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katiedido wrote:Why are ppl being deliberately obtuse about this? If the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission then how is anyone getting to herd immunity with a highly transmissible virus? A vaccine doesn’t need to be sterilizing to reach herd immunity but it definitely needs to be higher than Pfizer’s 20-40%, J&J’s 13%, AZ 40%. Read Fauci’s interview from last week… they are seeing drop offs in efficacy for hospitalization as well. Ppl are really being delusional and fooling themselves thinking we can vaccinate our way out of this with the current vaccines available.
What We Know So Far About Waning Vaccine Effectivenesskatiedido wrote:Why are ppl being deliberately obtuse about this? If the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission then how is anyone getting to herd immunity with a highly transmissible virus? A vaccine doesn’t need to be sterilizing to reach herd immunity but it definitely needs to be higher than Pfizer’s 20-40%, J&J’s 13%, AZ 40%. Read Fauci’s interview from last week… they are seeing drop offs in efficacy for hospitalization as well. Ppl are really being delusional and fooling themselves thinking we can vaccinate our way out of this with the current vaccines available.
matr1x wrote:I have a question. When we had beaten it last year, where did the 2nd wave come from? Borders were closed, and you couldn't come in without quarantine. Where was the persistent source of the 2nd wave?
katiedido wrote:I’m no anti vaxer. I am fully vaccinated. But I recognize that what we want and what actually is are 2 different things. Pro vaxers want everyone to get the shot and their boosters on time to maintain durable immunity . Well duh of course that’s how we get out of this( both things must happen). I’m just saying realistically that’s not going to happen. You struggling to get ppl to take a first dose you really think that same cohort gonna take boosters twice a year? What’s the plan for getting to the 90% vaccinated needed for normalcy? Pleading, begging? Why are we yammering on about vaccines only like it’s the only thing possible that can be done right now? Everyone just needs to be realistic and think about plan B since you cannot control human behaviour.
Phone Surgeon wrote:im 100% good since yesterday or so
the amount of mucus and the thickness of it for the last few days was amazing though
i think thats what they say f#%ks up peoples lungs and breathing ability?
in any event on wednesday or thursday ill go pay for a private PCR before and get the results before i decide to integrate with the world
feeling for a bake and shark long time now
not going hospital for a PCR because they hitting you a mandatory 14 day quarantine while they wait for results
katiedido wrote:I’m no anti vaxer. I am fully vaccinated. But I recognize that what we want and what actually is are 2 different things. Pro vaxers want everyone to get the shot and their boosters on time to maintain durable immunity . Well duh of course that’s how we get out of this( both things must happen). I’m just saying realistically that’s not going to happen. You struggling to get ppl to take a first dose you really think that same cohort gonna take boosters twice a year? What’s the plan for getting to the 90% vaccinated needed for normalcy? Pleading, begging? Why are we yammering on about vaccines only like it’s the only thing possible that can be done right now? Everyone just needs to be realistic and think about plan B since you cannot control human behaviour.
Phone Surgeon wrote:im 100% good since yesterday or so
the amount of mucus and the thickness of it for the last few days was amazing though
i think thats what they say f#%ks up peoples lungs and breathing ability?
in any event on wednesday or thursday ill go pay for a private PCR before and get the results before i decide to integrate with the world
feeling for a bake and shark long time now
not going hospital for a PCR because they hitting you a mandatory 14 day quarantine while they wait for results
pugboy wrote:what "they" want is for this covid to go away on its own and for other people be the ones to be responsible for getting it done.
Of course when a friend or relative succumbs they suddenly change their tune......katiedido wrote:I’m no anti vaxer. I am fully vaccinated. But I recognize that what we want and what actually is are 2 different things. Pro vaxers want everyone to get the shot and their boosters on time to maintain durable immunity . Well duh of course that’s how we get out of this( both things must happen). I’m just saying realistically that’s not going to happen. You struggling to get ppl to take a first dose you really think that same cohort gonna take boosters twice a year? What’s the plan for getting to the 90% vaccinated needed for normalcy? Pleading, begging? Why are we yammering on about vaccines only like it’s the only thing possible that can be done right now? Everyone just needs to be realistic and think about plan B since you cannot control human behaviour.
Phone Surgeon wrote:im 100% good since yesterday or so
the amount of mucus and the thickness of it for the last few days was amazing though
i think thats what they say f#%ks up peoples lungs and breathing ability?
in any event on wednesday or thursday ill go pay for a private PCR before and get the results before i decide to integrate with the world
feeling for a bake and shark long time now
not going hospital for a PCR because they hitting you a mandatory 14 day quarantine while they wait for results
wtf wrote:Just come from High Street. The amount of people wearing masks under their chins..smh
RIP Trinidad.
Phone Surgeon wrote:im 100% good since yesterday or so
the amount of mucus and the thickness of it for the last few days was amazing though
i think thats what they say f#%ks up peoples lungs and breathing ability?
in any event on wednesday or thursday ill go pay for a private PCR before and get the results before i decide to integrate with the world
feeling for a bake and shark long time now
not going hospital for a PCR because they hitting you a mandatory 14 day quarantine while they wait for results
pugboy wrote:so still no phone call from the authorities ?
Phone Surgeon wrote:pugboy wrote:so still no phone call from the authorities ?
apparently they only call if its a positive PCR test in a public health
private test they not reporting/calling
Kenjo wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:im 100% good since yesterday or so
the amount of mucus and the thickness of it for the last few days was amazing though
i think thats what they say f#%ks up peoples lungs and breathing ability?
in any event on wednesday or thursday ill go pay for a private PCR before and get the results before i decide to integrate with the world
feeling for a bake and shark long time now
not going hospital for a PCR because they hitting you a mandatory 14 day quarantine while they wait for results
Why are you going back so fast ? No medical input to advise you on when you should repeat it ? You still a bit symptomatic
Phone Surgeon wrote:Kenjo wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:im 100% good since yesterday or so
the amount of mucus and the thickness of it for the last few days was amazing though
i think thats what they say f#%ks up peoples lungs and breathing ability?
in any event on wednesday or thursday ill go pay for a private PCR before and get the results before i decide to integrate with the world
feeling for a bake and shark long time now
not going hospital for a PCR because they hitting you a mandatory 14 day quarantine while they wait for results
Why are you going back so fast ? No medical input to advise you on when you should repeat it ? You still a bit symptomatic
i checking 14 days after testing positive
Phone Surgeon to answer your question sorry for the reply was conducting business , the same said question could be asked for one third of Europe that died from the black plague, when it's your time it's your time like I said similar circumstances to today's climate but deadlierst7 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:I say when is your time is your time , you talking about walking in the road with your eyes closed, you issa kinda dunce yes. Breaking it down as simple as possible even a retard like you could understand, when it is your time bro, NOTHING could stop that vax , unvax nada nothing zip....cromprende ?st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Vaxxed or unvaxxed when it's your time it's your time, he took the vaccine to protect himself and his family yet he still died with no comorbidities to boot
well if you think daz the case, close yuh eye and cross the road. if u suppose to dead in 2030, then u go be fine.
*shrug
so the 5million people who die from corona in the last 2 years, it was their time?
hover, why yuh quiet?
narrator: and it was then hover realised he was the dunce and retard, so he ignored Phone Surgeon's question to cry more about no lockdowns and removing SoE because he was not allowed in the places everyone were in.
hover11 wrote:Phone Surgeon to answer your question sorry for the reply was conducting business , the same said question could be asked for one third of Europe that died from the black plague, when it's your time it's your time like I said similar circumstances to today's climate but deadlierst7 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:I say when is your time is your time , you talking about walking in the road with your eyes closed, you issa kinda dunce yes. Breaking it down as simple as possible even a retard like you could understand, when it is your time bro, NOTHING could stop that vax , unvax nada nothing zip....cromprende ?st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Vaxxed or unvaxxed when it's your time it's your time, he took the vaccine to protect himself and his family yet he still died with no comorbidities to boot
well if you think daz the case, close yuh eye and cross the road. if u suppose to dead in 2030, then u go be fine.
*shrug
so the 5million people who die from corona in the last 2 years, it was their time?
hover, why yuh quiet?
narrator: and it was then hover realised he was the dunce and retard, so he ignored Phone Surgeon's question to cry more about no lockdowns and removing SoE because he was not allowed in the places everyone were in.
Try harder? No need because vaccination does not prevent death but just reduces your chances but okadnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Phone Surgeon to answer your question sorry for the reply was conducting business , the same said question could be asked for one third of Europe that died from the black plague, when it's your time it's your time like I said similar circumstances to today's climate but deadlierst7 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:I say when is your time is your time , you talking about walking in the road with your eyes closed, you issa kinda dunce yes. Breaking it down as simple as possible even a retard like you could understand, when it is your time bro, NOTHING could stop that vax , unvax nada nothing zip....cromprende ?st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Vaxxed or unvaxxed when it's your time it's your time, he took the vaccine to protect himself and his family yet he still died with no comorbidities to boot
well if you think daz the case, close yuh eye and cross the road. if u suppose to dead in 2030, then u go be fine.
*shrug
so the 5million people who die from corona in the last 2 years, it was their time?
hover, why yuh quiet?
narrator: and it was then hover realised he was the dunce and retard, so he ignored Phone Surgeon's question to cry more about no lockdowns and removing SoE because he was not allowed in the places everyone were in.
Black plague 1350.
First vaccine 1796.
Try harder.
hover11 wrote:Phone Surgeon to answer your question sorry for the reply was conducting business , the same said question could be asked for one third of Europe that died from the black plague, when it's your time it's your time like I said similar circumstances to today's climate but deadlierst7 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:I say when is your time is your time , you talking about walking in the road with your eyes closed, you issa kinda dunce yes. Breaking it down as simple as possible even a retard like you could understand, when it is your time bro, NOTHING could stop that vax , unvax nada nothing zip....cromprende ?st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Vaxxed or unvaxxed when it's your time it's your time, he took the vaccine to protect himself and his family yet he still died with no comorbidities to boot
well if you think daz the case, close yuh eye and cross the road. if u suppose to dead in 2030, then u go be fine.
*shrug
so the 5million people who die from corona in the last 2 years, it was their time?
hover, why yuh quiet?
narrator: and it was then hover realised he was the dunce and retard, so he ignored Phone Surgeon's question to cry more about no lockdowns and removing SoE because he was not allowed in the places everyone were in.
hover11 wrote:Try harder? No need because vaccination does not prevent death but just reduces your chances but okadnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Phone Surgeon to answer your question sorry for the reply was conducting business , the same said question could be asked for one third of Europe that died from the black plague, when it's your time it's your time like I said similar circumstances to today's climate but deadlierst7 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:I say when is your time is your time , you talking about walking in the road with your eyes closed, you issa kinda dunce yes. Breaking it down as simple as possible even a retard like you could understand, when it is your time bro, NOTHING could stop that vax , unvax nada nothing zip....cromprende ?st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Vaxxed or unvaxxed when it's your time it's your time, he took the vaccine to protect himself and his family yet he still died with no comorbidities to boot
well if you think daz the case, close yuh eye and cross the road. if u suppose to dead in 2030, then u go be fine.
*shrug
so the 5million people who die from corona in the last 2 years, it was their time?
hover, why yuh quiet?
narrator: and it was then hover realised he was the dunce and retard, so he ignored Phone Surgeon's question to cry more about no lockdowns and removing SoE because he was not allowed in the places everyone were in.
Black plague 1350.
First vaccine 1796.
Try harder.
adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Try harder? No need because vaccination does not prevent death but just reduces your chances but okadnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Phone Surgeon to answer your question sorry for the reply was conducting business , the same said question could be asked for one third of Europe that died from the black plague, when it's your time it's your time like I said similar circumstances to today's climate but deadlierst7 wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:hover11 wrote:I say when is your time is your time , you talking about walking in the road with your eyes closed, you issa kinda dunce yes. Breaking it down as simple as possible even a retard like you could understand, when it is your time bro, NOTHING could stop that vax , unvax nada nothing zip....cromprende ?st7 wrote:
well if you think daz the case, close yuh eye and cross the road. if u suppose to dead in 2030, then u go be fine.
*shrug
so the 5million people who die from corona in the last 2 years, it was their time?
hover, why yuh quiet?
narrator: and it was then hover realised he was the dunce and retard, so he ignored Phone Surgeon's question to cry more about no lockdowns and removing SoE because he was not allowed in the places everyone were in.
Black plague 1350.
First vaccine 1796.
Try harder.
To what? 99.5% vs. 97%?
Try harder.
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