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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby rspann » February 14th, 2019, 9:16 pm

sMASH wrote:It's to disoreint, put them off guard, fluster, hopefully get them to slip and say something selacious, click baity.

It's a tactic for these talk shows. Fazeer does the same thing.

GG, Pea and bakr, could hold their own very well against that tactic.

Main ting to remember, is when ur going on those shows, u not going to talk about what u want to talk about, but ur going into a trap, if u answer the questions as if they are legitimate questions.

They try to lead u into say something according to what they want to say.



If you know the old goat well, you would know that nobody leads him, he chooses what he says verrry carefully. Also ,listen for subliminal messages.

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2019, 9:48 pm

the man so good, they want to twist his words, and his innuendo still hidden enough that they could not use it, yet obvious enough that u know what he saying...
'who going to bring change to the country?'
'good men will rise to the challenge, as they always had in the past'

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby rspann » February 14th, 2019, 10:13 pm

He gave me a CD of the sermon that led to his charge for sedition. He asked me if I heard any thing seditious about it. Dog, the man good, he was only asking questions, he never say anything directly.

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby Zetski » February 14th, 2019, 10:24 pm

inb4 d men who think hema iza bess thing

also bakr in thing so he go know thing

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby matr1x » February 15th, 2019, 3:21 am

Wherever the "religion of peace " goes...there is brutality and death. Look at African conflict right now....middle east, the attacks in Europe, far east. Would you say nazis are bad based in the actions of some.

No, no..the soy boys on this forum are the sort that would have let bakr do what he wanted in 1990.

Islam core ideology is convert or die. So go duck and egg.


Bakr and his lot should have swung. But our president seemed to have allegiance to pardon.

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby VexXx Dogg » February 15th, 2019, 8:48 am

sMASH wrote:It's to disoreint, put them off guard, fluster, hopefully get them to slip and say something selacious, click baity.

It's a tactic for these talk shows. Fazeer does the same thing.

GG, Pea and bakr, could hold their own very well against that tactic.

Main ting to remember, is when ur going on those shows, u not going to talk about what u want to talk about, but ur going into a trap, if u answer the questions as if they are legitimate questions.

They try to lead u into say something according to what they want to say.


exactly, it's a good tactic to bring out information rather than sticking to a deadass pseudoscripted convo.

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby The_Honourable » March 3rd, 2019, 1:01 am

BBC News Stories

Yasin Abu Bakr: Revolutionary, holy man or 'dispute resolver'?

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Depending on who you ask in Trinidad, Yasin Abu Bakr is either a respected religious leader, a tireless community worker, or something more akin to a Mafia godfather. Waiting for an audience with him at his mosque in Trinidad's capital, Port of Spain, Colin Freeman starts to wonder if he might be a bit of all three.

It's just after prayers on a Friday lunchtime, and, as ever, there's a queue of folk who've come to seek his help.

Many of them want counsel on spiritual matters or marriage guidance. Sometimes, though, he gets asked for help in retrieving a stolen car, settling a debt, or resolving feuds between gang members in Trinidad's crime-ridden slums.

"Alternative dispute resolution," he tells me.

Whoever he is, Abu Bakr doesn't do things by halves. A former policeman, he became one of Trinidad's first Muslim converts back in 1969, when an Egyptian preacher visited the island. Abu Bakr found Islam more attractive than Christianity, a religion he always associated with his country's past as a slave colony. He wasn't content, though, just to sit reading the Koran.

From the 1970s onwards, he spent years in Libya as a guest of Col Gaddafi, who back then was encouraging Muslim activists worldwide. He then returned home, and built up his own organisation, Jamaat-al-Muslimeen, or Party of Muslims.

In Trinidad's ghettos, it gained a following for cleaning the streets of drug dealers. Some of his converts were tough ex-cons themselves, and in neighbourhoods where police feared to tread, his "generals", as he describes them, commanded respect.

The Trinidadian government, however, did not like the idea of a parallel authority, and after a series of run-ins, Abu Bakr feared they were planning to crush the Jamaat altogether. His response, extraordinarily, was to try to crush them first.

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Yasin Abu Bakr at the time of the coup, in 1990

In 1990, 100 of his armed followers stormed parliament, taking the prime minister hostage and declaring the overthrow of the government. It was the only Islamist coup ever attempted in the Western hemisphere. He surrendered six days later after being offered amnesty, and spent two years in jail.

Since then he's been committed to peaceful politics, he says. Members of his organisation, though, have been accused of Mafia-like activities - and Abu Bakr himself has been charged with, but then acquitted of, murder and extortion. More recently, there's been concern about the 100-odd Trinidadians who've gone to join Isis in Syria - a lot for a nation of just 1.3 million people.

Abu Bakr, who's polite and chatty in interviews, admits that the Jamaat has attracted the odd bad apple over the years. That's an occupational hazard of trying to reach out to wayward souls in tough neighbourhoods, he says. But he insists he'd never encourage anyone to join Isis.

"We told all our followers not to go, the whole Isis thing is utter nonsense," he tells me.

What Abu Bakr is more concerned about isn't the war in Syria, but the battles on the streets of Trinidad. Last year, the country saw 500 murders - more than four times as many as 20 years ago. Most are related to gang feuds in the slums, from where the Jamaat draws many of its followers.

"Generally, the gangs still respect us," says Abu Bakr. "But these days, if we tried to police them directly, the state would come down on us like a ton of bricks. So instead we have two to three murders daily - things are getting really bad now. We can't just sit and let it happen."

He won't, it seems, be attempting another coup. But the Jamaat's diagnosis of Trinidad's problems could be that of any socially conservative Trinidadian. They don't just blame poverty. They blame family breakdown, indiscipline and criminal lifestyles promoted by violent gangsta rap.

"People need proper heroes rather than rap artists or misguided musicians," says David "Buffy" Maillard, another Jamaat member. "Some music tracks can lead people into killing as much as any gun."

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Maillard is well-qualified to comment. A former criminal himself, he once worked for a Jamaican gang involved in the cocaine trade in Miami. Not merely selling the stuff, but robbing other dealers. It was, to put it mildly, a high-risk occupation, which saw him shot three times, stabbed five times and serve several stints in prison.

Now reformed, he warns today that gangsterism is a much bigger threat to Trinidad than Isis. "The gangster ideology is entrenched here," he says. "You can never match the income people get from drug dealing, so you have to give them self-esteem instead. My choice was Islam. But there're other options too."

Are there though?

In Sea Lots, a slum that now claims to be shedding its gang-ridden past, one community leader told me it was still hard for youngsters to get jobs because of the area's old reputation.

As long as that's the case, I suspect Trinidad's crime problems will remain. And yes, there'll still be folk queuing to see Abu Bakr every Friday.

Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-47419535

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Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby MaxPower » March 3rd, 2019, 7:25 am

I wish the worst death for Abu Bakr.

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » March 3rd, 2019, 7:29 am

Still don't know how a man could overthrow a country and shoot the Prime Minister in the @ss then get paid for it and rewarded with land and money and also walk free. lol only in Trinidad

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby matr1x » March 3rd, 2019, 12:49 pm

Who was the president in 1990? That will answer your question?

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby bluefete » March 3rd, 2019, 6:24 pm

Noor Hassanali was the president in 1990.

However, he was not the one who signed the amnesty. It was acting President Emmanuel Carter.

The brightest lawyers in T&T told Carter that the amnesty would not be valid because it was issued under duress. We all know how that went.

Hassanali was on vacation in the UK when the coup started.

matr1x wrote:Who was the president in 1990? That will answer your question?

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby pugboy » March 3rd, 2019, 6:36 pm

That bright legal mind is one of the jefe at Caribbean criminal court now
Don’t forget though
Justice brooks coulda choose to lose them case
If he had some balls
Because the privy council did rule against them many years later but too little too late

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby matr1x » March 3rd, 2019, 8:20 pm

Fellow muslims looking out for each other. He should have swung from a slab of pork

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby RedVEVO » March 3rd, 2019, 11:34 pm

Yesterday pick up my costume at Tribe in St Anns.

Abu was in front .

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby matr1x » March 4th, 2019, 12:05 am

During the 2007 election, alleged the muslimeen were terrorizing people who went to vote

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby The_Honourable » June 9th, 2019, 9:59 pm

So the video below happened back in 2014. Story here: https://guardian.co.tt/news/abu-bakr-se ... 9b8d8afecc



5 years later, the video was resurrected and circulated recently during eid as police raided a mosque: http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/8-arrest ... 984543c837

Sergeant Thompson thought Abu Bakr's comments was about this recent incident and calls Abu to draw first blood...


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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby sMASH » June 9th, 2019, 10:45 pm

more balls than brains. only use the badge to intimidate. cant even make a case if u give him 23, and i jess to find one more.

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby timelapse » June 10th, 2019, 9:21 am

Abu's comments may have been about the influx of Venezuelans crashing our economy and with the sudden influx. De man is Nostradamus ...

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby matr1x » June 10th, 2019, 9:31 am

Its going to boil down to Abu gangs vs vene gangs

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Re: Abu Bakr: There will be major changes in the country soon

Postby zoom rader » June 10th, 2019, 10:00 am

timelapse wrote:Abu's comments may have been about the influx of Venezuelans crashing our economy and with the sudden influx. De man is Nostradamus ...
Kinda but it's more that our black population will be a minority in years to come.

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Bakr: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby Gladiator » September 11th, 2021, 1:16 am

Abu Bakr issues last 'warning' to Govt but cops ready for any 'eventualities'

Jamaat Al Muslimeen leader Imam Yasin Abu Bakr has issued a “warning” to the Government and the Trinidad and Tobago Police Service (TTPS), calling for justice in T&T.

But in an immediate response, acting Commissioner of Police McDonald Jacob said the Police Service stands ready to protect citizens against any eventualities.

In a live broadcast on Facebook, Bakr spoke for over an hour, detailing what he sees as a number of injustices towards people of African descent.

“In Trinidad, don’t fix the society, don’t give to the poor what is their due, don’t start to be fair and just, don’t let go the prisoners who you locking up for 15 years without a trial, don’t do that and you will see what will happen- remember I warn you today,” Bakr said.

He said there would be no more warnings issued.

“I warning the Government of Trinidad and Tobago, I warning the Police, I warning the Coast Guard, I warning everybody who is involved in the repression, the oppression of African people, I warning you today, this is your last day warning,” he said.

He spoke about injustices towards African children in the Secondary Entrance Assessment (SEA) examinations and labelled their parents as “wicked” saying the parents have allowed the injustice to continue.

He also spoke about injustice in the prison system, saying there were men incarcerated for over 15 years without a trial.

He also sent out a warning, saying anyone who kills Muslims in T&T will not escape.

Bakr said he knows how to "stand up" and rely on the power of Allah for his cause.

Responding to Abu Bakr's speech, which has been making the rounds on social media, the Acting Commissioner says the police service continues to monitor intelligence and will act accordingly. Acting Commissioner Jacob says, "there are much more resources available to the various law enforcement agencies now than in 1990."

Jacob goes on to urge citizens to continue adhering to the public health regulations reminding them that COVID-19 is the only enemy.

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby hustla_ambition101 » September 11th, 2021, 1:52 am

This time Abu will not hold the country to ransom.......he and his minions will be dealt with

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby daring dragoon » September 11th, 2021, 3:24 am

He put a target on muslims backs. we done suffering from covid, world economic crash, rise in hardship and now he want to have police target muslim business with raids and search for weapons of mass destruction. muslim places of worship, muslim business and muslim business owners homes, all will come under scrutiny and monitoring. more stress in we kant now.

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby Chimera » September 11th, 2021, 6:34 am

Lol he feel is like long time. Gary will deal with that in a few hours if they jump out

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby hover11 » September 11th, 2021, 7:02 am

He not doing anything just looking for attention why warn when you could just do it unexpectedly like 1990

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby timelapse » September 11th, 2021, 7:03 am

Deputise me.Last time around I wished I was old enough to shoot his MC

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby j.o.e » September 11th, 2021, 8:29 am

A coup now wouldn’t last 5 minutes and Abu wouldn’t be taken alive this time

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby Penguin » September 11th, 2021, 8:54 am

Empty threat

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby sam1978 » September 11th, 2021, 9:04 am

He said it would be his last warning but he didn’t issue any threats. He’s just giving them advice maybe.

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Re: Warning Issued to Govt

Postby VexXx Dogg » September 11th, 2021, 9:53 am

He’ll also be wilding his overzealous flock, and those on the fringe. Of course he can’t be held accountable for actions committed by individuals

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