Obama orders strike against ISIS Iraq

[pioneer]

Many local mosques have pledged full support for ISIS, they saying is about time the world sees true islam.

One imam said throughout history muslims have been slaughtered by christians cuz of their faith, now muslims rising up and people suddenly find it wrong.

My question is, if Muhammad were alive, would he support this? From what I remember he was violent also.

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apparently ISIS is butt hurt now over the US strike.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rikes.html

ROFL

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Iraqi Yazidi MP Breaks Down in Parliament: ISIS is Exterminating my People

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http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/worl ... 904573.cms

Putin offers ‘complete support’ to Iraq, Iran says Obama lacks will to combat terrorism

MOSCOW/TEHRAN: Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday offered Iraqi premier Nouri al-Maliki Russia's total backing for the fight against jihadist fighters who have swept across the Middle East country.

"Putin confirmed Russia's complete support for the efforts of the Iraqi government to speedily liberate the territory of the republic from terrorists," the Kremlin said in a statement following a phone conversation between the two leaders.

Iran says Obama lacks will to combat terrorism in Iraq


The Kremlin said Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia's complete support for the efforts of the Iraqi government to speedily liberate the territory of the republic from terrorists.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2014/08/07/world ... le_sidebar

CNN: Will anyone stop ISIS? video is in link


(CNN) -- If you're following the news about ISIS, which now calls itself the Islamic State, you might think you've mistakenly clicked on a historical story about barbarians from millennia ago.

In a matter of months, the group seized territory in both Iraq and Syria and declared an Islamic caliphate, celebrating its own shocking slaughter along the way.

"I don't see any attention from the rest of the world," a member of the Yazidi minority in Iraq told the New Yorker. "In one day, they killed more than two thousand Yazidi in Sinjar, and the whole world says, 'Save Gaza, save Gaza.'"

In Syria, the group hoisted some of its victims severed heads on poles. One of the latest videos of the savagery shows a Christian man forced to his knees, surrounded by masked militants, identified in the video as members of ISIS. They force the man at gunpoint to "convert" to Islam. Then, the group beheads him.
Iraqis shelter in unfinished buildings
Activist: Must act before 40,000 killed
Yazidi lawmaker: We're being slaughtered

ISIS has targeted members of numerous minority groups in the region, including Christian nuns, Turkmen and Shabaks, according to Human Rights Watch.

France called Thursday for an emergency meeting of the U.N. Security Council. Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius said his country is "highly concerned about the latest progress of ISIS in the north of Iraq and by the taking of Qaraqosh, the largest Christian city of Iraq, and the horrible acts of violence that are committed."

The United States is considering emergency air drops to help thousands of stranded Yazidis, a U.S. Defense official told CNN. The department also is weighing "other military options," a senior State Department official said.

Asked about the possibility of U.S. airstrikes, White House spokesman Josh Earnest said Thursday he was "not in a position to rule things on the table or off the table."

Earlier this week, ISIS fighters tried to seize control of Iraq's largest hydroelectric dam, but Kurdish forces fended them off, the dam's director said.

"If 'IS' manages to consolidate its territory and preserve its legitimacy, an offensive jihad against all other countries will then be considered viable," Jonathan Russell of Qulliam, a think tank formed to combat extremism, wrote on CNN.com.

"Al Qaeda will now want to challenge ISIS's appropriation of its key objectives and tactics. The only way for al Qaeda to stay relevant now is through a violent and spectacular attack. Although ISIS may eventually be a victim of its own success, the real victims will be the thousands of innocent Muslims and non-Muslims caught in the crossfire of this millennarian struggle."

Pope leads call for action

As the tales of horror trickle out from areas ISIS controls -- including Mosul, Iraq's largest city -- a growing chorus of voices is calling on the world to act. The most prominent is Pope Francis.

"The Holy Father follows with strong concern the dramatic news from the north of Iraq, concerning defenseless populations," the Vatican said in a statement Thursday. "Particularly struck have been the Christian communities, a people fleeing from their own villages due to the violence that in these days is raging and overwhelming the region."

"Dear brothers and sisters so persecuted, I know how much you are suffering and I know that everything has been taken from you. I am with you in faith, and with Him that has conquered evil," the Pope said recently during the Angelus prayer.
Christians forced to flee ISIS in Iraq
Christian leader: ISIS beheading children
Kurdistan calls on U.S. to intervene
ISIS claims a dam in northern Iraq

"His Holiness also sends an urgent appeal to the international community, in order that they may work towards ending the humanitarian crisis and protecting those who are affected or threatened by violence, and to ensure necessary aid, especially that which is most urgently needed by so many homeless, whose fate is solely dependent on the solidarity of others," the Vatican said.

"An entire religion is being exterminated from the face of the Earth." Vian Dakhil, a Yazidi, said in an appeal to the Iraqi parliament. She called it a "genocide."

Yazidis, among Iraq's smallest minorities, are of Kurdish descent, and their religion is considered a pre-Islamic sect that draws from Christianity, Judaism and Zoroastrianism.

Analysts: West must arm Kurds

"The world now faces two urgent challenges: to prevent the genocide of the Yazidis and to stop ISIS from continuing to conquer swaths of the Middle East," global affairs columnist Frida Ghitis wrote on CNN.com. "Bombing ISIS positions would help save the Yazidis, but supporting the Kurds is key to success on both counts."
Supporting the Kurds is key to success.
Frida Ghitis, global affairs columnist

The Iraqi Kurdish army, known as the Peshmerga, has fought ISIS but is "outgunned," partly because the Iraqi army dropped its weapons "and fled when ISIS rolled in from Syria and captured Mosul," Ghitis says.

Ghitis wants the United States to help arm the Kurds against ISIS.

The United States has been reluctant to do so, wary that the Kurds will try to break off from Iraq and build a separate state at a time Washingon is trying to bolster a central Iraqi government in Baghdad.

"If the U.S. decided to help the Kurds, there would be no guarantee that the Kurds wouldn't later use those weapons to further their own interests," Dexter Filkins writes in the New Yorker. "But what other choice is there?"

Filkins notes that Iraq has begun air strikes aimed at helping the Kurds -- but, he says, "the Iraqi Army has proved itself utterly ineffectual in combating ISIS."

On Wednesday, the Iraqi air force struck a building Mosul believed to be used by ISIS, killing 76 people, an Iraqi official told CNN. But local officials said dozens of those killed were actually civilians who had opposed the Islamic State.
ISIS has posted photos online showing some of its executions.
ISIS has posted photos online showing some of its executions.

Meanwhile, Iraq's Badr Brigade Shiit militia is is training women to join men in protecting Baghdad if the Islamic State works its way to the capital.

Masrour Barzani, Kurdish intelligence and security chief, called for direct military assistance from the United States in an interview with the Washington Post.

"We've got to help our allies to defend themselves," says David Schenker, head of the Washington Institute's Program on Arab Politics, another voice in support of arming Kurds.

"The other half of that equation is working with the moderate Syrian opposition -- providing them with robust capabilities against the regime and ISIS."

Analyst: Build a U.S. base

Michael Rubin, a former Pentagon official who focuses on Arab politics and terrorism, disagrees on both fronts.

At this point, "the definition of 'moderate' in Syria is 'not engaging in cannibalism,'" he says. "If we did not know about two Chechen brothers in Boston before they carried out the Marathon bombings, how could we know whom to trust within Syria?"
How could we know whom to trust within Syria?
Michael Rubin, American Enterprise Institute

It's too late to arm moderates as a means of curbing the violence in Syria, says Rubin, who is now with the conservative American Enterprise Institute.

And among Kurds in Iraq, there's a danger: "Kurdish leadership is just as permeated by, and just as close in terms of a working relationship with, the Islamic Revolution Guards Corps" -- Iran's elite force. "In the past, the Kurds have leaked intelligence to the Iranians -- and they could presumably leak weaponry."

The Peshmerga is also not as competent as its popular image suggests Rubin says.

He wants the United States to accept an offer from the Massoud Barzani, head of the Kurdistan Regional Government, to set up a base in Kurdistan.

"It would kill two birds with one stone," he says. The United States could base drones or manned aircraft in the region to be used in the fight against ISIS, and the U.S. presence would help cut through some of the Iranian influence.

The Iraqi government wouldn't like it, "but at this point, it's the lesser concern," Rubin says. "We could mitigate this with a request to Baghdad to approve. Baghdad has more to lose by not blessing this especially if we go ahead anyway."

But Earnest, the White House spokesman, said Thursday that President Barack Obama has made clear "there are no American military solutions to the problems in Iraq. We can't solve these problems for them. These problems can only be solved with Iraqi political solutions."
There are no American military solutions to the problems in Iraq.
White House spokesman Josh Earnest

He added that Obama has "demonstrated his clear willingness to take the kind of military action that's required to protect core American interests," including personnel around the globe. But any U.S. military action in Iraq would not include boots on the ground, Earnest said.

ISIS's cruelty could be its downfall

But the West may have reason to take no immediate action, says Fahad Nazer, terrorism analyst with JTG Inc.

"Unlike other al Qaeda branches, ISIS doesn't seem eager to attack the West. It has too much to lose," he writes on CNN.com.
ISIS doesn't seem eager to attack the West. It has too much to lose.
Fahad Nazer, terrorism analyst, JTG Inc.

"While the West has never been comfortable with Hamas in Gaza or Hezbollah in Lebanon, it has largely left it up to the countries of the wider Middle East to deal with these militant, Islamist organizations," he writes.

Also, "The West may find solace in the fact that ISIS has many enemies in the Arab and Muslim worlds," Nazer writes. And with so many groups suffering from its persecution and terror, such "violent ideology and brutality makes its endurance over the long-term unlikely."

The West could work with populations in the region to stand up against terrorism as it did with the Iraq Awakening Councils who turned against al Qaeda in 2006, says Schenker.

There's also the possibility that al Qaeda and ISIS will fight each other so heavily that they inflict casualties and weaken each other. But the risks of inaction by the West in the immediate future may be too great, says Schenker.

"ISIS digging in consolidating gains," he says, "will make it much more difficult to combat in the long run."

"Several Obama administration officials have told us that our national security is at risk from ISIS," adds Elliott Abrams, who served as deputy national security adviser under President George W. Bush.

Abrams supports arming Kurds and says the United States should be willing to use its military power as well. "Otherwise," says Abrams, who is now with the Council on Foreign Relations, "What is the Obama message: there are huge risks, but we'll just watch for a while?"

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EFFECTIC yuh have to understand bro that the US alone cannot send ground troops to Iraq they cannot be the only interceptor of crisis. China has the largest army in the world russia was busy this week testing NORAD with nuclear capable aircraft near the US border. they have aircraft capable of reaching Iraq and back they have no need for carriers. wasnt the germans defanged a bit militarily like Japan after WWII{not sure} at the end of the day bro tens of thousands of US troops were killed fighting a war that had not one thing to do with them initialized by said Republicans I think Obama doesnt want the death of his troops on his conscience. I could be wrong.

[janfar]

History shows that by arming one faction you potentially give then the power to revolt. Hakani in Pakistan was armed by the US now they are considered a terrorist org. Mujahideen was armed to fight against USSR, now they are flagged as a terrorist network. Bottom line is, these are all the result of US foreign policies and propaganda. No president wants to be the one to deal with this... It would open up a can of worms that will be the end of his presidency.

What should they do: 2 options... Harsh reality, let the situation play out and then eliminate the winner by nuke. Disarm both side via NATO.

Of course Russia has to play very carefully with this because they sit on the door step of some of the most extreme militants, in Chechnya and in the Kazaks. There is no good guys in this situation. Everyone has to shoulder their part of the blame and do the needful.

[boxy]

not only that the chechnyians have gone to Iraq to help ISIS and these bastards are battle hardened. ISIS already stated that they comming for THE Americans and Russians next. Guessing thats why Putin jump in and say he giving full support.

The thing i have noticed since i was young. China is a major superpower and they stay out of conflicts in the middle east. When have u guys ever hear of militants threatening China? Technically china cracks down on religious groups and what not but the never get threatened with Jihad. I always pondered about that.

[meccalli]

China have their own cattle to prod with electric batons in the form of tibetan folks..

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EFFECTIC yuh have to understand bro that the US alone cannot send ground troops to Iraq they cannot be the only interceptor of crisis. China has the largest army in the world russia was busy this week testing NORAD with nuclear capable aircraft near the US border. they have aircraft capable of reaching Iraq and back they have no need for carriers. wasnt the germans defanged a bit militarily like Japan after WWII{not sure} at the end of the day bro tens of thousands of US troops were killed fighting a war that had not one thing to do with them initialized by said Republicans I think Obama doesnt want the death of his troops on his conscience. I could be wrong.

Well I not sure eh boy, but I remember Israel saying the only reason they didn't bomb Iran was because their fighter Jets cannot make it to Iran and back with a full tank of fuel.

This leads me to believe Russia cannot reach Iraq with Jets and return because if I am not mistaken its almost the same distance no?

Other wise if their planes could reach from Russia to Iraq they would just fly it there rather than using the Antonov to transport it dismantled. Cause lets be real it costs more to take apart a few Jets and ship it with an Antonov than just fly it there in one piece.

Unless we talking strategic bombers like TU-95 russian bear if thats what you are talking about?
But this is used only for nuclear bombings.

Amazingly this plane was invented by Soviet Russia in the 1950s and is expected to serve the Russian air-force till 2040. Said to have the most powerful turbo propeller engine ever made by man

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tupolev_Tu-95

[janfar]

Young padawan. Read about Xinjiang autonomous province and its woes.

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I think its shameful that places like China well forget China them does do these things to their own people as a way of life. But military like from Canada, France, Germany, Japan, India. All these powerful military acting so cheap and refusing to help, always America to save the world from thugs like these. The only ones besides America trying to help is Russia but its just not enough and their hands full with Ukraine.

But if thats the case so be it, we cannot have another holocaust. The only thing for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing, remember?

So boxy thats why I say the world's only super power cannot and must not sit idle by while another holocaust takes place.

[shogun]

Amazing that the US gets criticized when they intervene and when they don't. They just can't win.

Obama's being very smart IMO... Putting pressure on the Iraqi gov't to be more inclusive and help end the sectarianism, essentially making groups like ISIS less attractive, while forcing the Iraqi security forces step up and defend their own territory. The US can't and shouldn't do it alone... funny how feckless other countries are being in this whole situation though.

[shogun]

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/middle-east/Putin-offers-complete-support-to-Iraq-Iran-says-Obama-lacks-will-to-combat-terrorism/articleshow/36904573.cms

Putin offers ‘complete support’ to Iraq, Iran says Obama lacks will to combat terrorism

MOSCOW/TEHRAN: Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday offered Iraqi premier Nouri al-Maliki Russia's total backing for the fight against jihadist fighters who have swept across the Middle East country.

"Putin confirmed Russia's complete support for the efforts of the Iraqi government to speedily liberate the territory of the republic from terrorists," the Kremlin said in a statement following a phone conversation between the two leaders.

Iran says Obama lacks will to combat terrorism in Iraq


The Kremlin said Vladimir Putin confirmed Russia's complete support for the efforts of the Iraqi government to speedily liberate the territory of the republic from terrorists.

What a pile of rubbish.

Putin better start worrying about his own affairs, because if mounting sanctions reach the dinner tables of average Russians, he'll see how fast his "popularity" will plummet.

[boxy]

well i hear yuh bredrin but at the end of the day sending your own country men to fight a war ALONE doesn't make sense to me and i assume that it doesn't to Obama. remember US troops suffered the biggest casualties in the Iraq war. France Canada Germany toe the line. Putin wont risk sending his troops in out of fear he attracts further jihadist trying to avenge their "brothers" in next door Chechnya.
Personally i think THIS is why the UN exists UNITED F*CKING NATIONS* But they bicker like school girls the security council never have a clear vision because of the BS veto powers of the super power nations. ISIS are a real threat and i sincerely hope that the fellas who sympathizing with them are just being trolls. These muffler bearings killing women children in cold blood no collateral damage (so Palestinian sympathizers don't start) COLD BLOOD these men saying if u not Muslim convert or DIE. men killing in the name of God how is that even possible? Is their god Aries? I saw an interview the other day with one of them the man say he wants to die in Allah name so he can go to heaven cause this is hell on earth and he wants to get to heaven quick.

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What a pile of rubbish.

Putin better start worrying about his own affairs, because if mounting sanctions reach the dinner tables of average Russians, he'll see how fast his "popularity" will plummet.

He is no monster I can assure you.

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well i hear yuh bredrin but at the end of the day sending your own country men to fight a war ALONE doesn't make sense to me and i assume that it doesn't to Obama. remember US troops suffered the biggest casualties in the Iraq war. France Canada Germany toe the line. Putin wont risk sending his troops in out of fear he attracts further jihadist trying to avenge their "brothers" in next door Chechnya.
Personally i think THIS is why the UN exists UNITED F*CKING NATIONS* But they bicker like school girls the security council never have a clear vision because of the BS veto powers of the super power nations. ISIS are a real threat and i sincerely hope that the fellas who sympathizing with them are just being trolls. These muffler bearings killing women children in cold blood no collateral damage (so Palestinian sympathizers don't start) COLD BLOOD these men saying if u not Muslim convert or DIE. men killing in the name of God how is that even possible? Is their god Aries? I saw an interview the other day with one of them the man say he wants to die in Allah name so he can go to heaven cause this is hell on earth and he wants to get to heaven quick.

The whole thing about it is scripture is written in such a way it can be interpreted to mean anything you want it to mean. It was done so deliberately from the start to control the masses. Before the story of christ you will find Christians stoning people to death just the same, but then came the wise words of "he without sin cast the first stone"

That forever changed the face of Christianity. But all religions are designed like this especially that of which falls in the abrahamic triangle. The UN is a next sorry sack of sheit an excuse really they are useless. They are paid for and bought by Saudi oil money the same country that funded ISIS.
Ever wondered where ISIS got so much money and recruitment from? all those professional jihad recruitment videos etc?

As a species we are a sad deplorable bunch. We demand death to anyone who commits rape and murder of innocent people but if its done because of cultural or religious reasons its then suddenly ok and just fine and dandy.

Remember when Hitler exterminated Jews he said in Mein Kampf that he was doing his Christian duty an everyone roared and cheered him on the catholic church even wanted to make him the next pope for his great efforts in exterminating Jews. This is why 6 million Jews were allowed to be exterminated while the world watched and rejoiced because it was for religious reasons.

And make no mistake, ISIS is the true modern day NAZI. Taliban and Al Qaeda was a joke compared to these people thats why the media never gave them the attention they needed. Yes Taliban and Al Qaeda was a sorry bunch of murderers aswell but nowhere near Nazism.

ISIS is the true embodiment of NAZISM and they have far far more progress in this early stage that the Germans ever had in the beginning of WW2. The germans exterminated Jews when the war went sour for Hitler, prior to that with his successful invasion of Poland and France he was considering just deporting the Jews. ISIS on the other hand has descended into murderous Nazi insanity from the very beginning before anything even got sour. Imagine what they gonna do now with those women they have kidnapped.

Not to mention ISIS has the financial capital and manpower to show Hitler how it should have been done.

[boxy]

it is appalling to see these men have no conscience murdering kids screaming god is great. if these guys want to get to hevean that quickly why dont they just swim out into the persian gulf and give people who want to live a good life a chance to do so.

We are a cancer to this planet i always say it

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Check the date on this article; couldn't be more ironic:

By Ernesto Londoño and Greg Miller September 11, 2013
The CIA has begun delivering weapons to rebels in Syria, ending months of delay in lethal aid that had been promised by the Obama administration, according to U.S. officials and Syrian figures. The shipments began streaming into the country over the past two weeks, along with separate deliveries by the State Department of vehicles and other gear — a flow of material that marks a major escalation of the U.S. role in Syria’s civil war.

The arms shipments, which are limited to light weapons and other munitions that can be tracked, began arriving in Syria at a moment of heightened tensions over threats by President Obama to order missile strikes to punish the regime of Bashar al-Assad for his alleged use of chemical weapons in a deadly attack near Damascus last month.

The arms are being delivered as the United States is also shipping new types of nonlethal gear to rebels. That aid includes vehicles, sophisticated communications equipment and advanced combat medical kits.

U.S. officials hope that, taken together, the weapons and gear will boost the profile and prowess of rebel fighters in a conflict that started about 21 / 2 years ago.

Although the Obama administration signaled months ago that it would increase aid to Syrian rebels, the efforts have lagged because of the logistical challenges involved in delivering equipment in a war zone and officials’ fears that any assistance could wind up in the hands of jihadists. Secretary of State John F. Kerry had promised in April that the nonlethal aid would start flowing “in a matter of weeks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat ... story.html

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its very sad to see what has been done in iraq

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ISIS rape Syrian women and children and then stones them to death for what they call the crime of being raped

http://m.apnews.com/ap/db_268743/conten ... d=fLzajJrV

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instead of dropping bombs, they should drop pork

[matthewmazda]

The ISIS's objective is the establishment of a world wide Caliphate, reflected in frequent media reports by means of images of the world united under a ISIS banner. Although it has perpetrated many terrorist acts since its formation in 2006, especially against Shia and Christian civilians, ISI/ISIS/ISIL has been especially active in late 2102 and 2013, claiming responsibility for killing and wounding hundreds of people through suicide bombings. It's principal targets are U.S. military and Shia and Christian civilians.

Think we safe in Trinidad for now ?

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New ISIS Horror shows Adolf Hitler how it should have been done by burying hundreds of children alive for purpose of ethnic cleansing of what they consider Yazidi to be a sub human race, the western powers are helpless in this new holocaust simply because this new holocaust is being done at the request of God. ISIS the world's richest terrorist army at $2 billion US continues to grow and slaughter

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 59695.html

vMilitants in north-western Iraq have buried women and children alive during their offensive against the Yazidi ethnic minority, according to Iraq’s minister for human rights.
The bodies were reportedly found in a mass grave in the wake of Isis’s push towards the Sinjar mountain range, where tens of thousands of Kurdish-speaking refugees have been trapped to the point of starvation.

Mohammed Shia al-Sudani said his government had evidence that 500 Yazidi civilians had been killed so far, and that some of the victims had been buried alive. A further 300 Yazidi women have been kidnapped as slaves, he added.

The Isis offensive against the Yazidi people has been described as “genocide in [both] the literal and legalistic sense”, and the UN estimates that at least 56 children have died of dehydration alone in the Sinjar mountain camps.

The increasingly horrific nature of Isis’s campaign in northern Iraq has now provoked the US to take action, with Barack Obama saying yesterday that action was need to prevent more deaths and provide humanitarian aid.
Read more:
American intervention against Isis boosts Kurdish morale
Iraq crisis - the case for intervention
Starving, desperate, but safe from Isis on Mount Sinjar

US Central Command said that over the course of Saturday it carried out four air strikes from its planes and drones over Iraq, targeting the Isis militants as they fired indiscriminately upon civilians.

Military officials said they destroyed armoured carriers and a truck, in what was the third round of air strikes since they were authorised by the President on Thursday.

And while Mr Obama admitted the US military cannot bring peace to Iraq, he said the air strikes were “part of a long-term project” that will continue until Iraq can form a government capable of ensuring the security of its borders.

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America's biggest mistake is electing Obama. Whoooood ah thunk it?????

America needs a warmongering republican who means business. The Liberals/Democrats believe in allowing genocides and holocausts to happen as long as its done for religious or cultural purposes.

The world's only super power is helpless with its liberal leader to stop this mass execution on a scale that staggers the human imagination. If the world's only super power is helpless then who will stop this new form of Nazism? Canada? Germany? France?

No one seems to care just like no one cared about the Jews of 1940's Germany.

Only a matter of time before human experiments on children are carried out now by ISIS.

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'Deadly danger': UK and Germany warn of Islamist fighters' plans to attack in Europe

http://rt.com/news/166880-islamist-figh ... ck-europe/



UK Prime Minister and German interior minister have warned on Wednesday that Islamist fighting in the Middle East is going to directly affect Europe as jihadists are going to carry out attack on the European soil too.

The UK Prime Minister, David Cameron, said Wednesday that Islamist insurgents in Iraq were planning to attack Britain and that the world could not sit back and let militants do as they please in “ungoverned spaces.”

Cameron hit back at critics who have said western powers should leave Iraq and the Middle East to their own devises.

“I disagree with those people who think this is nothing to do with us and if they want to have some sort of extreme Islamist regime in the middle of Iraq it won’t affect us all. It will,” Cameron said during Prime Minister’s questions.

London has said it has ruled out any military intervention in Iraq, but it’s not clear whether Britain’s overstretched and underfunded military would be capable of deploying personnel there anyway, although the UK has sent an “operational liaison and reconnaissance team” to Baghdad. London has also pledged to crack down on Britons’ travelling to the region to fight in the insurgency.

“So the right answer is to be long term, hard headed, patient and intelligent with interventions that we make ... because these problems will come back and hit us at home if we don't. The estimates are now that this [ISIS's rise in Iraq and Syria] is a greater threat to the UK than the return of jihadists from the Afghanistan or Pakistan region,” Cameron said.

Cameron said that an estimated 400 people from the UK have taken part in fighting with ISIS in Iraq and Syria, although he admitted that as regards Iraq the UK government has considerably less information than about the situation in Syria.

Cameron was adamant that these jihadists pose a serious threat to the UK.

"The people in that [Islamist] regime as well as trying to take territory are also planning to attack us here at home in the United Kingdom."
‘Deadly danger’

Germany’s interior minister said Wednesday that fighters returning back to Europe from Syria are no longer an “abstract threat” but a “deadly danger.”

During a presentation of the German domestic intelligence service (BfV) report, he said an estimated 2,000 Europeans including 320 German citizens have gone to Syria to fight with forces opposed to President Bashar Assad.

“We had feared that those returning from the Syrian conflict might plan attacks here. We know those fears were well founded. An abstract danger has turned into a concrete deadly danger in Europe,” he said.

The chief of the BfV Hans-Georg Maassen said that the German authorities have narrowly averted an attack on Bonn before Christmas that would have caused many casualties.

As a result of the continuing threat Germany has introduced a program of anti-radicalization and set up phone hotlines for families who are worried their children might be planning to leave for Syria.

The BfV estimates that in Germany alone there are around 43,000 Islamists, with members of the ultra-conservative Salafist movement growing daily.

Maassen said that young people are sharing experiences and videos of the civil war in Syria online.

“They are posting gruesome pictures of executions, of severed heads…it is staggering to see the numbers of ‘likes’ and links, and it shows there is a group in Germany, which is ready to be radicalized and to travel to Syria,” he said.

[janfar]

Why should the US be the main striking force in this scenario... Because all this is there making. As I explained before, the US armed ISIS and most of the other factions that they are now calling terrorists. If you don't understand the economics of this then you will always assume the US is the only one helping and the others a being cheap with their resources.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Why should the US be the main striking force in this scenario... Because all this is there making. As I explained before, the US armed ISIS and most of the other factions that they are now calling terrorists. If you don't understand the economics of this then you will always assume the US is the only one helping and the others a being cheap with their resources.

The US armed and trained Osama Bin laden too

"During in the 1970s, when Russia was the biggest threat to America and radical Islam was not as a concern of the USA’s, the USA began funding and training Islamic militants to fight our Russian enemies in Afghanistan.
These militants, known as the mujahideen would rebel the Russians out of Afghanistan and later become the Taliban, Al Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood.
One of the most prominent members of he mujahideen was a wealthy son of a Saudi Arabian businessman named Osama Bin Laden."

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Baghdad slams Saudi Arabia for ‘encouraging genocide’ in Iraq



http://rt.com/news/166592-saudi-arabia-genocide-iraq/

The Iraqi government says that it holds Saudi Arabia “responsible” for the current crisis and has blamed Riyadh for encouraging “genocide” in the country through the backing of Sunni militants.

READ MORE: Gruesome ISIS atrocities: Video shows Iraqi soldiers insulted, then executed

“We hold them [Saudi Arabia] responsible for supporting these groups financially and morally, and for the outcome of that - which includes crimes that may qualify as genocide: the spilling of Iraqi blood, the destruction of Iraqi state institutions and historic and religious sites,” the Shiite-led cabinet said in a statement issued by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office.

Comments from Riyadh this week "indicate siding with terrorism."

Maliki pointed the finger at both Saudi Arabia and Qatar for perceived support of terrorism in Iraq in March.

Making the statement could have serious implications for the conflict, only serving to deepen religious divisions in Iraq society.

Shakir Wahib (L), Abu Wahib, a leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) standing next to burning cars, at an undisclosed location in Iraq. (AFP Photo / HO / Hanein.info)

Shakir Wahib (L), Abu Wahib, a leader of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) standing next to burning cars, at an undisclosed location in Iraq. (AFP Photo / HO / Hanein.info)

“Sectarian tensions in Iraq are part of a larger ‘Cold War’ going on between Iran and the Gulf States-namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait. So the US- if it can send a protection force in to protect its embassies and it can try to deal with sectarianism in Iraq, but unless it gets on top of this wider regional conflict, and namely, until it starts to deal with its allies in the gulf and stop them spreading sectarian hate, events in Iraq are going to spill over,” Warwick University’s Dr. Oz Hassan told RT.

Crisis in Iraq spiked after a massive and sudden siege by Sunni ISIS (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) militants who captured cities in the north of the country – including the main city of Mosul – and started marching towards Baghdad shortly afterwards.

The jihadists have already declared the capture of the capital Baghdad to be their top priority objective. Since the group began its mission at the beginning of June, militants have carried out violent beheadings. UN staff and foreign embassy staff have been partially withdrawn from the country out of personal safety fears.

Militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) parading over an armoured personell carrier at an undisclosed location. (AFP Photo / HO / Youtube)

Militants from the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) parading over an armoured personell carrier at an undisclosed location. (AFP Photo / HO / Youtube)

“If sectarianism spills out onto the streets of Baghdad it’s going to be incredibly hard to contain because you’re going to have Sunnis and Shi’ites fighting each other street to street,” Hassan said.

It was reported Monday that the USS Mesa Verde, with 550 Marines onboard, has entered the Persian Gulf for a possible operation in Iraq.

Iraq has requested the hastened delivery of major weapons orders, including dozens of F-16 fighter jets contracted with Lockheed Martin and dozens of Boeing’s Apache helicopters, to counter the insurgent fighters.

An offshoot of Al-Qaeda, ISIS, the hyper-fundamentalist group active in Iraq and Syria, fell out with the global terrorist network. It gained notoriety for its ruthless tactics, which include publicly crucifying and beheading those who violate their strict religious interpretations. Its rise and consolidation owe a great deal to the simultaneous power vacuum that arose after the Syrian civil war broke out and the ongoing tumult in Iraq after the US invasion and occupation.

Fighting against the Shia governments of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki in Baghdad and Bashar Assad in Damascus has also allowed the Sunni organization to recruit thousands of people under its aim of eventually turning the entire region into an ultraconservative Muslim caliphate.

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ISIS Invades Lebanon

http://www.timesofoman.com/Columns/2165 ... to-Lebanon

After all the warnings and all the clichés about a war that would "spill" over Syria's border, the savage fighters of Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi's "caliphate" have at last arrived in Lebanon.