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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby hong kong phooey » January 26th, 2017, 4:21 am

Not only that but it will be good to have a service you can depend on . I dont mind paying a little extra to get drop home after drinking at the bar. This way i dont have to call someone and disturb them

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby V2NR 3.0 » January 26th, 2017, 5:00 am

This country is so backward with our dinosaur legislation. Uber is re known internationally. I am certainly going to be using it as the on boarding process is very detailed as opposed to taking a regular taxi.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby V2NR 3.0 » January 26th, 2017, 5:01 am

This country is so backward with our dinosaur legislation. Uber is re known internationally. I am certainly going to be using it as the on boarding process is very detailed as opposed to taking a regular taxi.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby GixxerMan » January 26th, 2017, 8:25 am

[quote="WarrLordd"]I rather take über any day especially with the recent amount of them 7 seater vans they have now cramming a bunch of oversized people or even a regular car when every other passenger gets drop of before you best you pay the cheese and go your way comfortable straight home or where ever. Plus it's a fixed fee hopefully when you hire the car for yourself I went cunupia on private hire I find the price does real change often[/quote]

because it depends on who you took?... was it a PH or H car?, If you hiring an H car you really don't expect him to charge you a PH/ HUSTLER fare especially if that's not his route ?....

You must take these factors into consideration.... route, time, distance.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby The Bamboo Online » January 26th, 2017, 9:12 am

GixxerMan wrote:
Redman wrote:So if UBER takes on H cars -wouldnt that solve the problem?


yes it will.... legally..


No it won't....Über or the local franchise company has not registered as a biz entity locally an will pay no taxes. If the government is not receiving money then no new laws for u.

I am sure after they do all that the government will find another excuse not to allow it to run.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby sMASH » January 26th, 2017, 9:42 am

From the driver and passenger point of view, with respect to insurance and accidents, it will be satisfied.

With respect to government getting its hands on a slice the pie, its kinda ambiguous. Because they are not physically in Trinidad, it looks like what's app and Fassbook to me.

Yes the government can say that they take money from locals for providing a service, and then pay locals for the services provided.
But is like where they gonna mail the pre action protocol letter?

I mean, all uber has to do is remove the app, and their only presence is done.


If the government goes after uber for business revenue, the government would be very greedy.
If they firstly seek to show them the private car/hired car conflict needs to be addressed, then u know the government is addressing the situation legitimately.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Daran » January 26th, 2017, 10:29 am

Actually, Uber drivers will have to pay tax because Uber pays their earnings into their PayPal accounts right? So once that PayPal account is linked to a local credit card then they are liable for income tax.

Trying to find a way to 'tax' Uber sets a bad precedent. Lots of locals do business online and receive payments to their Paypal (and yes pay income tax), where do you draw the line here?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rspann » January 26th, 2017, 11:07 am

Anybody hear Uber statement this morning? Its the same thing I said from the beginning was going to happen.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby ADONI » January 26th, 2017, 11:21 am

^^Heard on the radio, they said that they continuing to have talks with the guberment, cause they invest 2 million already in Trinidad...

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Miktay » January 26th, 2017, 12:24 pm

Has anyone used weride or Drop?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby desifemlove » January 26th, 2017, 1:36 pm

really freaking poor launch. how come they ent got all these things covered? how did they launch in other countries? and how come Drop and Reach are local, and the government doesn't come down on them? similar, near enough exact, business models!

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby j.o.e » January 26th, 2017, 1:51 pm

desifemlove wrote:really freaking poor launch. how come they ent got all these things covered? how did they launch in other countries? and how come Drop and Reach are local, and the government doesn't come down on them? similar, near enough exact, business models!


You don't work thru these issues and then launch ..... in a third world country you launch and then work thru issues. That's the only way you get priority. And in the meanwhile your business is up and running and at least earning an income.
Asking why 'Drop' and 'Reach' didn't run into the same problems is like asking why there are PH drivers everywhere unscathed.
UBER had the international big name and marketing reach would therefore get the blame.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby j.o.e » January 26th, 2017, 1:51 pm

desifemlove wrote:really freaking poor launch. how come they ent got all these things covered? how did they launch in other countries? and how come Drop and Reach are local, and the government doesn't come down on them? similar, near enough exact, business models!


You don't work thru these issues and then launch ..... in a third world country you launch and then work thru issues. That's the only way you get priority. And in the meanwhile your business is up and running and at least earning an income.
Asking why 'Drop' and 'Reach' didn't run into the same problems is like asking why there are PH drivers everywhere unscathed.
UBER had the international big name and marketing reach would therefore get the blame.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rspann » January 26th, 2017, 2:03 pm

See also: Uber protests and legal actions

Taxi company protesting against Uber – Budapest, January 18, 2016

Uber drivers on strike at Montparnasse, Paris, February 3, 2016

A protest against Uber by taxi drivers
Uber is the subject of ongoing protests and legal action from taxi drivers, taxi companies, and governments around the world who are trying to stop Uber from operating in their areas. These groups say that Uber presents unfair competition to taxis because the company does not pay taxes or licensing fees; that it endangers passengers; and that drivers are untrained, unlicensed and uninsured.[citation needed] Lawsuits come from Uber drivers as well, who sometimes complain about being practically Uber's employees without enjoying the rights and remedies of this category of workers under employment law. As of mid-2015, protests had been staged in Germany, India, Spain, Colombia, France, Italy, Denmark, Canada, China and England, among other nations, and dangerous incidents involving passengers have been documented.[140][141] Uber executives were arrested in France in June 2015. In December 2014, Uber was banned in Spain and in two cities in India. Uber continues to be involved in disputes with several governmental bodies, including local governments in the U.S., Australia and Brazil.

Governments have been largely unable to stop Uber's operations in their jurisdictions because its operations are conducted primarily over the Internet. Many have called for governments to relax legislation in favour of Uber.[142] At city jurisdictions, this might be easier to achieve.[143] In addition, Uber is said to use extremely aggressive tactics such as bullying and hiring investigators to "dig up dirt" on journalists who criticize them.[144] Portland, Oregon's transportation commissioner called Uber management "a bunch of thugs".[145] A commissioner in Virginia who opposed Uber was flooded with emails and calls after Uber distributed his personal contact information to all of its users in the state.[146]

The Australian New South Wales government created a taskforce to look into the Uber problem stating that the existing regulatory framework is "difficult to enforce", and therefore not as effective as it could be. The taskforce also noted that ride sharing services "appear to meet the criteria of a public passenger service" under the 1990 Act and drivers are therefore required to pay local government services tax GST.[147] This is despite the fact Uber claims that it is not a taxi service and should not have to operate under taxi regulation.[148][149]

Lawsuits by private entities[edit]
On December 31, 2013, Uber driver Syed Muzaffar ran over and killed six-year old Sofia Liu in San Francisco, severely injuring her mother and brother in the same incident. The driver was logged in and waiting for a fare, but not carrying a passenger, at the time of the accident. Liu's family filed a wrongful death claim against Uber, claiming that this made Uber responsible for the driver's actions.[150][151][152] Uber deactivated Muzaffar's account after the accident. Syed Muzaffar was arrested on the scene and was charged with misdemeanor vehicular manslaughter on December 8, 2014.[153] Uber said in a written statement that all drivers had undergone a "stringent" background check, and Muzaffar's was "clear". Muzaffar had been arrested in Florida in 2004 on a reckless driving charge, but California law prohibited private background check services like Uber's from reporting arrests and crimes more than seven years old.[154] Syed Muzaffar's vehicular manslaughter trial was scheduled to start August 5, 2015. In July 2015, Uber reached a settlement with the family for an undisclosed sum.[155]

In September 2014, a class-action lawsuit was filed by Atlanta, Georgia taxicab drivers and CPNC holders as the plaintiff class, against Uber Technologies, Inc., its subsidiary Raiser LLC (which operates UberX), and in a rare move, all of both companies' drivers as a defendant class in the Superior Court of Fulton County, Georgia, for restitution of all metered fares collected via the Uber and UberX apps for trips originating within the Atlanta city limits.[156] In December 2014, Checker Cab Philadelphia and 44 other taxi companies in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania filed a lawsuit in the Federal Court of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, alleging that Uber was operating illegally in the city.[157][158] On March 3, 2015, U.S. District Judge Nitza I. Quinones Alejandro denied a motion for a preliminary injunction against Uber.[159]

On January 29, 2015, a 25-year-old Delhi woman who claims to have been raped in her city by Uber driver Shiv Kumar Yadav filed a lawsuit against the company for negligence in US courts.[160] The plaintiff filed a motion for voluntary dismissal of the case on September 1, 2015, which was granted September 2, 2015.[161] In May 2015, the Milan Court banned Uberpop alleging "unfair competition" and violation of the local jurisdiction regulating taxi services. The lawsuit was originally initiated by the Italian taxi drivers union.[162]

In July 2015, a $400M class-action lawsuit was filed against UberX and UberXL in Toronto, Canada on behalf of Ontario taxi and limo drivers, brokers, and owners. The statement of claim alleged that UberX and UberXL violated section 39.1 of the province's Highway Traffic Act by having unlicensed drivers picking up passengers and transporting them for compensation.[163] In March 2016, Sukhvir Tehethi, a local taxi driver, filed an injunction against Uber. Toronto's city council amended a bylaw in October 2015 and, according to Tehethi's lawyer, Uber drivers are in violation of it. Tehethi decided to take action saying that it could be months, or even years, if he waits for City Hall to act.[164] In January 2016, a $1.5M lawsuit was filed against Uber in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, by Sergei Lemberg on behalf of a Philadelphia taxicab medallion owner. The suit claimed that Uber engaged in tortious interference with a prospective business advantage and engaged in false advertising under the Lanham Act.[165]

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Daran » January 26th, 2017, 2:07 pm

j.o.e.,

Exactly, and that's the case with how many multinational businesses do business and not just third world counties. You think Digicel had any permission to erect a single cell tower?

Besides, Uber is doing this pretty much in every country their launch. F*ck government regulations, taxis unions and insurance....just launch, win users. That way you have a lot more power to negotiate with the government afterward as the outcry from the population losing Uber will be too great.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rspann » January 26th, 2017, 2:20 pm

Contractors or employees[edit]
Uber contracts with their driver partners under legal arrangements as contractors, and not employees. Since taxation, work hours, overtime benefits, and so forth may be treated differently by various political jurisdictions globally, this designation has been controversial.[186] In the United States, the US Department of Labor issued guidelines in July 2015 to deal with, what it considers, "misclassification" of workers. It argues that any "worker who is 'economically dependent' on the employer should be treated as an employee. By contrast, a worker must be in business for himself or herself to be an independent contractor."[187] The guideline is non-binding, but is expected to have some influence in various court cases which may establish new common law around the issue.[187][188]

In a class action lawsuit filed in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California on August 16, 2013 Uber drivers plead that they were employees who had been misclassified as independent contractors and violations of the California Labor Code and demanded that they be given any tips Uber had collected on their behalf and payment of business expenses such as gas and maintenance of their vehicles.[189] The District Judge, Edward M. Chen, ruled in the plaintiffs' favor with respect to a motion for summary judgement by defendants on March 11, 2015 holding that whether Uber drivers were employees was a disputed fact to be resolved by the jury.[190] On September 1, 2015 Chen certified the class but generally limited it to drivers in California hired before June 2014 (when an opt-out arbitration clause was included in the contract) who had directly contracted with Uber. [191][192]

In the United Kingdom on October 28, 2016, the Central London Employment Tribunal ruled that Uber drivers are "workers" entitled to the minimum wage, paid holiday and other normal worker entitlements, rather than self-employed. Two Uber drivers had brought the test case to the employment tribunal with the assistance of the GMB Union, on behalf of a group of drivers in London. Uber will appeal against the decision.[111][193]

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Miktay » January 26th, 2017, 2:21 pm

Big Gubbament and taxi cartels hate Uber.

But consumers love Uber.

Guess who's going to win this one?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rspann » January 26th, 2017, 2:25 pm

American company making profits here, supposed to pay taxes, collects payment online, pays drivers online, no regulatory framework, no benefits for workers, what is the difference between them and all the immigrant workers that we protest against ? What about VAT and taxes ,who monitoring ?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby eliteauto » January 26th, 2017, 2:40 pm

Foreign good local bad

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Daran » January 26th, 2017, 2:41 pm

rspann wrote:American company making profits here, supposed to pay taxes, collects payment online, pays drivers online, no regulatory framework, no benefits for workers, what is the difference between them and all the immigrant workers that we protest against ? What about VAT and taxes ,who monitoring ?



The drivers will or should be paying tax because money is being received from Uber into their bank accounts. FIU regulations state that the source of this income must be declared and taxed. Secondly, it's good for the economy because these drivers earning extra income will spend that money in our local economy, hence paying VAT on their purchases.

Thirdly, Uber is not hiring these drivers. This is a different type of business model. Otherwise, every trini earning money from some freelancing website that takes commission can be taxed under your reasoning as well.

This is no different to Google collecting revenue of ads on Trinituner.

The argument against Uber now is that, they're effectively allowing people 'working taxi' without government regulation. Just like PH drivers. However, the difference is that Uber provides the regulation given their driver and passenger review systems and tracking, which is far better for everyone's safety

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby desifemlove » January 26th, 2017, 2:47 pm

j.o.e wrote:
desifemlove wrote:really freaking poor launch. how come they ent got all these things covered? how did they launch in other countries? and how come Drop and Reach are local, and the government doesn't come down on them? similar, near enough exact, business models!


You don't work thru these issues and then launch ..... in a third world country you launch and then work thru issues. That's the only way you get priority. And in the meanwhile your business is up and running and at least earning an income.
Asking why 'Drop' and 'Reach' didn't run into the same problems is like asking why there are PH drivers everywhere unscathed.
UBER had the international big name and marketing reach would therefore get the blame.

anything that helps the digital economy, i support. but then this big global firm being so shoddy, but then I believe they will get through soon enough.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rspann » January 26th, 2017, 3:15 pm

Daran, they do have a regulations in place , but can it satisfy the legal requirements that the Government has at this time? Or will they have to comply with our national /Governmental requirements?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby rspann » January 26th, 2017, 3:19 pm

With respect to your third point, read the article I posted above about contractors or employees, and the judgements that have been given. Tell me your views on that.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby desifemlove » January 29th, 2017, 2:40 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
hong kong phooey wrote:wonder if this girl had caled uber if she would have to worry about this

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-01- ... e%E2%80%99
Uber will have live tracking of each of their active drivers carrying passengers. They will also have info on the driver, car and passenger. This makes both passenger and driver safe. It's also dangerous to be a PH driver.

still not failsafe though. there have been cases in the USA, Europe about assaults and stuff.

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby desifemlove » January 29th, 2017, 2:51 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... id-claims/

Uber drivers could effectively be forced out of a Surrey town after claims they have been "leering" at and "intimidating" residents.

Reigate and Banstead Borough Council agreed last year to lease Uber 50 spaces in the Horley high street car park and a portable toilet was set up following complaints that drivers were urinating in public.

But the agreement might be terminated after residents continued to complain to the council and more than 300 have signed a petition to cancel the contract with Uber, the ride-sharing app.

Councillors said some Uber drivers had been sleeping in their cars, leaving their engines running and not using the toilets available.

I am...concerned at reports of some residents being intimidated or chased out of the car park... this council will not accept this type of behaviour
Cllr Christian Stevens
Conservative councillor Christian Stevens said: "Many of my residents are concerned that the council has provided parking spaces to Uber in Horley's High Street car park.

"This appears to have led to Uber drivers manipulating the car park and in some cases chasing residents off of what is a public facility.

"Additionally, there are reports of drivers not using the Portaloos Uber provided, leering and intimidating residents, leaving their engines running, sleeping in their cars and parking in spaces not marked for them."

Councillor James Durrant, portfolio holder for enforcement, said that some residents felt they had been "chased out of the car park" by some drivers.

Mr Durrant said: "Although there has been some self-policing by Uber drivers I understand that there are still a number of them who do not park in the designated spaces, leave their engines running or sleep in their vehicles.

"This is against the terms of the contract, I am also concerned at reports of some residents being intimidated or chased out of the car park, this is a public facility and this council will not accept this type of behaviour."

Would T&T authorities be thorough enough to stop this?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby desifemlove » January 29th, 2017, 3:08 am

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01 ... id-claims/

Uber drivers could effectively be forced out of a Surrey town after claims they have been "leering" at and "intimidating" residents.

Reigate and Banstead Borough Council agreed last year to lease Uber 50 spaces in the Horley high street car park and a portable toilet was set up following complaints that drivers were urinating in public.

But the agreement might be terminated after residents continued to complain to the council and more than 300 have signed a petition to cancel the contract with Uber, the ride-sharing app.

Councillors said some Uber drivers had been sleeping in their cars, leaving their engines running and not using the toilets available.

I am...concerned at reports of some residents being intimidated or chased out of the car park... this council will not accept this type of behaviour
Cllr Christian Stevens
Conservative councillor Christian Stevens said: "Many of my residents are concerned that the council has provided parking spaces to Uber in Horley's High Street car park.

"This appears to have led to Uber drivers manipulating the car park and in some cases chasing residents off of what is a public facility.

"Additionally, there are reports of drivers not using the Portaloos Uber provided, leering and intimidating residents, leaving their engines running, sleeping in their cars and parking in spaces not marked for them."

Councillor James Durrant, portfolio holder for enforcement, said that some residents felt they had been "chased out of the car park" by some drivers.

Mr Durrant said: "Although there has been some self-policing by Uber drivers I understand that there are still a number of them who do not park in the designated spaces, leave their engines running or sleep in their vehicles.

"This is against the terms of the contract, I am also concerned at reports of some residents being intimidated or chased out of the car park, this is a public facility and this council will not accept this type of behaviour."

Would T&T authorities be thorough enough to stop this?

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby bluesclues » January 31st, 2017, 2:00 am

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby moses_boss12 » August 30th, 2017, 11:48 am

Good Day Tuners,

Anybody here drives for Uber or knows someone who does

Care to share experiences, is it actually profitable??

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby sMASH » August 31st, 2017, 9:45 am

A radio announcer said he used one and was charged 20 for a ride he would normally pay 35 for with a ph. And the Uber used a Sorento or something of the sort

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Re: Uber in Trinidad and Tobago

Postby Drea » September 1st, 2017, 9:56 am

Never used it.... but saw some people was looking for an uber to head up to a j'ouvert party up Maracas yesterday morning. The uber app quoted the price to be about $200-350 but it had no drivers... Men coulda make some serious cash

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