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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Ted_v2 » September 3rd, 2015, 10:53 am

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby York » September 3rd, 2015, 11:56 am

someone post the carbon dating of the new and old testament scrolls from the Vatican or whoever has them...the dead sea scrolls as well.

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Postby ruffneck_12 » September 3rd, 2015, 11:58 am

all hail Mr. Tickle PBUH

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Dizzy28 » September 3rd, 2015, 12:07 pm

York wrote:someone post the carbon dating of the new and old testament scrolls from the Vatican or whoever has them...the dead sea scrolls as well.



Carbon-14 dating of milligram samples taken from ragged edges of manuscript margins determined the ages of the scrolls to range from the third century B.C.E. (Before Common Era) to 68 C.E., nearly 2,000 years ago. These dates support earlier paleographic research, which estimated the ages of the scrolls by analyzing the handwriting styles, materials, and formatting of the manuscripts.

http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869Z/CHEM8 ... dsea2.html

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby ruffneck_12 » September 3rd, 2015, 12:17 pm

repost

also you have to say PBUH, or else P will not BUH

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your avatar is reeeeally disturbing

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby bluesclues » September 3rd, 2015, 1:17 pm

oh look.. a quran without the words of mohammed in it. who would oft thought. :roll:

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Slartibartfast » September 3rd, 2015, 1:23 pm

In other news, carbon dating has been proven to be an inaccurate method of finding out the age of artifacts. Religious leader were able to disprove the method of carbon dating by using multiple beheadings.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby bluesclues » September 3rd, 2015, 1:31 pm

carbon dating isnt accurate. however this doesnt surprise me one bit and ill place my chips that it is both authentic as well as the ink will also get dated pre-mohammed

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Slartibartfast » September 3rd, 2015, 2:19 pm

I agree. I don't think Carbon dating is accurate enough to definitivelnarrow it down to just a few years. Also, if you already believe that what is written in the quran is true then chances are you would have no problem dismissing articles such as this one.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby EmilioA » September 3rd, 2015, 2:22 pm

Apparently nobody read my post where the OP's years are actually wrong and the carbon dating puts it in the lifetime of Muhammed.

Continue beating the dead horse.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby jm3 » September 3rd, 2015, 5:55 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:the salient point here is how did the British end up with this artefact? They looted it from somewhere during their conquest?


Their Queen wears a crown made of a stolen Indian gem. The thievery runs deep with that empire.


excellent traders.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » September 3rd, 2015, 9:26 pm

EmilioA wrote:Apparently nobody read my post where the OP's years are actually wrong and the carbon dating puts it in the lifetime of Muhammed.

Continue beating the dead horse.
I think the claim is that the dating puts it before any other known writings?

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby nareshseep » September 3rd, 2015, 11:26 pm

Wayz boi plagiarizing goes way back

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby RASC » September 4th, 2015, 7:56 am

So Mohammed could be sued for copyright infringement?

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Advent » September 4th, 2015, 1:38 pm

Les Bain wrote:RIP scientists
RIP carbon dating

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby York » September 4th, 2015, 4:00 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
EmilioA wrote:Apparently nobody read my post where the OP's years are actually wrong and the carbon dating puts it in the lifetime of Muhammed.

Continue beating the dead horse.
I think the claim is that the dating puts it before any other known writings?

apparently it seems that "the dating" is disputed?

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby shogun » September 4th, 2015, 4:03 pm

Men calling Mr.Tickle name in vain up in here, oui. Allyuh go ahead.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby York » September 4th, 2015, 4:09 pm

who are "the scholars"? no actual reference that can be verified?

Persons at that time were excellent in memory and did not require everything to be written down like we do today. Parchments were possible to be kept for years before being used.

It is the way of Muhammad to verify information when received.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby speedmelter » September 4th, 2015, 4:11 pm

RASC wrote:So Mohammed could be sued for copyright infringement?


awaits south park episode on this one

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby York » September 4th, 2015, 4:14 pm

If the carbon dating analysis proves to be accurate, it would raise serious questions as to the origin of the Islamic holy book. It should be noted, however, that the dating was only conducted on the parchment, rather than the ink, so it is possible that the Quran was simply written on old paper.

this article really is conclusive???

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby SmokeyGTi » September 5th, 2015, 12:00 pm

hol dat:
Bible over 1500 years that says that Jesus was not crucified
A Bible with over 1,500 years was discovered in Turkey and is of concern to the Vatican.That's because the Bible contains the Gospel of Barnabas, who was one of the disciples of Christ, who traveled with the apostle Paul, which maintains a vision of Islam similar to that of Jesus Christ.
The book would have been discovered in 2000 and has been kept secret in the Ethnographic Museum in Ankara. The book, in fact treated leather and written in a dialect of Aramaic, the language of Jesus Christ, has black pages, due to the action of time.According to reports, the experts evaluated the book and ensured that is original.
Religious authorities in Tehran insist that the text shows that Jesus was not crucified, was not the Son of God, but a prophet, and called Paul, the "impostor".The book also says that Jesus ascended to heaven alive without being crucified and Judas Iscariot would have been crucified in his place.
Talk about the announcement that Jesus gave the coming of the Prophet Muhammad, who would found Islam 700 years after Christ. The text provides for the arrival of the last Islamic messiah, a fact that has not happened yet.
The Vatican has expressed concern about the discovery of the book and asked the Turkish authorities to the Catholic Church experts evaluated the content of the book in the Catholic Church. It is believed that the Catholic Church at the Council of Nicea, made the selection of the Gospels that form part of the Bible, deleting some, possibly including the Gospel of Barnabas.
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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby shogun » September 5th, 2015, 12:30 pm

Damn @ some of the claims. No wonder it was being kept secret.

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby GRIM » September 5th, 2015, 12:36 pm

RASC wrote:So Mohammed could be sued for copyright infringement?


impossible, as Mohammed was illiterate therefore couldn't have been able to plagiarize anything.

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lol like you want the men to dead...

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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby speedmelter » September 5th, 2015, 4:59 pm

GRIM wrote:
RASC wrote:So Mohammed could be sued for copyright infringement?


impossible, as Mohammed was illiterate therefore couldn't have been able to plagiarize anything.

speedmelter wrote:awaits south park episode on this one


lol like you want the men to dead...


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Re: Carbon dating suggests early Quran is older than Muhamma

Postby Slartibartfast » September 6th, 2015, 1:33 am

You guys looking at this the wrong way. Dating religious parchments is just an academic exercise in estimation. They know that it's mostly primitive nonsense written inside it anyway. That's why they didn't even bother testing the ink.

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