Sat Maharaj says No Hijab in Hindu School

[The_Honourable]

Garcia and the govt in for a fight...when garcia was fatima principal I hope he remembered when he used to tell hindus to take of rakhi....so if that girl wins the matter...the catholic board will turn some heads...presently a circular is making its way around telling people the rules of a certain muslim primary school in south barring children from wearing rakhi etc etc....so sat could use this to his advantage...

Very interesting to see what happens with this case

As you mentioned that, I noticed that the muslim organizations are very quiet about this issue whole week. Good move i guess because they will be caught as hypocrites especially if that circular leaks to the public.

As what zoom alluded too... this is a can of worms. Sat is either going to win in the court or in the long run if that box opens to his advantage.

[nervewrecker]

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[*$kїđž!™]

If she is allowed to break the school dress code and wear it at the school then women should be allowed to break the dress code in my area and wear tight clothes with panty line showing....if one could break dress code so should all...

[Gladiator]

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Yeah great distraction.... Trinis like to gravitate to scupidness.

All of a sudden nobody studying ...

Galleons Passage
Crime
Property Tax about to be unleashed in we azz
UTT mass firing
etc etc...

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Totally agree^.....normal smokescreen....

The only difference with this issue and other similar issues is in this one the "victim" run to fb to cry...when they tell them injun to take off the string from they hand they just comply and doh complain...

[nervewrecker]

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Yeah great distraction.... Trinis like to gravitate to scupidness.

All of a sudden nobody studying ...

Galleons Passage
Crime
Property Tax about to be unleashed in we azz
UTT mass firing
etc etc...

Yuh unnerstan

[Ronaldo95163]

[zoom rader]

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Yeah great distraction.... Trinis like to gravitate to scupidness.

All of a sudden nobody studying ...

Galleons Passage
Crime
Property Tax about to be unleashed in we azz
UTT mass firing
etc etc...

That's is why I say this girl is a PNM stooge. Few can see that

[zoom rader]

Why I support Sat

Published: 
Sunday, May 27, 2018

Kirk Meighoo

Sat Maharaj is one of the most hated men in this country. I, myself, find him to be overly, unnecessarily abrasive and combative in public. I know he is a very alienating person. But I support his stance on this current issue. Let me explain why:
1. "Freeing" the Hindu vote
This is one of the most electric statements made in the political history of Trinidad. And I say this as a political historian. From the days of Bhadase Sagan Maharaj in the 1950s (Sat's father-in-law) the Maha Sabha has been blamed for racialising politics in Trinidad. While they did engage in such politics, the Maha Sabha certainly did not invent it, and do not deserve to be particularly singled out for it. At the same time, Bhadase built an impressive inter-ethnic political coalition in the DLP that defeated Eric Williams's PNM in the 1958 Federal and 1959 County Council elections.
Hindus have been among the most fluid voters in the country, but they largely moved as a block, shifting support from PDP to DLP to ULF to NAR to UNC, but also crossing over to other parties (WFP, DAC, ONR, COP, even PNM) to a much larger degree than Afro-Trinidadians, for example, who basically stuck with the PNM and ignored all the other splinters and rivals, except for the 1986 NAR.
Sat Maharaj said that "the politics must change in this country," and that Hindu voters should vote for whomever has the best platform, regardless of their race or party. This is the type of politics we need in T&T, and I support it fully.
2. Hypocrisy of people attacking Hindus
Sat explained in great detail that a Hindu principal was locked out of an ASJA school because she did not convert to Islam, that Anthony Garcia (now Minister of Education seeking to take action against the Maha Sabha) as principal of Fatima College made Hindu boys snip off their Rakshas (sacred threads around the wrist), girls with mehendi painted on their hands, and children with abeer stains on their skin after Phagwa celebrations were also disallowed in ASJA schools, and that this was the policy of many Government schools as well. No cries of discrimination were made then, in those particular issues. Hindus accepted that there were rules in those schools, conformed, and moved on. (The fact that they had their own Hindu schools presumably had a lot to do with that stance, and that is very important.)
The T&T Police Service also has prohibited Muslim women from wearing a hijab, and there is a court case dealing with the issue at present. Muslims have also been prevented by others from practicing their traditions in schools.
Hindus are unfortunately an easy target, however, as was the case with the gratuitous, deliberately misnamed "child marriages" non-issue, which was artificially inflated to appear as a pressing problem in our country, and gave licence for non-Hindus to freely and openly disparage Hindus, while misrepresenting their positions and views.
3. Respect for Process
Sat has decided to take this to the courts to rule. He has said they will go all the way to the Privy Council if necessary, and if they lose, "we will take our licks and abide by the ruling." This is impressive and important. Democracy and the rule of law can only work if losers accept a verdict. If the Opposition party keeps trying to undermine a government, democracy cannot work. That is not the role of an Opposition. You have a chance at the next election to become the government. The role of the Opposition now is to provide oversight and checks on the Government, and to present an alternative vision. It is not to try to force early elections or prevent the legitimately elected government from operating. The Maha Sabha will fight to the very end to assert its point of view, but at the end of the process, it will accept the verdict.
We are living in very interesting times, both nationally and internationally. Things are changing radically. I welcome these changes. The old Establishment is crumbling everywhere, and ordinary people are defending their peoplehood, all around the world. This is an excellent development, which I support wholeheartedly.
Dr Kirk Meighoo, a political scientist, author, and former independent senator, took to Facebook to express his point of view.


Yet still the PNM jackarses on here and the odd eleit mods can't see this.

[Moobs]

^^^ when will we pnm free up De Negro voting block? Some people like they still have De chains on their hands and neck from when they was leaving De slave ship...

[fatboy slim]

^^^ when will we pnm free up De Negro voting block? Some people like they still have De chains on their hands and neck from when they was leaving De slave ship...

[fouljuice]

I find the most appalling thing is in 2018 and people still believe in sky fairies.

How that working out for ollour and the crime rate?

If I had a say, I would remove all funding for any religious/hypocritical chit and gradually remove all religions and make it illegal to worship any sky fairy.

Less time spent on fairy-tales = more time for productivity.
Most criminals succeed in Trinidad because already know this, thus they have an advantage.

When they rob/kill your family, they go home to theirs to celebrate and roll in your money and drive up your stolen car,
while you sit and cry to your fairy about 'how dis could happen to me?'

[Premchand1976]

Totally agree^.....normal smokescreen....

The only difference with this issue and other similar issues is in this one the "victim" run to fb to cry...when they tell them injun to take off the string from they hand they just comply and doh complain...

Because injuns and are a usually calm people. They doh rant and rave and get on gunta like too much........it not in dey blood .

[Rory Phoulorie]

Because injuns and are a usually calm people. They doh rant and rave and get on gunta like too much........it not in dey blood .

Not really. The gunta in them does come out when UNC in power. We time now!

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Like allyuh forget when sat d ban manning from coming to a particular celebration....patos still went..

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Because injuns and are a usually calm people. They doh rant and rave and get on gunta like too much........it not in dey blood .

Not really. The gunta in them does come out when UNC in power. We time now!

The "gunta" in injun does come out when they drink deh rum...they figure they could fight the world...down to the dog does get chop...deh chupid bad when deh drink...they does start to talk all they finances to feel big and important..

[zoom rader]

Because injuns and are a usually calm people. They doh rant and rave and get on gunta like too much........it not in dey blood .

Not really. The gunta in them does come out when UNC in power. We time now!

The "gunta" in injun does come out when they drink deh rum...they figure they could fight the world...down to the dog does get chop...deh chupid bad when deh drink...they does start to talk all they finances to feel big and important..

Anti gang law will deal dem so.

[Premchand1976]

Lol......ENT

[hydroep]

Published: 
Sunday, May 27, 2018
Kirk Meighoo

...Hindus have been among the most fluid voters in the country, but they largely moved as a block, shifting support from PDP to DLP to ULF to NAR to UNC, but also crossing over to other parties (WFP, DAC, ONR, COP, even PNM) to a much larger degree than Afro-Trinidadians, for example, who basically stuck with the PNM and ignored all the other splinters and rivals, except for the 1986 NAR...

And yet they've been unable to translate this into victories at the polls because of "vote splitting" and constituency demographics...

[Gladiator]

[randolphinshan]

Garcia and the govt in for a fight...when garcia was fatima principal I hope he remembered when he used to tell hindus to take of rakhi....so if that girl wins the matter...the catholic board will turn some heads...presently a circular is making its way around telling people the rules of a certain muslim primary school in south barring children from wearing rakhi etc etc....so sat could use this to his advantage...

Very interesting to see what happens with this case

That's the point I was hoping folk on tuner saw. But comments are sat is an arse , idiot ect.

This PNM Muslim girl open a big can of worms by messing with Sat school and all those clowns that support her.

The gate will be open once this girl wins her case. Raki will rule in Catholic schools

solid points

i too know of hindu girls students not being allowed d rakhi in muslim & christian schools & they complied cause they adhere to d their school rules , they eh beat up or go fb , tv & newspapers

good for d goose : good for d gander , cause they cant say let we but we eh letting u ...

PNM ppl and the mods on here don't see it that way. All they see is that Sat is a racist and
arse.

This girl know what she was doing

Satty boy say the truth for once. Kams is a drunk and fraud who use poor injun votes to win and give friend and family billion dollar contracts after.When will those people in Kanhai Road and Cunjal in Barrackpore see that. Some still riding bike and bisson cart when the cabal financier friends driving Prado, Jaguar and Cayenne

[eliteauto]

Kirk Meighoo's article is spot on

[zoom rader]

Kirk Meighoo's article is spot on

That's why the girl should win her case.

Let's see how the rest of religious boards will handle the new rules. All of the rest of the boards are very silent at the moment. It's a can of worms

[airuma]

Real noise in this thread!
Since we have so much informed persons, why were religious schools started if not to provide a place to educate their believers in both academics and spirituality?
The "board schools" AFAIK, are "Government ASSISTED" so they are paid a rent to provide a service, they are not fully funded so it could be likened to a partnership arrangement where BOTH parties have rights... this will put some twist on the "laws of the land because it's public funds" argument.
Does the OJT not qualify to be placed in an Islamic based school? Even if she were allowed to wear her hijab, why would she feel more comfortable in a Hindu based school rather than an Islamic one? She would face issues as having to participate in Hindu functions, prayers and may have to use her lunch break or be denied the right to practice Jumu'ah on Fridays.
Did the OJT trainee not know that this is a Hindu based school?
I also see alot of people quoting the National Anthem.... here every creed and race, find(s) an equal place.... how can I find an equal place if other persons of differing beliefs want to come in and expect me to compromise "my policies" which are aligned with "my beliefs" in "my place".... does "equal place" in the National Anthem mean that no one is expected to respect the opinions or beliefs of others or in colloquial term, is ah free fuh all.
How about the last line of the National Anthem? "and may GOD bless our nation".... maybe it should be changed to "and may the GODS bless our nation".
I remember back in 1992, a Muslim girl from a Tunapuna secondary school was denied acceptance to a Convent, we were told that it was because of the hijab. The principal of Presentation College Chaguanas took her in, there was a compromise, she had to were skin tone sleeves and the head-wear was warn under the shirt, but this was funny in the sense that Islam makes an effort to separate the males from the females yet being a girl in an all boy school was not highlighted as an issue for the parents or the Islamic elders in our country.
I agree with Dr. Meighoo, Sat is abrasive and unnecessarily so, but it seems as though he is a smart guy.... I mean he knows that the PNM supporters will have a field day with him on this one so he attacks Kamla effectively neutralizing some of the persons who would have been against his position initially.
Apart from that, I remember when LGHS was a small building with black boards separating the classes, and Vishnu boys was a old building converted to a school next to the old Caroni police station. These school have seen way more expansion that other "board schools" and LGHS got the President's medal for the last three years so the man must be doing more things right than wrong.
I agree that this is a political ploy, the only other thing I would add to the argument is that it Fuad Abu Bakr speaking at Mickela's meeting meant that the PNM could loose some of the Muslim support..... so turn the religions on each other and problem solved since Panday is seen as a Hindu and Sat is seen as a representative for ALL Hindus as is evident by some of the initial posts on this thread.
So as I see it.... PNM bowled a low ball, Sat hit it and making his runs... lets see if he will score any runs or run out.

[zoom rader]

^^^ it's a win win for sat even if he looses as it means no more discrimination for hindus at other schools.
Hindu kids will be allowed to wear raki bands and Hindu flags on goverment buildings rather than crosses or PNM dragons

[The_Honourable]

2. Hypocrisy of people attacking Hindus

Sat explained in great detail that a Hindu principal was locked out of an ASJA school because she did not convert to Islam, that Anthony Garcia (now Minister of Education seeking to take action against the Maha Sabha) as principal of Fatima College made Hindu boys snip off their Rakshas (sacred threads around the wrist), girls with mehendi painted on their hands, and children with abeer stains on their skin after Phagwa celebrations were also disallowed in ASJA schools, and that this was the policy of many Government schools as well. No cries of discrimination were made then, in those particular issues. Hindus accepted that there were rules in those schools, conformed, and moved on. (The fact that they had their own Hindu schools presumably had a lot to do with that stance, and that is very important.)

The T&T Police Service also has prohibited Muslim women from wearing a hijab, and there is a court case dealing with the issue at present. Muslims have also been prevented by others from practicing their traditions in schools.
Hindus are unfortunately an easy target, however, as was the case with the gratuitous, deliberately misnamed "child marriages" non-issue, which was artificially inflated to appear as a pressing problem in our country, and gave licence for non-Hindus to freely and openly disparage Hindus, while misrepresenting their positions and views.

Well said by Kirk...

Sat might loose the battle but he winning the war... cause he can now force Muslim and Christian schools not to discriminate. hence why all the Muslim organizations (and Christian too) was quiet all week. They know what coming if the girl wins in court. Sat will then take that same case that went against him and use it against everybody else.

[zoom rader]

^^^ let the AG and PNM push this nonsense, PNM will loose all round. It's a win win for Sat.

Garcia stopped Hindu kids from wearing raki at Fatima and now he speaks out . Total bs

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Garcia prolly vex he rush this to court...so what if the girl loss the case???

[Monk BANzai]





Why I support Sat

Published: 

Sunday, May 27, 2018



Kirk Meighoo

Sat Maharaj is one of the most hated men in this country. I, myself, find him to be overly, unnecessarily abrasive and combative in public. I know he is a very alienating person. But I support his stance on this current issue. Let me explain why:
1. "Freeing" the Hindu vote
This is one of the most electric statements made in the political history of Trinidad. And I say this as a political historian. From the days of Bhadase Sagan Maharaj in the 1950s (Sat's father-in-law) the Maha Sabha has been blamed for racialising politics in Trinidad. While they did engage in such politics, the Maha Sabha certainly did not invent it, and do not deserve to be particularly singled out for it. At the same time, Bhadase built an impressive inter-ethnic political coalition in the DLP that defeated Eric Williams's PNM in the 1958 Federal and 1959 County Council elections.
Hindus have been among the most fluid voters in the country, but they largely moved as a block, shifting support from PDP to DLP to ULF to NAR to UNC, but also crossing over to other parties (WFP, DAC, ONR, COP, even PNM) to a much larger degree than Afro-Trinidadians, for example, who basically stuck with the PNM and ignored all the other splinters and rivals, except for the 1986 NAR.
Sat Maharaj said that "the politics must change in this country," and that Hindu voters should vote for whomever has the best platform, regardless of their race or party. This is the type of politics we need in T&T, and I support it fully.
2. Hypocrisy of people attacking Hindus
Sat explained in great detail that a Hindu principal was locked out of an ASJA school because she did not convert to Islam, that Anthony Garcia (now Minister of Education seeking to take action against the Maha Sabha) as principal of Fatima College made Hindu boys snip off their Rakshas (sacred threads around the wrist), girls with mehendi painted on their hands, and children with abeer stains on their skin after Phagwa celebrations were also disallowed in ASJA schools, and that this was the policy of many Government schools as well. No cries of discrimination were made then, in those particular issues. Hindus accepted that there were rules in those schools, conformed, and moved on. (The fact that they had their own Hindu schools presumably had a lot to do with that stance, and that is very important.)
The T&T Police Service also has prohibited Muslim women from wearing a hijab, and there is a court case dealing with the issue at present. Muslims have also been prevented by others from practicing their traditions in schools.
Hindus are unfortunately an easy target, however, as was the case with the gratuitous, deliberately misnamed "child marriages" non-issue, which was artificially inflated to appear as a pressing problem in our country, and gave licence for non-Hindus to freely and openly disparage Hindus, while misrepresenting their positions and views.
3. Respect for Process
Sat has decided to take this to the courts to rule. He has said they will go all the way to the Privy Council if necessary, and if they lose, "we will take our licks and abide by the ruling." This is impressive and important. Democracy and the rule of law can only work if losers accept a verdict. If the Opposition party keeps trying to undermine a government, democracy cannot work. That is not the role of an Opposition. You have a chance at the next election to become the government. The role of the Opposition now is to provide oversight and checks on the Government, and to present an alternative vision. It is not to try to force early elections or prevent the legitimately elected government from operating. The Maha Sabha will fight to the very end to assert its point of view, but at the end of the process, it will accept the verdict.
We are living in very interesting times, both nationally and internationally. Things are changing radically. I welcome these changes. The old Establishment is crumbling everywhere, and ordinary people are defending their peoplehood, all around the world. This is an excellent development, which I support wholeheartedly.
Dr Kirk Meighoo, a political scientist, author, and former independent senator, took to Facebook to express his point of view.


Yet still the PNM jackarses on here and the odd eleit mods can't see this.

so wiat.. he NOW wants to split the hindu vote. What of the past when it suited himself (and other Hindu/Indian Oligarchs) needs?

Failure Kirk Meighoo. If Sat was consistent maybe i'd throw the world smallest violin his way.

[RedVEVO]

^^

Sat rich and happy .

All this beat up for who ?