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Re: WAR??????

Postby bluefete » April 3rd, 2013, 9:27 pm

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This isn't about N.Korea. It's about a threat to the world banksters frightened by the emergence of a Chinese, Indian, Russian and maybe Iran alternative system.

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North Korea says it has approval to use its 'cutting edge' nuclear weapons against the United States in a 'merciless' attack just hours after Chuck Hagel calls them a 'clear and present danger'

The North Korean Army said today it had received final approval to launch 'merciless' nuclear strikes against the United States.

The General Staff of the Korean People's Army said it was formally notifying Washington that U.S. threats would be 'smashed by... cutting-edge smaller, lighter and diversified nuclear strike means,' according to a statement published by the official KCNA news agency.

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'The merciless operation of (our) revolutionary armed forces in this regard has been finally examined and ratified.

'The moment of explosion is approaching fast,' the statement read, adding that it could occur 'today or tomorrow.'

The pronouncement came just hours after U.S. Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said North Korea presented a 'clear and present danger' to the U.S. and its allies after days of escalating rhetoric.

Hawaii and Guam would also be outside the range of its medium-range missiles, but U.S. bases in South Korea and Japan may be vulnerable.

Hagel issued a statement after U.S. stealth bombers were seen patrolling the border between North and South Korea as part of military exercises which have inflamed tensions in the region.

Despite a successful long-range rocket launch in December, it is believed North Korea is years from developing an inter-continental ballistic missile that could strike the mainland United States, AFP reported.

Chinese troops have been placed on a heightened state of alert along the country's frontier with North Korea after a series of warlike statements and actions from the pariah state.

The North today blocked South Korean workers from entering a jointly run factory zone which is one of the few signs of positive relations between the neighboring countries.

The move to bar South Koreans from going to work at the Kaesong industrial complex comes a day after North Korea announced that it would re-open a nuclear facility which has been closed for six years.

U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry yesterday spoke out against North Korea's latest aggressive moves, calling them 'provocative, dangerous and reckless', while Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said the country was a 'growing threat' to the world's security.

South Korean officials said that workers were being allowed to return home from Kaesong, which is on the north side of the border.

But around 480 people who had planned to travel to the park today were denied entry, with North Korea blaming the decision on recent political developments.

The Kaesong industrial park started producing goods in 2004 and has been an unusual point of co-operation in an otherwise hostile relationship between the Koreas.

North Korea's latest war of words with Seoul and Washington ratcheted up when the United Nations imposed fresh sanctions on the country for its February 12 nuclear test.

At the same time, South Korea and the United States have been staging annual war games, which Pyongyang claims are a prelude to an invasion.

Those exercises run throughout April.

Despite the rhetoric and the cutting of telephone hot lines to the South, Pyongyang has not taken any military action and shows no sign of preparing its 1.2 million strong armed forces for war, Washington says.

That would indicate much of the vitriol is intended for domestic consumption to bolster young leader Kim Jong-un ahead of celebrations marking the anniversary of the birthday of Kim Il-sung, the state's founder and the younger Kim's grandfather, on April 15.

Kim has also used the rising tensions to cement his grip on power by appointing a key ally of his uncle and aunt as the country's prime minister.

'At least until the end of April, when drills end, the North is likely to keep up the tensions as it had done in previous years,' said Cheong Seong-chang of the Sejong Institute think tank in Seoul.

The 30-year old Kim was showing the North could stand up to the United States and to South Korea's new President Park Geun-hye, who took office just a week after the nuclear test, the country's third, said the defector Ahn.

'North Korea doesn't have the economic power that South Korea has but it's stressing its nuclear abilities to show that it can pull equal weight,' he said.

North Korean officials said that at the Yongbyon facility a graphite-moderated five-megawatt reactor, which generates spent fuel rods laced with plutonium, would be restarted soon.

The reactor is capable of churning out one atomic bomb worth of plutonium - the most common fuel in nuclear weapons - each year.The UN chief says he fears North Korea is on a collision course with other nations that could lead to war.

News of the Kaesong closure initially hurt South Korean financial markets. The won currency was trading at a six and a half-month low in early trade but later recovered.

Mr Kerry warned North Korea to stop provoking the South and the U.S. after weeks of threats from the secretive state and its leader Kim Jong Un.

'The bottom line, very simply, is that what Kim Jong Un has been choosing to do is provocative, it is dangerous, reckless, and the United States will not accept the DPRK as a nuclear state,' he said.

He said that any move to re-start operations at the Yongbyon nuclear plant would be 'a direct violation' of North Korea's international commitments and a 'very serious step.'

'It would be a provocative act and completely contrary to the road we have travelled for all these years,' he said.

Mr Hagel said that North Korea's nuclear threats were a 'growing threat' in a telephone call to his Chinese counterpart.

China has warned troops stationed in its north-east that they should be ready for mobilisation in case conflict breaks out between the Koreas, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

Unusual numbers of soldiers and armoured vehicles have been reported in the region, and commanders have apparently been ordered to be on the highest degree of readiness.

The top American commander in South Korea has described the situation as 'volatile' and 'dangerous', saying he fears a 'miscalculation' could lead to full-blown military conflict.

General James Thurman told ABC News that Kim was trying to 'intimidate the South Koreans and intimidate the region', but said the Americans were 'calm' and 'confident' at the possibility of confrontation.

Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon says the isolated Asian nation appears to be 'on a collision course with the international community' amid rising tensions on the Korean Peninsula.

Ban, a former South Korean foreign minister, said today in Andorra 'the current crisis has already gone too far' because of escalating tensions raised by North Korea's threats of war almost daily against the United States and South Korea.

He said international negotiations are urgently needed but he is 'convinced that no one intends to attack' North Korea.

Pyongyang has sought disarmament-for-aid talks with Washington and more domestic loyalty by portraying North Korean leader Kim Jong Un as a powerful commander.

Pyongyang conducted its third nuclear test in February, prompting UN sanctions that have infuriated its leaders and led to the current tensions.

The government has since declared that making nuclear arms and strengthening the economy are the nation's top priorities.

According to estimates from the Institute for Science and International Security from late 2012, North could have enough weapons grade uranium for 21-32 nuclear weapons by 2016 if it used one centrifuge at its Yongbyon nuclear plant to enrich uranium to weapons-grade.

'The General Department of Atomic Energy... decided to adjust and alter the uses of the existing nuclear facilities, to begin with,' KCNA reported.

It said the nuclear facilities would be used for both electricity and military uses.

It was not clear how long it would take to restart the reactor, whose cooling tower was blown up in a made-for-TV event in 2008 under an agreement to suspend the atomic complex.

There have been reports of construction work near where the tower once stood but it was not clear whether the North was rebuilding it.

North Korea added the five-megawatt, graphite-moderated reactor to its nuclear complex in 1986 after seven years of construction.

The country began building a 50-megawatt and a 200-megawatt reactor in 1984, but their construction was suspended under a 1994 nuclear deal with Washington.

North Korea has long said that the reactor operation is aimed at generating electricity. It takes about 8,000 fuel rods to run the reactor.

Reprocessing the spent fuel rods after a year of reactor operation could yield about 7kg of plutonium - enough to make at least one nuclear bomb.

'If there is any provocation against South Korea and its people, there should be a strong response in initial combat without any political considerations,' Park Geun-hye told the defence minister and senior officials.

The South has changed its rules of engagement to allow local units to respond immediately to attacks, rather than waiting for permission from Seoul.

Stung by criticism that its response to the shelling of a South Korean island in 2010 was weak, Seoul has also threatened to target North Korean leader Kim Jong Un and to destroy statues of the ruling Kim dynasty in the event of any new attack, a plan that has outraged Pyongyang.

Park's intervention came on the heels of a meeting of the North's ruling Workers Party Central Committee where Kim rejected the notion that Pyongyang was going to use its nuclear arms development as a bargaining chip.

'The nuclear weapons of Songun Korea are not goods for getting U.S. dollars,' KCNA news agency quoted him as saying.

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Re: WAR??????

Postby rfari » April 3rd, 2013, 11:14 pm

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Re: WAR??????

Postby rocknrolla » April 4th, 2013, 3:54 am

the thing is that at least the NK have the moral standing to declare and warn about war before they strike. unlike the USA who live in fear and strike first quietly to gain the advantage in what they call 'pre-emptive wars'. nothing less than cowardice throwing rocks from behind the lines if u ask me.

i think usa is bluffing a powerful role still. one they have lost since at least the beginning of 2012. yet refuse to admit and place their entire population at risk. NK doesnt want the missile defense system at guam installed as it is obviously a provocative act for their region. i dont think usa should call NK's bluff. to begin with i dont think they are bluffing.

america is a weakened beast. and everyone knows it. china is currently the world superpower. tho u wouldnt know it by the way they carry about themselves quietly. someone with power is supposed to be a loudmouth right? well not the chinese. noone knows what they have up their sleeve. and my statements are supported by the fact that usa'a earlier attempt to position warships near china to threaten russia. china told them to get their ass away from their waters.. and they complied!

next russia has been infiltrating the us coastline on numerous occasions without detection. spending as much as 2weeks+ off the coast of usa before being detected. and well, they werent even detected. the russians told them they were leaving. otherwise they may never have known they were even there.

america is broke. their tech is half arsed because of capitalism and funding issues. their pilots are suffocating in the new planes among a host of other issues with american tech. put quite simply. america's arsenal isnt even reliable anymore.

their only choice as i see it is the coward's role. to rain down on NK with half their nuclear arsenal to set an example and make a statement of their power. which would leave them even more broke and weakened to fight the likes of a collective BRICS nations in a world war. NK cud just be the first line of attack. provoking and luring the usa into a fight that gives the others an opportunity to observe their reaction and strategy.

regardless.. everything is flying off the shelves in america right now as ppl prepare for doom. they are all frightened and cant trust their government anymore. all of a sudden everyone is in panic mode and have become preppers.. while the preppers are relaxing having already acquired all they need and could supply to survive various types of large scale devastation.

finally, all the cowards hide. while bombs are falling on the population.. expect the politicians who started the war to go and hide in their sophisticated bunkers.

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Re: WAR??????

Postby christopherwilliams2 » April 4th, 2013, 7:09 am

Can't deal with no war now nah, look how many big movies to come out this year... And all that stop with war? Depends on who jump in for who. Champions League and Epl eh done yet either. And the s4 eh released.

Ok that's just the trivial stuff.

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Postby JoKeR1980 » April 4th, 2013, 8:09 am

chubbs ackin up

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Re: WAR??????

Postby rocknrolla » April 11th, 2013, 12:18 am

iran just announced it will stand by nk in a war against usa. russia still playing possum and china pretty quiet considering they were just about to attack japan who is standing with the usa...

we already know usa team.. nato

but they dont know oall the players that will team up against them just yet

germany wants it's gold back.. also very quiet.

date to watch is april 15th.. enjoy the show.. any of our local defense force boys going to fight in the war and help usa?

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Postby Rooki3 » April 11th, 2013, 12:31 am

nice :popcorn: cud do wid ah holiday

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Postby rocknrolla » April 12th, 2013, 2:20 pm

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/391 ... l-be-Japan

" In a commentary carried by the Korean Central News Agency (KCNA), the communist country lashed out at Tokyo's standing orders to destroy any missile heading toward Japan, threatening such actions will result in a nuclear attack against the island nation.

If Japan executes its threat to shoot down any North Korean missile, such a “provocative” intervention would see Tokyo — an enormous conurbation of 30 million people — “consumed in nuclear flames”, KCNA warned."

it would seem that there is no official or reliable count for how many nukes nk has.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ar_weapons

3 outcomes..

the usa and nato back down.
usa strikes and pulverizes nk
a devious world war with many lives being lost on both sides to assist depopulation.

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Re: WAR??????

Postby DionYorker » April 12th, 2013, 2:29 pm

Rooki3 wrote:nice :popcorn: cud do wid ah holiday


Dan babelon go ghet called out....so yuh go be wukkin..... :mrgreen:

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Postby rfari » April 12th, 2013, 4:08 pm

Fat boy mental yes. Chettin japan if it shoots down any missiles heading toward it. Really?

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Postby Rooki3 » April 12th, 2013, 4:09 pm

DionYorker wrote:
Rooki3 wrote:nice :popcorn: cud do wid ah holiday


Dan babelon go ghet called out....so yuh go be wukkin..... :mrgreen:


who are u again??

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Postby rocknrolla » April 12th, 2013, 4:53 pm

rfari wrote:Fat boy mental yes. Chettin japan if it shoots down any missiles heading toward it. Really?


yeah the missiles would have to pass over japan to get to guam or the usa west coast. he tellin them dont interfere cuz he not in the mood. lol

hopefully they will back down. dont want to see japan eating a nuke right now. besides the fallout would affect the west coastal areas of both north and south america. the fish could be tarnished with radiation giving rise to more mutations and birth defects in animals as well as humans(animals) in affected regions.

nuclear war will destroy this world if thing escalates to all out war.. i just want them to keep their sheit above the equator. one good nuke could send trinidad into the stone age. id hope we keep our noses out of it and dont take usa bait to use as pawns the way they trying to use japan.

in truth the brawl is between nk and usa. so noone else should interfere. usa is surrounding eastern territory with military bases. something that im sure is understandable why governments in that region are not comfortable with having strategic positioned military bases all around them from an enemy nation threatening their sovereignty.

it would seem that usa is willing to risk the entire world in a devastating world war to obtain all the strategic locations in their plans. question to be asked is why they MUST become the world police? what is their goal? theyre already sacrificing their own citizens so it must be really important.

simply removing the installation from guam would calm nk down i believe. and thats all they have to do to stop or at least postpone nuclear war.

war is not a nice thing. collateral damage is not catered for. so hope ur friends and families in foreign countries survive the onslaught if the sheit does hit the fan.

a world war now would be worse than all the others put together due to the technological advancements that have taken place since then.

to the usa.. a one world government order is a nice idea.. but who will guard the guards?

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Postby src1983 » April 12th, 2013, 5:19 pm

Did some reading in WW2....

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Now imagine a nuclear world war.....

Scary....

Better start a weekend project and build a lead bunker

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Postby Rooki3 » April 12th, 2013, 5:20 pm

watch d causualties nah, they won, but lost at the same time

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Postby rocknrolla » April 12th, 2013, 5:27 pm

Rooki3 wrote:watch d causualties nah, they won, but lost at the same time


yup the germans were a very powerful force. but they marginally overestimated themselves by trying to fight everyone at once.. marginally.

the usa decided to fix that and instead spread out their conquest over time and asset by asset. but it seems to me like a repeat of the romans. their troops are too thinly spread across the globe and as a result of that and the economic downturn.. would not even be able to care for their troops and veterans. injured soldiers would killed or allowed to die because allocations of funds to fight the war will take precedence over medical care. even over the civillians.

obama's socialist healthcare plan is also on par with the likes of hitler's. draining the economy even further. all under the plan will have to surrender their bank account access to the government. and the government will take as they need and see fit by presidential executive order.

but ull know things are really bad when they start sending children 16yrs old and under to fight.

the question still remains tho. did the germans really lose the war? hitler's body was never found. recent dna testing claims that it wasnt hitler's body and that he used a double. noone saw when hitler died. crazy i know. but this is the world we live in.
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Postby rfari » April 12th, 2013, 5:35 pm

Turbotusty, u have a decent interpretation of that conflict. More than myself at least. Do u think tht the us is fighting south korea's war? China has been mostly silent. Arent they the mediators?

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Postby rocknrolla » April 12th, 2013, 5:46 pm

rfari wrote:Turbotusty, u have a decent interpretation of that conflict. More than myself at least. Do u think tht the us is fighting south korea's war? China has been mostly silent. Arent they the mediators?


i think usa wants control of the region so everything else is just a means to an end or cover story. their main goal i believe is to eliminate all threats to america's military force leaving them the most powerful police of the globe. to do that they will want to disarm any nation or prevent any rival nation from obtaining nuclear and other advance weaponry that can rival them.

without fail they will pursue iran and nk to get the strategic positioning required to go after russia and china. they hate how china has kept its currency artificially low to offer better prices to the world while they keep theirs artificially high to profit greatly in capitalism.

they want iran's uranium resources as well as control over the strait which carries most of the world oil for delivery. then there is the iranian central bank which is currently still under control of iran unlike all other countries including our own. money money money.

on another underside.. iraq/iran are cradles of civilization. many ancient artifact and knowledge as well as power to come from control of those contries. china however.. has the largest resource of ancient pyramids etc that are completely untouched and hidden away from the world's eyes. noone can go in.. no fly zone etc.

im pretty sure that russia and iran wont stand by and let usa take nk. after nk will surely be iran. then russia and china. so they may all decide to fall in line from now. the objective of the usa is no secret to them.


i am really curious about where germany will fit in with all of this. they are the ones ive found to be strangely quiet and unaffected by all the turmoil in their region. so calm while all that is going on around them not feeling threatened in the least it seems. y?

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Postby rfari » April 12th, 2013, 6:21 pm

Germany right now have doubts about nk's weapons capability. And at the moment cyprus has the eurozone pooping brix so they couldnt care less

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Postby rocknrolla » April 12th, 2013, 6:23 pm

good point. they may want to stay out of it all knowing they cant get involved without proper financial stability.

and thats the other thing..

america is still acting quite smug in doubting that nk can launch an attack that reaches american soil. if that is true.. and they know that. then why do they need missile launch systems in guam? for one it would give them the range to reach nk from guam but nk wouldnt be able to reach america itself to retaliate. so nk's uneasiness about that is warranted if u ask me.

so guam is a threat to nk but the americans believe that nk is no threat to them. still seems a bit bullyish on usa's part.

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Postby rocknrolla » April 15th, 2013, 10:15 am

latest;

couple days ago AP released headlines claiming that China will be acting as the negotiators. i never saw much from that since i think that USA asked china.. very politely to assist with the negotiations. but if china doesnt mind usa falling into a trap then nothing would come of it.

yesterday nk claimed they are not interested in any dialogue or negotiation with usa. a strong footed stance on rejecting diplomatic solutions. now nk could still be playing hard sell on their aid requirements. but just in..

NK submarines may be en route to usa as we speak as theyve been put out to sea. and it would seem that cold war messaging technology is currently in play for the highest security in communicating with agents.. who could be anywhere including the us military and white house, already on american soil.

the NKs seem to be taking this really seriously. now if it's bluff it's a damn good one. theyve been raising the pot steadily while the usa just calls..

who will fold first.. or will they go all in and flip the cards to see what the opponent has. it may take a few days to get within strike range of the usa with those submarines. maybe more.. but time is short.

if this isnt cooled down we could have a major war on by summer.

latest article here: http://intellihub.com/2013/04/08/secret ... rth-korea/

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Postby JoKeR1980 » July 17th, 2013, 8:04 am

Panama's president says his country has seized a North Korean-flagged ship carrying "undeclared military cargo".

President Ricardo Martinelli said the ship, stopped in the Panama Canal as it sailed from Cuba, contained suspected "sophisticated missile equipment".

He posted a photo of what looked like a large green object inside a cargo container on his Twitter account.

The president said the 35-strong crew had resisted the search and the captain had tried to kill himself.

The US "commended" Panama for its actions, and said it strongly supported a full inspection of the ship.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-23324170#FBM262775

(CNN) -- It was a mystery that Panama's president said his country was struggling to solve.
What was the massive military equipment hidden under hundreds of thousands of sacks of brown sugar on a North Korean boat? Where did it come from? And where was it going before investigators seized the vessel near the Panama Canal?
Hours after Panama said it would ask U.S. and British officials for help solving the puzzle, Cuba gave an answer Tuesday night.
In addition to 10,000 tons of sugar, Cuba's Foreign Ministry said, the shipment contained "240 metric tons of obsolete defensive weapons" sent to North Korea "to be repaired and returned to Cuba."

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/16/world ... fbmainintl

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Postby De Dragon » July 17th, 2013, 9:29 am

rocknrolla wrote:
pioneer wrote:Pyong is a phaggot

All these constant threats and talknahs, fact is he can't do chit to the US because they will drill their dicks into his ass so hard whoever gets it out will be crowned the new King Arthur.


u all forgetting the very high possibility of them being backed by china, iran, india, russia and more. next world war wont be a walkover for the usa. they ok throwing rocks from behind the lines with their broke economy and pre-emptive wars. but full scale war.. if the afore mentioned team is in operation. i see usa and brittain getting smackdown together with israel

So what about France, Germany, NATO? You really proposing that they would stand by in a global war of those proportions? China needs the US, Russia needs the US. A global world war will simply NEVER happen again, EVER!

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Postby rocknrolla » July 18th, 2013, 11:09 am

De Dragon wrote:
rocknrolla wrote:
pioneer wrote:Pyong is a phaggot

All these constant threats and talknahs, fact is he can't do chit to the US because they will drill their dicks into his ass so hard whoever gets it out will be crowned the new King Arthur.


u all forgetting the very high possibility of them being backed by china, iran, india, russia and more. next world war wont be a walkover for the usa. they ok throwing rocks from behind the lines with their broke economy and pre-emptive wars. but full scale war.. if the afore mentioned team is in operation. i see usa and brittain getting smackdown together with israel

So what about France, Germany, NATO? You really proposing that they would stand by in a global war of those proportions? China needs the US, Russia needs the US. A global world war will simply NEVER happen again, EVER!


i would hope ur right. but let's not guess on certain players. when shtf many reveal their true allegiances. for now those players will be 'playing the game'. but if we could solve our problems without any further wars that would i think be a marked accomplishment. for now, the world is still a war zone. it just hasnt hit home for us, so we could talk. but for some in other countries it's the end of the world.

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Postby bluefete » September 5th, 2013, 9:19 am

The war will start in October.

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ISON the elephant in the room

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Postby MG Man » September 5th, 2013, 10:42 am

under all the ole talk, ask yourself one question:
will my car start after an EMP?

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Postby rocknrolla » September 9th, 2013, 7:09 am

FOX finally opens their eyes


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Re: WAR??????

Postby shogun » September 9th, 2013, 7:15 am

rocknrolla wrote:FOX finally opens their eyes



Yeah, and they're looking up their own asses, with them.... go figure.

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Re: WAR??????

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » September 9th, 2013, 7:31 am

shogun wrote:
rocknrolla wrote:FOX finally opens their eyes



Yeah, and they're looking up their own asses, with them.... go figure.
they were doing that all along anyway.

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