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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 11th, 2024, 2:25 pm

Recent Israeli aggression has killed 2 hostages and injured 8 others so far.

Its not about rescuing the hostages... Was never about rescuing them.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » February 11th, 2024, 3:34 pm

Egypt goes from threatening to dissolve a 50 year old peace deal to giving the go-ahead to a Rafah invasion - in one day.

There must be something serious going on for the Egyptian leadership to have that kind of public policy reversal.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » February 12th, 2024, 11:01 am

Israeli hostages were being held right in the middle of 1.2 million Palestinians that have squeezed into Rafah.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 12th, 2024, 6:09 pm

They look healthy, unlike the 80 idf bombed or shot already.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » February 12th, 2024, 6:24 pm

Al Jezeera's coverage of the hostage rescue:

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IDF must have hit a nerve.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » February 12th, 2024, 6:52 pm

adnj wrote:Al Jezeera's coverage of the hostage rescue:

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IDF must have hit a nerve.
Al Jazeera did cover it. Did you even *try* googling?
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » February 12th, 2024, 8:24 pm

Lots of nerves are getting hit.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » February 13th, 2024, 1:05 pm

One would believe that a loving father would send his own family to a place of safety in times of war.

But at the end of WW2, the six children in the Führerbunker were all poisoned by their own parents.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Bad Dog » February 13th, 2024, 7:19 pm

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 13th, 2024, 8:19 pm

adnj wrote:Lots of nerves are getting hit.
But hardly any hamas and even less hostages...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 13th, 2024, 8:20 pm

How is this hunting hamas?
Or is the goal genocide?
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby zoom rader » February 13th, 2024, 10:42 pm

sMASH wrote:How is this hunting hamas?
Or is the goal genocide?
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Stoick » February 14th, 2024, 8:58 am

This is just a more agressive continuation of what Israel has been subjecting the Palestinians to since the 1940's. it is obvious that Priority 1 is to cause as much destruction to Gaza as they can accomplish with as much civillian casualities as possible in order to create mass emigration. Priority No. 2 is to kill Hamas operatives. If they save some hostages along the way, then that is a plus.

Israel does not realise what they have created with the tens of thousands of orphans they have made in the most barbaric way.
You think they are just going to say "well meh family gone, what yuh go do .... leh meh just move on yes...". No. Israel has just sown the seeds for a continual cycle of violence and destruction.

Hamas may have done some really horrible things on October 7th. There is no excuse for that. However, there is a reason why it happened. People don't just wake up and decide to do those things. These things happen due to the seeds of opression and violence Israel has been sowing since the 1940's. Israel has no one to blame but themselves.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2024, 4:41 pm

They know what they created... Its the same as 9/11... A reason to strike hard.


They will not send nukes and end it in one swoop.
But every day, cut down 10, then they resist, then cut down a few hundred. Settle bakc to 10 then every few years a few thousand.

And that will go on and on.




They call it mowing the grass.

Also, all these skirmishes is how they feild trial their population control weapons.

Nearly every police force around the world employs arms or tactics that idf developed in west bank.

... Yes, tactics...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2024, 4:43 pm

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 14th, 2024, 8:55 pm

The concerned Muslims of TT are protesting outside the wrong embassy. Hamas rejected a Qatari/Egyptian mediated ceasefire last week. Instead they replied with their own one containing insane demands. That makes it two ceasefire proposals rejected since December by Hamas.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » February 14th, 2024, 9:00 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:The concerned Muslims of TT are protesting outside the wrong embassy. Hamas rejected a Qatari/Egyptian mediated ceasefire last week. Instead they replied with their own one containing insane demands. That makes it two ceasefire proposals rejected since December by Hamas.
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Netanyahu just vetoed further talks in Egypt, against both families of hostages *and* his own cabinet.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 14th, 2024, 10:42 pm

Us House passed an Anti Assad bill today. The real kicker is that of the 32 nays Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Green are there together with AOC and Jamal Bowman.

Even Tlaib was like maybe Assad is a bit too much and was a yes.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2024, 11:12 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:The concerned Muslims of TT are protesting outside the wrong embassy. Hamas rejected a Qatari/Egyptian mediated ceasefire last week. Instead they replied with their own one containing insane demands. That makes it two ceasefire proposals rejected since December by Hamas.
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That wasn't a ceasefire. Netanyahu wanted the release of the hostages, allowance of small aid but still hunt hamas...

Hamas wanted levels of ceasefire, with staggard release of the hostages, to work towards a permanent cease fire.


Nobody in their right mind would accept what bibi proposed.

U have the right to resist the occupation.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 14th, 2024, 11:13 pm

Israel rescued 2 hostages, but killed 3 in the attempt.


Might as well leave them so all five would be alive.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 15th, 2024, 9:47 am

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The concerned Muslims of TT are protesting outside the wrong embassy. Hamas rejected a Qatari/Egyptian mediated ceasefire last week. Instead they replied with their own one containing insane demands. That makes it two ceasefire proposals rejected since December by Hamas. Screenshot_20240214-204725.jpg
That wasn't a ceasefire. Netanyahu wanted the release of the hostages, allowance of small aid but still hunt hamas...

Hamas wanted levels of ceasefire, with staggard release of the hostages, to work towards a permanent cease fire.


Nobody in their right mind would accept what bibi proposed.

U have the right to resist the occupation.


Israelis are winning the war, Hamas are loosing.
Last I checked the victors dictate the terms not the losers.
A ceasefire was offered whether you think the terms are poor. The alternative is continued war.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby ed360123 » February 15th, 2024, 10:19 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The concerned Muslims of TT are protesting outside the wrong embassy. Hamas rejected a Qatari/Egyptian mediated ceasefire last week. Instead they replied with their own one containing insane demands. That makes it two ceasefire proposals rejected since December by Hamas. Screenshot_20240214-204725.jpg
That wasn't a ceasefire. Netanyahu wanted the release of the hostages, allowance of small aid but still hunt hamas...

Hamas wanted levels of ceasefire, with staggard release of the hostages, to work towards a permanent cease fire.


Nobody in their right mind would accept what bibi proposed.

U have the right to resist the occupation.


Israelis are winning the war, Hamas are loosing.
Last I checked the victors dictate the terms not the losers.
A ceasefire was offered whether you think the terms are poor. The alternative is continued war.
"A ceasefire was offered whether you think the terms are poor. The alternative is continued war."

Does this not also apply to the Israelis? In addition to cancelling further talks in Egypt, Netanyahu also dismissed an outline put together by his own intelligence agencies.
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby alfa » February 15th, 2024, 10:30 am

People still thinking this was ever about hostages, that was so 2023 lol

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 15th, 2024, 11:27 am

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:The concerned Muslims of TT are protesting outside the wrong embassy. Hamas rejected a Qatari/Egyptian mediated ceasefire last week. Instead they replied with their own one containing insane demands. That makes it two ceasefire proposals rejected since December by Hamas. Screenshot_20240214-204725.jpg
That wasn't a ceasefire. Netanyahu wanted the release of the hostages, allowance of small aid but still hunt hamas...

Hamas wanted levels of ceasefire, with staggard release of the hostages, to work towards a permanent cease fire.


Nobody in their right mind would accept what bibi proposed.

U have the right to resist the occupation.


Israelis are winning the war, Hamas are loosing.
Last I checked the victors dictate the terms not the losers.
A ceasefire was offered whether you think the terms are poor. The alternative is continued war.
Isrealies are killing out the Palestinians... Their stated aim is to recover hostages and route hamas.


Israelis are killing more hostages than extracting.
Hamas has resumed some administration of north and central gaza. So routing hamas is not possible.

So, according their own stated objectives, they are not winning.
But, if by winning they mean destroying the Palestinian civilization and extermination of the bloodlines, then yes, Israel is winning.




USAI doesn't have the propaganda, ethical, justification high ground here... Is just that nobody is willing to stop them militarily.


Its like the nazis and the European jews... Nobody was willing to stop them before they killed the 6 million jews

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby adnj » February 15th, 2024, 12:56 pm

This was true ten years ago, and it's still true today.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 15th, 2024, 1:14 pm

adnj wrote:This was true ten years ago, and it's still true today.

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If it was true in the 1930's when Europe was transferring its "Jewish problem" into this territory , all this carnage would have been avoided.

It is right for people to resist occupation.
It is wrong to genocide people.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 15th, 2024, 2:06 pm

Zionists seeing Christmas these days
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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 15th, 2024, 2:19 pm

sMASH wrote:Zionists seeing Christmas these days IMG_20240215_140454.jpg


Its a good thing then that Ben Gvir whilst being the National Security Minister is not a member of the War Cabinet - the people who make the actual decisions for the War in Gaza.

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby sMASH » February 15th, 2024, 5:36 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Zionists seeing Christmas these days IMG_20240215_140454.jpg


Its a good thing then that Ben Gvir whilst being the National Security Minister is not a member of the War Cabinet - the people who make the actual decisions for the War in Gaza.

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A good thing that the idf on the ground don't repeat the guidance of the icj but chant the genocidal slogans from the right wing genocidal psychopaths.... Officially in power or unofficially...

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Re: What's going on in the Middle East?

Postby Dizzy28 » February 15th, 2024, 6:41 pm

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Zionists seeing Christmas these days IMG_20240215_140454.jpg


Its a good thing then that Ben Gvir whilst being the National Security Minister is not a member of the War Cabinet - the people who make the actual decisions for the War in Gaza.

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A good thing that the idf on the ground don't repeat the guidance of the icj but chant the genocidal slogans from the right wing genocidal psychopaths.... Officially in power or unofficially...
The leader of the third largest political party in South Africa chants genocidal slogans all the time.

Rhetoric is just that ..rhetoric.

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