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The resilience of Russia's stock market and its economy is a complete mirage masking deeper pain, Yale researchers say

Russia's economy is on a downward spiral – and so long as President Vladimir Putin remains in charge, any money invested in the country is bound to go nowhere, experts told Insider.

That apparently stellar performance of the Russian stock market this year is ultimately an illusion meant to mask deepening pain in the country's economy. The Moscow Exchange, Russia's largest benchmark equity index, has soared 43% since the start of the year, more than doubling the gains seen in the S&P 500, but those gains are deceptive, according to Yale researchers Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian.

The success of Russian stocks this year is partly due to the fact that Russia has frozen inflows and outflows of foreign assets, meaning those who invested in Russian stocks prior to the invasion of Ukraine haven't been able to cash out. It's a move that was intended to prop up Russia's stock market, the researchers said.

Gains are also attributable to Russia's ruble, which recently plummeted to its lowest level against the dollar since the start of the war — something that's also worked to prop up the stock market. That's because Russia mostly produces commodities that are sold using foreign currencies, Tian said. Higher-value currencies are flowing into the nation, which has helped artificially inflate profits and boost Russian stock levels.

"The stock market gains reflect less genuine wealth creation or foreign investment/confidence in Russian markets (which is non-existent) and more merely exchange rate effects," Tian said.

Beneath those inflated numbers, Russia is actually suffering from a huge loss of confidence in its economy – and it's the main reason why investment in the nation will probably continue to wither, even after war in Ukraine ends.

"The Russian stock market performance is very misleading, It is a Roach Motel of assets," Sonnenfeld told Insider. "No one will invest in Russia for a long time. Ukraine, Poland, and the Baltic nations will be far better investment opportunities in the region."

https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... ons-2023-8

[Dohplaydat]

That ruble right now tho....

Exactly what the west always wanted to do, have enough straggle hold on Russia for when the negotiations start.

No one is winning this war, a ceasefire and agreement will have to happen at some point.

Russia will get some or most of what they captured but Ukraine might end up in NATO.

Win win for everyone and the war will be over, I don't see another way out because Ukraine ain't recapturing anything.

Russia invaded Poland in 1939.
Poland was freed from Russia in 1993.
Poland joined NATO in 1997.
Russia gained no territory.

The same thing with Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, etc., rinse and repeat.

Those were different times and circumstances, Russia has kept Crimea and Ossetia.

There's honestly no way out of this for either side anymore.

Ukraine’s sluggish counter-offensive is souring the public mood from TheEconomist https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/0 ... ublic-mood

Deals will have to be made and Russia will gain land most definitely.

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Those were different times and circumstances, Russia has kept Crimea and Ossetia.

There's honestly no way out of this for either side anymore.

Ukraine’s sluggish counter-offensive is souring the public mood from TheEconomist https://www.economist.com/europe/2023/0 ... ublic-mood

Deals will have to be made and Russia will gain land most definitely.

Ukrainian public opinion seems to be steady - even in the East.



https://kiis.com.ua/?lang=eng&cat=repor ... 242&page=1

[sMASH]

Ukrainians are lining up in unending columns to defend thier fatherland against the orcs.

Thats the opinion that matters...

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Smash look your boy gone to fight armies and militias that would be at Wagner's level

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Lets see what ECOWAS can do..

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Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list of a plane which crashed in Russia, killing all 10 on board.

He was believed to be on board the plane.

Earlier, a Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported that the jet was shot down by air defences in Tver region, north of Moscow.

Prigozhin led a failed mutiny against the Russian armed forces in June.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733

[Dohplaydat]

Big news if true, damn Russia is really a freaking mafia.

Also happens on the day India beats them to the moon, probably not a coincidence.

[sMASH]

That was soon....

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... If true

[VexXx Dogg]

:shock:

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list of a plane which crashed in Russia, killing all 10 on board.

He was believed to be on board the plane.

Earlier, a Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported that the jet was shot down by air defences in Tver region, north of Moscow.

Prigozhin led a failed mutiny against the Russian armed forces in June.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733

Putin naysayers have this uncanny likelihood of catching a severe case of unaliveness

[Dizzy28]

BRICS summit also started today in Johannesburg

Big news if true, damn Russia is really a freaking mafia.

Also happens on the day India beats them to the moon, probably not a coincidence.

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Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin was on the passenger list of a plane which crashed in Russia, killing all 10 on board.

He was believed to be on board the plane.

Earlier, a Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone reported that the jet was shot down by air defences in Tver region, north of Moscow.

Prigozhin led a failed mutiny against the Russian armed forces in June.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66599733

Did the US CIA play a part? /s

“If I were Prigozhin, I wouldn’t fire my food taster,” CIA Director William Burns said Thursday (20 July) about the head of the mercenary Wagner Group.

[The_Honourable]

Once he aborted and turned around from the march to moscow, he was a dead man walking.

[sMASH]

Putin was very upset by it...

Cia, possible... Putin more possible.

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... If true

[VexXx Dogg]

... If true

Think he's now a protected US asset?
The old CIA playbook have a chapter on that inno

[sMASH]

... If true

Think he's now a protected US asset?
The old CIA playbook have a chapter on that inno

Putin will not allow that to occur....
The only thing that saved pregozhin was that he is popular with the people and is more a morale boost to keep around.


Listen to putin words after the assault... Pregozhin was a dead man walking.

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The origin if Ukraine fsr right fascists


https://youtu.be/5C7DE2KFJHs?si=i6VYWRwL0wLU1t5r

[sMASH]

Putin offered condolences, so whether is true or not, that's the end of public life for him.

[Dohplaydat]

Putin offered condolences, so whether is true or not, that's the end of public life for him.

Putin "I'm sorry I killed you"

[bluefete]

... If true

You were holding on to hopeless hopes:

Woman killed when Prigozhin plane went down shared poignant pic before doomed flight
The stewardess had reportedly told family members the plane was delayed due to a technical inspection
Neil Fetherstonhaugh Yesterday at 06:51



The poignant last photo taken by the only woman who was killed when the plane reportedly carrying Wagner Group Chief Yevgeny Prigozhin crashed has appeared online.

The photo was posted by flight attendant Kristina Raspopova on Twitter just before she boarded the private jet that went down on August 23.

Ms Raspopova was one of the three crew who, along with seven passengers, was killed when the doomed flight from Moscow to St Petersburg ended up in a field 300km from the Russian capital.

Her last post features a photo taken in an airport lounge while she waited for “mystery repairs” to be carried out on the plane.

The stewardess had reportedly told family members the plane was delayed due to a technical inspection.

https://www.sundayworld.com/news/world- ... 62131.html

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I not hoping.
I just saying that his death might be faked, and he is banished, csuse putin give him one last favor.
The explosion is real, the death might be faked.


But whether or not, this the end of pregozhin effectively

[bluefete]

I not hoping.
I just saying that his death might be faked, and he is banished, csuse putin give him one last favor.
The explosion is real, the death might be faked.


But whether or not, this the end of pregozhin effectively

Definitely agree with your last sentence. But Preghz was a dead man walking from the time he attempted that audacious march on Moscow against Putin. Putin himself said so.

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Rusich, a neo-Nazi paramilitary organization that has reportedly fought alongside Russian troops in Ukraine, issued an ultimatum to Russian President Vladimir Putin where they threatened to withdraw from fighting for Russia after its leader Yan Igorevich Petrovsky was captured in Finland earlier this week.

Russian irregular formations remain willing to threaten to withdraw from combat unilaterally despite recent efforts by Russian military command to purge and suppress insubordination. The "Rusich” Sabotage and Reconnaissance Group, a far-right Russian irregular paramilitary unit, announced on August 25 that the group will refuse to conduct combat missions in Ukraine until the Russian government secures the release of Rusich commander and founding member Yan Petrovsky, who is currently in Finnish custody.[13] Ukrainian authorities requested the extradition of Petrovsky from Finland to Ukraine, where he is suspected of various charges related to terrorism.[14] The Rusich Group accused the Russian government of not meeting its obligations to protect Russians abroad by not securing Petrovsky’s release earlier, and asked why Rusich personnel should protect Russia if the Russian government will not protect Russians.[15] The Rusich Group indicated that it is likely operating on the Robotyne-Verbove line in western Zaporizhia Oblast, a critical area of the frontline where the Russian military command likely cannot afford for any units to rebel and refuse to conduct combat missions.[16] The Russian MoD has notably previously struggled with insubordination and threats of desertion from other Russian units in western Zaporizhia Oblast.[17]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgr ... st-26-2023

[sMASH]

Sounds like Custer's last stand.
The last hurrah

[Dizzy28]

You need to study that the 2023 official map of China was released and it contains part of Russia as Chinese territory.

The Dragon has realized the Bear is toothless

Sounds like Custer's last stand.
The last hurrah

[sMASH]

Western maps have the donbas and crimea as part of Ukraine.

Not every ting on the internet is real

[Dizzy28]

The west isn't aligned with Russia. China is.

Western maps have the donbas and crimea as part of Ukraine.

Not every ting on the internet is real

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