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Postby Computerman » February 14th, 2010, 3:36 pm

Stephon. wrote:if you want to control your car then don't drive fast

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Postby Rahtid » February 14th, 2010, 3:44 pm

pioneer wrote:is really Q?...


nah is a red skin fella,i eh wanna post his tuner name

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Postby NorStar2K » February 14th, 2010, 4:09 pm

MG Man wrote:
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Stephon. wrote:Is flying over the median a sport now for stupid drivers?

I don't know about that, but I want to know how many more lives have to be lostby mainly the innocent, before they install 'New Jersey' concrete barriers on all medians.


yeah so then they will ricochet off the NJ barrier and slam back into traffic :?
there is a bigger issue here..........

No Sir!!!! At least other cars on the same lane upon seeing the NJ barrier impact could take evasive action, but the poor soul on the opposite doesn't stand a chance.

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"The design of the Jersey barrier was specifically intended to minimize damage and reduce the likelihood of a car crossing into oncoming lanes in the event of a collision. For the more common shallow angle hits, the Jersey barrier is intended to minimize sheet metal damage by allowing the vehicle tires to ride up on the lower sloped face.

For higher impact angles, the Jersey barrier is a multistage barrier. The front bumper impacts the upper sloped face and slides upwards. This interaction initiates lifting of the vehicle. If the bumper is relatively weak, the front end starts to crush before any uplift occurs. Then, as the vehicle becomes more nearly parallel with the barrier, the wheel contacts the lower sloped face. Most of the additional lift of the vehicle is caused by the lower sloped face compressing the front suspension. This aids in banking and redirecting the vehicle."

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Postby MG Man » February 14th, 2010, 4:12 pm

norstar2k wrote:
MG Man wrote:
norstar2k wrote:
Stephon. wrote:Is flying over the median a sport now for stupid drivers?

I don't know about that, but I want to know how many more lives have to be lostby mainly the innocent, before they install 'New Jersey' concrete barriers on all medians.


yeah so then they will ricochet off the NJ barrier and slam back into traffic :?
there is a bigger issue here..........

No Sir!!!! At least other cars on the same lane upon seeing the NJ barrier impact could take evasive action, but the poor soul on the opposite doesn't stand a chance.

READ:
"The design of the Jersey barrier was specifically intended to minimize damage and reduce the likelihood of a car crossing into oncoming lanes in the event of a collision. For the more common shallow angle hits, the Jersey barrier is intended to minimize sheet metal damage by allowing the vehicle tires to ride up on the lower sloped face.

For higher impact angles, the Jersey barrier is a multistage barrier. The front bumper impacts the upper sloped face and slides upwards. This interaction initiates lifting of the vehicle. If the bumper is relatively weak, the front end starts to crush before any uplift occurs. Then, as the vehicle becomes more nearly parallel with the barrier, the wheel contacts the lower sloped face. Most of the additional lift of the vehicle is caused by the lower sloped face compressing the front suspension. This aids in banking and redirecting the vehicle."


in the real world where drivers follow too closely, you will still have mayhem
the underlying problem still exists

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Postby TriniVdub » February 14th, 2010, 4:13 pm

Rahtid wrote:
pioneer wrote:is really Q?...


nah is a red skin fella,i eh wanna post his tuner name


why not post it so we could all tell this man that he's ah kant.

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Postby NorStar2K » February 14th, 2010, 4:40 pm

MG Man wrote:
norstar2k wrote:
MG Man wrote:
norstar2k wrote:
Stephon. wrote:Is flying over the median a sport now for stupid drivers?

I don't know about that, but I want to know how many more lives have to be lostby mainly the innocent, before they install 'New Jersey' concrete barriers on all medians.


yeah so then they will ricochet off the NJ barrier and slam back into traffic :?
there is a bigger issue here..........

No Sir!!!! At least other cars on the same lane upon seeing the NJ barrier impact could take evasive action, but the poor soul on the opposite doesn't stand a chance.

READ:
"The design of the Jersey barrier was specifically intended to minimize damage and reduce the likelihood of a car crossing into oncoming lanes in the event of a collision. For the more common shallow angle hits, the Jersey barrier is intended to minimize sheet metal damage by allowing the vehicle tires to ride up on the lower sloped face.

For higher impact angles, the Jersey barrier is a multistage barrier. The front bumper impacts the upper sloped face and slides upwards. This interaction initiates lifting of the vehicle. If the bumper is relatively weak, the front end starts to crush before any uplift occurs. Then, as the vehicle becomes more nearly parallel with the barrier, the wheel contacts the lower sloped face. Most of the additional lift of the vehicle is caused by the lower sloped face compressing the front suspension. This aids in banking and redirecting the vehicle."


in the real world where drivers follow too closely, you will still have mayhem
the underlying problem still exists

MG, real world results have shown more loss of life in a cross over vs same lane, reaction time is virtually zero.

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Postby NorStar2K » February 14th, 2010, 4:43 pm

We can't directly control people's behaviour and the bad choices they make, but by design and engineering we can help reduce the end result.

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Postby Stephon. » February 14th, 2010, 5:24 pm

Computerman wrote:
Stephon. wrote:if you want to control your car then don't drive fast

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Postby Rahtid » February 14th, 2010, 6:07 pm

where is d link to post pics?

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Postby Swisha » February 14th, 2010, 7:48 pm

ABA Trading LTD wrote:The chase village highway ghost has migrated to el socorro :|

I think it trying to get closer to town for the carnival.



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Postby SUPAstarr » February 14th, 2010, 8:39 pm

Anyone else realise the front tyre on the Rover is mounted the wrong way?

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Postby eliteauto » February 14th, 2010, 8:43 pm

^^correct good Sir

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Postby wagon r » February 14th, 2010, 8:56 pm

so.....de rover driver....is his head still intact....esp. lookin at the windscreen...i seeing the airbag...but the top corner... :|

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Postby devrat » February 14th, 2010, 9:12 pm

Halfbreed07 wrote:saw it on my way to town, my friend in the front seat say omg! look at blood, i say girl shhhhhh dais is radiator coolant.


Come nah man :?

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Postby beyond » February 14th, 2010, 9:13 pm

the driver who crossed the median, should be charged for attempted manslaughter along with negligent driving. then spend abut 25 years in jail.

people could have easily died in this ,most avoidable situation.

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Postby Stephon. » February 14th, 2010, 9:30 pm

beyond wrote:the driver who crossed the median, should be charged for attempted manslaughter along with negligent driving. then spend abut 25 years in jail.

people could have easily died in this ,most avoidable situation.

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Postby Monk BANzai » February 14th, 2010, 10:05 pm

Price of DVD's in Arima will go up from next week....that car is the DVD Baron of Arima own...

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Postby SR » February 14th, 2010, 10:07 pm

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:Price of DVD's in Arima will go up from next week....that car is the DVD Baron of Arima own...

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body parts hard to find for this model now

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Postby Monk BANzai » February 14th, 2010, 10:12 pm

^^ after our discussion last week...i concur...

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Postby sss » February 14th, 2010, 10:38 pm

and he is in a well build car in terms of body if that was a japan made it would of been crushed even more

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Postby belalegosi » February 14th, 2010, 10:43 pm

does he know whats crackin?
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Computerman wrote:
Stephon. wrote:if you want to control your car then don't drive fast

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so from your pic I'm guessing you're trying to imply the rover is not at fault?
How tha mc could someone lose control and jump a median AND do so much damage to another car going 80km/h?!
If he was not going excessively fast.. tell meh nah.. how much ppl paying for their liscense these days? :roll:

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Postby SR » February 14th, 2010, 10:50 pm

you dont have to be going 80kph to cause that amount of damage


keep in mind both vehicles were traveling in opposite directions

thus increasing the intensity of the impact


also you dont have to be going 80kph to cross the median as its just a curb and not a barrier

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Postby SR » February 14th, 2010, 10:54 pm

The Jersey barrier was originally developed at Stevens Institute of Technology in Hoboken, New Jersey, United States, under the direction of the New Jersey State Highway Department[1] to divide multiple lanes on a highway. A Jersey barrier stands three feet tall and is made of poured concrete. Their widespread use on the highway has led to many other uses as a general barrier (for instance, during general construction projects or constructing temporary walkways).

The design of the Jersey barrier was specifically intended to minimize damage and reduce the likelihood of a car crossing into oncoming lanes in the event of a collision. For the more common shallow angle hits, the Jersey barrier is intended to minimize sheet metal damage by allowing the vehicle tires to ride up on the lower sloped face.

For higher impact angles, the Jersey barrier is a multistage barrier. The front bumper impacts the upper sloped face and slides upwards. This interaction initiates lifting of the vehicle. If the bumper is relatively weak, the front end starts to crush before any uplift occurs. Then, as the vehicle becomes more nearly parallel with the barrier, the wheel contacts the lower sloped face. Most of the additional lift of the vehicle is caused by the lower sloped face compressing the front suspension. However, wheel side-scrubbing forces provide some additional lift, particularly if the barrier face is rough. Therefore, exposed aggregate and other rough surface finishes should be avoided. Modern vehicles have relatively short distances between the bumper and the wheel; as a result, bumper contact is followed almost immediately by wheel contact.

It is only necessary to lift the vehicle enough to reduce the friction between the tires and the paved surface. This aids in banking and redirecting the vehicle. If the vehicle is lifted too high into the air, it may yaw, pitch, or roll, which can cause the vehicle to roll over when the wheels come in contact with the ground again. Concrete safety shape barriers should be adjacent to a paved surface so that the wheels cannot dig into the soil and cause the vehicle to overturn.

Modern variations include the constant slope barrier, which has one constant slope from the base to the top, and the F-shape barrier. The F-shape is similar to the Jersey barrier in appearance, but has different angles and is much taller. According to Charles F. McDevitt, a structural engineer in the Federal Highway Administration's Office of Safety Research and Development at the Turner-Fairbank Highway Research Center in McLean, Va. the F-shape is thought to be the best current concrete barrier design. It takes its name from a set of tested barriers that were assigned letters as identification. However, the F-shape was not widely adopted as many jurisdictions were well-satisfied with the Jersey shape, which also met the crash-test criteria. In addition, their contractors did not want to change profiles because they had a considerable investment in the forms required to produce Jersey barriers.

The UK equivalent is the concrete step barrier.

The older guard rail barrier system did not prevent traffic from entering oncoming traffic. The first median barriers were used in the mid-1940s on US-99 on the descent from the Tehachapi Mountains in the central valley south of Bakersfield, California. New Jersey first used concrete traffic barriers in 1955. The current shape was first implemented in 1959 as a result not of crash testing, but of police observation of the accident results of previously installed concrete barriers.

Jersey barriers have been used extensively by American forces in Iraq to fortify road-blocks and public infrastructure, along with modern "T" and "L" barriers, much taller variants.

Since 1990, the Canadian province of Ontario has employed a modified version of the Jersey barrier on major freeways. Standing 1.2 metres (4 feet) tall and without internal reinforcement, they are often referred to as Ontario Tall Walls.[2]

Jersey barriers are a popular obstacle for skateboarding and can be found in many modern skateparks.

Jersey barriers were used in the wake of the Oklahoma City bombing and September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks to enforce standoff distances from federal buildings, monuments,[3] the Willis Tower in Chicago, and the Library tower in downtown Los Angeles.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_barrier



the thing is the majority of the installation of this type of barrier locally is done halfway and the barriers move much more than they should on impact

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Postby Cjruckus » February 14th, 2010, 10:56 pm

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Man.. Sucks to be this guy.

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Postby Rooki3 » February 14th, 2010, 11:38 pm

devrat wrote:
Halfbreed07 wrote:saw it on my way to town, my friend in the front seat say omg! look at blood, i say girl shhhhhh dais is radiator coolant.


Come nah man :?


Dais nuh transmission fluid

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Postby mattu » February 14th, 2010, 11:49 pm

errrrrmmmm the rover tire on wrong there

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Postby devrat » February 14th, 2010, 11:50 pm

Rooki3 wrote:
devrat wrote:
Halfbreed07 wrote:saw it on my way to town, my friend in the front seat say omg! look at blood, i say girl shhhhhh dais is radiator coolant.


Come nah man :?


Dais nuh transmission fluid


Exactly... confusing the poor gyul...now she will be thinking that radiator coolant red :lol:

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Re: Accident on hiway after El Socorro(tuner involved)***PIC

Postby TriniVdub » February 15th, 2010, 1:51 am

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hmmm from an interpolation defining the facts of the collision, by deriving an integral with respect to the derivative of the inverse function it can be said that the positioning of the contact patch to the ground's co-efficient was undesirable thus resulting in the loss of stability of the vehicle.


yea ...so in other words excessive speed coupled with a tyre mounted in the incorrect direction could have resulted in this.

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Postby r3iXmann » February 15th, 2010, 1:55 am

BANzai Rastafarai wrote:prolly DJ Q


Q's car is red

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