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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trailage

Postby Hyperion » July 7th, 2016, 12:49 pm

Just to add my 2 cents. All those who say go Toyota haven't seen the recall that Toyota Trinidad issued over faulty airbags. The issue affects the much touted Rav 4 as well as the Corolla, Yaris and Avensis. Just something to consider.

I just personally find that Toyota and Honda resale values too artificially inflated because of a perception that they are way superior to other Japanese makers.

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Postby drchaos » July 7th, 2016, 11:54 pm

A friend was telling me his dad called in about his 10 year old RAV for the airbag recall and was told that his model was not affected but there was a recall for the rear suspension over 4 years ago!

Funny that he was never informed, about a life threatening problem on his car.

The rear suspension parts can corrode and become separated, causing the vehicle to lose control.

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Postby baigan » July 8th, 2016, 12:50 am

drchaos wrote:A friend was telling me his dad called in about his 10 year old RAV for the airbag recall and was told that his model was not affected but there was a recall for the rear suspension over 4 years ago!

Funny that he was never informed, about a life threatening problem on his car.

The rear suspension parts can corrode and become separated, causing the vehicle to lose control.

Damn :/

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trailage

Postby TheOne » July 16th, 2016, 7:06 pm

If ya looking for re-sale value brudda buy a NZE Corolla.....That is re-sale central. Honestly I've noticed that SUV's generally don't hold good re-sale regardless of the brand. So buy something you like and forget re-sale.

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trailage

Postby acesinghit » July 18th, 2016, 7:26 am

Not sure what grade the OP is considering as the Tucson, Sportage and X-trail all have several versions. A point to note is, fabric seats and the lack of a sunroof does not mean a basic vehicle. Anyhow, all things being considered I would choose the X-trail.

I know the starter or entry model is 2wd but the next grade upgrades you to roof rails, alloy rims and the part time 4wd system. For me, the mere fact that I can choose when to be in 4wd is a huge plus for me as it saves the drivetrain and prolongs your tyre wear and tear. I think the only other SUV in its class that offers this switchable feature is the Mitsubishi Outlander 2.4 however that as a result of the taxes increase is now history. I not even sure if DM still brings them down.

My major concern about the Xtrail was power. Compared to the Tucson/Sportage siblings the Nissan was down 14hp but has about the same torque. I drove both and I can say I felt no difference in throttle response. I read an article recently that Hyundai and Kia are known for over stating their hp and torque claims and Nissan actually posted conservative hp and torque numbers in the past.

The new MR20DD engine in the Xtrail and Qashqai is not a disappointment as I initially thought it was. It is much improved over the previous QR20DE and MR20DE design found in the T30 and roro T31 xtrails. The DD engine has direct fuel injection and twin VVT ie. Intake and exhaust valve timing. It means the new Xtrail will have a huge fuel efficiency improvement as well as emissions certification. A more streamlined T32 body that is marginally lighter coupled with a revised Xtronic CVT means this T32 I reckon would not be all that slower compared to the T31 QR25DE.

Anyhow, when you consider resale value and interior spaciousness the Xtrail wins between the 3.

If AWD or 4wd whether permanent or part time is a must then consider the Honda CRV 2.0, Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.0 and Subaru Forester 2.0. The Zuki is old school but it's 4wd system is hard core for the class. The CRV only has 4 airbags no curtain option except if you buy the 2.4 version and then there is the space, safety and decent off road capability of the Forester. I will actually spend the extra and head to Subaru.

Some folks mentioned the Toyota RAV4 which is not a bad option but sadly there are no 4wd models imported anymore as those were reserved for the 2.5 engine. The fwd RAV4s in the showroom are all 2.0 and expensive. The best resale value in its class is not sufficient enough for me to even consider the Toyota.

Some time ago SS brought down the Mazda CX-5 2.0 AWD fully loaded which was replaced by the 2.5 model. Not bad but as a result of the taxes SS resorted to import only the basic 2.0 2wd version. The cx5 and forester are my personal favorites but the latter seems more suitably equipped.

So there you have it....forester or Xtrail is a good choice. As for the Koreans? If you buy it then make sure and utilize them fully....milk your ROI from that Sportage or Tucson and don't plan on selling it before 5yrs. Pay off loan first then replace it.

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trailage

Postby eliteauto » July 18th, 2016, 9:42 am

4wd is still a consideration when buying an SUV? 90% of buyers just want a big car anyways, you need 4wd to get unstuck on The Haveneau?

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trailage

Postby jhonnieblue » July 18th, 2016, 10:09 am

Yea a 4x4 suv in trini makes no sense..esp those classes of vehicle..u not going off road with them. Turning on 4wheel drive not going to make u stable driving about 40 on wet roads or help you go thru flood water.
For 99% of drivers it makes no sense

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trail

Postby drchaos » July 18th, 2016, 11:36 am

Also locking your car into 4X4 when the road conditions are dry and don't allow any wheel slip is bad esp when turning.

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trail

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » July 18th, 2016, 1:18 pm

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Now with added T32 X-trail

Postby yardie_tnt » August 3rd, 2016, 9:54 pm

OP here - went with the 2016 Nissan X-Trail. Havent been disappointed so far - the CVT is not as strange as I thought it might be and so far it really does save a bit of gas! Interior is spacious in comparison to the tucson & sportage and the basic model (which is what I got - no need for roof rails or 4x4) comes with 6 airbags which was crucial as my fam will be in the vehicle - more vehicles need that kind of safety feature as a basic inclusion.

Next step is to upgrade the factory audio and add an aftermarket dash unit and back-up camera :D

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Actually went with a 2016 T32 X-trail

Postby Monk BANzai » August 3rd, 2016, 11:34 pm

^^ interesting choice... least power of the group and CVT. But most visually appealing and best comfort package IMO.

Enjoy. If you can keep us updated of your experience. I'm sure alot of ppl would want actual user feedback as opposed to garnered opinion.

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Actually went with a 2016 T32 X-trail

Postby SR » August 4th, 2016, 6:06 am

Wait the 2016 xtrail does not come with 360 connect feature....

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Actually went with a 2016 T32 X-trail

Postby Monk BANzai » August 4th, 2016, 10:39 am

SR wrote:Wait the 2016 xtrail does not come with 360 connect feature....


its interesting ..cuz the spec sheet that TTAUtoguide did and the video they shot features two totally different trims of the Xtrail. Spec sheet does not indicate a leather option, but the one they did the review on had the Leather package...so may be it does.

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Actually went with a 2016 T32 X-trail

Postby Dizzy28 » August 4th, 2016, 10:51 am

^ Isn't there like 6 trims levels for the Xtrail?

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Re: 2016 sportage or tucson? Actually went with a 2016 T32 X-trail

Postby yardie_tnt » August 4th, 2016, 11:29 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:^ Isn't there like 6 trims levels for the Xtrail?


Massy selling 4 trim levels - first 2 are fabric and next two are leather interior

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