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Which major party will you be voting for in G.E. 2015?

Poll ended at April 9th, 2014, 7:52 pm

People's National Movement
100
26%
People's Partnership
205
53%
Independent Liberal Party
7
2%
Neither/Abstain
76
20%
 
Total votes: 388

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby eyeballz » February 20th, 2015, 10:17 am

UML I don't know who you are. I don't know what's your point. If you are looking for payment for your posts, I can tell you I don't have more money than Bharath. But what I do have are a very particular set of trolling skills, skills I have acquired over a very long time watching you and pioneer's posts. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let your race dividing talks stop now, that'll be the end of it. I will not troll you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will troll your every post, I will find your girl, and I will lurbz her.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby UML » February 20th, 2015, 8:21 pm

UML wrote:
BRZ wrote:
UML wrote:The candidates for the Sando East and Sando West didnt take but but Rowley did?

Where Al Rawi? How he not defending Rowley?


Where Jack? Dr. Winford James? Roget? Ramesh? Martin Daly? Reginald Dumas? etc?

you really don't know whats amock in the party huh?

wait and see !


Farther Harvey, Archbishop Harris?

All these outspoken ppl who was most silent while the PNM was raping the Treasury with Calder Hart!!!


Wait nah is dis bachannal u were referring to?!!!!

I humbly apologise for being a small man sheep

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Well yes. I waiting for the media coverage. Big Balisier fight. I hear one Syrian financier turn over the table and kick way his chair and ask how he getting his millions back if certain people cannot keep their c*ck in their pants. Understood he had to be physically restrained, so upset was he to face the 'middle eastern association' he represents.

Another familiar talkative member apparently left the meeting in disgust after giving the same 'winer boy' a piece of his mind. Word is the phone lines burning up as key players struggle to keep a lid on it and out of the public domain.

Winer boy has been gagged and told to shut up or they will pull the plug on the whole house of cards.

Emergency meeting scheduled.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby UML » February 21st, 2015, 8:22 pm

No Penny no vote! Saturday, February 21 2015

Things turned ugly on Thursday night in Arima, as PNM party group executives met at the constituency office, Eastern Main Road.

“No Penny No vote!” was the cry of one man, who

committee

screening

right to select the candidate of their choice for this year’s general election.

Members are claiming that because Mrs Pennelope Beckles-Robinson

the leadership at the last internal election, she is being victimised. They are also claiming that she was not given a fair screening on February 4 at Balisier House.

According to the records of the Arima Constituency, Robinson received the nod of approval from 30 groups, while Anthony Garcia, who eventually won the screening, got only three party groups nominating him. Ian Forde received two nominations.

As the representative for each party group came forward to state their position on whether they would be supporting Anthony Garcia (who is also the Deputy mayor of Arima), tensions further flared as just about everyone stated their displeasure of Garcia’s nomination and the decision of the screening committee to disregard the nominations.

Former Vice Chairman of the Arima executive, John Charles, stated that his party group was one of the three that nominated Garcia. Before he could finish making any further comments, members started

there! Traitor! Look the snake in de balisier” said a man who shouted from the back of the room.

Anthony Garcia (who was absent at the meeting) stated his confidence in regaining the Arima seat after he was officially elected as the candidate of choice, but the battle may be a lot harder than he expects as support won’t be forthcoming for sure from Calvary, Arima. Christo Adonis said, “They (screening committee) believe that we can’t think for ourselves. They ask us to nominate someone, and then disregard it. I am speaking for myself and my party group, not the First People. We control Calvary and when the piper plays the tune, the people dance.

Vice Chairman of the Arima constituency Paula Mark said, “ It seems as though the decision to choose Anthony Garcia was already made long before the date of the Arima candidacy screening. It also seems as though the screening committee was a case of Team Penny vs Team Rowley. “I think it is necessary for me to call out the names of those who are on the screening committee. Faris Al-Rawi, Marlene Mc Donald, Colm Imbert, Camille

Forde, Joan Yuille-Williams , Rohan Sinanan, Foster Cummings and Irene Hinds. These were the people who screened Penny, and the one who won, was on Team Rowley.

One man even referenced, that in the 2010 general election year, Mrs Beckles-Robinson was also rejected, and instead, Mrs Laura Lezama Lee Sing was given the go ahead. He said, “No disrespect to anyone, but they trade a thoroughbred for a donkey the last time. They lost then, and they doing it again. No Penny! No Vote! Mrs Lezama was in attendance at the meeting at the time and just looked on as the meeting continued to deteriorate into further cross-talk, accusations and an eventual walkout by some members, including Mrs. Lezama Lee Sing and councillors.

A senior official of the PNM stated that if the Arima executive continued with their course of action by campaigning against the selected candidate, the party’s constitution clearly states that their actions are grounds for expulsion from the political organisation.

In a statement to the media after the selection of Anthony Garcia on February 4, PNM General Secretary, Ashton Ford defended the selection of Garcia for the post. “Garcia has a proven track record and was our lone councillor in the Arima Borough Corporation in our darkest hours between 2010 and 2013. He is now the deputy mayor of Arima” Ford said.

Attempts to reach Mrs Beckles Robinson for a comment were unsuccessful.
http://www.newsday.co.tt/news/0,207218.html


Rowley just doing what Manning did to him. He learnt from the best. Now Rowley is the leader. Rowley did say this is his last year as Opposition Leader.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby rfari » February 21st, 2015, 8:57 pm

Good call screening committee 8-)
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Postby UML » February 21st, 2015, 9:56 pm

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'Self-serving hypocrite'

Diego Martin West MP Dr Keith Rowley attempted to sell Urban Development Corporation of Trinidad and Tobago (UDeCOTT) chairman Calder Hart a plot of his family property in Tobago. And on two separate occasions "somewhere between 2003 and 2004", Rowley and the UDeCOTT chairman drove around the sister isle in the same car.

So stated Minister of Public Utilities Mustapha Abdul-Hamid yesterday, as he delivered a blistering attack on the Tobago-born Rowley during debate on the Validation and Immunity Bill.

"I am advised that somewhere between 2003 and 2004, the same Calder Hart, about whom comments were made as being responsible for bid-rigging, that the Member for Diego Martin West on two occasions escorted Mr Calder Hart to view property in Tobago which was the member for Tobago West's family business...once as Minister for Planning and Development and once as Minister for Housing,...with a view to Mr Calder Hart purchasing a plot of land in that property," Abdul-Hamid said.

Noting that Rowley had stated on Monday that he went to see Prime Minister Patrick Manning in August 2003 about bid-rigging at UDeCOTT and about Hart's involvement, Abdul-Hamid asked: "Mr Speaker, where was the moral high ground on which the member for Diego Martin West is now perched? Where was all the righteousness that I heard on Monday. I am sorry but it seems to me that the words of the member for Diego Martin West are the words of a self-serving hypocrite."

This provoked desk-thumping.

Stating that he was defending his Government against a "vicious, treacherous and treasonous attack", Abdul-Hamid said Rowley spent 52 months in the Government after his alleged complaint to Manning about bid-rigging.

"There were five months in 2003, 2004 came and pass, 2005 came and pass, 2006 came and pass, 2007 came and pass. That is 52 months... Not a word to the public about bid-rigging... If you were so upset...so offended as you proclaim to be, how come for five years you cannot find an opportunity to make even the smallest comment to the media... about bid-rigging at UDeCOTT?

"For those five years, wasn't the bid-rigging smelling to high heavens? Were the wrong-doers not prospering? How many times worse than Piarco was UDeCOTT (during that period)? Five times, four times? Where was the voice of the member for Diego Martin West between 2003 and 2007?"

Abdul-Hamid said furthermore, there was an election in 2007 and Rowley had an opportunity to exit. "Why did you come to fight an election under the leadership of somebody who is supporting bad behaviour? More than that, he fought for that right to contest, alleging that somebody was conspiring to keep him out. Was it (the Manning administration) not smelling then? (Again) more than that, he accepted a ministerial position (becoming Minister of Trade in the new administration)," he said.

"All that time, not a word of bid-rigging," he added, asking where was Rowley's voice.

Abdul-Hamid said Rowley had now deployed opposition strategy in partnership with Ramesh Lawrence Maharaj and Jack Warner. Saying that Maharaj had a history of bringing Governments down, Abdul-Hamid said to desk-thumping: "So when I see the member for Tabaquite in partnership with the member for Diego Martin West, I have to get concerned."

He referred to PNM MPs Vincent Lasse and Rupert Griffith, who crossed the floor, attending a General Council meeting and swearing allegiance, only to join the UNC Government days after. He said he had no confidence that Rowley believed what he was saying, but that Rowley was now on a political campaign.

Abdul-Hamid said there were 25 MPs and not one of them will share the view held by Rowley that this Government was supporting corruption.

"Not one shares the view that the Prime Minister is out of order. And none shares the view that the country is going to hell in a hand basket."

To desk-thumping support, he said he wanted to advise the country that the Government stands firm against corruption.

Mustapha said all of those in the Opposition, "including the member for Diego Martin West", want Government to abandon the process of the Commission of Enquiry and engage in a "hang them in the square now" lynching.

"And the reason they are taking that view is that they have all hooked and attached their political fortunes to the collapse of UDeCOTT. And so their political fortunes are at risk. They would not like the commission to complete its work. What they would like... is for the Government to conspire with them to lynch UDeCOTT in the absence of due process," he said.

Abdul-Hamid recalled that Rowley said that if UDeCOTT was proven to be right he would resign his seat. "So he cannot take the chance that the commission would send a report that UDeCOTT might be without blame. Because his political career is on the line, by his own words," the Minister said.

He assured the country that "our Prime Minister is fit, able and competent to lead" and that the country "is indeed in good hands". He urged Rowley to "manage" his political ego.

"Sometimes you have a situation where there is a house and there is a throne and they cannot get to sit on the throne. And they would burn down the house," he said.
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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby RASC » February 22nd, 2015, 12:11 am

rfari wrote:Good call screening committee 8-)
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There were numerous things behind the scenes that a lot of people had no idea about.
...but of course they bray like donkeys claiming this and that. PNM isn't a rum shop, it's an institution; their inner workings are never exposed that easily.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby rfari » February 22nd, 2015, 8:31 am

Talk of rum shop. UNC held internal elections? And how are candidates chosen?

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Postby eliteauto » February 22nd, 2015, 8:45 am

well juzzy done print and come in on d port long time, so dem musbe had a secret screening committee? UML go tell we he in the inside he awwcorant with the inner workings of de pardy

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Crackpot » February 22nd, 2015, 10:08 am

Cops to question 3 Ministers :shock:

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-02- ... -ministers

...in West/Ramlogan witness-tampering matter
Reshma Ragoonath
Published:
Sunday, February 22, 2015

Three senior government ministers are expected to be interviewed by police this week or early next week as investigations into allegations of witness tampering levelled against former attorney general Anand Ramlogan by Police Complaints Authority Director David West continue.

The Sunday Guardian was informed that the three ministers, all of whom are MPs, will be interviewed as investigators ramp up their inquiries now that the distraction of carnival revelry has passed. The Sunday Guardian understands that the police investigation into the witness-tampering allegations against Ramlogan has been expanded to include the allegation levelled against the three senior Cabinet ministers. The investigation is being headed by acting Deputy Commissioner of Police Harold Phillip.

It is alleged that last year Ramlogan, then AG, sought to have West withdraw a witness statement he gave against him in a defamation lawsuit that he (Ramlogan) had filed against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley. The allegations stem from an alleged phone conversation between Ramlogan and West, during which it is alleged that the former AG offered West the PCA directorship in exchange for the withdrawal of the statement.

Former national security minister Gary Griffith also became embroiled in the controversy, claiming that Ramlogan had asked him to speak with West to find out if he had withdrawn the statement. Ramlogan has vehemently denied the allegations. Griffith has accused a senior member of Cabinet of attempting to pressure him into withdrawing his statement in the matter. He claimed that the minister made certain statements in the presence of two other Cabinet members.

Both Ramlogan and Griffith were dismissed on February 2 when Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar announced sweeping changes to her Cabinet. While police sources remained tight-lipped about the investigation, they confirmed that Griffith’s allegations were also being actively pursued. Griffith has been interviewed by the police and is said to be “co-operating” with investigators as they continue their inquiries into the allegations.

Since the investigation has been expanded, police sources said, it would take investigators more time than expected to complete. Investigators will have to complete all inquiries surrounding the main allegation of witness tampering levelled against Ramlogan before the former AG is interviewed, the Sunday Guardian was informed.

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby K74T » February 22nd, 2015, 10:36 am

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The COP continues to crumble, but then again they've been dead and irrelevant since that hideous defeat back in '07.

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Postby Casper23 » February 22nd, 2015, 10:36 am

^^ If precedent is to be followed then these would be THREE more ministers which will be fired seeing that they will soon be the focus of an investigation....this should be good.

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Postby Crackpot » February 22nd, 2015, 12:55 pm

Whoooooo.....The pick-up side gettin smaller and smaller before the G.E 8-)

Everybody seein the P.P for what it is, to use a word de pm said in parliament friday, I "knewn" ppl couldn't be fooled forever :drinking:

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Postby Casper23 » February 22nd, 2015, 1:14 pm

K74T wrote:
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The COP continues to crumble, but then again they've been dead and irrelevant since that hideous defeat back in '07.


Coalition governments don't last, they are erratic and short lived...Right now the PP drowning and holding on to what little support they still have

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby desifemlove » February 22nd, 2015, 5:19 pm

eyeballz wrote:UML I don't know who you are. I don't know what's your point. If you are looking for payment for your posts, I can tell you I don't have more money than Bharath. But what I do have are a very particular set of trolling skills, skills I have acquired over a very long time watching you and pioneer's posts. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let your race dividing talks stop now, that'll be the end of it. I will not troll you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will troll your every post, I will find your girl, and I will lurbz her.



ched could be on Ukraine/Putin, and he'll say sheit like "Putin only killing Indos and no Afros! Kamla should be stoppin' he!!"

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Postby desifemlove » February 22nd, 2015, 5:24 pm

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The COP continues to crumble, but then again they've been dead and irrelevant since that hideous defeat back in '07.


Was only a coalition in name only.....is de 2nd UNC government in Trini history...

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby Crackpot » February 22nd, 2015, 7:15 pm

There is no way right-thinking, intelligent and critical thinking people would ever vote conscientiously for all these troubles brought upon us in the past 4 yrs.

We have undergone an undeserving cultural shift where Wrong is Right and Right is Wrong, where it is better to "eat ah food" instead of doing the right thing. We have become more polarised and more closed, where ppl only care about themselves, their party and their area "gettin tru" and not grand ideas that benefit us all.

This must not be the footnote for us in this era in history, we must do better starting by getting rid of what we all know is responsible for it all.

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Postby UML » February 22nd, 2015, 7:20 pm

More countries are having coalition governments. I think St Kitts recently won with a coalition government.

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Postby Crackpot » February 22nd, 2015, 7:39 pm

UML wrote:More countries are having coalition governments. I think St Kitts recently won with a coalition government.


Moot point. The purpose of most coalition governments is to surmount an enemy that is not easily beaten, not because ideologically they coalesce.

The world as a whole is becoming a more ignorant, intolerable place and ppl are devising strategies to "get theirs". The same can be said for what has happened here, thus our current predicament. Time to get rid of you know who and her crew :|

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Postby rfari » February 22nd, 2015, 7:40 pm

UML wrote:More countries are having coalition governments. I think St Kitts recently won with a coalition government.

Iyo, has the ppg coalition worked as it should have for the last 5years?

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Postby Casper23 » February 22nd, 2015, 7:46 pm

UML wrote:More countries are having coalition governments. I think St Kitts recently won with a coalition government.

We are not debating the popularity of these coalition governments...as usual missing the point of the matter.....the issue at hand is that these type of governments are historically and evidently short lived...whether they crumble due to imploding or infighting as we have seen beforehand with our very PP government...have u noticed that PNM....ILP don't have to do much to bring bad light to the PP...they are making their jobs very easy

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Postby Habit7 » February 23rd, 2015, 8:19 am

Nicole quits COP
Knocks Ramadhar

By ANIKA GUMBS CCN Senior Multimedia Investigative Journalist
Story Created: Feb 22, 2015 at 10:55 PM ECT
Story Updated: Feb 22, 2015 at 10:55 PM ECT
The resignation of Congress of the People (COP) chairman Nicole Dyer-Griffith yesterday triggered a walkout from the party’s National Council meeting in Charlieville.
One member is said to have cut up his party card.
The Express learned that several upset members walked out during the meeting at the COP headquarters, with some questioning the leadership of political leader Prakash Ramadhar who was also present at the meeting.
Dyer-Griffith, the wife of former national security minister Gary Griffith, also resigned as a member of the COP.
The Sunday Express reported yesterday that party members were angry with Ramadhar for comments he made in support of Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar’s decision to fire both former attorney general Anand Ramlogan and Griffith and as a result they had planned to resign from the political party.
The members questioned why Ramadhar had failed to support Griffith’s stance on principle regarding his refusal to deny a December 19, 2014, telephone conversation he had with the director of the Police Complaints Authority(PCA) David West.
The Express learned that before Dyer-Griffith submitted her resignation to the COP administrative coordinator Charlene Hanoman, she addressed the meeting giving reasons for her resignation in which she expressed disappointment over Ramadhar’s handling of the witness tampering scandal.
Sources told the Express that members objected to Dyer-Griffith resigning and pleaded with her to reconsider but she stood her ground.
Speaking to the Express immediately following her resignation, Dyer-Griffith said: “There comes a time when we must say enough is enough. I have been with the COP since 2010. Time and time again the COP has tried to stay focused in spite of the disrespect being shown to the party. Imagine, the political leader has not called me up to this point to ask me about the meeting to which I was summoned to discuss the witness tampering issue and I was the chairman of the COP. I find that to be unbelievable and I was not prepared to continue to serve under those circumstances.”
In a subsequent release, Dyer-Griffith took Ramadhar to task for comments he made in support of the firing of Griffith from the Cabinet.
Dyer-Griffith said: ”The matters relating to the recent issue of the removal of Mr. Gary Griffith has raised the ire of many, I tread carefully, as I would not wish to be labelled as emotional once again. However, for the political leader to have agreed wholeheartedly via both his pronouncement and via a media statement by the National Executive in support of his statement begs the question of the rationale not only for supporting same, but also the rationale for refusing to make a similar call for the stepping aside of any other ministers currently being investigated in the said matter. It must be noted that at the time of writing Mr Griffith is a mere witness not under any investigation.”
Griffith, who is a key witness in the matter, confirmed to police he telephoned West on December 19 and told him he was asked to find out if he (West) had “pulled back a document”.
He named Ramlogan as the person who asked him to call West.
Griffith said he was unaware the document was related to a court matter until being told so by West, who informed him the document was filed in the High Court and he was not going to withdraw it.
Griffith’s call to West was on December 19—the same day West filed his witness statement in the Hall of Justice.
Griffith has dismissed claims made by Persad-Bissessar that he was fired because he did not inform her of the telephone call he made to West.
Griffith said he was fired because he refused to deny the December 19 telephone call.
Police are set to expand the scope of the criminal probe and Housing Minister Dr Roodal Moonilal, Labour Minister Errol McLeod and Communications Minister Vasant Bharath are expected to be quizzed in connection with a January 29 meeting that was held with Griffith to discuss his involvement in the witness tampering issue.
It was during an interview on February 2 that Dyer-Griffith said that the decision to fire Griffith was against the principles of the COP and the party should remove itself from the People’s Partnership.
Ramadhar had referred to Dyer-Griffith’s statements regarding the firing of Griffith as “personal” and “emotional”.
And in the release yesterday, Dyer-Griffith took another jab at Ramadhar, saying: “Mention was made to my ‘emotional’ response; I wish to remind that I was also removed from the confines of the Senate, at which point I quietly and calmly thanked the Honourable Prime Minister for the opportunity to have served, and continued working with the party. I was directly impacted, and if there was a point of reference for “emotionalism” it would have been that point. It wasn’t the case then, as it wasn’t the case now.”
Chiding Ramadhar for the lack of communication surrounding the furore, Dyer-Griffith added: “I take umbrage for the perceived lack of discussion with you as the political leader of a party residing in partnership by the leaders of the partnership, before major decisions are taken. Such as was the case with the most recent removal of Mr Hamel-Smith (former senate president). Mr Hamel-Smith’s position was not simply a position held unto himself, but was held by the COP as a representative therein. He was unceremoniously removed, and replaced, with the COP losing another representative within the confines of Parliament. The more disturbing fact, is that his removal and replacement seemingly was not even discussed with you, as a partner in governance as you were quoted in the media that you were somewhat shocked at his removal at a post reshuffle interview.”
In thanking the national executive and council for being given the opportunity to serve, Dyer-Griffith said that serious re-evaluation is needed to determine the COP’s place in the Partnership.
“As I mentioned at the national executive meeting, my position remains that there needs to be serious re-evaluation of the COP’s standing within the confines of the Partnership structure. Considering your stated intention to remain tied to the current confines of this structure, I choose not to cause further dissent amongst the national executive, and as such, have assumed the position I now present,” Dyer-Griffith said.
The allegation levelled against Ramlogan is that six days before West was appointed director of the PCA on November 7, he (Ramlogan) telephoned him and asked that he withdraw his witness statement in a defamation lawsuit relating to the failed extradition involving Section 34 applicants Steve Ferguson and Ishwar Galbaransingh in exchange for him being selected for the job.
Ramlogan, who piloted the Miscellaneous Provisions (Administration of Justice Act) to deal with witness-tampering, has denied the allegation which is now the subject of a criminal probe.

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I am surprised that the usually feminist voices like Gabriella Hosein or Hazel Brown haven't taken umbrage to the Prakash/COP narrative that Dyer Griffith actions are "emotional" and not rational, calculated and principled. Just because her actions shows more testicular fortitude than Prakash, he has to make slighted remarks at her femininity. It's seems like feminists in T&T chose their battles.

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Postby shogun » February 23rd, 2015, 9:26 am

I applaud her for the move. Can't say i'm entirely shocked. Prakash and the others seem content enough to eke out the little niche they've found in the Partnership to even consider growing a pair.

Jack wasting no time though. I hear he already has a meeting scheduled with Nicole today. lol.

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Postby UML » February 23rd, 2015, 1:15 pm

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$859m owed to contractors

EMBD blames poor management


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Published:
Saturday, February 21, 2015


Lall, who said he took over some 18 months ago, told the JSC the organisation’s operations were financed by the Ministry of Finance. He said when the current board took over it realised there were significant cost escalations and a multi-million dollar debt to contractors. “So we had claims for hundreds of millions of dollars that came to us. We could not get the validity of some of the claims because there was work stoppage, suspension, contractors walking off because of lack of payment.

“So we decided to keep the projects going, ask the contractors to remain on the site and continue working but we will not pay for loss of profit and downtime. We will pay for certified work by the consultant...work that we could see on the ground,” Lall said. He added one of the critical problems encountered was lack of funding, especially to pay contractors on time.

Committee member and Minister of Public Administration Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan said what she had noticed throughout the EMBD’s entire submission was reference being made to an Independent Consulting Company. Walker said there were currently five consulting engineers with the EMBD. Lall said when the board took over in 2013 it had to go with the existing prequalified list of contractors.

“Last year around October we decided to open it up to the public again...to open the prequalification listing,” Lall added. Walker concurred, adding that the consultant engineer was hired as an independent firm in accord with the contract conditions.

“The EMBD in its initial stages started off under different management and because of what they didn’t do we are now reaping the [consequences] of that. The causal factors has to go back to the pre-planning process. Before you start any development you ought to have all your approvals which is done in the pre-planning stage. “So the cost that we are seeing now is the EMBD trying to react to all these things that should have been done in the era between 2004 to 2009,” Walker said.

He said between 2004 and 2008 more than 20 sites were procured without proper studies, resulting in poor site selection. On the issue of poor performance by both consultants and contractors, he said those who failed to perform had had their contracts terminated. Seepersad-Bachan said if there were effective and efficient project management there would not have been cost overruns and delays.

About the meeting
The committee was headed by Independent Senator Dhanayshar Mahabir who said the objective of the public hearing included the following:
1. To assess the systems in place for the administration of contracts for the development of land
2. To examine the status of outstanding payments and the arrangements in place for compensating contractors
3. To understand the relationship between the EMBD and the other state entities, in particular, Housing Development Corporation (HDC), Caroni Ltd, Ministry of Food Production, Land Settlement Agency, Environmental Management Agency, Town and Country Planning and the National Insurance Property Development Company Limited (Nipdec).
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Postby UML » February 23rd, 2015, 2:38 pm

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Repairing Shoddy work done by the PNM administration

Water and Electricity conduit pipes which were laid down at the Reform Village residential development site in Williamsville


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Shoddy EMBDC work to cost taxpayers $100m



Yvonne Webb
Published:
Thursday, June 9, 2011

WASA’s chief executive Ganga Singh, second from right, points to the exposed water and electricity conduit pipes which were laid down at the Reform Village residential development site in Williamsville during a site visit yesterday. Next to Singh is WASA’s communications manager Ellen Lewis and WASA’s general manager, project implementation, Mano Bridgelal. PHOTOS: RISHI RAGOONATH
Taxpayers will have to fork out $100 million for remedial water works at ten Estate Management and Business Development Company Limited (EMBDC) sites. So said CEO of the Water and Sewage Authority (WASA), Ganga Singh, yesterday. He blamed shoddy workmanship by private contractors under the former administration. Singh, who toured one of the projects at Reform Village, South Trinidad, found water and electricity lines running parallel to each other underground, use of materials condemned by WASA more than 20 years ago and leaking pipes.

Accompanying Singh on the tour were EMBDC’s CEO Seebalack Singh, general manager, project implementation, WASA, Mann Bridgelal and Carol dos Santos, manager new service, WASA, who is also co-ordinating the team appointed by Food Production Minister Vasant Bharath to review the project.
Singh (S) explained more than $429 million already was spent on the projects undertaken five years ago, on some 4,700 residential lots on former Caroni (1975) Limited lands which should have been delivered within 15 months. He said to date not a single lot had been delivered. He added that the cost to develop the plots could increase significantly.

He said the contractor responsible for the unacceptable job was no longer in the employ of the EMBDC. However, he could not say whether that contractor would face any penalties. The tour took place following comments by Opposition Senator Fitzgerald Hinds in the Upper House on Tuesday that WASA is doing remedial work for EMDBC for more than $100 million, without tendering. He also accused Singh (G) and a woman identified only by the initials CD, of being involved in the activities taking place at the EMBDC. At a news conference on the site, Singh (G) confirmed: “WASA is in fact doing work for the EMBDC, but not with the kind of insinuation, or the kind of innuendo Senator Hinds speaks of.”

He said Carol dos Santos, the person referred to as CD, was appointed to co-ordinate the various State agencies, following a meeting in April, called by Bharath, which included the various stakeholders, T&TEC, WASA, EMBDC, and the Ministries of Food Production, Works and Drainage. Dos Santos explained that no approval was granted by the regulatory bodies for the sites and they were redoing work which had not been done properly to bring it up to the required standards. “Clearly on the basis of Reform, here, the water (lines) cannot co-exist alongside the electricity. This is a definite no, no. It is a safety hazard, it is a health hazard and it can lead to fatalities,” Singh (G) said. He added: “To do this remedial work, it would naturally incur additional costs. We have projected on the ten sites, for the water sector, approximately $100 million.

“Once more, the taxpayer is called upon to bear the burden because of the incompetence of the private sector contractors and the lack of supervision by the EMBDC in the last regime,” the WASA CEO said.
The Reform site, which comprises 737 lots, is to be handed over by the end of August, he said. Bridgelal explained that based on the current inspection, the drawings of the site were not up to mark. He added: “The infrastructure existing is not what is on the drawings. Several items are missing and we cannot accept the drawings to begin with. “Secondly, the materials used on these project sites for the water aspect are not consistent with the standards set by WASA. “There is a pipeline existing here that has been condemned by WASA over 20 years ago. “These things must be checked and verified before WASA could accept the infrastructure here to put our precious water.”
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Postby UML » February 23rd, 2015, 2:45 pm

UML wrote:$130m to repair flaws on HDC Houses

The government would have to find about $130 million to repair flaws on houses built by the PNM administration.


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...slippy is this what you mean by PNM houses should be given to PNM ppl even if 80% complete....but these completed eh!!! :roll: :roll:

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Postby rfari » February 23rd, 2015, 11:40 pm

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Mohammed, a former journalist, joined the People's Partnership Government as engagement adviser to Persad-Bissessar, six months after the May 24 general election last year.

Police had initiated an investigation after Lyder and Ramdass reported they were threatened in an e-mail in January sent to them by someone adopting the alias "Janice Thomas" in connection with the Reshmi Usha Ramnarine story being investigated by the Express.

The threatening e-mail, which targeted Lyder and Ramdass, was addressed to editors and reporters of the Express and staff of CCN-TV6 as well as other media houses, accused Lyder and Ramdass of a personal vendetta against Ramnarine.

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Postby desifemlove » February 24th, 2015, 8:50 am

UML wrote:More countries are having coalition governments. I think St Kitts recently won with a coalition government.


read de bangwagon fallacy...google is yuh friend...

coalitions aren't any more better than single party governments....this is political science 101.

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Postby desifemlove » February 24th, 2015, 8:56 am

regarding Mrs. Dyer-Griffith, well she saying what de many already know. COP been dead long time, and the hierarchy only does care about safety in de UNC's bosom. This is not a true coalition. TOP is silent and finished since dey lost in THA elections, NJAC silent, and COP is a tag along. I laugh at people who call dis a PP govt., since it really only PP in name.

Prakash may keep St. Augustine, but Arima, D'Abadie, Lopinot, Sando West, and Tunapuna all going back PNM. I suspect Dooks is seen as a good MP, but he old now, he probably doh care if he does lose.

A government achievement is if COP can get any more seats than St. Augustine.

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Postby desifemlove » February 24th, 2015, 8:59 am

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FIRED National Security Minister Captain Gary Griffith said his wife's decision to resign from the Congress of the People (COP) was because its political leader Prakash Ramadhar was a "total disappointment and a failure."

He said 100,000 people have already left the party.

Yesterday, Nicole Dyer-Giffith resigned from her position as the COP's chairman and from the party.

Her resignation comes after Griffith was fired by Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar as well as COP member and former president of the Senate Timothy Hamel-Smith.

When asked if Dyer-Griffith's resignation had to do with comments Ramadhar would have made in support of his firing, Griffith said: " The people who do that speculation will be those persons who have hijacked the COP wearing a white jersey but are really UNC members."
He said: " The COP is a total spent force and unfortunately Prakash Ramadhar has totally disappointed the 200,000 marginal voters in this country. For 30 pieces of silver, the COP has been totally bought out by the UNC and that is unfortunate. Prakash Ramadhar is a total disappointment and a failure to the marginal voters."

When asked if he supported the decision his wife made he said: " Nicole Dyer will speak for Nicole Dyer-Griffith. She makes her decisions based on Nicole Dyer-Griifth. She stands by herself. She will not sell her principles. Nicole Dyer stands on her own two feet and it is a pity that people like Prakash Ramadhar could not do the same. Nicole Dyer-Griffith what she has done is what over 100 000 other people have done. They have left the COP because they realised the COP is no longer that representation of marginal voters. "
He said: " As the song says, the party done."

Griffith said the People Partnership Government was totally controlled by the UNC who had no respect for the COP or Ramadhar.
He said: " The COP is of no substance, is of no value. It is not involved in the governance of Trinidad and Tobago."

He also asked: " How come he is so silent now when there is a perception that other ministers are involved?"

His question was referring to an Express report that stated three Cabinet ministers were being questioned by police regarding their January 29 meeting held in the conference room of the Office of the Prime Minister to discuss the involvement of Griffith in the David West witness-tampering matter. West is the director of the Police Complaints Authority (PCA).

On February 2, Ramadhar told the media that he was in support of Persad-Bissessar's decision to fire Griffith and former attorney general Anand Ramlogan.

His comments angered party members who felt he should have supported Griffith's stance on principle regarding his refusal to deny a December 19, 2014, telephone conversation he had with West.


will UML say it a viable coalition now?

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Re: .::The Official General Election 2015 Thread::.

Postby UML » February 24th, 2015, 2:26 pm

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Long-awaited Scarborough Library opens
Eleven years later...


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The controversial decade-old Scarborough Library has now been completed at a cost of over $86 million, double the original estimated cost.
Construction of the spanking new building which started in 2004 was finally opened to members of the public yesterday.
It has been a long wait as many thought it would have never been a reality, but the final of three mega projects by the present PNM-led Tobago House of Assembly (THA) has been delivered to the people of Tobago.
Following an earthquake in 1997, the library facility was damaged considerably and later demolished. Head of Library Services Tobago, Helen Johnson, told the Express the building is also accommodating wheelchair bound persons and the visually impaired.
“It’s a big sense of relief. We have been in Signal Hill since 2000, so it’s good to be able to come back to Scarborough and once again offer the full range of services to the members of the public,” Johnson said.
Education Secretary Huey Cadette was observed sitting through a story-telling session in the presence of former senator Dr Eastlyn McKenzie.
He called the opening of the facility a significant one under his tenure. “I am extremely proud. I think this is a step into the future, a significant step into the future for all of Tobago, young people, children, youth of yesterday, young adults, everyone. The visually impaired, everyone can find a peace at the library,” Huey Cadette said.
Among the sections of the library are the Eastlyn McKenzie Children’s Library, the Anne Mitchell-Gift Auditorium, the James Biggart Adult Library and the Susan Graig-James Heritage Library.
McKenzie had this message for the children of Tobago: “Let them come in, let them read, let them research and let them be inspired by the people who they would see.”
The Library is open to members of the public from 8.30 a.m, Monday to Saturday
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PNM THA with the infamous COST OVER-RUNS AGAIN!!!! :roll:


Imagine when they "return" to government!!! :shock:


dey eh even finish it when PNM was in government!!! :shock:

PNM celebrating an embarrassment!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

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