Take Note: GATE - September 2017

[Monkey Man]

gate was a terrible, mismanaged idea in the first place.

if is one of the MAJOR contributing factors of the current state of the job market in Trinidad today.

i Nuh against making education accessible to less fortunate but when yuh want to provide free tertiary education, and there are persons that are unable to attain primary/secondary education or are without food, water, electricity or even roads in the SAME country... the idea seems out of place.

[racedriverpro]

gate was a terrible, mismanaged idea in the first place.

if is one of the MAJOR contributing factors of the current state of the job market in Trinidad today.

i Nuh against making education accessible to less fortunate but when yuh want to provide free tertiary education, and there are persons that are unable to attain primary/secondary education or are without food, water, electricity or even roads in the SAME country... the idea seems out of place.

Gate is like monkey swinging on tree

[Redress10]

Also: Makesi Peters - President - UWI Student Guild - wanted GATE funding cut for private tertiary institutions and he got it.

"Jun 28, 2016 - UWI Guild President Makesi Peters says government should cut the Government ... "We have these private institutions that are sometimes putting in for GATE and ... getting students and just giving them courses and then graduating ."

Unfortunately, this was from a CTNT clip which is no longer on the internet.

ctntworld.com/.../index.php?...uwi-guild-president...gate...private-institutions

What business is it of his as UWI Guild President to dictate how government funds should be spent or that only UWI students should have access to GATE? These people truly do not know their roles and functions. He needs to focus on the needs of the students that he represents. He has no business meddling in other institutions. UWI isn't the only institution deserving of funding. Steupss....Not everyone would want to go UWI or would be capable of being accepted at UWI. UWI as an institution and university is seriously lacking and underdeveloped.

[Monk BANzai]

University of the Southern Caribbean (USC)

This is funny...I wonder if Govt still does due-diligence on schools anymore? USC has mishandled gate to the tune of $10million in the past (include that to their $120 million debt) and you go and approve the school for MORE Gate?

[zoom rader]

Kamala fault dem is responsible for this. Nasty UNC ppl

[agent007]

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[bluefete]

Agent007: All of the institutions you mentioned above are NOT accredited by ACTT.

Thus they will NOT be able to access GATE from September 2017.

Again, ONLY the 12 institutions accredited by ACTT will be eligible for GATE from September 2017.

[bluefete]

University of the Southern Caribbean (USC)

This is funny...I wonder if Govt still does due-diligence on schools anymore? USC has mishandled gate to the tune of $10million in the past (include that to their $120 million debt) and you go and approve the school for MORE Gate?

My thoughts exactly. I could never understand how USC became a favoured son of past and present governments.

Especially as they are an American institution. But then what do I know.

[bluefete]

Kamala fault dem is responsible for this. Nasty UNC ppl

First true thing I see you write in a while.

Ask Fazal Karim how 3 theological schools got accredited by ACTT, on his say so. when he was tertiary education minister.

[agent007]

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[zoom rader]

Kamala fault dem is responsible for this. Nasty UNC ppl

First true thing I see you write in a while.

Ask Fazal Karim how 3 theological schools got accredited by ACTT, on his say so. when he was tertiary education minister.

Glad that you don't understand

[Joshie23]

Hi bluefete I understand that but what does this ultimately mean for the school and their students? Is it that the courses offered by the school will no longer be recognized by the ACTT? If so then what does it mean for someone who has a non accredited degree in terms of employability? Am I taking this too far or misreading this thing because I've got so much more questions

Ditto, also what about someone who was previously under GATE coverage in one of the 'removed' schools with one year left in their programme?

[racedriverpro]

He, Karim, accepted Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior...i though this was obvious.

[Monk BANzai]

They are not American. They are Caribbean. They are run by a board elected by the Caribbean Union of Seventh Day Adventist (located in rookery nook in Maraval). What they've touted for many years was the affiliate of Andrews University. So many of the degrees you got was from Andrews. Then all that changed And with the re brand to USC from CUC (Caribbean Union College), thru got certified by ACTT and started giving their own degrees.

It was during this time that they mismanaged Gate (well to be fair, Gate was introduced after they become USC). The only program that ws Andrews run is the Masters program. But there is talks afoot of USC returning to a full Andrews affiliate.

USC is bleeding more than UWI. Both need to be run by business men. Not scholars.

[VexXx Dogg]

They are not American. They are Caribbean. They are run by a board elected by the Caribbean Union of Seventh Day Adventist (located in rookery nook in Maraval). What they've touted for many years was the affiliate of Andrews University. So many of the degrees you got was from Andrews. Then all that changed And with the re brand to USC from CUC (Caribbean Union College), thru got certified by ACTT and started giving their own degrees.

It was during this time that they mismanaged Gate (well to be fair, Gate was introduced after they become USC). The only program that ws Andrews run is the Masters program. But there is talks afoot of USC returning to a full Andrews affiliate.

USC is bleeding more than UWI. Both need to be run by business men. Not scholars.

If UWI was run as a business, then no-one would be able to afford higher education. UWI degrees are dirt cheap, even without GATE. Compare most programmes with the international market and you'll see.

So degree costs will go up and student enrolment will go down. UWI needs to straddle the fine line between business-like efficiency and meeting the education needs of the wider caribbean. Easier said than done.

[rspann]

They are not American. They are Caribbean. They are run by a board elected by the Caribbean Union of Seventh Day Adventist (located in rookery nook in Maraval). What they've touted for many years was the affiliate of Andrews University. So many of the degrees you got was from Andrews. Then all that changed And with the re brand to USC from CUC (Caribbean Union College), thru got certified by ACTT and started giving their own degrees.

It was during this time that they mismanaged Gate (well to be fair, Gate was introduced after they become USC). The only program that ws Andrews run is the Masters program. But there is talks afoot of USC returning to a full Andrews affiliate.

USC is bleeding more than UWI. Both need to be run by business men. Not scholars.

Especially Adventist scholars.

[bluefete]

Hi bluefete I understand that but what does this ultimately mean for the school and their students? Is it that the courses offered by the school will no longer be recognized by the ACTT? If so then what does it mean for someone who has a non accredited degree in terms of employability? Am I taking this too far or misreading this thing because I've got so much more questions

It does not matter.

Once a LOCAL tertiary provider (not the actual programme, eh) is NOT accredited by ACTT, no GATE for that institution from September 2017.

For employability, I do not think the accreditation will matter too much. A degree from the University of London carries far greater weight, globally, than a degree from UWI or UTT.

Ask away your questions.

[sMASH]

pirali gonna be tripping

Finally they get rid of that swindler. Theifing poor people money

[bluefete]

USC ... certified by ACTT and started giving their own degrees.

This is an important point for private tertiary schools.

To get institutional accreditation from ACTT, the SBCS / SAMS's / UWI-ROYTEC's must develop their own local degree programmes.

That takes a very, very long time.

I still do not know how those theology schools got through, though.

[bluefete]

pirali gonna be tripping

Finally they get rid of that swindler. Theifing poor people money

Pirali has more lives than a cat.

[sMASH]

Once poor people stay away from him, he could do what he want.

[pugboy]

Many students there liming most of the time though, what do u expect with schools with little or no entry requirements
They having a good time

[Monk BANzai]

They are not American. They are Caribbean. They are run by a board elected by the Caribbean Union of Seventh Day Adventist (located in rookery nook in Maraval). What they've touted for many years was the affiliate of Andrews University. So many of the degrees you got was from Andrews. Then all that changed And with the re brand to USC from CUC (Caribbean Union College), thru got certified by ACTT and started giving their own degrees.

It was during this time that they mismanaged Gate (well to be fair, Gate was introduced after they become USC). The only program that ws Andrews run is the Masters program. But there is talks afoot of USC returning to a full Andrews affiliate.

USC is bleeding more than UWI. Both need to be run by business men. Not scholars.

If UWI was run as a business, then no-one would be able to afford higher education. UWI degrees are dirt cheap, even without GATE. Compare most programmes with the international market and you'll see.

So degree costs will go up and student enrolment will go down. UWI needs to straddle the fine line between business-like efficiency and meeting the education needs of the wider caribbean. Easier said than done.

i've argued this point VexXx for years...The big boys: Standford, Yale, Berkeley etc have departments that are dedicated to the investment portfolio of these institutions. So their job is to invest and find investment for the school. They fully understand the diversification of leadership. Many a time they go unheard and unnoticed: and rightly so. Their job is to find money for school outside of enrollments.

Here in the Caribbean? Chanellors and College Presidents reside over the Institutions Finances directly....

[Monk BANzai]

USC ... certified by ACTT and started giving their own degrees.

This is an important point for private tertiary schools.

To get institutional accreditation from ACTT, the SBCS / SAMS's / UWI-ROYTEC's must develop their own local degree programmes.

That takes a very, very long time.

I still do not know how those theology schools got through, though.

simple...what you basing the Theology Degrees against? lol. And most of these Seminaries get accreditation based on their Religion curriculum.

Piralli tho.. has been urging ppl to sign up for his courses before September... on W107 and 98.1 The Promise he's been hitting that campaign trial hard to get sign-ups before Gate runs out for him...

[bluefete]

Piralli tho.. has been urging ppl to sign up for his courses before September... on W107 and 98.1 The Promise he's been hitting that campaign trial hard to get sign-ups before Gate runs out for him...

He actually moved up his September semester to May / July to get the last of the GATE money.

[bluefete]

i've argued this point VexXx for years...The big boys: Standford, Yale, Berkeley etc have departments that are dedicated to the investment portfolio of these institutions. So their job is to invest and find investment for the school. They fully understand the diversification of leadership. Many a time they go unheard and unnoticed: and rightly so. Their job is to find money for school outside of enrollments.

Here in the Caribbean? Chancellors and College Presidents reside over the Institutions Finances directly....

Endowments and fund-raising are how universities make money away.

In the Caribbean, they wait for government funding. So they do not feel the need to aggressively fund-raise. UWI does have its carnival all-inclusive though.

[Gladiator]

i've argued this point VexXx for years...The big boys: Standford, Yale, Berkeley etc have departments that are dedicated to the investment portfolio of these institutions. So their job is to invest and find investment for the school. They fully understand the diversification of leadership. Many a time they go unheard and unnoticed: and rightly so. Their job is to find money for school outside of enrollments.

Here in the Caribbean? Chancellors and College Presidents reside over the Institutions Finances directly....

Endowments and fund-raising are how universities make money away.

In the Caribbean, they wait for government funding. So they do not feel the need to aggressively fund-raise. UWI does have its carnival all-inclusive though.

LOL bro... fundraising ... in 2017 really

Universities make money from research and public private partnerships. The US universities are the hub for new tech, ideas and innovation. Big corporations pay for that... fundraising.... come on nah man... LOL

[Monk BANzai]

i've argued this point VexXx for years...The big boys: Standford, Yale, Berkeley etc have departments that are dedicated to the investment portfolio of these institutions. So their job is to invest and find investment for the school. They fully understand the diversification of leadership. Many a time they go unheard and unnoticed: and rightly so. Their job is to find money for school outside of enrollments.

Here in the Caribbean? Chancellors and College Presidents reside over the Institutions Finances directly....

Endowments and fund-raising are how universities make money away.

In the Caribbean, they wait for government funding. So they do not feel the need to aggressively fund-raise. UWI does have its carnival all-inclusive though.

LOL bro... fundraising ... in 2017 really

Universities make money from research and public private partnerships. The US universities are the hub for new tech, ideas and innovation. Big corporations pay for that... fundraising.... come on nah man... LOL

And who is going to w I n the confidence of the private sector? It's figure heads? Lol.

[desifemlove]

so SBCS going bust soon? shame if it did, it's a boss institution. not sure what other revenue they does get, them CCNA and ACTT and sheit ent enough to sustain it.

[desifemlove]

Theology College? Why? Can't the Anglican Church or Catholics (cos everybody knows them too denominations with many churches worldwide and centuries of preaching are very poor, ent???) fund their own prospective deacons or priests or bishops? How does theology help the economy?

another sheit PNM idea, or half-baked at least. yes, limit GATE. Make it more strategic, but then don't provide GATE for things that don't advance the economy, unless we are becoming a theocracy and Rowley/Kamz will be grand priests or Ayatollahs.

They should allow any institution to access GATE, but only in areas of economic importance. Some oil and gas, but mostly ICT, Business Mgmt., Fashion, etc. And secure placements for ALL graduates in industry. If after five years, people wanna go overseas, let them.