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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 12:05 pm

assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue
Habit7 wrote:
Wraith King wrote:I guess you never heard of binoculars although they would have more sophisticated equipment at their disposal as well something akin to a telescope.

So what you are saying is if I ever heard of binoculars, but not a binoculars, some kinda thingamabob that is so accurate and technical that you can't recall it in order not to embarrassed me with your profound knowledge in the area.

I understand.

And even though a search and rescue team would use multiple air and sea assets to have a description of the boat they are looking for, the drift patterns the current will a carry it and they will search in a crisscross pattern to try to find a vessel adrift. That is no comparison to a TTCG vessel that should ignore the sure radar signals of motorised boats that entering our waters, to use their highly tuned binoculars/not a binoculars/telescope to look what would appear a stationary fishing boat that must be a concern.

I think you may be on to something.. .


His behaviour is an insult to intelligence and morality and it's simply disgusting to persons who value those two values. Persons are allowed to support political parties of their choice but to actively defend corruption and incompetence is unacceptable.

Perv24/7 has shown himself to be dishonest, manipulative, a spreader of propaganda in addition to being exposed as a porn addict while pretending to be religious.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 11th, 2021, 12:08 pm

Wraith King wrote:
assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue
Habit7 wrote:
Wraith King wrote:I guess you never heard of binoculars although they would have more sophisticated equipment at their disposal as well something akin to a telescope.

So what you are saying is if I ever heard of binoculars, but not a binoculars, some kinda thingamabob that is so accurate and technical that you can't recall it in order not to embarrassed me with your profound knowledge in the area.

I understand.

And even though a search and rescue team would use multiple air and sea assets to have a description of the boat they are looking for, the drift patterns the current will a carry it and they will search in a crisscross pattern to try to find a vessel adrift. That is no comparison to a TTCG vessel that should ignore the sure radar signals of motorised boats that entering our waters, to use their highly tuned binoculars/not a binoculars/telescope to look what would appear a stationary fishing boat that must be a concern.

I think you may be on to something.. .


His behaviour is an insult to intelligence and morality and it's simply disgusting to persons who value those two values. Persons are allowed to support political parties of their choice but to actively defend corruption and incompetence is unacceptable.

Perv24/7 has shown himself to be dishonest, manipulative, a spreader of propaganda in addition to being exposed as a porn addict while pretending to be religious.
You forget he always present misleading and ancient data to say its facts . Then he changes the goal post to say UNC to blame .

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 12:20 pm

Habit7 wrote:
assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue

It is great to criticise. You are free to do so. But a fishing boat drifting from the Atlantic Ocean is very hard to spot. Malaysia Airlines MH 370 crashed in the Indian Ocean in 2014. An entire Boeing 777 and we don't know where it crashed. Most of the debris, huge pieces of the fuselage, was only found washed up on shores. There is no magic device to easily detect those objects, they had to spend several months combing the ocean looking for it. Farless for the TTCG not knowing what to look for.

So yes if you take a pirogue, approach T&T from the NE, cut engines and allow for several days, you can drift into T&T undetected. It is unreasonable to expect any different. Many Cubans arrive in Florida by the same way without motorised boats, by passing the US Navy and USCG. Half of the time it is travelling is at night went it is impossible to see. And at day "waves up to 2m in open waters" makes it hard to spot a boat 1m above the waterline.

Not everything is a criticism and lament.


Refer to prior posts where you've been discredited.

Stay off those dirty websites.

A boat travelling from Cuba to Miami is not comparable to a boat that originated from Africa that reached Tobago.

Several days travelling just drifting and the Coast Guard can't spot it and it's not their fault because the boat was moving too slow, you can't see at night in spite of night vision binoculars and googles and during the day the waves too high because 2m waves higher than the Coast Guard vessel so they can't see. I guess that makes sense if you're a demented pervert.

By you stating the Coast Guard doesn't know what to look for means they unaware of their duties and responsibilities. Surely spotting foreign vessels entering our maritime area is one of if not their major responsibility.

You're right not everything is criticism and lament. In your case it's blatant lies.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 12:27 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Wraith King wrote:
assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue
Habit7 wrote:
Wraith King wrote:I guess you never heard of binoculars although they would have more sophisticated equipment at their disposal as well something akin to a telescope.

So what you are saying is if I ever heard of binoculars, but not a binoculars, some kinda thingamabob that is so accurate and technical that you can't recall it in order not to embarrassed me with your profound knowledge in the area.

I understand.

And even though a search and rescue team would use multiple air and sea assets to have a description of the boat they are looking for, the drift patterns the current will a carry it and they will search in a crisscross pattern to try to find a vessel adrift. That is no comparison to a TTCG vessel that should ignore the sure radar signals of motorised boats that entering our waters, to use their highly tuned binoculars/not a binoculars/telescope to look what would appear a stationary fishing boat that must be a concern.

I think you may be on to something.. .


His behaviour is an insult to intelligence and morality and it's simply disgusting to persons who value those two values. Persons are allowed to support political parties of their choice but to actively defend corruption and incompetence is unacceptable.

Perv24/7 has shown himself to be dishonest, manipulative, a spreader of propaganda in addition to being exposed as a porn addict while pretending to be religious.
You forget he always present misleading and ancient data to say its facts . Then he changes the goal post to say UNC to blame .


I know how that person that called him out felt. I used to just browse through the threads and read comments till I observe the consistent lies, manipulation and propaganda perv24/7 was posting. That's when I created an account and called him out. When I stated that at the beginning I was accused of being you using a different account, then I was accused of being a UNC supporter, then I was accused of being racist. Not he just throws general insinuations like he has seen my character when multiple persons have shown on numerous occasions that he's a very dishonest person.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 11th, 2021, 12:29 pm

Wraith King wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue

It is great to criticise. You are free to do so. But a fishing boat drifting from the Atlantic Ocean is very hard to spot. Malaysia Airlines MH 370 crashed in the Indian Ocean in 2014. An entire Boeing 777 and we don't know where it crashed. Most of the debris, huge pieces of the fuselage, was only found washed up on shores. There is no magic device to easily detect those objects, they had to spend several months combing the ocean looking for it. Farless for the TTCG not knowing what to look for.

So yes if you take a pirogue, approach T&T from the NE, cut engines and allow for several days, you can drift into T&T undetected. It is unreasonable to expect any different. Many Cubans arrive in Florida by the same way without motorised boats, by passing the US Navy and USCG. Half of the time it is travelling is at night went it is impossible to see. And at day "waves up to 2m in open waters" makes it hard to spot a boat 1m above the waterline.

Not everything is a criticism and lament.


Refer to prior posts where you've been discredited.

Stay off those dirty websites.

A boat travelling from Cuba to Miami is not comparable to a boat that originated from Africa that reached Tobago.

Several days travelling just drifting and the Coast Guard can't spot it and it's not their fault because the boat was moving too slow, you can't see at night in spite of night vision binoculars and googles and during the day the waves too high because 2m waves higher than the Coast Guard vessel so they can't see. I guess that makes sense if you're a demented pervert.

By you stating the Coast Guard doesn't know what to look for means they unaware of their duties and responsibilities. Surely spotting foreign vessels entering our maritime area is one of if not their major responsibility.

You're right not everything is criticism and lament. In your case it's blatant lies.
Don't study sex addict habit 7, years ago he admitted that he posts bogus to mislead tuners

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 12:31 pm

Redman wrote:You should check out any Social Program in the world -they are all under funded.
Social Security in the US-same structure as NIB.
Made the same Actuarial estimates-made the same interest rate assumptions.

The NIB has been underfunded for more than a decade.


daxt0r wrote:Imagine eh ah contributory fund that taxpayers paid into is in trouble yet the free for all gimme-gimme handout programmes like CEPEP and URP have funding being increased to feed the unproductive criminal people.
Then again we know people cya plan to save dey life hence why we seeing the daily debacle to distribute an unwanted vaccine that take so long to reach so it easy to understand why fund administration that doesn't involve giving out to friends, and family is challenging to these people.


All social programs globally are underfunded? Carry on.

Tell us more about this.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 12:37 pm

zoom rader wrote:
Wraith King wrote:
assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue
Habit7 wrote:
Wraith King wrote:I guess you never heard of binoculars although they would have more sophisticated equipment at their disposal as well something akin to a telescope.

So what you are saying is if I ever heard of binoculars, but not a binoculars, some kinda thingamabob that is so accurate and technical that you can't recall it in order not to embarrassed me with your profound knowledge in the area.

I understand.

And even though a search and rescue team would use multiple air and sea assets to have a description of the boat they are looking for, the drift patterns the current will a carry it and they will search in a crisscross pattern to try to find a vessel adrift. That is no comparison to a TTCG vessel that should ignore the sure radar signals of motorised boats that entering our waters, to use their highly tuned binoculars/not a binoculars/telescope to look what would appear a stationary fishing boat that must be a concern.

I think you may be on to something.. .


His behaviour is an insult to intelligence and morality and it's simply disgusting to persons who value those two values. Persons are allowed to support political parties of their choice but to actively defend corruption and incompetence is unacceptable.

Perv24/7 has shown himself to be dishonest, manipulative, a spreader of propaganda in addition to being exposed as a porn addict while pretending to be religious.
You forget he always present misleading and ancient data to say its facts . Then he changes the goal post to say UNC to blame .


What's ironic is that he accuses others of what he does. Surprised he hasn't started calling others perverts.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby zoom rader » June 11th, 2021, 12:58 pm

Wraith King wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
Wraith King wrote:
assassin wrote:So we have it here that the way to breach TT's borders is to cut engines and drift in on the currents. There is no way TTCG can spot and identify your craft with this circumstance

I seldom post on non tech related. I read the forums a lot and you seem routinely committed to justifying and excusing the indefensible... Quite committed... Beyond being passionate about an issue
Habit7 wrote:
Wraith King wrote:I guess you never heard of binoculars although they would have more sophisticated equipment at their disposal as well something akin to a telescope.

So what you are saying is if I ever heard of binoculars, but not a binoculars, some kinda thingamabob that is so accurate and technical that you can't recall it in order not to embarrassed me with your profound knowledge in the area.

I understand.

And even though a search and rescue team would use multiple air and sea assets to have a description of the boat they are looking for, the drift patterns the current will a carry it and they will search in a crisscross pattern to try to find a vessel adrift. That is no comparison to a TTCG vessel that should ignore the sure radar signals of motorised boats that entering our waters, to use their highly tuned binoculars/not a binoculars/telescope to look what would appear a stationary fishing boat that must be a concern.

I think you may be on to something.. .


His behaviour is an insult to intelligence and morality and it's simply disgusting to persons who value those two values. Persons are allowed to support political parties of their choice but to actively defend corruption and incompetence is unacceptable.

Perv24/7 has shown himself to be dishonest, manipulative, a spreader of propaganda in addition to being exposed as a porn addict while pretending to be religious.
You forget he always present misleading and ancient data to say its facts . Then he changes the goal post to say UNC to blame .


What's ironic is that he accuses others of what he does. Surprised he hasn't started calling others perverts.
He won't call others perverts, cause alot of the older tuners knew about the scandal he was in. He is protected by the mods, especially one of the champion mods on the pink rights movement whose quick to defend

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby adnj » June 11th, 2021, 1:15 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Wraith King wrote:
Habit7 wrote:They switched off the technology, on that day, to detect a boat with no engine going at the speed of the current.


Lack of speed, the counter to the Coast Guard in Trinidad.

Sounds legit.

Well Sherlock, how is a boat adrift detected by any country?

Please feel to share all the several ways you can't answer the question.

And when you provide an excellent answer, plz provide it to Brasil and Europe who face the same problem of boats found adrift with dead bodies.
Marine radar is used to detect any microwave reflective material on the water by use of polarized antennae. It can detect small boats, jet skis, even fishing nets.

Thermal imaging systems such as the Marine FLIR (forward looking infrared) detect any thermal gradients on the surface or shore and can be set to pinpoint certain temperatures- such as engine exhaust or body heat.

If search is a problem, it is the size of the area and/or weather.

I am quite certain that NATO and Brazil are aware of FLIR.

FLIR Systems Awarded U.S. Navy Contract Valued at up to $50 Million to Support Coast Guard and Navy Patrol Boats

WILSONVILLE, OR -- (Marketwired) -- 09/27/13 -- FLIR Systems, Inc. (NASDAQ: FLIR) announced today that it has been awarded an indefinite delivery, indefinite quantity contract from the U.S. Naval Surface Warfare Center, Crane Division, to support the Patrol Boat Electro-Optics System (PB-EOS) program for the U.S. Coast Guard and U.S. Navy. The contract is valued at $49.9 million and is for a variant of FLIR's recently introduced SeaFLIR 280-HD maritime electro-optical/infrared imaging system. These advanced imaging systems provide critical capability to enhance navigation, intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.

https://investors.flir.com/news-release ... on-support

FLIR Systems Announces Sea Star SAFIRE III Selected by Brazilian Navy
   
By DDN | 12 years ago | 11/06/2008

FLIR Systems, Inc. (FLIR) announced Nov. 3 that it has been awarded a multi year contract from the Brazilian Navy for six Sea Star SAFIREr III infrared multi-sensor surveillance systems along with a provision for a total of 12 systems, training and other services. These systems will be installed on AgustaWestland Super Lynx helicopters for use in maritime patrol and fleet security missions.

The value of the contract has been mandated as confidential per the requirements of the Brazilian Ministry of Defense.

https://www.defensedaily.com/flir-syste ... rnational/

https://www.sea-hawk.com/

https://www.flir.eu/



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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 11th, 2021, 1:31 pm

but u have to be patrolling to use that. how u gonna patrol teh seas when u launch an soe to keep the forces inland to patrol the citizens... eh....

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 11th, 2021, 1:48 pm

look where the coast guard is...

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 11th, 2021, 2:09 pm

https://www.facebook.com/FFOSTT/videos/312718950401756




with all the patrols and foreign boats are allowed to work in our waters cause its 'commercial' but local fisherment getting jam with curfew.
pirates on the open seas, and cg 'patrolling it well'.

they replaced the failure of MoNS small pin, and put the man who fraid to go down carli bay when he was a junior MoNS.


whatever habbit7.xxx poses to ratify the present administration, ur not seeing the results good administration. ur seeing results of a failed state.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » June 11th, 2021, 2:16 pm

Nothing you are saying here is technical or has anything to do with the subject. You all can't manage the issue so all you can do is discuss me like 2 mean girls.

The issue with Cuba to Miami is that they face the same problem with rafts arriving on their shores undetected. And that is with the USCG and US Navy and busy port with good radar coverage. They are having an increase in Cubans arriving undetected, Europe is having the same issue, and the guys in the boat we found were trying to reach Cape Verde where they have the same problem. To say that we can spot a singular boat adrift when everybody else is struggling to do the same, is unreasonable.



adnj wrote:Marine radar is used to detect any microwave reflective material on the water by use of polarized antennae. It can detect small boats, jet skis, even fishing nets.

Thermal imaging systems such as the Marine FLIR (forward looking infrared) detect any thermal gradients on the surface or shore and can be set to pinpoint certain temperatures- such as engine exhaust or body heat.

If search is a problem, it is the size of the area and/or weather.

Marine radar sends out a pulse that is meant to be reflected from a flat enough surface and bounce back to the antenna. Detecting small objects is always a challenge esp amid the clutter. But factors such as range and distance come into play. If there is not enough reflective surface to give a strong signal, it will not show. If you are too far, it will not show.

Marine FLIR is good for top-down from an aircraft, but this was a boat without an engine and dead bodies. I don't think they will be at a much different temperature than the surrounding environment.

But hey, maybe USCG, NATO, Brazilian Navy are doing something wrong. Maybe you all could inform them on how to deal with these boats adrift.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 11th, 2021, 2:25 pm

using US cuban migrant situation is a false equivalency. they have significant overseas assets, pushing proxy wars and intimidating other countries' borders.
if america wants, it can block migrants from cuba and haiti. they already sanction countries so effectively, that people starve and dont get medicine except if thy allow.

they have the capability to secure their borders, they choose not to.

prolly we are similar, in that gortt refuses to secure our borders, by continuously stymieing our border security. kamala bought 12boats, pnm park them up.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » June 11th, 2021, 2:51 pm

sMASH wrote:using US cuban migrant situation is a false equivalency. they have significant overseas assets, pushing proxy wars and intimidating other countries' borders.
if america wants, it can block migrants from cuba and haiti. they already sanction countries so effectively, that people starve and dont get medicine except if thy allow.

they have the capability to secure their borders, they choose not to.

prolly we are similar, in that gortt refuses to secure our borders, by continuously stymieing our border security. kamala bought 12boats, pnm park them up.

USA ended the "wet foot, dry foot" policy for Cubans. They spend tremendous resources stopping illegal migration by sea because it a big cause for illegal drugs entering from South and Central America. We just had the Trump administration that was hard on illegal immigration. To say that the US allows for ppl to attempt to come in rickety rafts for them to capsize and dead bodies to wash up on shores of their tourist beaches,isit foolish.

Deal with facts nah, not conspiracies.

And find out if there is a conspiracy for Italy to allow for boats to wash up on their shore too, because we all know how they love African migrants.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 2:53 pm

Habit7 wrote:Nothing you are saying here is technical or has anything to do with the subject. You all can't manage the issue so all you can do is discuss me like 2 mean girls.

The issue with Cuba to Miami is that they face the same problem with rafts arriving on their shores undetected. And that is with the USCG and US Navy and busy port with good radar coverage. They are having an increase in Cubans arriving undetected, Europe is having the same issue, and the guys in the boat we found were trying to reach Cape Verde where they have the same problem. To say that we can spot a singular boat adrift when everybody else is struggling to do the same, is unreasonable.



adnj wrote:Marine radar is used to detect any microwave reflective material on the water by use of polarized antennae. It can detect small boats, jet skis, even fishing nets.

Thermal imaging systems such as the Marine FLIR (forward looking infrared) detect any thermal gradients on the surface or shore and can be set to pinpoint certain temperatures- such as engine exhaust or body heat.

If search is a problem, it is the size of the area and/or weather.

Marine radar sends out a pulse that is meant to be reflected from a flat enough surface and bounce back to the antenna. Detecting small objects is always a challenge esp amid the clutter. But factors such as range and distance come into play. If there is not enough reflective surface to give a strong signal, it will not show. If you are too far, it will not show.

Marine FLIR is good for top-down from an aircraft, but this was a boat without an engine and dead bodies. I don't think they will be at a much different temperature than the surrounding environment.

But hey, maybe USCG, NATO, Brazilian Navy are doing something wrong. Maybe you all could inform them on how to deal with these boats adrift.


This isn't those fantasy scenes you look at on those dirty websites. You wanting and wishing something to be true doesn't make it true. However, you with your deluded self believe your false narratives and go with it.

Of the two views put forward, adnj and perv24/7, adnj will be credible as you have always shown to be dishonest in the past and deviant perverts are just hard to believe.

You're talking about two mean girls but you seem to have mistaken this forum for the dirty websites you're usually on.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 11th, 2021, 3:01 pm

u saying becaue they spend a lot that they doing all they can do to stop it? lol. they have a lot more they can do.

look at how much they assign, compared to how much they have that they can assign. they spend more money spying on iran than stopping cubans on boat sailing across.

trump was not hard on illegal immigration. there were two differences between him and all other presidents. 1 was that he outright said he dont want immigration without feigning sympathy, and 2 he tried to build a wall.

wait, clinton tried building a wall, and regan spoke tough on immigration... hmmm.

even the children cages were an obama idea, that was continued in biden's term.

they are not tough on immigration, cause america depends on low paying migrant grunt work. they treat their border security like we treat ours, with fake words. but they do it to get cheap labor, and we do it to facilitate the gun and drug trade.




if america wanted to stop cuban immigration, they just need to put a couple of their gun ships driving east to west with a few patrol craft inbetween adn they good.

considering that their military budget goes into the trillions, they will not even miss those assets.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 3:01 pm

Habit7 wrote:
sMASH wrote:using US cuban migrant situation is a false equivalency. they have significant overseas assets, pushing proxy wars and intimidating other countries' borders.
if america wants, it can block migrants from cuba and haiti. they already sanction countries so effectively, that people starve and dont get medicine except if thy allow.

they have the capability to secure their borders, they choose not to.

prolly we are similar, in that gortt refuses to secure our borders, by continuously stymieing our border security. kamala bought 12boats, pnm park them up.

USA ended the "wet foot, dry foot" policy for Cubans. They spend tremendous resources stopping illegal migration by sea because it a big cause for illegal drugs entering from South and Central America. We just had the Trump administration that was hard on illegal immigration. To say that the US allows for ppl to attempt to come in rickety rafts for them to capsize and dead bodies to wash up on shores of their tourist beaches,isit foolish.

Deal with facts nah, not conspiracies.

And find out if there is a conspiracy for Italy to allow for boats to wash up on their shore too, because we all know how they love African migrants.


What do you know about facts perv24/7? Spending all that time on those dirty websites twisted your mind that you can't tell reality from your fantasy. Your mind has become deluded to such an extent that you make up things and scenarios and believe it's true. Wake up and stop fantasizing about all male PNM members and supporters running a train on you after you foolishly defend PNM's corruption and incompetence.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Habit7 » June 11th, 2021, 3:10 pm

sMASH wrote:u saying becaue they spend a lot that they doing all they can do to stop it? lol. they have a lot more they can do.

look at how much they assign, compared to how much they have that they can assign. they spend more money spying on iran than stopping cubans on boat sailing across.

trump was not hard on illegal immigration. there were two differences between him and all other presidents. 1 was that he outright said he dont want immigration without feigning sympathy, and 2 he tried to build a wall.

wait, clinton tried building a wall, and regan spoke tough on immigration... hmmm.

even the children cages were an obama idea, that was continued in biden's term.

they are not tough on immigration, cause america depends on low paying migrant grunt work. they treat their border security like we treat ours, with fake words. but they do it to get cheap labor, and we do it to facilitate the gun and drug trade.




if america wanted to stop cuban immigration, they just need to put a couple of their gun ships driving east to west with a few patrol craft inbetween adn they good.

considering that their military budget goes into the trillions, they will not even miss those assets.

csb

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 11th, 2021, 4:49 pm

Defend it deh
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Postby zoom rader » June 11th, 2021, 4:57 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Defend it deh
Sex addict Habit 7 will find all sorts of excuses to defend it and then blame Kamala or say UNC started it

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Postby SuperiorMan » June 11th, 2021, 4:58 pm

This country is a dump.

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Postby MaxPower » June 11th, 2021, 5:19 pm

Anyone ever did a subscription with Brazzers?

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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 5:21 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Defend it deh


It can't logically be defended.

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Postby Wraith King » June 11th, 2021, 5:22 pm

MaxPower wrote:Anyone ever did a subscription with Brazzers?


You know who to check.

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby sMASH » June 11th, 2021, 6:11 pm

sooo, did kamala really undermind the vaccination program? orrrr did she drop off maxi load of people to over vaccinate?


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Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Redman » June 11th, 2021, 6:17 pm

The real question is how long has the NIB and Govt known that the NIS scheme is unable to meet it's commitments.

This is not new.


shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Defend it deh

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Re: Re: PNM in Gov't

Postby Mmoney607 » June 11th, 2021, 6:18 pm

sMASH wrote:sooo, did kamala really undermind the vaccination program? orrrr did she drop off maxi load of people to over vaccinate?



Well honestly when I 1st saw those crowds and long lines outside the health centers it reminded me of the protests last year after the police killings and of the vigils. They way is was spread across the country and then there were people driving pass to film every single sight. This was a perfect opportunity to blame kamla. However when you look at the people in the crowd it really was elderlys. I don't think kamla could pay them elderlys to come out.

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Postby zoom rader » June 11th, 2021, 6:39 pm

sMASH wrote:sooo, did kamala really undermind the vaccination program? orrrr did she drop off maxi load of people to over vaccinate?

Really poor taste by the Minister of no health

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Postby Habit7 » June 11th, 2021, 6:54 pm

5711 new vaccinations and 2339 2nd dose vaccinations were done in T&T today as at 4pm.

If Kamla drop off all those ppl, then she finally starting to collaborate with govt covid-19 program

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