you saving the planet? 'ermergerrd I'm not using plastic straws...boycott plastic straws'....that's how easy it is to distract a global population
Reality is humans are too lazy to be actively objective about anything. They thrive on confirmation bias, and the shadows are fully aware of that, so it's only gonna get worse

[moses_boss12]

I actually do remember the Do-So campaign, interesting to hear others dont recall.

But i think a vast majority of posters clearly dont understand what happened and the underlining issue when things like this happen.

And for some grown adults, not everything has to become emotional and defensive, it happened already and nothing going to change it. So stop carrying on like you really know the truth behind intentions, because only those in the meeting room know the intention. What is clear, is that our politicians are all low, but the constant defending and mudslinging is trivial and the longer you take to realize that you are nothing more than a tool to these politicians, the longer it would take you to recognize the country you want to see.

But some of you fall for the trap over and over again.

[Slartibartfast]

Internationally the CA scandal was that they used people's FB data without explicit consent. If I clicked "ok" and participated in a FB quiz from CA, they accessed my friends' prelim data without the consent of my friends

The firm was deemed unethical in its data gathering.

Did CA's clients know of the firm's unethical practices and were complicit?

Did clients hire CA based on the firm's ability to gather data and conduct research based on such data?

This manipulation of the masses is an established science and has been going on for over a century. It started with Freud and was commercialized by Bernays. It was the genesis of "public relations "

Pretty much. So the question now is what can the ordinary person do to protect themselves from having their opinions easily swayed by PR specialists? I always suggest fact checking but who really has the time when you are constantly being bombarded by information?

stop clicking on so much damn dotish shht on facebook

Shims man, is 'OCD test' this and 'how yuh go look as ah pantyman' that
Want to feel you saving the planet? 'ermergerrd I'm not using plastic straws...boycott plastic straws'....that's how easy it is to distract a global population
Reality is humans are too lazy to be actively objective about anything. They thrive on confirmation bias, and the shadows are fully aware of that, so it's only gonna get worse

There is a quote I once heard that I think is applicable (can't find it on google, only getting bullsh!t inspirational quotes)

Person 1 - "There will come a time when it is no longer possible to keep information hidden"
Person 2 - "There will come a time when there is so much information that you no longer need to"

[rspann]

Distraction from. Emailgate. Loss to Nyree Alfonso. Hinds outta timing talk.

[sMASH]

person 2 - hinds - obfuscation specialist

[The_Honourable]

“The Great Hack” is a misinformed documentary about misinformation

"Perhaps “The Great Hack” is the documentary the Facebook era deserves. Like an argument on the social network, it is tedious, seemingly complicated but intellectually underdeveloped, crammed with false facts and exaggerated statistics and features several blowhards who veer between self-righteous and self-congratulatory. Like one of those arguments, nobody comes out looking good in the end."

Full Article: https://www.economist.com/prospero/2019 ... nformation

[VexXx Dogg]

“The Great Hack” is a misinformed documentary about misinformation

"Perhaps “The Great Hack” is the documentary the Facebook era deserves. Like an argument on the social network, it is tedious, seemingly complicated but intellectually underdeveloped, crammed with false facts and exaggerated statistics and features several blowhards who veer between self-righteous and self-congratulatory. Like one of those arguments, nobody comes out looking good in the end."

Full Article: https://www.economist.com/prospero/2019 ... nformation

Nice perspective.

[zoom rader]

Great, I need some dumb arse third party to tell me not to vote PNM.

[toyolink]

I am still trying to understand all the issues surrounding 'data mining and or psychological manipulation'.
What strikes me is that many of the complaints being surfaced may apply to what was commonly referred to as market research which informed how goods, services and even messages to target groups were tailored.
What is different is that public social networks are harvesting personal profiles in the background and selling the information to third parties...…..the question then becomes are they really in breach of any undertaking with those who choose to use their sites and expose themselves.
Low tech= market research
High tech= data mining?

[zoom rader]

I am still trying to understand all the issues surrounding 'data mining and or psychological manipulation'.
What strikes me is that many of the complaints being surfaced may apply to what was commonly referred to as market research which informed how goods, services and even messages to target groups were tailored.
What is different is that public social networks are harvesting personal profiles in the background and selling the information to third parties...…..the question then becomes are they really in breach of any undertaking with those who choose to use their sites and expose themselves.
Low tech= market research
High tech= data mining?

It's just PNM making noise about nutting.

[VexXx Dogg]

I am still trying to understand all the issues surrounding 'data mining and or psychological manipulation'.
What strikes me is that many of the complaints being surfaced may apply to what was commonly referred to as market research which informed how goods, services and even messages to target groups were tailored.
What is different is that public social networks are harvesting personal profiles in the background and selling the information to third parties...…..the question then becomes are they really in breach of any undertaking with those who choose to use their sites and expose themselves.
Low tech= market research
High tech= data mining?

I think the issue with FB and CA was the data abuse, but the users are not blameless. They didn't read the fine print.

CA was able to harvest the personal data from users (..and the users' connections!!!) thru an app.
They then used that data for xyzabc. If one of my frieds were dumb enough to use the app, they gave away my info.

It's basically fruit of the poisoned tree - which is my synopsis of the issue.

Nothing wrong with data mining, trend analysis and consumer influence (isn't that basic marketing?).

[hydroep]

‘Different political beast’
Cudjoe on Cambridge Analytica:
Kinnesha George

Tobago West MP Shamfa Cudjoe on Tuesday encouraged supporters to watch the Netflix documentary The Great Hack, which, she said, urged Africans to stay away from the polls.

Addressing the PNM's Tobago West constituency conference at the Lowlands Multipurpose Facility, Cudjoe said it was important for every PNMmite to get the chance to see the documentary.

"If you don’t have the time to watch it in your homes, I think that we need to organise a movie night. We have to sit down as PNM people and watch that from beginning to end, because it goes all the way back to 2010. That is all our business. That is our business, we need to understand what this Cambridge Analytica issue is all about because we’re living in different times, different trends, different strategies and different political beasts.”

Cudjoe claimed the aim of Cambridge Analytica was to suppress not just the voters but African voters.“Who wants to say I’m racist, I’m calling it as it is.

“Even right now it is still at work. They’re creating fake profiles, there are nameless, faceless people on the internet in thousands –not in hundreds, in thousands – to ill-speak the PNM and cause you not to go out there and vote, because they know you’re not going out there to vote for the UNC."

Cambridge Analytica was a British company which took data from social media for use in politcal campaigns on behalf of parties in several countries. It declared bankruptcy last year. It was set up in 2013 and was a subsidiary of a company called SCL.

Cudjoe said: "Just to make you sour, to make you feel the PNM is not doing anything for you – that politics is a nasty thing. They were actually saying, 'Don’t go to the polls,' but if you don’t go, and Vashti somewhere down in Siparia goes, your vote is not counted because you didn’t vote, she going out there and vote for Kamla, and all their people going out there and vote for them, while we home upset,”She urged her hearers to use their right to vote, saying, "People fought and died for that, people fought and died for democracy. There are people all over the world in certain countries that wish to taste democracy and we have it right here. Make me and my household en vote – that’s not happening in my household. You have to ensure that your household votes."

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/08/02/d/

[De Dragon]

More dog whistles than a J'ouvert band. Forgive me if I don't follow the advice of an arrogant, dinosaur looking clown, who cannot operate a cellular 'phone.

[rspann]

So Vashti could only vote for UNC? Vashti can't vote PNM?

[rspann]

Do so campaign wasn't about staying away. It was about not voting pnm. Tell them no. It was meant to be an affirmative action. Shamfa twisting it around.

[zoom rader]

‘Different political beast’
Cudjoe on Cambridge Analytica:
Kinnesha George

Tobago West MP Shamfa Cudjoe on Tuesday encouraged supporters to watch the Netflix documentary The Great Hack, which, she said, urged Africans to stay away from the polls.

Addressing the PNM's Tobago West constituency conference at the Lowlands Multipurpose Facility, Cudjoe said it was important for every PNMmite to get the chance to see the documentary.

"If you don’t have the time to watch it in your homes, I think that we need to organise a movie night. We have to sit down as PNM people and watch that from beginning to end, because it goes all the way back to 2010. That is all our business. That is our business, we need to understand what this Cambridge Analytica issue is all about because we’re living in different times, different trends, different strategies and different political beasts.”

Cudjoe claimed the aim of Cambridge Analytica was to suppress not just the voters but African voters.“Who wants to say I’m racist, I’m calling it as it is.

“Even right now it is still at work. They’re creating fake profiles, there are nameless, faceless people on the internet in thousands –not in hundreds, in thousands – to ill-speak the PNM and cause you not to go out there and vote, because they know you’re not going out there to vote for the UNC."

Cambridge Analytica was a British company which took data from social media for use in politcal campaigns on behalf of parties in several countries. It declared bankruptcy last year. It was set up in 2013 and was a subsidiary of a company called SCL.

Cudjoe said: "Just to make you sour, to make you feel the PNM is not doing anything for you – that politics is a nasty thing. They were actually saying, 'Don’t go to the polls,' but if you don’t go, and Vashti somewhere down in Siparia goes, your vote is not counted because you didn’t vote, she going out there and vote for Kamla, and all their people going out there and vote for them, while we home upset,”She urged her hearers to use their right to vote, saying, "People fought and died for that, people fought and died for democracy. There are people all over the world in certain countries that wish to taste democracy and we have it right here. Make me and my household en vote – that’s not happening in my household. You have to ensure that your household votes."

https://newsday.co.tt/2019/08/02/d/

Vashti seems smart.

PNM ppl don't need anyone to tell them not to vote . They just lazy.


The mods on here may ban me for using racial undertones

[Redman]

Do so campaign wasn't about staying away. It was about not voting pnm. Tell them no. It was meant to be an affirmative action. Shamfa twisting it around.

It also had nothing to do with CA....based on the live press coverage of the 1st time Percy Do So to Manning.
And the coverage since.

Why should Cudjoe waste a good lie...they will feign ignorance and run with it since its what the Nix guy said in his sales pitch.

[rspann]

Sheep ( be it yellow , red or Rose colored ) have implicit trust in their shepherd.

[16 cycles]

What's been the voter turn out in Tobago for last few elections?

[2WNBoost]

Wrong title, should read: "Cambridge Analytica/CLS was funded by the UNC and made the "Do So" campaign go viral to get the UNC elected?"

"Do so! Don't vote."

[zoom rader]

What's been the voter turn out in Tobago for last few elections?

Plenty injun in bago to vote non PNM


Hope this is not using racial undertones

[toyolink]

I wonder what more dangerous, ads that attract people to consume alcohol, ads that encourage kids to eat junk foods, ads that invite people to change their cell phones every year, or ads that invite people to vote or not to vote.
Massa even used the bible to discourage rebellion from slavery by promising a better life in the hereafter.

[zoom rader]

I wonder what more dangerous, ads that attract people to consume alcohol, ads that encourage kids to eat junk foods, ads that invite people to change their cell phones every year, or ads that invite people to vote or not to vote.
Massa even used the bible to discourage rebellion from slavery by promising a better life in the hereafter.

Voting PNM is safer for 1%

[2WNBoost]

Title edit: Cambridge Analytica/CLS was funded by the UNC and made the "Do So" campaign go viral to get the UNC elected?

I wonder what more dangerous, ads that attract people to consume alcohol, ads that encourage kids to eat junk foods, ads that invite people to change their cell phones every year, or ads that invite people to vote or not to vote.
Massa even used the bible to discourage rebellion from slavery by promising a better life in the hereafter.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/courtstroud/2018/04/30/cambridge-analytica-the-turning-point-in-the-crisis-about-big-data/#12a151c248ec

Here’s how Cambridge Analytica changed the rules.

Under the old data model, users agreed to give up certain information about themselves in exchange for free access to internet content, with the understanding that the data would be used only to better target advertising to them.

Cambridge Analytica flipped that idea on its head.

The firm saw how it could put user data to work to mislead consumers, be it about products, candidates, political ideas—using big data to wage propaganda campaigns in which truth played no role.

Its founding premise: If you gathered enough data on a person, you could then develop a personality profile—likes, dislikes, views on various social issues— and from that profile you could then test words and phrases to see what reactions they generated. Words and phrases that drew strong reactions became the hot buttons in campaign messages. If you flooded the internet with enough such messages, you could change the outcome of an election."

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/cambridge-analytica-and-the-perils-of-psychographics

“Using psychographic targeting, we reached Facebook audiences with significantly different views on surveillance and demonstrated how targeting . . . affected return on marketing investment.” Psychological messaging, they said, worked.

Facebook has come to this conclusion, too. As Cook County’s lawsuit points out, Facebook has undertaken a number of research projects—without the consent of its users—aimed at understanding how the platform might be used to influence user behavior. Most famously, there was its mood-control experiment, published in Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, in 2014, in which the company manipulated its news feed so that seven hundred thousand of its users saw primarily positive or primarily negative content. The goal was to find out if “emotional states can be transferred to others via emotional contagion, leading people to experience the same emotions without their awareness.” The company found that they could. Even more germane, in 2010, Facebook successfully showed that it could influence voter turnout. These were not purely academic inquiries. The Cook County lawsuit also points out that Facebook is more valuable to both its business and political clients if it can demonstrate that it can be used “to manipulate its users into making decisions that they want them to make.”

You could always choose this

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[SMc]

Will KFC still serve up crispy chickens after all this is sorted? to be honest nothing else really matters

[rspann]

Bodi prices more important though.

[zoom rader]

Bodi prices more important though.

Yeah but Bodi is an injun food


Hope I don't get ban as my statement may be viewed as inciting racial undertones

[2WNBoost]

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[hydroep]

All of this raises the question: "To what extent are we our own person?"

Clearly for certain demographics that eh so, and worse for the next generation...

[zoom rader]

All of this raises the question: "To what extent are we our own person?"

Clearly for certain demographics that eh so, and worse for the next generation...

Most stupid people can't think on their own.