WTK : Converting a flat house to a 2 storey house

[jsr]

one more thing... what about T&C approval... i live in a housing development.... and i understand that i may have to apply to T&C before starting anything... how long would this take on average for approval... anyway to fast track this?

[SR]

depends on the restrictions for the housing develpoment

you will need t&c approval if you are taking a loan

most people in "pre fab" housing developents usually make adjustments to thier home

and most do not go thru t&c
unfortunalty most of the renovations are also against the law according to t&c

[eurogirl]

If you have an old structure where the pillar does not have steel reinforcements you may have to breakdown the beams and pillars and put steel . If its relatively new its no problem ..

I intend on building like tht as well but where i'm gonna go Ihave to break the beams and pillars coz its not up to mark so I have to replace pillars with steel and reinforce the groundlevel walls before I go up ..

YOU building a house?

Didn't you fail the OSHA test...twice?

actually its NEBOSH diploma and frankly , its ok I faced my demons on it .. at least I kno I tried , WAT have you done lately other than be a mama's boy ?

[Rahtid]

one more thing... what about T&C approval... i live in a housing development.... and i understand that i may have to apply to T&C before starting anything... how long would this take on average for approval... anyway to fast track this?

No scene either,i gotz them thingz locked!!!!

[jsr]

hmm.... you can send me a p.m rahtid... perhaps i can send you some pics of the existing structure

[Rahtid]

pm yuh number,,ill give u a call,,,

[Rahtid]

If you have an old structure where the pillar does not have steel reinforcements you may have to breakdown the beams and pillars and put steel . If its relatively new its no problem ..

I intend on building like tht as well but where i'm gonna go Ihave to break the beams and pillars coz its not up to mark so I have to replace pillars with steel and reinforce the groundlevel walls before I go up ..

YOU building a house?

Didn't you fail the OSHA test...twice?

actually its NEBOSH diploma and frankly , its ok I faced my demons on it .. at least I kno I tried , WAT have you done lately other than be a mama's boy ?

be papa's boy

u still livin in yuh parents house?

[Sumana.00]

If you have an old structure where the pillar does not have steel reinforcements you may have to breakdown the beams and pillars and put steel . If its relatively new its no problem ..

I intend on building like tht as well but where i'm gonna go Ihave to break the beams and pillars coz its not up to mark so I have to replace pillars with steel and reinforce the groundlevel walls before I go up ..

YOU building a house?

Didn't you fail the OSHA test...twice?

actually its NEBOSH diploma and frankly , its ok I faced my demons on it .. at least I kno I tried , WAT have you done lately other than be a mama's boy ?

be papa's boy

roflmao

[Rahtid]

Yes

problem?

and u duz wanna give ppl so much talks?

lol


carry on yute,say what,yuh happy and yuh safe,,,well except for d snakes

[jsr]

here are some pics

[jsr]

reposting this question for more tehnical advice

[hustla_ambition101]

you eh do eeet yet?

[real_d20]

Plain and simple, if you have the foundation for a flat, it cannot and would not support the additional stress/weight of the upper floor. Best best would be to plant "I" beams on the outskirts and interior for stress support and do the decking, then build up top and flush up to the decking below. We have done it.

[SmokeyGTi]

There a lot of factors to consider when doing this such as:
1. Can the existing house foundation take the additional loads?
2. Are the existing walls loadbearing?
3. If no for 1 & 2 above, then you'll have to consider new conc. or
steel columns depending on the type of structure your'e going with.
(I would recommend steel because all you would need is new foundations &
you can start with errection of structure).
4. You can place the new columns at key locations so that you minimise
disruption of the existing ground floor layout.

The way I see it, you'll need to engage the services of a competent Structural Engineer and a good designer as virus stated.

^^wat he said..

[Rahtid]

Just go t/c, find out about your area, what height you can go, what are your setbacks,etc. If you can build it, just do a steel frame over the flat, remove the roof,cast your deck, block up, do new roof, etc.

I am currently doing this for a tuner.

[MG Man]

Plain and simple, if you have the foundation for a flat, it cannot and would not support the additional stress/weight of the upper floor. Best best would be to plant "I" beams on the outskirts and interior for stress support and do the decking, then build up top and flush up to the decking below. We have done it.

best response there

[Rahtid]

Plain and simple, if you have the foundation for a flat, it cannot and would not support the additional stress/weight of the upper floor. Best best would be to plant "I" beams on the outskirts and interior for stress support and do the decking, then build up top and flush up to the decking below. We have done it.

best response there

The steel frame is a completely independent structure on its own, its own foundation, the only connection to the existing house, will be the walls that have to go up to the underside of the beams, so as not to leave a void where the old roof was.

[nick009]

is it more expensive to build a 2 storey house
or a storey and a half with a unfinished basement?

[real_d20]

Plain and simple, if you have the foundation for a flat, it cannot and would not support the additional stress/weight of the upper floor. Best best would be to plant "I" beams on the outskirts and interior for stress support and do the decking, then build up top and flush up to the decking below. We have done it.

best response there

The steel frame is a completely independent structure on its own, its own foundation, the only connection to the existing house, will be the walls that have to go up to the underside of the beams, so as not to leave a void where the old roof was.

Thanks for the extended explanation.. but yeah, that's the general idea. Just did one of these - floated out 4 feet from the existing outside walls, than covered the beams in concrete for a more presentable look. Built three feet above existing ring beam and put stanchions on the inside to alleviate the weight of the floating floor. If the person wants free "downstairs" with no additional "inner" posts, heavier beams would have to be used. (advantage here is you can build over and still live under, lil dusty tho).

However, when we connect both floors, its not noticeable, since like you said, the lower walls are raised to the upper floor and sealed, the staircase can fall anywhere inside to access the upstairs that is feasible according to the existing structure and the outside staircase is easily built and attached (needed for T/C approval i.e. fire escape).

[crazybalhead]

Is "orga pill" a man say dey??? I doubt. My eyes are surely fooling me.

[MG Man]

this is chuna
u know better
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[jsr]

thanks again... i think i better sell the house and build or buy a 2 storey house
it might work out better in the long run

[real_d20]

thanks again... i think i better sell the house and build or buy a 2 storey house
it might work out better in the long run

Truth be told, if its an HDC development house.... foundation on even the flat aint all that strong.. just saying

[jsr]

it is not an HDC development house

[MG Man]

thanks again... i think i better sell the house and build or buy a 2 storey house
it might work out better in the long run

when u ready, gimme a shout
I been thru the good and horribly bad of building your own home so...

[Injun]

Not exactly relevant, but since the idea of unsupported projection over the existing house was raised, take a look at this: http://architecturelinked.com/profiles/ ... stitute-of

To be clear, that projection isn't roof... it's where the exhibits are.