ado15mk3 wrote:^ is only so much he could do. the rest of the team and the coaches is toots.
the only man to solely win a WC is Maradona and he still had really good supporting players.
Maradona coaching in last WC was deplorable and the AFA has no ideas.
has anyone seen Arg games? Messi does real try but he has to practically go back to defence and then bring it in the goal to score. their defence is poor and midfield even poorer.
sorry for him yes. at least i dont live there so i can enjoy barca games more.
I watch practically all Argentina games as well as Barca games and I could say why Messi does not have the success at Arg like at Barca. Argentina defense is really crap. They are stagnant and slow and contribute nothing to offense. It is amazing that only Germany exploited this in the WC.
Their midfield is weak and is mostly defensive midfielders. Hardly contributing to offense. What happens a lot of the times is that Messi has to come back deep in midfield to get the ball. Nothing new for him as he has to do this for Barca sometimes, especially when there is no space when the other team playing defensively, but on the National team it becomes the norm.
So Messi runs back deep in defense and he passes the ball. You know what happens? He hardly ever gets it back. If Di Maria gets the ball he tries to take on players and fails a lot of the times. Don't even talk about Tevez. Tevez works hard on the field but he is very selfish just like Di Maria. So there is nothing like one-twos for Messi. The only person who can link up with Messi is Pastore (although he not playing too hot for PSG for a lil while) and he always on the bench and will only get a lil 10 mins of play when he is lucky.
On paper Arg has one of the strongest forward line. Some reason though they don't handle their chances well. Milito is so-so and Higuain does real throw away (you could see it in the last Classico on Wednesday) but they always start ahead of Aguero. I don't know why Aguero always starts on the bench. Aguero comes on for the last 15-20 mins in a game and if he gets chances he buries them.
So Messi creates the play and takes the ball deep in midfield dribbles a couple of players, pass the ball to Tevez (these days he not playing) or Di Maria and does not get back the ball. Messi dribbles again in midfield, lays on a sweet pass (the same types that he does for Barca to Alexis or Villa or more recently Abidal and Pedro) to Higuain and he wastes the chance. Messi decides to stay upfront and he does not get the ball because the others barely know about team-play. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I really don't know how Di Maria and Higuain does really make out in Real Madrid squad playing as a team.
So nobody in midfield to pass the ball (a little bit self) for offense and when he in midfield creating a play he seeing 8 players in front of him, it hard for him to have success. It seems like they want Messi to create the play, pass the ball to himself in offense and score or try and dribble through 7-8 players and score. That has to be a real height of frustration for him. If only each player can just do their role in defense and midfield and Messi does not have to run back deep then he could have major success.
Not to mention Argentina always changing up the squad significantly (especially with Maradona at the WC.) Now Arg fans know all of this, so obviously the coach and AFA must know all of this but nothing changes. Sabella now, and the same sheit is happening. AFA like the damn Mafia and they calling all the shots.
So Messi have to do everything in every game to achieve success once nothing changes. The reality is that if you have to be the greatest you have to win the WC and things not looking too nice for Messi right now. If he could really win the WC with this current Argentina team then he just might go down as being the greatest.