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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 21st, 2024, 6:33 am

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One more step closer to recapturing crimea...
Any day now...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » February 21st, 2024, 7:28 am

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Nice graph, basically shows a huge pause in funding for the last 6-9 months.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 21st, 2024, 7:42 am

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For some of the big brains in here who dislike reading and understanding its probably important to state its predominantly not cash.

For the US it's mostly equipment and in alot of cases its surplus or no longer used stock. Almost all the spend happens in the US benefiting US manufacturing. Up to Oct 31st 2023 only 6% of the US's total Ukraine aid would have been money to purchase weapons and equipment.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 21st, 2024, 11:09 am

"Killed himself!!"

Lol!!!!!

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 21st, 2024, 1:14 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
adnj wrote:Image


For some of the big brains in here who dislike reading and understanding its probably important to state its predominantly not cash.

For the US it's mostly equipment and in alot of cases its surplus or no longer used stock. Almost all the spend happens in the US benefiting US manufacturing. Up to Oct 31st 2023 only 6% of the US's total Ukraine aid would have been money to purchase weapons and equipment.
Big brain here,
U do understand that those people who push to maintain the war in Ukraine, get a portion of those funds from the military industrial complex... They have a vested interest to keep 'aid' flowing in. As the more weapons sell, the more money they get.



And with all that 'aid' its not reversing Russians push, it just soaking up more Ukrainian lives.


The longer this goes on, the less Ukrainians there are, the weaker Ukraine will get and the more emboldened Hungary and Poland would feel to 'occupy' Ukrainian territory citing 'security' reason.



The rebuttal : eu sending more weapons and setting up manufacturing in Ukraine.



The counter: since the previous ship destruction or a hit on belgorod, Russia hit the North, south and west Ukraine. As a reprisal attack.
But also as a demonstration that it is able and willing to strike anywhere in Ukraine territory, to signal that any military expansion could be taken out at will.

Personally, i would wait till any facilties are functional and ribbons cut, the blow it up.





Next items on the agenda: de militarization and de nazification.
With Odessa as a a bonus mission

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby PariaMan » February 21st, 2024, 2:43 pm

You really guzzling the kool-aid

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » February 21st, 2024, 7:06 pm

Almost 1000 Ukrainians unaccounted for in Avdiivka

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 23rd, 2024, 2:55 pm

Russian miliblogger Fighter-bomber confirming Ukrainian claims an A 50 AWACS was shot down. Leaves Russia with one now
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 24th, 2024, 6:47 pm

Today marks two years of Putin's War.
Granted it started much earlier with the green men and seizure of Crimea.

So much wasted men, money, material and good will. Russia who only hosted the WC in 2018 and Olympics in 2014 now a pariah to the West.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » February 24th, 2024, 7:52 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Today marks two years of Putin's War.
Granted it started much earlier with the green men and seizure of Crimea.

So much wasted men, money, material and good will. Russia who only hosted the WC in 2018 and Olympics in 2014 now a pariah to the West.

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For now, this can go either way for Russia and depending on who wins the US election.

I'll be honest, as despicable as Russia has been, the west needs to give them an opportunity to make things right.

If we (collective west) pushes Russia further away that only increases their motivation to arm up and militarise......I mean have we learnt nothing from WW2.

Pushing Russia towards alignment with China only means that when China lashes out to control the Pacific, then an emboldened Russia can try for the Baltics or even Poland.

There is a legit argument that Russia will do this anyway so the west should try to help Ukraine win....... however, that's not going well is it?

And Ukrainians are eventually going to grow frustrated and blame the west for using them.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » February 24th, 2024, 9:41 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Today marks two years of Putin's War.
Granted it started much earlier with the green men and seizure of Crimea.

So much wasted men, money, material and good will. Russia who only hosted the WC in 2018 and Olympics in 2014 now a pariah to the West.

h_57506019.jpg


For now, this can go either way for Russia and depending on who wins the US election.

I'll be honest, as despicable as Russia has been, the west needs to give them an opportunity to make things right.

If we (collective west) pushes Russia further away that only increases their motivation to arm up and militarise......I mean have we learnt nothing from WW2.

Pushing Russia towards alignment with China only means that when China lashes out to control the Pacific, then an emboldened Russia can try for the Baltics or even Poland.

There is a legit argument that Russia will do this anyway so the west should try to help Ukraine win....... however, that's not going well is it?

And Ukrainians are eventually going to grow frustrated and blame the west for using them.


Pushing Russia? Or is China and Russia looking for a way to diminish US influence?

Russia and China have been aligning since 2014. They have an informal agreement to coordinate their diplomatic and economic actions and to build an alliance against the United States. They share many foreign policy objectives, including a common view of the US-dominated international system as problematic.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 25th, 2024, 10:23 am

Russia is arming to the teeth because of continual threat from the collective west.
It sees no need or benefit to try to assimilate into the collective west any more.
They would be more the happy to increase trade back to or even more than before the sanctions, but it has no NEED to anymore.



When Brazil mouthed off Israel in gaza, it must be taken with the context that it is s big part of brics. South Africa put Israel in court, China has been vehemently advocating for the right of Palestinians to self determination, russia is active in Syria along its shared border with Israel and hosting the Palestinian resistance, notably negating the PA which is reputed to bow to the whims of Israel.

It shows that the rest of the world does not accede power to the collective west as it did before and are more than willing to stand.



Even India, who sees itself on par with Europe, did not feel the need to stop imports of Russian petroleum. And has not suffered for it neither.


The failure of the west to have significant members of the 'prosperity guardian' and the lack of conformity to the west African ECOWAS, shows the subsidence of influence America and influence in 3rd world.





The world hss changed.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » February 25th, 2024, 11:29 am

The USA will struggle to maintain the world order they created after WW2....and let's be honest, NATO and the US have really encroached on China and Russia.

It didn't have to be this way, but I understand why they did it. However, the rise of Asia means they probably won't be able to dominate and isolationism might be the best bet for world peace.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 25th, 2024, 1:18 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:The USA will struggle to maintain the world order they created after WW2....and let's be honest, NATO and the US have really encroached on China and Russia.

It didn't have to be this way, but I understand why they did it. However, the rise of Asia means they probably won't be able to dominate and isolationism might be the best bet for world peace.
Every NATO country is an independent nation with its own agency. Russia doesn't get to dictate whether Poland, Estonia or Latvia join NATO. They all did it on their own accord.

Wrt China they just needs to stop their quiet imperialism. If the Palestinian territories get a right to self determination as per China this week then I guess they should have no issue with Xinjiang, Tibet or Taiwan also having that same right.

The countries tuner socialists salivate for are the same things they accuse america of. Socialist tuners just like that Kool aid better for whatever reason.

At the end of the day western hegemony is far superior to whatever the East offers.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 25th, 2024, 5:10 pm

eVeRy NaTo CoUnTrY iS iNdEnDeNt.
Lol.

They all in recession cause of following America orders.... But didn't have to.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » February 26th, 2024, 7:34 am

sMASH wrote:eVeRy NaTo CoUnTrY iS iNdEnDeNt.
Lol.

They all in recession cause of following America orders.... But didn't have to.
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 26th, 2024, 9:48 am

Pro Russia and Pro Hamas forum in Moscow.
Smash proabably jizzed himself.

Jackson Hinkle and Syrian Girl in one place as well oui

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » February 26th, 2024, 1:10 pm

syrian girl looking real different there.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Bad Dog » February 26th, 2024, 4:10 pm

Using Ukraine to Fight Russia.
The CIA’s Secret Ten-Year War on Russia… From Within Ukraine!
The New York Times came out with a bombshell article on Sunday detailing the past ten years of CIA active warfare from within Ukraine against Russia. From building 12 CIA bases within the country, to instructing on sabotage inside Russia to providing targeting intelligence BEFORE the 2022 Russian military operation in Ukraine. And… much of the operation was kept secret from then-President Trump!
https://www.antiwar.com/blog/2024/02/26 ... n-ukraine/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Habit7 » February 26th, 2024, 4:33 pm

He should have found himself in Wyoming, Montana or the Dakotas. Russian can’t risk an assassination on US soil.


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 26th, 2024, 9:29 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:eVeRy NaTo CoUnTrY iS iNdEnDeNt.
Lol.

They all in recession cause of following America orders.... But didn't have to.
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*Soooo let's funnel more funds to elenski... We can start the spring offensive this spring.. It will work this time..
We got him on the ropes, right where we want him... Time to give em the ole 1, 2..*

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 26th, 2024, 9:31 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Pro Russia and Pro Hamas forum in Moscow.
Smash proabably jizzed himself.

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Let's stop killing indigenous populations..that's what im seeing

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Habit7 » February 26th, 2024, 9:35 pm

sMASH wrote:Let's stop killing indigenous populations..that's what im seeing

Yes. Like Jews.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 26th, 2024, 9:36 pm

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Pro Russia and Pro Hamas forum in Moscow.
Smash proabably jizzed himself.

Jackson Hinkle and Syrian Girl in one place as well oui

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Let's stop killing indigenous populations..that's what im seeing
Wait till you find out what Russia does to it's indigenous people and how they are viewed legally.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » February 26th, 2024, 10:14 pm

Of course Arabs are "indigenous" to the Middle Eastern lands.

The first people who called themselves Arabs were the elite of the early Caliphate. They inhabited new towns founded by Muslims across the Middle East.

Arabs date back to the 7th century CE. Jews didn't even leave Egypt until the 13th century BCE, during the time of Ramses II. That was only 2000 years earlier. Wait... what?

Well, Arabs cleared the land and got some goats, so now they have squatters' rights. Rubber slipper Trinis have to respect that.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » February 27th, 2024, 9:43 am

Yesterday was a pretty bad day for western systems in Ukraine.

Videos of Russians destroying a Norwegian NASAMs Launcher, Swedish Archer SPH, Danish Caesar SPH and no vid of destruction but vid of the aftermath of a destroyed M1A1.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » February 27th, 2024, 4:10 pm

Very very interesting interview with Lex and Tucker.


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » February 28th, 2024, 3:57 am

adnj wrote:Of course Arabs are "indigenous" to the Middle Eastern lands.

The first people who called themselves Arabs were the elite of the early Caliphate. They inhabited new towns founded by Muslims across the Middle East.

Arabs date back to the 7th century CE. Jews didn't even leave Egypt until the 13th century BCE, during the time of Ramses II. That was only 2000 years earlier. Wait... what?

Well, Arabs cleared the land and got some goats, so now they have squatters' rights. Rubber slipper Trinis have to respect that.
Go back further to Neanderthal and cro magnon days... U will see revelations.

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