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Duane we all know the bars are gonna be a breeding ground no one is gonna be wearing any masks in there so let's see how this goesDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:Waiting for the Israel practical reference to become a reality, their population was mostly sinopharm and we know how that turned outadnj wrote:Check again.hover11 wrote:This vaccine does not prevent you from the harsh effects of delta variant even death they fully well know that. As most of the population was inoculated with Sinopharm
Vaccinated but not wearing masks and not social distancing
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/8/2 ... -despite-v
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:eitech wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:eitech wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Delta fatalities were not vaccinated
One week after the Ministry of Health refused to divulge the vaccination status of the country’s two Delta fatalities, the Chief Medical Officer, Dr Roshan Parasram, has confirmed that they were unvaccinated. His confirmation came during Monday’s virtual press conference.
During last Monday’s virtual press conference, the Ministry’s technical director of the Epidemiology Unit Dr Avery Hinds reserved comment on the vaccination status of the fatalities due to patient confidentiality.
All World Health Organisation (WHO) approved COVID-19 vaccines have been proven safe and effective against the dealer and more transmissible Delta variant.
While there are reports of two people allegedly succumbing to COVID-19 despite being fully vaccinated, Dr Parasram reiterated the sentiments expressed by the Prime Minister and Minister of Health on Saturday.
“It’s a matter of focusing on the exception- as I said, 98 per cent of the people who die from COVID in Trinidad and Tobago has been not fully vaccinated,” he said.
He noted that while the two fatalities reported were COVID-19 positive, the elderly gentleman died from a heart attack.
https://www.cnc3.co.tt/delta-fatalities ... accinated/
How did the media verify their status before carrying the story?
I’m not sure what you’re asking.
The media reported on what the CMO stated.
Na what is unclear is if this story is the same as the most recent deaths that was carried in the news where it stated that they were both fully vaccinated
It didn't suggest that.
The article is about two deaths from the Delta variant.
hover11 wrote:Waiting for the Israel practical reference to become a reality, their population was mostly sinopharm and we know how that turned outadnj wrote:Check again.hover11 wrote:This vaccine does not prevent you from the harsh effects of delta variant even death they fully well know that. As most of the population was inoculated with Sinopharm
They were both working in the debe market, high traffic area with little to no sanitization , nevertheless very unfortunatePariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
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hover11 wrote:They were both working in the debe market, high traffic area with little to no sanitization , nevertheless very unfortunatePariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
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drchaos wrote:He said, “Everyone that dies and being Covid-positive at the time of death doesn’t necessarily die of Covid. They are considered having Covid. And that has been our national policy for stating in terms of deaths that come to us. Once you are positive at the time of death, we count you as a Covid death, whether it is with Covid or of Covid.
So a covid death may not be a covid death? OMG
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... ium=social
eitech wrote:hover11 wrote:They were both working in the debe market, high traffic area with little to no sanitization , nevertheless very unfortunatePariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
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So this was the other case.
drchaos wrote:He said, “Everyone that dies and being Covid-positive at the time of death doesn’t necessarily die of Covid. They are considered having Covid. And that has been our national policy for stating in terms of deaths that come to us. Once you are positive at the time of death, we count you as a Covid death, whether it is with Covid or of Covid.
So a covid death may not be a covid death? OMG
https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... ium=social
sMASH wrote:Just trumping up covid death numbers to push their narrative.
*covee deadly*
hover11 wrote:They were both working in the debe market, high traffic area with little to no sanitization , nevertheless very unfortunatePariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
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sMASH wrote:Just trumping up covid death numbers to push their narrative.
*covee deadly*
sMASH wrote:No mention of underlying.
Just thst once u had covid, ur death goes under the covid numbers to puff it up, And ur Desth certificate says dog bite.
Big bad babboo covid death number.
Hogwash.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:No mention of underlying.
Just thst once u had covid, ur death goes under the covid numbers to puff it up, And ur Desth certificate says dog bite.
Big bad babboo covid death number.
Hogwash.
That's not how it works.
Read the PDF or Google it yourself.
If someone has cancer and is receiving chemo but their body can't take it, they end up in HDU with an infection and eventually go into septic shock resulting in heart failure and death - the underlying cause of death is Cancer, not "heart attack"
Manner, intermediate cause and underlying cause are listed if relevant. If not completed by the coroner or medical examiner, the intermediate and underlying cause will not be available.Dizzy28 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:No mention of underlying.
Just thst once u had covid, ur death goes under the covid numbers to puff it up, And ur Desth certificate says dog bite.
Big bad babboo covid death number.
Hogwash.
That's not how it works.
Read the PDF or Google it yourself.
If someone has cancer and is receiving chemo but their body can't take it, they end up in HDU with an infection and eventually go into septic shock resulting in heart failure and death - the underlying cause of death is Cancer, not "heart attack"
I have never seen a death certificate with a category called underlying cause.
Under CoD they list one or more (Heart Attack is not a CoD btw)
I am amazed that once you have covid and die from any unrelated cause you are defined as a covid death and it is placed on the death certificate , imagine yesterday I saw a death certificate of a 29 year old ,died from covid and obesity as stated on the death certificatedrchaos wrote:Covid is the most deadly disease in the world when you change definition of what a covid death is.
Forget Covid ... I'am now terrified by definitions!
PariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
If they took the vaccine and still died like the father and the son would you have still called them idiotsFrankChag wrote:At least take the vaccine for your children
These idiots left 4 young children to suffer.
Totally avoidable deathsPariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
It's only the most deadly in places with high prevalence of infection and low vaccine uptake.drchaos wrote:Covid is the most deadly disease in the world when you change definition of what a covid death is.
Forget Covid ... I'am now terrified by definitions!
hover11 wrote:I am amazed that once you have covid and die from any unrelated cause you are defined as a covid death and it is placed on the death certificate , imagine yesterday I saw a death certificate of a 29 year old ,died from covid and obesity as stated on the death certificatedrchaos wrote:Covid is the most deadly disease in the world when you change definition of what a covid death is.
Forget Covid ... I'am now terrified by definitions!
hover11 wrote:If they took the vaccine and still died like the father and the son would you have still called them idiotsFrankChag wrote:At least take the vaccine for your children
These idiots left 4 young children to suffer.
Totally avoidable deathsPariaMan wrote:Dennis and Reshma Lalchan
DIED WEEKS APART: Husband and wife Dennis and Reshma Lalchan, both 43, contracted the Covid virus a month ago and died two weeks apart. The couple left behind four children.
After his wife died from the Covid virus in September, Dennis Lalchan was determined to fight to stay alive for his four children.
But his body failed and Lalchan was moved to the intensive care unit at the Couva Hospital and Multi Training Facility, where he died last week Thursday, two weeks after his wife, Reshma.
They were both 43 years old.
The Lalchans have left behind three daughters and a son—ages 17, 16, 14 and eight. And they would never know that their first born received his Caribbean Secondary Education Certificate (CSEC) results last Friday, obtaining full passes.
The couple, who lived at Gandhi Village, Debe, were not yet vaccinated and had no comorbidities, relatives said.
And relatives are uncertain how the Lalchans may have contracted the virus. In a telephone interview with a relative yesterday, the Express was told the couple began feeling unwell a month ago and visited a private medical practitioner. “They were both showing symptoms of the virus and went to a private doctor. This doctor advised that they go to the public hospital for treatment. The ambulance was contacted and by the time they got back to their home in Debe the ambulance was there waiting for them,” she said.
The Lalchans were vendors at the Debe market.
The relative said the couple were taken to the Augustus Long Hospital in Pointe-a-Pierre. Days later, Dennis was transferred to the UWI Debe Campus step-down facility, but had to be taken back to Augustus Long when his condition worsened.
By this time, she said, Reshma was admitted to the hospital’s intensive care unit.
“But then Dennis required a ventilator and he had to go to Couva as he needed to be admitted to the ICU and there were no beds in Augustus Long. So he was in the ICU at Couva and his wife was in the ICU at Augustus Long,” she said.
Childhood sweethearts
Reshma lost her battle with the Covid virus on September 30.
Relatives said a decision was taken to inform Dennis of his wife’s passing. “That gave him the strength to fight for his children. He could not leave them alone. He spoke with us on October 1 in a video call and promised to come home to care for his children. That afternoon he said he was going to take all the treatment and fight for his life. But soon after he went in a coma and never regained consciousness,” the relative said.
Dennis was pronounced dead last week Thursday—a week after his wife was laid to rest.
He was described as a hard-working and dedicated husband and father. Dennis and Reshma were childhood sweethearts, a relative said. “They lived next door to each other and were always very close as children. The parents would joke and say they will get married when they grow up. So as they grew older they fell in love and got married and had children together. They even became market vendors together and were very happy. And in the end, they got sick together and died together,” a relative said.
Relatives are now coming together to care for the four orphaned children.
Dennis Lalchan will be laid to rest later this week.
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