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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 9th, 2024, 12:39 pm

matr1x wrote:
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matr1x wrote:A y ceasefire is chance for hamas to regroup and re-arm. Isreal cannot take that chance.


Hamas spent over a year planning October 7th. Think how much money 5000 rockets cost and arms and ammunition. Let's not forget paragliding. And trucks.

All that sweet aid money went to buying that. In fact it's time to investigate all the Palestinian charities as they directly funded the terrorist attack. And then charge the donors.
Any evidence for that last claim?


Most terrorist organizations used money from donors. And charities that are used as money laundering are not properly monitored.

Also, with those logistics of that attack, the money didn't just fall out of the sky.

Say a rocket by hamas cost 200 dollars (from last estimate) multiply by 5000 (only used in attack) equals a million USD
So you have no evidence. Just speculation.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 9th, 2024, 1:01 pm

Speculation based on pattern of behavior and basic math.

It has a better foundation that the ridiculous claims of apartheid and genocide.

My favorite are the fake AI images pro Palestinian groups trying to pass off and photos

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 9th, 2024, 1:12 pm

matr1x wrote:Speculation based on pattern of behavior and basic math.

It has a better foundation that the ridiculous claims of apartheid and genocide.

My favorite are the fake AI images pro Palestinian groups trying to pass off and photos
What you on about 'Fake AI images'?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 9th, 2024, 1:51 pm

ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Speculation based on pattern of behavior and basic math.

It has a better foundation that the ridiculous claims of apartheid and genocide.

My favorite are the fake AI images pro Palestinian groups trying to pass off and photos
What you on about 'Fake AI images'?



They been flooding social media with them

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 9th, 2024, 2:09 pm

matr1x wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Speculation based on pattern of behavior and basic math.

It has a better foundation that the ridiculous claims of apartheid and genocide.

My favorite are the fake AI images pro Palestinian groups trying to pass off and photos
What you on about 'Fake AI images'?



They been flooding social media with them
All of social media is filled with AI-generated nonsense at this point. Do you have any actual evidence that serious pro-Palestine activists are trying to pass them off as real?

Cause all I've seen are very real images of the dead on both sides of this war

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 9th, 2024, 4:37 pm

matr1x wrote:First up, isreali people are the ones indigenous to the land. They have every right to be there. Their faith is also connected to the land so bringing back those family lines displaced over the generations is absolutely fair.

The Palestinian people are evil by their very nature. They want all the land. They allies over the years included the nazis who were exterminating jews and now Iran who definitely wants extermination of jews. They are so sheit that even fellow Muslim countries don't want their refugees.

The rape cases are the worst. Hamas is not separate from the Palestinians. When the October 7th attack happened, they themselves were proudly showing the attack and parading naked and subsequently rape of victims and even murder.

Isreal has a duty to end hamas, and if the Palestinians want to get in their way, they can get the smoke. The Palestinians chose this path, and now they get to walk it.
Is this a fake account to intentionally rile up sentiment, then use it as stats to preach 'growing anti semitism'?

Bai,, rock so...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 9th, 2024, 4:40 pm

matr1x wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
ed360123 wrote:Saudi Arabia and allies spent years trying to do that and it didn't work. So good luck with that again.



You are right, it's a systemic problem. Eliminating Iran is a big step. Followed by hezbolla and finally hamas. They.wanted a war, and it's.time the west give them one.

I never said it was going to be easy. Sanctions will only work if there is.force to back it up.

Most important is people to back off Israel. They are doing important work and it's critical to support them. They taking out hamas and hezbolla, will provide less regional support for the houthis
Why not just return the zionists bakc to europe and America,, since they most have dual citizenship anyways.
And let the indigenous population keep their lands and leave the arab world to the arabs.


That seems more logical, simpler, just and less bloody.

Win win win win.
The most unhelpful rhetoric that will keep Palestinians where they are is the reluctance to accept the Israelis are there to stay.
Soooo the western colonizers should continue to slaughter the indigenous population to occupy their land.

Sometimes the middle ground is not the answer.
How you liking the not middle ground right now? I'm sure the 2mn Gazans are thrilled with how things are going.

Diplomacy is the only solution since the Arabs will never defeat the Israelis
Arabs can crush Zionists anytime, money at play under US & UK orders.

If Zionists think they bad, try playing games with Saudi nah



Are you high?
Arab leaders are scum... Its how they groveled for western favor bsck in the day.



Real Muslims hsve no faith in them.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 9th, 2024, 4:59 pm

sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:

You are right, it's a systemic problem. Eliminating Iran is a big step. Followed by hezbolla and finally hamas. They.wanted a war, and it's.time the west give them one.

I never said it was going to be easy. Sanctions will only work if there is.force to back it up.

Most important is people to back off Israel. They are doing important work and it's critical to support them. They taking out hamas and hezbolla, will provide less regional support for the houthis
Why not just return the zionists bakc to europe and America,, since they most have dual citizenship anyways.
And let the indigenous population keep their lands and leave the arab world to the arabs.


That seems more logical, simpler, just and less bloody.

Win win win win.
The most unhelpful rhetoric that will keep Palestinians where they are is the reluctance to accept the Israelis are there to stay.
Soooo the western colonizers should continue to slaughter the indigenous population to occupy their land.

Sometimes the middle ground is not the answer.
How you liking the not middle ground right now? I'm sure the 2mn Gazans are thrilled with how things are going.

Diplomacy is the only solution since the Arabs will never defeat the Israelis
Arabs can crush Zionists anytime, money at play under US & UK orders.

If Zionists think they bad, try playing games with Saudi nah



Are you high?
Arab leaders are scum... Its how they groveled for western favor bsck in the day.



Real Muslims hsve no faith in them.

Except Muslims especially here are supporting hamas, a terrorist organization.

Isreal is educating them right now.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 7:06 am

matr1x wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Why not just return the zionists bakc to europe and America,, since they most have dual citizenship anyways.
And let the indigenous population keep their lands and leave the arab world to the arabs.


That seems more logical, simpler, just and less bloody.

Win win win win.
The most unhelpful rhetoric that will keep Palestinians where they are is the reluctance to accept the Israelis are there to stay.
Soooo the western colonizers should continue to slaughter the indigenous population to occupy their land.

Sometimes the middle ground is not the answer.
How you liking the not middle ground right now? I'm sure the 2mn Gazans are thrilled with how things are going.

Diplomacy is the only solution since the Arabs will never defeat the Israelis
Arabs can crush Zionists anytime, money at play under US & UK orders.

If Zionists think they bad, try playing games with Saudi nah



Are you high?
Arab leaders are scum... Its how they groveled for western favor bsck in the day.



Real Muslims hsve no faith in them.

Except Muslims especially here are supporting hamas, a terrorist organization.

Isreal is educating them right now.
Good people support hamas. Egg sucker's support Israel

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 7:08 am

Hamas released that Isreal bombed and killed another 4 Israeli hostages.
Hamas is trying to keep them alive, and Israel is secretly trying to kill them off..
Israel is evil

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » March 10th, 2024, 8:38 am

sMASH wrote:Hamas released that Isreal bombed and killed another 4 Israeli hostages.
Hamas is trying to keep them alive, and Israel is secretly trying to kill them off..
Israel is evil
You clealry copied this from somewhere and pasted this here because no way you spelled Israel correctly twice on your own.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 11:38 am

sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
sMASH wrote:
matr1x wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The most unhelpful rhetoric that will keep Palestinians where they are is the reluctance to accept the Israelis are there to stay.
Soooo the western colonizers should continue to slaughter the indigenous population to occupy their land.

Sometimes the middle ground is not the answer.
How you liking the not middle ground right now? I'm sure the 2mn Gazans are thrilled with how things are going.

Diplomacy is the only solution since the Arabs will never defeat the Israelis
Arabs can crush Zionists anytime, money at play under US & UK orders.

If Zionists think they bad, try playing games with Saudi nah



Are you high?
Arab leaders are scum... Its how they groveled for western favor bsck in the day.



Real Muslims hsve no faith in them.

Except Muslims especially here are supporting hamas, a terrorist organization.

Isreal is educating them right now.
Good people support hamas. Egg sucker's support Israel



Have you lost your mind?
Hamas is an actual terrorist organization. I mean if kidnapping ppl, raping women and kids is your thing then you do you.

Until then, Isreal needs to do what they need to do. Palestinians support of hamas, so they are not victims.

I see some dumb mosques flying Palestinian flags. If they like them so much, why don't they join them?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 12:50 pm

Zionism = terrorism

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 1:10 pm

Palestinian =hamas= terrorism


There are no innocent victims there

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 10th, 2024, 1:33 pm

matr1x wrote:Palestinian =hamas= terrorism


There are no innocent victims there
Nearly half of Gaza is children. There are absolutely innocent victims here.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 2:28 pm

ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Palestinian =hamas= terrorism


There are no innocent victims there
Nearly half of Gaza is children. There are absolutely innocent victims here.



If you are old enough to throw a rock you are old enough to hurl a Grenade. Isreal has to balance things in their favor. I mean no one wants children hurt, but hamas is hiding behind kids and women to launch rockets and Isreal is rightfully showing hamas its a fool strategy.

Besides, hamas don't care about kids. Why we are condemning Isreal?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 10th, 2024, 2:39 pm

matr1x wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Palestinian =hamas= terrorism


There are no innocent victims there
Nearly half of Gaza is children. There are absolutely innocent victims here.



If you are old enough to throw a rock you are old enough to hurl a Grenade. Isreal has to balance things in their favor. I mean no one wants children hurt, but hamas is hiding behind kids and women to launch rockets and Isreal is rightfully showing hamas its a fool strategy.

Besides, hamas don't care about kids. Why we are condemning Isreal?
You saying "no one wants children hurt" while also saying there are "no innocent victims". Do you not see how that is contradictory?

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 3:17 pm

matr1x wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Palestinian =hamas= terrorism


There are no innocent victims there
Nearly half of Gaza is children. There are absolutely innocent victims here.



If you are old enough to throw a rock you are old enough to hurl a Grenade. Isreal has to balance things in their favor. I mean no one wants children hurt, but hamas is hiding behind kids and women to launch rockets and Isreal is rightfully showing hamas its a fool strategy.

Besides, hamas don't care about kids. Why we are condemning Isreal?
Old enough to go back to Europe and visit their grandparents

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 3:48 pm

ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:Palestinian =hamas= terrorism


There are no innocent victims there
Nearly half of Gaza is children. There are absolutely innocent victims here.



If you are old enough to throw a rock you are old enough to hurl a Grenade. Isreal has to balance things in their favor. I mean no one wants children hurt, but hamas is hiding behind kids and women to launch rockets and Isreal is rightfully showing hamas its a fool strategy.

Besides, hamas don't care about kids. Why we are condemning Isreal?
You saying "no one wants children hurt" while also saying there are "no innocent victims". Do you not see how that is contradictory?



Welcome to war based on religion. That is a contradiction in itself. Forget mine.

How about coming murder and rape and then want to cry and whine for ceasefire.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 4:01 pm

Even if you are 12 and threw rocks, I do not consider you an innocent victim. Your parents should have raised you better

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 4:49 pm

Naziism = zionism = terrorism

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 5:17 pm

You know Palestinians were colluding with the nazis during world War 2 right?


God.damn you are.stupid

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 10th, 2024, 5:27 pm

matr1x wrote:You know Palestinians were colluding with the nazis during world War 2 right?


God.damn you are.stupid
Do you have a link for that? Not seeing anything on Google.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 6:12 pm

ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:You know Palestinians were colluding with the nazis during world War 2 right?


God.damn you are.stupid
Do you have a link for that? Not seeing anything on Google.
He talking about havarra (spell) agreement


Anyway, October 7th atrocities is by idf... Not hamas
https://youtu.be/8-jhoAs_O-g?si=ONrmMRKcuOcMiggF

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » March 10th, 2024, 6:48 pm

sMASH wrote:Naziism = zionism = terrorism
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem looked rather chummy with the mustachioed one when they met in 1941.

Smash could only make claims Zionism is Nazism however history shows the Arabs were the actual Nazis
Screenshot_20240310-184543.jpg

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » March 10th, 2024, 7:14 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Naziism = zionism = terrorism
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem looked rather chummy with the mustachioed one when they met in 1941.

Smash could only make claims Zionism is Nazism however history shows the Arabs were the actual Nazis Screenshot_20240310-184543.jpg


https://time.com/4084301/hitler-grand-mufi-1941/
This is the full story to go with the Times headline
The Mufti wanted to lead a revolt across the Arab world to fight colonialism as well as preventing Palestine from becoming a Jewish home. The genocide of the Jews started six months prior to his meeting and he couldn't give two chits about Jews in Europe but was concerned with his homeland and the Arab world. Not much different from people who today say focus on Trinidad and what goes on in the middle east is none of our business and still do business with Israeli companies like the TTDF does
Decide for yourself weather the Mufti was right, wrong or indifferent.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » March 10th, 2024, 7:17 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Naziism = zionism = terrorism
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem looked rather chummy with the mustachioed one when they met in 1941.

Smash could only make claims Zionism is Nazism however history shows the Arabs were the actual Nazis
Screenshot_20240310-184543.jpg
The Grand Mufti wasn't exactly voted in by Palestinians. He was put there by the British high commission, in a role that was created by, again, the British.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » March 10th, 2024, 7:21 pm

ed360123 wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Naziism = zionism = terrorism
Grand Mufti of Jerusalem looked rather chummy with the mustachioed one when they met in 1941.

Smash could only make claims Zionism is Nazism however history shows the Arabs were the actual Nazis
Screenshot_20240310-184543.jpg
The Grand Mufti wasn't exactly voted in by Palestinians. He was put there by the British high commission, in a role that was created by, again, the British.
Catholics don't vote for the Pope but he is thier leader.

Also the position remains today and is appointed by the Palestinian Authority so clealry it's one they like.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby matr1x » March 10th, 2024, 7:25 pm

sMASH wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
matr1x wrote:You know Palestinians were colluding with the nazis during world War 2 right?


God.damn you are.stupid
Do you have a link for that? Not seeing anything on Google.
He talking about havarra (spell) agreement


Anyway, October 7th atrocities is by idf... Not hamas
https://youtu.be/8-jhoAs_O-g?si=ONrmMRKcuOcMiggF



Well we must have missed some magical moment. Because hamas launched the attack when the idf was on stand down. Thats like a woman get raped, and you saying she rape the man

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » March 10th, 2024, 8:31 pm

Europeans shooting semites to steal their land
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