Would you eat slaughter-free meat?

[rspann]

How they halaling it?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

How they halaling it?

was wondering this too.
I think once the process is kosher and halal and no haram products are used like alcohol or fermentation etc in manufacturing it, then it should be kosher or halal.
But that's really for the religious leaders to decide - would be interesting to hear what their take on it is.

[skylinechild]

isnt halal they prayers they say to give thanks to allah before they slaughter the animal..??

how can you kill something that wasnt "alive" in the first place ???

i dunno...i jus askin..

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

isnt halal they prayers they say to give thanks to allah before they slaughter the animal..??

how can you kill something that wasnt "alive" in the first place ???

i dunno...i jus askin..

as far as I know halal means fit for consumption / permissible.
e.g. wine is not halal but grapes are.

gummy bears are not halal if they are made with non-halal gelatin

[skylinechild]

isnt halal they prayers they say to give thanks to allah before they slaughter the animal..??

how can you kill something that wasnt "alive" in the first place ???

i dunno...i jus askin..

as far as I know halal means fit for consumption / permissible.
e.g. wine is not halal but grapes are.

gummy bears are not halal if they are made with non-halal gelatin

you sure.??
we hadda find out the exact meaning of the word and the terminology....and see how it would apply to non slaughter meat

[16 cycles]

So this like egg??

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

isnt halal they prayers they say to give thanks to allah before they slaughter the animal..??

how can you kill something that wasnt "alive" in the first place ???

i dunno...i jus askin..

as far as I know halal means fit for consumption / permissible.
e.g. wine is not halal but grapes are.

gummy bears are not halal if they are made with non-halal gelatin

you sure.??
we hadda find out the exact meaning of the word and the terminology....and see how it would apply to non slaughter meat

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halal
See also section under GMO

[carluva]

Halal means permissable. Haram means not permissable. The only way a muslim will eat meat is if it is permissable to eat. So, to make the meat permissable, the animal needs to be killed in a particular manner... prayer said, throat slit, blood drained. With this type of slaughter, the meat is considered Halal. If hunting, the prayer can be said before the shot is taken, but as soon as the animal is felled, it must then be prepared as described previously.

For this reason, there is some debate about slaughtering of chicken using the electric shock.... even though the prayer is said, some argue that the chicken was not drained of blood immediately after and then its not considered Halal.

Duane is right as well... products that contain pig gelatin is Not Halal, its Haram, simply because consumption of pig is forbidden in islam. So thats why many sweets like gummy bears is often considered Haram, whereas sweets from KC are considered Halal, as they use cow gelatin or other non pig gelatins.

So, in relation to the topic, this new meat would have to be deemed Halal by the clerics, but even if it was, I'm doubtful I'd eat it still.

[K74T]

Harambe > Halalbe

[hassanvoyeau]

Hope you're not one to still buy veggie drumstick, veggie shrimp and all da sheit.

(1) I am very impressed by the behavior of the vegan community, and it is no way (in the main) like some comments I am seeing.

(2) The animals who are fighting for love and survival don't care about our disposition. If "weird" saves them then so be it.

(3) Check out my food blog - https://foodie.hassantt.com/ - pretty ordinary stuff just no animal pieces.

[maj. tom]

I have some questions you probably never considered, and please note that this is not a personal argument directed at you or your beliefs and practices.

How do you ensure that 14-15% of your diet is protein when you're a vegetarian, without hitting excess carbohydrates and fat to attain that percent? This is the required satiation level of protein that we have determined in dietary experiments, as well as observed in traditional diets across most cultures in the world. When that number changes, we observe dietary epidemics, like in the Western World today, where the average meal is now 12% protein, and fast food 10%, which has lead to a long term obesity crisis because of excessive calorie intake in an attempt for our bodies to reach the 15% protein goal.

Before you start quoting beans and soya as a protein source, legumes are a really bad source of protein, not because they have only about 13% protein by mass, but because they have about 65% by mass carbohydrate. Therefore you would see that in order to hit your daily protein goal you would be excessive on the daily carb intake. Thus you would have to use artificially processed sources of protein that requires a lot of energy and wastes the majority of the food source that it is extracted from. Once something is artificially processed, you loose the health benefit argument, because you really have no idea what they add to or do to this food to now make it palatable, or understand the effects such a food will have on the human body long term.

But that's only where the rabbit hole starts. Long term effects to study: what are the consequences of humans not getting the required daily protein intake to function optimally, or what are the consequences to attempting to hit the protein goal on vegetarianism diet? What are the consequences for the lean body mass % for genetically lean people who do not get enough protein?

I certainly know at least, that in human evolution, if we had stuck to foraging the trees instead of learning to hunt, make fire and access bone marrow, we would still be in the trees. The human brain requires a constant and reliable source of energy at all times; it does not rest even while asleep. The brain consumes the most energy compared to any other organ. It would use any source of energy it can find, from simple sugars to complex amino acids and ketones, it doesn't care. We were only able to take that leap in brain evolution when that meat and fat from animals provided the excess energy beyond the required baseline to merely survive. And our brains are what separates us from the other mammals.

So while the morality of vegetarianism is a good and noble argument, morality has nothing to do with how we evolved, or the requirements that humans generally have to be optimally healthy. We are only 72 hours as far away from a reliable food source as the hunting troupe of chimpanzees in the jungles that hunt monkeys in order to satisfy their protein goal.

[hassanvoyeau]

I have forwarded your concerns to Peta. At first glance it seems alarmist and silly but I will let the experts respond.

[maj. tom]

Ok, well I wrote all that because I honestly thought you would be able to understand it and start digging more into the actual science of nutrition. I guess I was wrong, because I didn't expect the cynical reply and outtake.
Thanks for your time.

[Coppershot]

https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/
Browse by topic. Contains video, scientific sources, citations. Science based approach to nutrition.

E.g.
Protein
https://nutritionfacts.org/topics/protein/