Government achievement thread (PNM EDITION 2015-2025)

[dude2014]

Oversight, overnight, and who overbright.
No need to challenge the New Marriage Act, wait til it is proclaimed.
Just for information, when did it pass through the two houses of Parliament?

You all do know that they intend to Repeal the Insurance Act and are inviting comments.
Anyone care to comment?

And as for the AG, leave Johnny Suekaran, Husam Al Wari son alone. Incidently his grand pappy was opposed to the PNM .......... His foot is a permanent fixture in his mouth or was it his bu#t and then his mouth .......

[matr1x]

How is turd man, I mean rowley going?

[drchaos]

Probably grinding on some smoking hot jail bait, tis the season after all.

[matr1x]

Probably grinding on some smoking hot jail bait, tis the season after all.

Can't blame him. You see his wife? Jesus couldn't fix dat

[drchaos]

Probably grinding on some smoking hot jail bait, tis the season after all.

Can't blame him. You see his wife? Jesus couldn't fix dat

Sharon? Nah man she could geh it at least twice ... I would hit that given the opportunity.

[matr1x]

Then burn your duck when you realize where you put it.

She face looks like it stretch back, like the alien from men in black

[De Dragon]

despite his frustration the AG should learn to shut up and just move forward with his administration's legislative agenda

No, let him be just his usual autocratic. arrogant self. Good legislation will get support. Getting buy in, and cooperation from the Opposition is key Shoving it down people's throats will get you resistance and "frustration".

[De Dragon]

Call me what you want breds-you still cannot move beyond the name calling...which seems to make you feel above a form 2 level of maturity.
Which again based on your multiple posts is apparently important to you ...this being an anonymous forum and all.

Facts remain

Simple Majorities are a tool that removes the ability of an overly politically driven opposition preventing any progress on the legislative agenda.
Bills passed with Sim Maj are limited in their scope.

Its in place as are the checks and balances.

Up to and until the legislation is made public your chest burn over the AG and his direction remain uninformed emotional rhetoric.

At the point of disclosure....I might very well take issue with it,based on what it is.

Oversite?

Are not these bills debated in Parliament?
Isnt it open to public comment and the NORMAL process of PUBLIC oversite as are any of the other bills?
And yes the High Court remains the place where ALL challenges can be heard expeditiously and based on the decision dealt with accordingly.

UNC and their crackshot, hair trigger legal teams with Silks bought and paid for..file a complaint on the Marriage Act yet?
De Labastide come out and say anything?
For something so clear cut he taking long.

Habit 7 would be proud of your obdurate, stubborn resistance to logic and facts.
No matter how much debate in Parliament, or public opposition to legislation, once a party has a majority, simple or otherwise, they WILL pass whatever legislation they want. Perfect example being the Marriage Bill. Didn't the Hindu population through their unofficial spokesman Sat oppose it? Didn't the Opposition oppose it? What did Muhammad(pbuh) Grandson do? Changed the preamble to make it simple majority required and pass it. Didn't he also arrogantly and nastily say that he would defend it in court knowing Fully well that passage in the form it did, made it open to court challenges?
You also continue to stubbornly ignore where I don't dispute that simple majorities have their place, but what the Ag is intending is devious and reeks of contempt for US.

[Redman]

Habit 7 would be proud of your obdurate, stubborn resistance to logic and facts.

I going an drop this on somebody some day

So..if in the govts mind the the opposition was being obstructionist ...and they modified the bill so as to qual for Simp Maj...The AG used the space allowed by the constitution to do what they think is right(they are representing people as well)

Testing it in court means that the AG will have to justify his position as will who ever challenges it....(HAS any One?)
The courts have the ability and jurisdiction to deal with this away from the UNC/PNM politics.

You also continue to stubbornly ignore where I don't dispute that simple majorities have their place, but what the Ag is intending is devious and reeks of contempt for US.

How is it devious if none of us have seen the legislation?
How does it reek of contempt if we are yet to know what the bills contain?

[matr1x]

They will steamroller legislation the requires no special majority. What's worse, is unless the media picks up on a bad bill, we will hear little.

[drchaos]

Then burn your duck when you realize where you put it.

She face looks like it stretch back, like the alien from men in black

Boy I telling you ... Behind that stretch back face there is a freak waiting to be unleashed ....

[De Dragon]

Habit 7 would be proud of your obdurate, stubborn resistance to logic and facts.

I going an drop this on somebody some day

So..if in the govts mind the the opposition was being obstructionist ...and they modified the bill so as to qual for Simp Maj...The AG used the space allowed by the constitution to do what they think is right(they are representing people as well)

Testing it in court means that the AG will have to justify his position as will who ever challenges it....(HAS any One?)
The courts have the ability and jurisdiction to deal with this away from the UNC/PNM politics.

You also continue to stubbornly ignore where I don't dispute that simple majorities have their place, but what the Ag is intending is devious and reeks of contempt for US.

How is it devious if none of us have seen the legislation?
How does it reek of contempt if we are yet to know what the bills contain?

Once again playing smart with foolishness'. A bill that requires a 3/5 or greater majority does so for a reason. Normally that reason is because it affects citizens' fundamental rights. To twist it simply to make it a minority to get it passed is nasty and shows gross incompetence. Never in our history have we seen an open admission by an AG, that he cannot perform his role through skill, leadership and charisma. Instead be autocratic and use your Parliamentary majority to ram it down our throats. Then waste time, resources and effort to defend it in court for years. Of course this kanthole , and his admirers, knows it is not his money, time, or effort.
I also cannot profess to know to how many 13 or 14 year olds, or their parents were sufficiently aggrieved, or sufficiently wealthy, to challenge the law in court.

[Redman]

Once again playing smart with foolishness'. A bill that requires a 3/5 or greater majority does so for a reason. Normally that reason is because it affects citizens' fundamental rights. To twist it simply to make it a minority to get it passed is nasty and shows gross incompetence

But this 'twist' would have curtailed the impact on the constitutional rights to a point where the rules set in the constitution would have been satisfied.The contents of the bill that made it require a 3/5 maj were removed.
Therefore obviously it did not require the 3/5.


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Never in our history have we seen an open admission by an AG, that he cannot perform his role through skill, leadership and charisma.

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Never in history have we had an opposition with such a self serving political agenda....
How does charisma help when the opposition is bringing 'temporary' senators that claim that puberty is affected by climate.???
By simple fact that every govt passes simple majority law means that in your words they were unable to perform their role.

Of course this kanthole , and his admirers, knows it is not his money, time, or effort.
I also cannot profess to know to how many 13 or 14 year olds, or their parents were sufficiently aggrieved, or sufficiently wealthy, to challenge the law in court.

Yep with the High Court dealing with calypso in a few days crap like constitutional rights will take years....of course that depends on these same 14 year old children and their parents wanting to challenge it.
Anybody move yet?
So tell me HOW they were aggrieved.
You profess knowledge about that?

[De Dragon]

Once again, Dimanche Gras was Sunday. The court deemed it sufficiently urgent, and simple enough to deal with in a couple days BEFORE the actual competition. My God, are you seriously comparing this to a challenge to the Marriage act in complexity?
Removing a preamble to a Bill is not making it such that it does not affect citizens' rights, especially as the Bill was passed precisely with what was objected to. As much as it burns you personally, this AG is an incompetent, arrogant and autocratic arse, who has basically thrown his hands in the air and said that he is unable to perform his function without resorting to strong arm tactics that deny people their rights.

[Redman]

So the court will move fast if they deem it sufficiently urgent and egregious enough to warrant it.
The point was not the act (or a comparison of the two)but the ability or courts to move quickly....
Based on the current constitution/Parliamentary law they have that power.
So if its serious enough and warrants it-the speed you complained about remains your unjustified and speculative opinion.

You cant say what was necessary to water down the MA in order to be passed by Sim Maj...but the rules in the constitution set those guidelines and as such it seems that it was passed within those guidelines.

Can you name these rights that people have been denied?

[De Dragon]

So the court will move fast if they deem it sufficiently urgent and egregious enough to warrant it.
The point was not the act (or a comparison of the two)but the ability or courts to move quickly....
Based on the current constitution/Parliamentary law they have that power.
So if its serious enough and warrants it-the speed you complained about remains your unjustified and speculative opinion.

You cant say what was necessary to water down the MA in order to be passed by Sim Maj...but the rules in the constitution set those guidelines and as such it seems that it was passed within those guidelines.

Can you name these rights that people have been denied?

Like I said, if you can afford to piss away 4 years of your life and hundreds of thousands of dollars on a Constitutional challenge, then don't assume that everyone else can. You're being facetious by ascribing the ability of the court to move quickly in a simple matter like a calypso competition, as opposed to the length of time, and money required to mount constitutional challenges. If someone wanted to get married at an age of less than 18, because that is their custom, they are now forbidden to do so unless they take it to court.
You seem hung up specific rights so the Hindu Marriage Act which had provided for marriage under 18 is what you're looking for. Warranted doesn't always translate to urgent.

[drchaos]

I don't understand something ... If Gangs illegal ... why so many still roaming around normel normel ... Spanish and he crew, Sheron, Rasta city, De Muslims, coffee street boys in sando, just too name a few.

[drchaos]

Ey allu remember when manning's gov had set up his own personal stasi? I wonder what is this Government policy on this since its mostly the same jokers from Manning's days.

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

I don't understand something ... If Gangs illegal ... why so many still roaming around normel normel ... Spanish and he crew, Sheron, Rasta city, De Muslims, coffee street boys in sando, just too name a few.

Most likely loopholes in the law that prevents convictions. Maybe someone else can flesh it out. That's why the SOE made no dent in the long run.

[Redman]

The dent is that we now have X 000 young men who spent time in prison.

[drchaos]

Yeah the SOE was just a sham to make their crime numbers look low.

[matr1x]

Then burn your duck when you realize where you put it.

She face looks like it stretch back, like the alien from men in black

Boy I telling you ... Behind that stretch back face there is a freak waiting to be unleashed ....

Freak is the right. Freak of nature.

[De Dragon]

The dent is that we now have X 000 young men who spent time in prison.

Yes, we never had that before

[dude2014]

Did the Government managed to pull wool over we eye about the $5m US dollar loan to Grand Bay, the company that owns Trinidad Tissue? What is the status of the Guarantee from the Govt to the Exim Bank?

They dint know anything about it. This week de minister of Agri toured their plant and was interested in the calcium carbonate by product for Agri purposes.

[mrtrini45]

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170310 ... c-shutdown

‘Contract’ behind TDC shutdown*

Published on Mar 10, 2017, 9:41 pm AST
By Anna Ramdass
anna.ramdass@trinidadexpress.com


The Tourism Development Com­pany (TDC) is being shut down after “startling revelations” surrounding a contract awarded to a ­purported People’s National Movement (PNM) financier on the Maracas Bay ­project. This allegation is being made by president of the Communications Workers’ Union (CWU) Joseph Remy, who said yesterday the union will challenge Cabinet’s decision to dissolve the TDC. He questioned the timing of this move, pointing out it comes on the heels of an investigation that is now being conducted into the award of a contract by the TDC in 2016.
Remy claimed a lot of questions have been left unanswered about the contract, which was awarded to a purported PNM financier for the clearing and desilting of drains along the Mara­cas Bay car park.


“Based on information gleaned so far, we have been advised that some startling revelations have been made and, as such, there is now this haste to close down the TDC before that information reaches the public domain,” he stated.
On Thursday, Tourism Minister Shamfa Cudjoe announced the TDC would be dissolved and two separate entities would be established to market Trinidad and Tobago sepa­rately. She also said a regulatory authority would be set up to set basic standards for all tourism operators.

[De Dragon]

Joseph Remy said Shamfa's claim of a "discussion" with the CWU, was a I minute 48 second conversation merely informing them of the TDC's dissolution. He also called accused her of having a "little girl attitude", and a "we in charge now attitude"

[desifemlove]

funny that Cadiz couldn't get Sandals in.

but no achievements in this PNM government, until he thinks oil will rise to $100. The PM most likely would die of old age before that happens.

[eliteauto]

Closing down TDC is a hell of an achievement, too many square pegs in round holes some with very racist and political agendas who intend to stymie development while favouring a certain clique, not everyone has $100K to pay in bribe money, some should be glad all they facing is the breadline and not the courthouse.

There are also some young, qualified and very competent staff members there with great ideas for moving tourism forward, maybe now they will get that opportunity within the new entity. I do find the idea of having 2 separate entities for both islands foolish and unnecessary though

[Dizzy28]

I was stunned to see they have 150 employees.

[desifemlove]

so only PNM achievements are cleaning up Sando?

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