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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby eliteauto » September 10th, 2014, 3:38 pm

Chess getting so warm men wanna start with personal attack. De amount of tuners who have my transcript is impressive lol. And is the 2 most duncy sheep leading the charge

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby kjaglal76v2 » September 10th, 2014, 8:16 pm

loll,u was that eloquent when u was d keynote speaker in UWI? (as u claim)

who u was addressing? d men dem who does cut & upkeep d grounds

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby eliteauto » September 10th, 2014, 8:24 pm

lé frothé :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


stick to the topic at hand

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby rfari » September 10th, 2014, 8:43 pm

Pp sheep getting slay in le budget ched and they tryna sabotage it now yes

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby pugboy » September 10th, 2014, 8:57 pm

political parties love to have the diehard supporters who argue passionately to the point of getting vex and personal
they are the ones who usually eat a crumbs while the big fish above eat a real food

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby pugboy » September 10th, 2014, 9:38 pm

like chirren boil down, lol

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby rfari » September 10th, 2014, 10:48 pm

COMMANDER KAMLA

CRITICAL SECURITY BODY: Kamla Persad-Bissessar

The National Operations Centre (NOC) has been moved from the Ministry of National Security and placed under the Office of the Prime Minister (OPM), according to the Draft Estimates of Recurrent Expenditure, 2015. 

The NOC, the body which co-or­di­­­nates national joint operations, disaster and emergency crises, and interagency operations, was listed as an expenditure item under the Ministry of National Security in 2014 when it was allocated $80 million. This year, it has been placed as a “new sub-item” under the Office of the Prime Minister and has been allocated $355.6 million, according to the Draft Estimates of Recurrent Expenditure, 2015.  The document does not explain the reason for the significant increase.  Asked to explain the transfer of the NOC last night, National Security Minister Gary Griffith said the NOC always fell under the umbrella of the Prime Minister because she is head of the National Security Council. “The NOC deals with all aspects of national security. The Prime Min­ister is the chair of the National Security Council...however, for all operational purposes, it is run on a daily basis by the Ministry of National Security,” he said. He noted almost every arm of the NOC involved national security personnel.However, he said administratively, it came under the Prime Minister. Where there is a manmade or natural disaster, it would function from the OPM because it might dictate a joint working relationship among several ministers,” he said. “Now that we are totally establishing the NOC, funding, payment and expen­diture are coming under the Office of the Prime Minister,” he said. The Office of the Prime Minis­ter is spending $408.6 million more than it did last year and much of this increase is going towards the NOC.  According to the docu­- ment , the Unemployment Relief Programme (URP), which was under the OPM, has been moved to the Ministry of Works and Infrastructure.  
allocations 
Other allocations of interest under the OPM are the $1 million allocation to the “National Association of Administrative Professionals”.  Also, after a one-year hiatus, the Divine Echoes orchestra returns to the Office of the Prime Minister as an expenditure item and would receive $60,000.The Divine Echoes orchestra was created by former prime minister Patrick Manning in 2007 and received millions. Its allocation was $1.4 million in fiscal year 2013. In many of the ministries, there is an increase in the allocation for contract employment. In the Office of the Prime Minister, $12 million has been allocated for salaries to public servants but $13 million has been allocated for salaries for contract employment. The biggest increase in expenditure comes in the Ministry of the People and Social Development, which has been allocated $848.2 million more in 2015. According to the Draft Estimates of Expenditure, 2015, the lion’s share of this increased revenue would go towards the Senior Citizens Grant, which has been allocated $2.8 billion ($535.5 million more than 2014); social assistance, which was allo­cated $409 million ($155.6 million more than 2014); the Disability Grant, which was allocated $429 million ($82 million more than 2014); and the newly created “Relief for Underprivileged Mothers”, which has been allocated $120 million and is a new “sub-item”. According to the document, under the heading Ministry of Finance, Caribbean Airlines has been allocated a whopping $718 million in 2015, an increase of $465.2 million over last year’s allocation of $252 million. The document also reveals there were no deposits to the Heri­tage and Stabilisation Fund last year. The last deposit was in 2013 when $271.7 million was deposited.  One ministry that has seen a dramatic decrease in allocation is the Ministry of Sport, which was allocated $231.1 million less than it received in the last fiscal year. The SPORTT company, which managed the controversial LifeSport programme, received an allocation of $134 million. Under Transfers, SPORTT also received an allocation last fiscal year of $149.1 million, which is not continued into 2015. According to the document, CEPEP (Community-Based Environmental Protection and Enhancement Programme ) has been allocated $594.2 million in 2015.  The document also shows less money has been allocated to all local government bodies.  

 $130m for legal fees  
In the Ministry of the Attorney General, some $130 million has been allocated to the payment of fees in 2015, $18 million more than was given in 2014.  The bulk of this allo­cation is for forensic investigation.  The cost of retaining local attorneys is estimated at $27 million.


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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby zoom rader » September 11th, 2014, 12:58 am

pugboy wrote:political parties love to have the diehard supporters who argue passionately to the point of getting vex and personal
they are the ones who usually eat a crumbs while the big fish above eat a real food


Rfari is not pleased

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby RASC » September 11th, 2014, 3:42 am

toyota2nr wrote:I download it already. I just haven't read the whole thing


*spits kool aid out mouth*

BUT HE GIVING IT AN 8 OR 9………These people ah swear :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby RASC » September 11th, 2014, 3:55 am

Personal attacks?
This is normal with this bunch...they get emotional and go off on nonsensical tangents.
Be prepared for your CV, marital status, family heritage and sexual orientation all to be called upon in one post.

Stick to topic? Nah Nah Nah-that's something people who actually know about politics and political debate do. These here are rumshop rejects!

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby 16 cycles » September 11th, 2014, 6:13 am

Too many posts in too many threads on both sides of the political divide have been off topic.....is the internet....jus ignore the insult and keep to the point....dont get bait into discussing nonsense...

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 11th, 2014, 6:45 am

I was pleased with the budget for the most part except for one or 2 things.

The most significant is transport, this country has a ridiculous public transport system and forces everyone to buy a car. PTSC needs atleast 50 new Buses. And not this Chinese garbage they does be buying go back to buying European buses.

Infact Trinidad needs a train system. A rapid rail

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby rfari » September 11th, 2014, 6:50 am

rfari wrote:
16 cycles wrote:Who we borrowing money from and at what rate to finance the budget?

What going on with the stabalization fund?

Hsf get a hardluckboidanboy

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby 16 cycles » September 11th, 2014, 7:01 am

Thanks rfari...it weird...2014 budget says 5B....2015 says 5.6B....in hsf....and then same howai saying diff thing...

Hope there is independant oversight on the hsf...

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby rfari » September 11th, 2014, 7:22 am

16 cycles wrote:Thanks rfari...it weird...2014 budget says 5B....2015 says 5.6B....in hsf....and then same howai saying diff thing...

Hope there is independant oversight on the hsf...


He's correct but maybe a tad bit deceitful in the budget presentation. Its in investment accounts so the point hummuch billion was interest earned
Edit: page 76 of the budget statement there is mention of amendment to the hsf act. Seems like they want to separate it from central bank and form an 'independent' corporation with the same limited liability given to central bank now given to the board of governors.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby pete » September 11th, 2014, 10:26 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:I was pleased with the budget for the most part except for one or 2 things.

The most significant is transport, this country has a ridiculous public transport system and forces everyone to buy a car. PTSC needs atleast 50 new Buses. And not this Chinese garbage they does be buying go back to buying European buses.

Infact Trinidad needs a train system. A rapid rail


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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby toyota2nr » September 11th, 2014, 12:00 pm

eliteauto wrote:Chess getting so warm men wanna start with personal attack. De amount of tuners who have my transcript is impressive lol. And is the 2 most duncy sheep leading the charge


What more personal than calling people sheep for years now....

Come better than that....

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby toyota2nr » September 11th, 2014, 12:03 pm

RASC wrote:
toyota2nr wrote:I download it already. I just haven't read the whole thing


*spits kool aid out mouth*

BUT HE GIVING IT AN 8 OR 9………These people ah swear :lol: :lol: :lol:


I read all the highlights and proposals. Haven't gone into it in detail. Have you or you just condemning based on what your political pothound for a leader says.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 11th, 2014, 1:45 pm

[color=#FFBF00][/color]These people wasting time with a rapid bus system. Manning had the right idea with a rapid rail. Cadiz is a damn joker he thinking like a typical 3rd world minister.

Yeah I get that a bus system is much cheaper but a train system is the Best idea and a true first world idea. Yes it will take time to build but it was a great vision.

Imbert was more useless than Cadiz but at least imbert had some sort of vision. Its a damn Shame that manning didn't start that rapid rail sooner he was just all talk as well.

A great idea but again all talk. He had so much years to do it but refuses to in fact was the same PNM that scrapped our first train system to begin with. Just imagine this country had a train at one time.

I actually want RASC to address this and tell me which retard taught it was a good idea to abolish our once great train system. Yes we get that jokers like cadiz does exist and manning had by far the best idea but explain why manning never carried out the building of the rapid rail and explain why the PNM demolished the first train system.

All manning had to do was start the project and kamla would have been forced to carry it out

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Postby Spitfir3 » September 11th, 2014, 2:14 pm

that BRT system would have worked if there was a separate carriageway for it but in most locations they would just be using the crowded traffic congested roads

people who sit in traffic for hours would sill have to sit in traffic for hours and leave 5'0 in the morning to reach to work for 8-9

its no shocker the rapid rail system would cost a hefty sumn but transiting from point a to b would be much more efficient

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby Les Bain » September 11th, 2014, 2:24 pm

Wasn't decentralization part of the plan to allleviate road congestion? Whatever came of it?

Having temporarily experienced the joy of not working in POS, I can really attest to how much of a good idea that is.

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Postby Habit7 » September 11th, 2014, 2:50 pm

Decentralise to where?

That just makes suburban areas more congested and harder for employees who travel to get there.

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Postby teems1 » September 11th, 2014, 3:35 pm

Habit7 wrote:Decentralise to where?

That just makes suburban areas more congested and harder for employees who travel to get there.


Wait, what?

Putting a Ministry/passport/id/BIR etc office anywhere along the bus route would negate that argument.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby TriniAutoMart » September 11th, 2014, 4:24 pm

Off the top of my head...

Expanding the dependency syndrome.
I have a problem with this.

Personal allowance should be higher and it should be across the board. The rate of inflation has been so high over the years that $60,000 for the year is now pitiful as the personal allowance. It should have been doubled to $120,000 per annum.

Agreeing with more money being put into education. Investment for the future. Now they need to put in some kind of regulation/standard for all degrees being taught to ensure that the quality is high.

Agreeing with the increase in fines for traffic offences.

Agreeing with the tax amnesty. It will generate additional revenue and give everyone a chance to bring their taxes up to date with no penalty.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby zoom rader » September 11th, 2014, 5:20 pm

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:[color=#FFBF00][/color]These people wasting time with a rapid bus system. Manning had the right idea with a rapid rail. Cadiz is a damn joker he thinking like a typical 3rd world minister.

Yeah I get that a bus system is much cheaper but a train system is the Best idea and a true first world idea. Yes it will take time to build but it was a great vision.

Imbert was more useless than Cadiz but at least imbert had some sort of vision. Its a damn Shame that manning didn't start that rapid rail sooner he was just all talk as well.

A great idea but again all talk. He had so much years to do it but refuses to in fact was the same PNM that scrapped our first train system to begin with. Just imagine this country had a train at one time.

I actually want RASC to address this and tell me which retard taught it was a good idea to abolish our once great train system. Yes we get that jokers like cadiz does exist and manning had by far the best idea but explain why manning never carried out the building of the rapid rail and explain why the PNM demolished the first train system.

All manning had to do was start the project and kamla would have been forced to carry it out


RASC can't address you on the abolishment of the last train service we had .
Hes a johnny come lately.

The abolishment of the train service was a result of a PNM smart man and the car dealers at that time to push for it.

The the smart man convinced the pnm to get rid of it, he lined himself up to sell the assets as scrap steel and the trains to Brazil . The guy made a mint.

The car companies push for it to get new car sales . It was as simple as that.

All the other British colonies that had train services held on to it and improve what the brits had left. Only Trinidad made a mess if it.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby redmanjp » September 11th, 2014, 6:50 pm

Spitfir3 wrote:that BRT system would have worked if there was a separate carriageway for it but in most locations they would just be using the crowded traffic congested roads

people who sit in traffic for hours would sill have to sit in traffic for hours and leave 5'0 in the morning to reach to work for 8-9

its no shocker the rapid rail system would cost a hefty sumn but transiting from point a to b would be much more efficient


well at least east to west have d PBR

the whole idea of a BRT is so that ppl would leave their cars home and use it- perhaps road tolls can be introduced for certain cars (e.g.- plates from pca-pch) on certain days, allowing less congestion and facilitating the BRT

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby nemisis » September 11th, 2014, 7:09 pm

A properly working public transit would be all the incentive anyone would need, using tolls and restrictions by plates would force an already taxed public transport system to collapse even more.

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zoom rader wrote:RASC can't address you on the abolishment of the last train service we had .
Hes a johnny come lately.

The abolishment of the train service was a result of a PNM smart man and the car dealers at that time to push for it.

The the smart man convinced the pnm to get rid of it, he lined himself up to sell the assets as scrap steel and the trains to Brazil . The guy made a mint.

The car companies push for it to get new car sales . It was as simple as that.

All the other British colonies that had train services held on to it and improve what the brits had left. Only Trinidad made a mess if it.


Thanks for clearing it up I had my money on that, I just knew PNM was in that racket, just imagine people in city gate on evenings blaming Kamla for the situation with PTSC not having enough buses. If only the morons would stop and think that Trinidad had a train but the great PNM got rid of it.

I wonder all them people on PNM facebook page who keep posting the same copy and paste "great is the PNM" ever stopped and think for a second what the PNM did with our train system? Even if they decide on a train no one knows where they going to run it since the old train line has been taken over by squatters.

Once Kamla wins the next election I certainly hope to see her atleast rethink a rapid rail system we need another train in Trinidad there is no 2 ways about this. A few billion every year could be put aside towards this and over the course of 12 years or so we could have the train.

Oil prices might skyrocket again with ISIS and a US war with them. Especially since Germany etc seems to be pushing for a war with them if this plays out we could get rich. Cadiz said the train will cost $22 Billion but its not an impossible figure to reach.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby EFFECTIC DESIGNS » September 11th, 2014, 7:22 pm

nemisis wrote:A properly working public transit would be all the incentive anyone would need, using tolls and restrictions by plates would force an already taxed public transport system to collapse even more.


Lets say we had a Train, a really fast one. Majority of the people in this country would opt for this Train to go to work in port of spain you would be there within minutes.

I does leave him 6 AM and does reach port of spain almost 9 AM. Now I don't need the train to be within close proximity of my house, all I need is for it to exist so people can be tempted to use it as an alternative to their cars and this alone might solve the whole traffic problem atleast to some extent. I know a lot of people would rather use a train and reach from one end of the country to the other within minutes rather than spend hours in their personal car.

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Re: Budget 2014/2015

Postby desifemlove » September 12th, 2014, 7:18 am

EFFECTIC DESIGNS wrote:
zoom rader wrote:RASC can't address you on the abolishment of the last train service we had .
Hes a johnny come lately.

The abolishment of the train service was a result of a PNM smart man and the car dealers at that time to push for it.

The the smart man convinced the pnm to get rid of it, he lined himself up to sell the assets as scrap steel and the trains to Brazil . The guy made a mint.

The car companies push for it to get new car sales . It was as simple as that.

All the other British colonies that had train services held on to it and improve what the brits had left. Only Trinidad made a mess if it.


Thanks for clearing it up I had my money on that, I just knew PNM was in that racket, just imagine people in city gate on evenings blaming Kamla for the situation with PTSC not having enough buses. If only the morons would stop and think that Trinidad had a train but the great PNM got rid of it.

I wonder all them people on PNM facebook page who keep posting the same copy and paste "great is the PNM" ever stopped and think for a second what the PNM did with our train system? Even if they decide on a train no one knows where they going to run it since the old train line has been taken over by squatters.

Once Kamla wins the next election I certainly hope to see her atleast rethink a rapid rail system we need another train in Trinidad there is no 2 ways about this. A few billion every year could be put aside towards this and over the course of 12 years or so we could have the train.

Oil prices might skyrocket again with ISIS and a US war with them. Especially since Germany etc seems to be pushing for a war with them if this plays out we could get rich. Cadiz said the train will cost $22 Billion but its not an impossible figure to reach.


long-term loans? if it take 30 years to pay off, why not? it will be used all that time...

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