Bandit gets stuck trying to break into Community Center in Diego Martin

[Slartibartfast]

Breaking in for food ?
Come nah man, there are so many ppl looking to hire honest hard working ppl to not have to break in for food.

And don't do the classic retort of asking back "what you do etc" to divert the point in typical trump/Trini style of straying from a point.

All I'm saying is I don't know his motive.

In case you missed it the first, second or third time.

[WarrLordd]

What nonsense you speaking of hearing his side of the story the amount of innocent people who does get killed on a daily bases for this entire year was mainly robbery at gun point. Do these criminals ask questions before shooting? Do they wear protection when they rape someone? Oh wait we should treat them like decent human begins and ask them why they cannot find a job? It have men out there more blacker than he is hustling selling water on the road.

[Slartibartfast]

So he must answer for all the crimes comitted by all criminals to date? Is he Jesus?

[pugboy]

No, but he shouldn't expect any favors either unfortunately
Not a case of Peter paying for Paul blindly but no favors will be granted thanks to Paul

[meccalli]

I always heard people say once your head fit through an opening your body would fit through as you can contort to suit.
Guess that's not true

Thats for cats bro

He didn't get the memo. LOL

In any case, it's the law that tries and administers justice. The police might do that before he even sees a lawyer anyways. Spare him the vigilante beating with the context of TTPS in mind.

[WarrLordd]

This is Trinidad once you walk out them court doors a free man they would do it again, how many of these so called elements have a rap sheet longer than the amount of qualification they actually have to apply for a job. What if this was his first time being caught now it ends up in his records so any business that requires a certificate of good character gone down the drain so now where does he turn to after he gets released not crime ? but right right you said he shouldn't be blamed for the margin of criminals in this country

[Gladiator]

Yes I also think it is best to stoop to the level of the criminals that we bash on a daily basis and assault him without provocation. There is absolutely no chance that the man seeing some hard times already and getting a little desperate.

And if this happened in your home, you would welcome him to your dinner table? Offer him a shower and a place in your bed? Allow him to continue doing whatever it was he went for?

Why the need for hypothetical situations to defend the immoral desires of the posters here?

It did not happen in the home of any of the individuals here (or any home for that matter of fact) and yet everyone in this thread either poking fun at the man or wishing him harm. Why is that? Take a good look at the picture again and tell me if that man looks like the embodiment of success?

My argument is that it would be better to get the facts surrounding the situation than just blindly wishing the man harm. Everyone complaining about criminals' lack of empathy but not acknowledging their own lack thereof. I am merely pointing out the hypocrisy of it all.

You living in a different world yes... if he break in your home, is level chop, shoot and lix for you until you give him all your cash and jewelry!!!

[MaxPower]

If you saw him slowly with a blunt hacksaw, he can come out easy...what are we waiting for to set these types of examples?

[Slartibartfast]

So much "if's" in everyone's arguments. What if you guys actually approached the situation in front of you with an unbiased mind.

It seems to be everyone's first reaction to approach the man as a "lost cause" because lots of criminals seem to be. I understand the appeal of that point of view because there is no need for difficult thought or for one to step off their moral high horse for a moment and remember that the criminal was born just as much a person as they were.

Like I said before and I will repeat again; I don't know the circumstances of the man's situation. The man might be a last cause or he might not. I don't know and shall therefore not treat him as such. However, the surest way to ensure someone becomes a lost cause is to treat them like one which is all allyuh highfalutin tuners seem to want to do.

But good job. Hit him a planass. Do your part to fight crime

If the tuners on this thread are any indication of how "normal" think and react then the reason why criminals so nasty these days are because they are trini. They are a subset of our society and of our society. Garbage in garbage out I'm afraid.

[pugboy]

You obviously have never caught a thief and heard the lies and excuses(facts as you say) they make,
Have personally been involved with two catches and you are one who would certainly believe their lies.

Not worth the time or safety to try and have a sit down meeting.

[Slartibartfast]

If you ever wanted to have a sit down meeting though, I would argue that would be ideal circumstances. You guaranteed to have his undivided attention.... just saying.

[Gladiator]

So much "if's" in everyone's arguments. What if you guys actually approached the situation in front of you with an unbiased mind.

It seems to be everyone's first reaction to approach the man as a "lost cause" because lots of criminals seem to be. I understand the appeal of that point of view because there is no need for difficult thought or for one to step off their moral high horse for a moment and remember that the criminal was born just as much a person as they were.

Like I said before and I will repeat again; I don't know the circumstances of the man's situation. The man might be a last cause or he might not. I don't know and shall therefore not treat him as such. However, the surest way to ensure someone becomes a lost cause is to treat them like one which is all allyuh highfalutin tuners seem to want to do.

But good job. Hit him a planass. Do your part to fight crime

If the tuners on this thread are any indication of how "normal" think and react then the reason why criminals so nasty these days are because they are trini. They are a subset of our society and of our society. Garbage in garbage out I'm afraid.

Your heart is bigger than your head... while this is admirable you may have a hard time surviving in the real world.

[pugboy]

No, in both cases they stuck to their stories and then suddenly became tongue tied when the cops arrived and greeted them as well known acquaintances lol

If you ever wanted to have a sit down meeting though, I would argue that would be ideal circumstances. You guaranteed to have his undivided attention.... just saying.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I think I understand where Slartibartfast is coming from

The Dutch prison ministry notes that it now has one of the lowest incarceration rates in Europe, with 57 out of 100,000 citizens imprisoned, second only to Finland at 54 per 100,000. Sweden's prison population fell from 5,722 in 2004 to 4,500 in 2014, and the country has also had to close some underused prisons. Experts who spoke to the Guardian in 2013 suggested that the humane and comfortable nature of Swedish prisons had led to a better chance of rehabilitation for prisoners.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-prisons/

The same quick-fix heartless "shoot now think later" approach that would-be-criminals are using to convince themselves that it is ok to rob and kill and rape, is the same we as citizens want to adopt to protect ourselves against crime. It becomes a senseless spiral without rehabilitation or reform.

[Slartibartfast]

Pugboy I was talking about the man caught in the burglar proofing. Idk what the circumstances of your other two meet ups were.

Gladiator, all I saying is I not going to beat up a helpless man without a reason. If that's all it takes to have a big heart then I guess trinis worse off than I thought.

[fouljuice]

Wow you people are really insensitive.
The poor guy was probably just looking for something, anything to cover himself up with.

[coltspeed]

Local piper jus doing his thing. No need to jail him. Christmas rite around d corner, everyone needs cheap labour. A piper is always beneficial to a community jus don't leave your stuff around careless...
Yes an hit him some tap and beat he mc still. Then throw some old engine oil on he and he will find his way out.

[abbow]

^^lol

[Slartibartfast]

I think I understand where Slartibartfast is coming from

The Dutch prison ministry notes that it now has one of the lowest incarceration rates in Europe, with 57 out of 100,000 citizens imprisoned, second only to Finland at 54 per 100,000. Sweden's prison population fell from 5,722 in 2004 to 4,500 in 2014, and the country has also had to close some underused prisons. Experts who spoke to the Guardian in 2013 suggested that the humane and comfortable nature of Swedish prisons had led to a better chance of rehabilitation for prisoners.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... y-prisons/

The same quick-fix heartless "shoot now think later" approach that would-be-criminals are using to convince themselves that it is ok to rob and kill and rape, is the same we as citizens want to adopt to protect ourselves against crime. It becomes a senseless spiral without rehabilitation or reform.

Thanks Duane. And yes, you would be surprised with the kind of feedback you get from people when you treat them as your equal and actually acknowledge them as human beings.

Obviously you can't help everyone but somebody needs to start somewhere.

[toyota2nr]

Yes I also think it is best to stoop to the level of the criminals that we bash on a daily basis and assault him without provocation. There is absolutely no chance that the man seeing some hard times already and getting a little desperate.

Seriously? You making excuse for someone committing crime? No matter how much hard times he seeing that's no reason to do what he did. I would connected a car battery to the bars or a blowtorch. People must realise that there's a consequence to crime.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Yes I also think it is best to stoop to the level of the criminals that we bash on a daily basis and assault him without provocation. There is absolutely no chance that the man seeing some hard times already and getting a little desperate.

Seriously? You making excuse for someone committing crime? No matter how much hard times he seeing that's no reason to do what he did. I would connected a car battery to the bars or a blowtorch. People must realise that there's a consequence to crime.

but two wrongs don't make a right.

[abbow]

buh wait...somebody say the man was probably hungry...why d hell break into a community center if you hungry?
i would understand if was a bakery...

Duane you are right...two wrongs dont make a right...

As i mentioned earlier...Cepep, yard work etc....he cld get a job rather than stealing.
He get caught this time. I wonder if he did similar deeds before and if this is going to be his last.

[toyota2nr]

Yes I also think it is best to stoop to the level of the criminals that we bash on a daily basis and assault him without provocation. There is absolutely no chance that the man seeing some hard times already and getting a little desperate.

Seriously? You making excuse for someone committing crime? No matter how much hard times he seeing that's no reason to do what he did. I would connected a car battery to the bars or a blowtorch. People must realise that there's a consequence to crime.

but two wrongs don't make a right.

But what is the second wrong? It's he that committed the crime...

[MaxPower]

https://www.google.tt/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/12/14/asia/duterte-philippines-davao-killings/index.html

[jasp]

This is one of the greatest bandits ever.

All who saying they will "do him this and do him that".

1) He was shot in both hands for stealing from a pusher-man

2) He was chopped multiple times about the body when someone caught him in his house.

3) His foot was broken with a pick axe handle.