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So who won the pandemic debate?

Poll ended at August 3rd, 2023, 3:48 pm

Antivaxxers - Ah still alive! babylon cyah kill me!
6
43%
Covidians - Small pin does chook hard but it save the world.
6
43%
Me eh care - Allyuh keep arguing nah man, ah wining on dis bumper right here.
2
14%
 
Total votes: 14

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 8th, 2021, 10:51 pm

coltspeed wrote:Not an antyvaxher, i support it for the comorbis ppl, just sharing an experience.
Close relative working amongst an entire fully vaxed staff in south since the available rollouts began, about 85% female staffed company ages ranging from late 20's to late 50's. Since then they periodically fall ill, doctors visits, early leave from bad feeling like abdominal pains, extended menstrual cycles, loss of feeling in arms & legs, unbearable migraines. Everyone took their vax of choice. Those who hid reactions fainted. All of them had no previous symptoms before being vaxed.
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this elsewhere in other work spaces. Also i hope people present their proper medical records to their side the road private doctors to get proper consultation.


MoH say all daz in they head. Is anxiety attacks they getting. Normal symptoms. Tell dem tek two panadol.

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Postby drchaos » October 8th, 2021, 10:52 pm

coltspeed wrote:Not an antyvaxher, i support it for the comorbis ppl, just sharing an experience.
Close relative working amongst an entire fully vaxed staff in south since the available rollouts began, about 85% female staffed company ages ranging from late 20's to late 50's. Since then they periodically fall ill, doctors visits, early leave from bad feeling like abdominal pains, extended menstrual cycles, loss of feeling in arms & legs, unbearable migraines. Everyone took their vax of choice. Those who hid reactions fainted. All of them had no previous symptoms before being vaxed.
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this elsewhere in other work spaces. Also i hope people present their proper medical records to their side the road private doctors to get proper consultation.


Have a few female patients reporting back to me worsening menstrual cramps, periods going haywire post J&J that we administered.

BTW I still have exertional dyspnea :( Doesn't seem to be going away, will check my bloods again next week if it persists.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 8th, 2021, 10:57 pm

drchaos wrote:
coltspeed wrote:Not an antyvaxher, i support it for the comorbis ppl, just sharing an experience.
Close relative working amongst an entire fully vaxed staff in south since the available rollouts began, about 85% female staffed company ages ranging from late 20's to late 50's. Since then they periodically fall ill, doctors visits, early leave from bad feeling like abdominal pains, extended menstrual cycles, loss of feeling in arms & legs, unbearable migraines. Everyone took their vax of choice. Those who hid reactions fainted. All of them had no previous symptoms before being vaxed.
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this elsewhere in other work spaces. Also i hope people present their proper medical records to their side the road private doctors to get proper consultation.


Have a few female patients reporting back to me worsening menstrual cramps, periods going haywire post J&J that we administered.

BTW I still have exertional dyspnea :( Doesn't seem to be going away, will check my bloods again next week if it persists.



Look here

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... after.html

See if your symptoms here

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby st7 » October 8th, 2021, 11:08 pm

drchaos wrote:
coltspeed wrote:Not an antyvaxher, i support it for the comorbis ppl, just sharing an experience.
Close relative working amongst an entire fully vaxed staff in south since the available rollouts began, about 85% female staffed company ages ranging from late 20's to late 50's. Since then they periodically fall ill, doctors visits, early leave from bad feeling like abdominal pains, extended menstrual cycles, loss of feeling in arms & legs, unbearable migraines. Everyone took their vax of choice. Those who hid reactions fainted. All of them had no previous symptoms before being vaxed.
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this elsewhere in other work spaces. Also i hope people present their proper medical records to their side the road private doctors to get proper consultation.


Have a few female patients reporting back to me worsening menstrual cramps, periods going haywire post J&J that we administered.

BTW I still have exertional dyspnea :( Doesn't seem to be going away, will check my bloods again next week if it persists.


i hope u pull thru soon hoss. we may have opposing views on vaccines but a life is still a life 100%

looks like it's a definite side effect of the janssen http://schsa.org/coronavirus/vaccine/pd ... 4-2021.pdf

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby drchaos » October 8th, 2021, 11:29 pm

st7 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
coltspeed wrote:Not an antyvaxher, i support it for the comorbis ppl, just sharing an experience.
Close relative working amongst an entire fully vaxed staff in south since the available rollouts began, about 85% female staffed company ages ranging from late 20's to late 50's. Since then they periodically fall ill, doctors visits, early leave from bad feeling like abdominal pains, extended menstrual cycles, loss of feeling in arms & legs, unbearable migraines. Everyone took their vax of choice. Those who hid reactions fainted. All of them had no previous symptoms before being vaxed.
Not sure if anyone else is experiencing this elsewhere in other work spaces. Also i hope people present their proper medical records to their side the road private doctors to get proper consultation.


Have a few female patients reporting back to me worsening menstrual cramps, periods going haywire post J&J that we administered.

BTW I still have exertional dyspnea :( Doesn't seem to be going away, will check my bloods again next week if it persists.


i hope u pull thru soon hoss. we may have opposing views on vaccines but a life is still a life 100%

looks like it's a definite side effect of the janssen http://schsa.org/coronavirus/vaccine/pd ... 4-2021.pdf


Thanks man, hoping this clears up.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby De Dragon » October 9th, 2021, 12:08 am

Redman wrote:0X ok
De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:As I said the correlation is worthy of more investigation.


Of course the reality is that the UP experience was matched in Goa with similarities in the results.
And Mexico.

Off patent meds don't make money for anyone.

:roll:
Merck makes Ivermectin.
Merck currently doesn't make a Covid-19 vaccine.
Merck currently has advised AGAINST using Ivermectin for Covid-19
It doesn't want to get sued if things don't go right....
Its too cheap to make much money from so don't need to push it.
Cya... For a low profit product.

Can't get sued if someone intentionally misuses it
Cheap used in large quantities adds up
They could have simply remained silent


Ivermectin is off patent and available on generic form.

In the meantime Merck was able to attract 1.2B in Govt funding to develop a new patented drug, that they now have first to mkt advantage on.

Having a new drug whose development was paid for, means 10+ years high value sales, that are globally protected.

Still doesn't negate the reasons for downplaying Ivermectin by Merck.
Either you believe in Big Pharma's greed or you don't

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby timelapse » October 9th, 2021, 6:45 am

De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:0X ok
De Dragon wrote:
sMASH wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
Redman wrote:As I said the correlation is worthy of more investigation.


Of course the reality is that the UP experience was matched in Goa with similarities in the results.
And Mexico.

Off patent meds don't make money for anyone.

:roll:
Merck makes Ivermectin.
Merck currently doesn't make a Covid-19 vaccine.
Merck currently has advised AGAINST using Ivermectin for Covid-19
It doesn't want to get sued if things don't go right....
Its too cheap to make much money from so don't need to push it.
Cya... For a low profit product.

Can't get sued if someone intentionally misuses it
Cheap used in large quantities adds up
They could have simply remained silent


Ivermectin is off patent and available on generic form.

In the meantime Merck was able to attract 1.2B in Govt funding to develop a new patented drug, that they now have first to mkt advantage on.

Having a new drug whose development was paid for, means 10+ years high value sales, that are globally protected.

Still doesn't negate the reasons for downplaying Ivermectin by Merck.
Either you believe in Big Pharma's greed or you don't
Ivermectin is big veterinarian.Use Zentel instead.

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Postby aaron17 » October 9th, 2021, 11:50 am

U mean this?



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Postby timelapse » October 9th, 2021, 11:58 am

aaron17 wrote:U mean this?


Thats the thing self.It is proven to be safer on humans than Ivermectin.There is even a children's dosage

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby SuperiorMan » October 9th, 2021, 1:01 pm

drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:Tide pods contain Ivermectin.
Smash u know Zentel does the same thing right?


please ignore this ... Ivermectin and Albendazole are two completely different drugs with completely different mechanisms of action.


Damn right.

Some people on here want to advertise their dunceness yes.

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Postby aaron17 » October 9th, 2021, 2:16 pm

A good chuckle..about the bbc article relating to ivermectin


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Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 2:33 pm

aaron17 wrote:A good chuckle..about the bbc article relating to ivermectin




I would have liked to hear some of our popular investigative journalists do their take on the whole vaccination and maybe this ivermectin studies as an education to the public. But I guess the MOH kinda monopolise the situation in the name of “truth”. I guess they only good to cover coke in juice tins and spirits haunting man house in the bush. Lol

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby aaron17 » October 9th, 2021, 2:40 pm

Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?

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Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 2:50 pm

aaron17 wrote:Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?



Dude

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948

He who has money controls information. Fauci and dem here will sniper you down. Come better than that. Even of they did use some ingredient remotely suspicious in these vaccines, they would be foolish to admit it. No loose ends. Brilliant.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby timelapse » October 9th, 2021, 4:15 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:Tide pods contain Ivermectin.
Smash u know Zentel does the same thing right?


please ignore this ... Ivermectin and Albendazole are two completely different drugs with completely different mechanisms of action.


Damn right.

Some people on here want to advertise their dunceness yes.


I guess that flew over both of your heads.
I am playing devil's advocate and highlighting the fact that people are comparing Ivermectin to vaccines.
But dunce, Ivermectin is used to treat gastrointestinal worms and so is Albendazole.
Dunce, thats what Ivermectin does,not treat viruses.
So dunce, if you want a proper comparison for a dewormer, compare it to another dewormer.
Other than that, haul your piehole about Ivermectin being used as a Covid treatment, because the same logic applies.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby SuperiorMan » October 9th, 2021, 4:25 pm

timelapse wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:Tide pods contain Ivermectin.
Smash u know Zentel does the same thing right?


please ignore this ... Ivermectin and Albendazole are two completely different drugs with completely different mechanisms of action.


Damn right.

Some people on here want to advertise their dunceness yes.


I guess that flew over both of your heads.
I am playing devil's advocate and highlighting the fact that people are comparing Ivermectin to vaccines.
But dunce, Ivermectin is used to treat gastrointestinal worms and so is Albendazole.
Dunce, thats what Ivermectin does,not treat viruses.
So dunce, if you want a proper comparison for a dewormer, compare it to another dewormer.
Other than that, haul your piehole about Ivermectin being used as a Covid treatment, because the same logic applies.


Hello Mutt,

Please don't try educating an actual doctor on this forum you dunce mutt. He put you in his place. Stick to the labourer work and taking pics of you drinking your beers with your grimy hands nasty hands in your hammock in your shack.

Typical trinis, dumb and uneducated and want to advertise their dunceness to the world but when they get catch by an actual doctor they backtracking

As the good doctor said (not you who probably couldn't pass common entrance and was an embarrassment to the family for being a mutt and a loser) two are very different and have different mechanisms of actions. If you studied pharmacology (which you probably couldn't even pronounce) you would understand that.

Tsk tsk...

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby ed360123 » October 9th, 2021, 4:58 pm

eitech wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?



Dude

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948

He who has money controls information. Fauci and dem here will sniper you down. Come better than that. Even of they did use some ingredient remotely suspicious in these vaccines, they would be foolish to admit it. No loose ends. Brilliant.
What are you even talking about?

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 5:09 pm

ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?



Dude

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948

He who has money controls information. Fauci and dem here will sniper you down. Come better than that. Even of they did use some ingredient remotely suspicious in these vaccines, they would be foolish to admit it. No loose ends. Brilliant.
What are you even talking about?


You dont worry your little mind

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Postby ed360123 » October 9th, 2021, 5:21 pm

eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?



Dude

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948

He who has money controls information. Fauci and dem here will sniper you down. Come better than that. Even of they did use some ingredient remotely suspicious in these vaccines, they would be foolish to admit it. No loose ends. Brilliant.
What are you even talking about?


You dont worry your little mind
I could do without the condescension, but if you have an issue with fetal cells, a significant number of drugs have also been tested using them, including:

acetaminophen (panadol)
aspirin
ibuprofen
Tylenol
Pepto Bismol
Tums
Lipitor
Motrin
Ex-Lax
Benadryl
Sudafed
Preparation H
Claritin
Prilosec
Zoloft

Its not exactly some huge secret they're hiding from you.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 5:30 pm

ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?



Dude

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948

He who has money controls information. Fauci and dem here will sniper you down. Come better than that. Even of they did use some ingredient remotely suspicious in these vaccines, they would be foolish to admit it. No loose ends. Brilliant.
What are you even talking about?


You dont worry your little mind
I could do without the condescension, but if you have an issue with fetal cells, a significant number of drugs have also been tested using them, including:

acetaminophen (panadol)
aspirin
ibuprofen
Tylenol
Pepto Bismol
Tums
Lipitor
Motrin
Ex-Lax
Benadryl
Sudafed
Preparation H
Claritin
Prilosec
Zoloft

Its not exactly some huge secret they're hiding from you.


Ok so firstly i really doh care what you consider to be condescending or not, and secondly your replying to the wrong guy. I did post the online article. Go back and see who asked the question.

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Postby ed360123 » October 9th, 2021, 5:41 pm

eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
aaron17 wrote:Y'all hearing about pfizer Fetal Cells?



Dude

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-529913215948

He who has money controls information. Fauci and dem here will sniper you down. Come better than that. Even of they did use some ingredient remotely suspicious in these vaccines, they would be foolish to admit it. No loose ends. Brilliant.
What are you even talking about?


You dont worry your little mind
I could do without the condescension, but if you have an issue with fetal cells, a significant number of drugs have also been tested using them, including:

acetaminophen (panadol)
aspirin
ibuprofen
Tylenol
Pepto Bismol
Tums
Lipitor
Motrin
Ex-Lax
Benadryl
Sudafed
Preparation H
Claritin
Prilosec
Zoloft

Its not exactly some huge secret they're hiding from you.


Ok so firstly i really doh care what you consider to be condescending or not, and secondly your replying to the wrong guy. I did post the online article. Go back and see who asked the question.
Yes, I originally replied to the wrong person. You could have just told me that instead of replying with whatever that was.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby timelapse » October 9th, 2021, 5:57 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:
timelapse wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:Tide pods contain Ivermectin.
Smash u know Zentel does the same thing right?


please ignore this ... Ivermectin and Albendazole are two completely different drugs with completely different mechanisms of action.


Damn right.

Some people on here want to advertise their dunceness yes.


I guess that flew over both of your heads.
I am playing devil's advocate and highlighting the fact that people are comparing Ivermectin to vaccines.
But dunce, Ivermectin is used to treat gastrointestinal worms and so is Albendazole.
Dunce, thats what Ivermectin does,not treat viruses.
So dunce, if you want a proper comparison for a dewormer, compare it to another dewormer.
Other than that, haul your piehole about Ivermectin being used as a Covid treatment, because the same logic applies.


Hello Mutt,

Please don't try educating an actual doctor on this forum you dunce mutt. He put you in his place. Stick to the labourer work and taking pics of you drinking your beers with your grimy hands nasty hands in your hammock in your shack.

Typical trinis, dumb and uneducated and want to advertise their dunceness to the world but when they get catch by an actual doctor they backtracking

As the good doctor said (not you who probably couldn't pass common entrance and was an embarrassment to the family for being a mutt and a loser) two are very different and have different mechanisms of actions. If you studied pharmacology (which you probably couldn't even pronounce) you would understand that.

Tsk tsk...
So that's where you were hiding RedVevo.
Begone you tapeworm in the name of Ivermectin.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 6:16 pm

So the local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid are either lying or got extremely luckly or both?

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Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 6:16 pm

The local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid successfully are either lying or got extremely lucky.

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Postby timelapse » October 9th, 2021, 6:18 pm

eitech wrote:The local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid successfully are either lying or got extremely lucky.
How did they end up using Ivermectin in the first place?
Why not other things?

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Postby SuperiorMan » October 9th, 2021, 6:21 pm

timelapse wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
timelapse wrote:
SuperiorMan wrote:
drchaos wrote:
timelapse wrote:Tide pods contain Ivermectin.
Smash u know Zentel does the same thing right?


please ignore this ... Ivermectin and Albendazole are two completely different drugs with completely different mechanisms of action.


Damn right.

Some people on here want to advertise their dunceness yes.


I guess that flew over both of your heads.
I am playing devil's advocate and highlighting the fact that people are comparing Ivermectin to vaccines.
But dunce, Ivermectin is used to treat gastrointestinal worms and so is Albendazole.
Dunce, thats what Ivermectin does,not treat viruses.
So dunce, if you want a proper comparison for a dewormer, compare it to another dewormer.
Other than that, haul your piehole about Ivermectin being used as a Covid treatment, because the same logic applies.


Hello Mutt,

Please don't try educating an actual doctor on this forum you dunce mutt. He put you in his place. Stick to the labourer work and taking pics of you drinking your beers with your grimy hands nasty hands in your hammock in your shack.

Typical trinis, dumb and uneducated and want to advertise their dunceness to the world but when they get catch by an actual doctor they backtracking

As the good doctor said (not you who probably couldn't pass common entrance and was an embarrassment to the family for being a mutt and a loser) two are very different and have different mechanisms of actions. If you studied pharmacology (which you probably couldn't even pronounce) you would understand that.

Tsk tsk...
So that's where you were hiding RedVevo.
Begone you tapeworm in the name of Ivermectin.


lol hush your mouth mutt.

Only mutts like you have tapeworm. No wonder you so know about Ivermectin :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 6:34 pm

timelapse wrote:
eitech wrote:The local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid successfully are either lying or got extremely lucky.
How did they end up using Ivermectin in the first place?
Why not other things?


Now read properly eh. The claim by these people is that ivermectin allegedly showed good antiviral properties albeit not supported by the mainstream international institutions due to a lack of or insufficient trials data. I guess these doctors did their own private trials.

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Postby timelapse » October 9th, 2021, 6:41 pm

eitech wrote:
timelapse wrote:
eitech wrote:The local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid successfully are either lying or got extremely lucky.
How did they end up using Ivermectin in the first place?
Why not other things?


Now read properly eh. The claim by these people is that ivermectin allegedly showed good antiviral properties albeit not supported by the mainstream international institutions due to a lack of or insufficient trials data. I guess these doctors did their own private trials.
I understand that,but am very curious to know if they tried other things, Malaria medication as a random example.
Still the question still remains unanswered.Why Ivermectin and not something else?

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 9th, 2021, 7:15 pm

timelapse wrote:
eitech wrote:
timelapse wrote:
eitech wrote:The local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid successfully are either lying or got extremely lucky.
How did they end up using Ivermectin in the first place?
Why not other things?


Now read properly eh. The claim by these people is that ivermectin allegedly showed good antiviral properties albeit not supported by the mainstream international institutions due to a lack of or insufficient trials data. I guess these doctors did their own private trials.
I understand that,but am very curious to know if they tried other things, Malaria medication as a random example.
Still the question still remains unanswered.Why Ivermectin and not something else?


Maybe it’s a cheaper medication, easier to access over the counter? Maybe they did try other medication and choose the ivermectin

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Postby adnj » October 9th, 2021, 7:28 pm

eitech wrote:
timelapse wrote:
eitech wrote:
timelapse wrote:
eitech wrote:The local and international people who used ivermectin and claimed to treat covid successfully are either lying or got extremely lucky.
How did they end up using Ivermectin in the first place?
Why not other things?


Now read properly eh. The claim by these people is that ivermectin allegedly showed good antiviral properties albeit not supported by the mainstream international institutions due to a lack of or insufficient trials data. I guess these doctors did their own private trials.
I understand that,but am very curious to know if they tried other things, Malaria medication as a random example.
Still the question still remains unanswered.Why Ivermectin and not something else?


Maybe it’s a cheaper medication, easier to access over the counter? Maybe they did try other medication and choose the ivermectin
Coronavirus Drug and Treatment Tracker

The Covid-19 pandemic is one of the greatest challenges modern medicine has ever faced. Doctors and scientists are scrambling to find treatments and drugs that can save the lives of infected people and perhaps even prevent them from getting sick in the first place.

Below is an updated list of 25 of the most-talked-about treatments for the coronavirus. While some are accumulating evidence that they’re effective, most are still at early stages of research. We also included a warning about a few that are just bunk.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ments.html

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