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Roll up those sleeves, first booster of many to comewtf wrote:Hearing talk of a 3rd vaccine shot.
hover11 wrote:Roll up those sleeves, first booster of many to comewtf wrote:Hearing talk of a 3rd vaccine shot.
Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence ,also if you look at precedent it is safe to say first booster of MANYst7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Roll up those sleeves, first booster of many to comewtf wrote:Hearing talk of a 3rd vaccine shot.
aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:sam1978 wrote:Some of you all blaming the unvaccinated for the spread of the virus but none of the vaccines prevents you from getting and spreading the virus so when it comes to the spreading of the virus, it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or not so I don't know what led you all to believe it's the unvaccinated spreading the virus. As well, if an unvaccinated person infected someone know that the result would have been the same if the person was vaccinated. Is it that you all comfortable with a person spreading the virus as long as they are vaccinated?
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
hover11 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/germanys-vaccination-rate-could-be-higher-than-previously-thought/a-59438663st7 wrote:hover11 wrote:Germany is 80 percent vaccinated.adnj wrote:How would you rate it?eitech wrote:adnj wrote:eitech wrote:adnj wrote:
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
This holds for unvaxxed ppl who properly mask, sanitize and social distance?
Vaxxed people can become infected. Unvaxxed people can become infected more than 10× as often.
3Ws + vaccination is 10× better than 3Ws by itself.
Interesting. So how would you rate vaccination by itself vs 3Ws?
Look at countries data with low vaccination rates vs. high vaccination rates.
Look at infection rates before vaccination were available vs. After the rate hit 50%.
Meanwhile in Germany :
German COVID-19 cases hit daily record as health ministers meet
https://www.reuters.com/business/enviro ... 021-11-04/
really? post your source. we'll wait.
or are you gonna ignore this because we've caught on to your bs again? stop spreading misinformation
Germany's vaccination rate could be higher than previously thought
Based on their estimates, some 80% of people in Germany have received both jabs, with 84% having received at least their first. The estimates put the total share of vaccinated people at around 5 percentage points higher than official data — around 3.5 million people.
Simple Google search
Good use of the excess vaccines.hover11 wrote:Roll up those sleeves, first booster of many to comewtf wrote:Hearing talk of a 3rd vaccine shot.
ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:sam1978 wrote:Some of you all blaming the unvaccinated for the spread of the virus but none of the vaccines prevents you from getting and spreading the virus so when it comes to the spreading of the virus, it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or not so I don't know what led you all to believe it's the unvaccinated spreading the virus. As well, if an unvaccinated person infected someone know that the result would have been the same if the person was vaccinated. Is it that you all comfortable with a person spreading the virus as long as they are vaccinated?
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
loopnews wrote: COVID-19
T&T to offer third COVID-19 vaccine dose to eligible individuals
Trinidad and Tobago will offer an additional primary dose of the COVID-19 vaccine to eligible individuals.
Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh made the announcement while speaking at the Ministry of Health's virtual media conference on Saturday.
These shots, he explained, are not considered booster shots but additional primary doses.
He added that a third Sinopharm shot will be administered to people aged 60 years and over and to moderately to severely immunocompromised people.
Immunocompromised groups, he said, include those with active cancer, transplant recipients, those with an immunodeficiency, HIV patients and those on immunosuppressives.
Additionally, Deyalsingh said those who have been fully vaccinated with the AstraZeneca, Pfizer and Johnson & Johnson vaccines will be administered a third shot one to three months thereafter.
Meanwhile, Chief Medical Officer (CMO) Dr Roshan Parasram further explained that those who received the AstraZeneca vaccine can be administered a third dose of the Pfizer vaccine
Pfizer stands to make $36B in profit from the vaccine for 2021 good on themaaron17 wrote:So a normal shot better than a booster?
If they don't mandate ppl to use sinopharm then the sinopharm we paid for will go to waste and our Chinese overlords will not appreciate thatMmoney607 wrote:But if they had research the thing properly, why the whole thing changing up now?
Mmoney607 wrote:But if they had research the thing properly, why the whole thing changing up now?
aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:sam1978 wrote:Some of you all blaming the unvaccinated for the spread of the virus but none of the vaccines prevents you from getting and spreading the virus so when it comes to the spreading of the virus, it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or not so I don't know what led you all to believe it's the unvaccinated spreading the virus. As well, if an unvaccinated person infected someone know that the result would have been the same if the person was vaccinated. Is it that you all comfortable with a person spreading the virus as long as they are vaccinated?
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
So waning immunity from vaccines doesn't have a part to play in it as well?adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:sam1978 wrote:Some of you all blaming the unvaccinated for the spread of the virus but none of the vaccines prevents you from getting and spreading the virus so when it comes to the spreading of the virus, it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or not so I don't know what led you all to believe it's the unvaccinated spreading the virus. As well, if an unvaccinated person infected someone know that the result would have been the same if the person was vaccinated. Is it that you all comfortable with a person spreading the virus as long as they are vaccinated?
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
You're wrong. The formula for calculating the herd-immunity threshold is 1–1/R0 — meaning that the more people who become infected by each individual who has the virus, the higher the proportion of the population that needs to be immune to reach herd immunity.
R0 for the flu is 2; ancestral COVID ~3; COVID delta ~5.
People that can't or won't vaccinate quickly are the reason that herd immunity is difficult or impossible to achieve with COVID.
You believe that booster shots are unnecessary - that's why the calculations don't make sense to you.hover11 wrote:So waning immunity from vaccines doesn't have a part to play in it as well?adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:sam1978 wrote:Some of you all blaming the unvaccinated for the spread of the virus but none of the vaccines prevents you from getting and spreading the virus so when it comes to the spreading of the virus, it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or not so I don't know what led you all to believe it's the unvaccinated spreading the virus. As well, if an unvaccinated person infected someone know that the result would have been the same if the person was vaccinated. Is it that you all comfortable with a person spreading the virus as long as they are vaccinated?
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
You're wrong. The formula for calculating the herd-immunity threshold is 1–1/R0 — meaning that the more people who become infected by each individual who has the virus, the higher the proportion of the population that needs to be immune to reach herd immunity.
R0 for the flu is 2; ancestral COVID ~3; COVID delta ~5.
People that can't or won't vaccinate quickly are the reason that herd immunity is difficult or impossible to achieve with COVID.
But u didn't answer the question thoadnj wrote:You believe that booster shots are unnecessary - that's why the calculations don't make sense to you.hover11 wrote:So waning immunity from vaccines doesn't have a part to play in it as well?adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:sam1978 wrote:Some of you all blaming the unvaccinated for the spread of the virus but none of the vaccines prevents you from getting and spreading the virus so when it comes to the spreading of the virus, it doesn't make a difference if you're vaccinated or not so I don't know what led you all to believe it's the unvaccinated spreading the virus. As well, if an unvaccinated person infected someone know that the result would have been the same if the person was vaccinated. Is it that you all comfortable with a person spreading the virus as long as they are vaccinated?
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
You're wrong. The formula for calculating the herd-immunity threshold is 1–1/R0 — meaning that the more people who become infected by each individual who has the virus, the higher the proportion of the population that needs to be immune to reach herd immunity.
R0 for the flu is 2; ancestral COVID ~3; COVID delta ~5.
People that can't or won't vaccinate quickly are the reason that herd immunity is difficult or impossible to achieve with COVID.
Had you understood the formula - your question would be moot.hover11 wrote:But u didn't answer the question thoadnj wrote:You believe that booster shots are unnecessary - that's why the calculations don't make sense to you.hover11 wrote:So waning immunity from vaccines doesn't have a part to play in it as well?adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.adnj wrote:
Yeah. It really does. Unvaxxed people (fuel) keep the spread going.
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
You're wrong. The formula for calculating the herd-immunity threshold is 1–1/R0 — meaning that the more people who become infected by each individual who has the virus, the higher the proportion of the population that needs to be immune to reach herd immunity.
R0 for the flu is 2; ancestral COVID ~3; COVID delta ~5.
People that can't or won't vaccinate quickly are the reason that herd immunity is difficult or impossible to achieve with COVID.
COVID-19: Ireland's Co Waterford has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world - so why are cases surging?New figures thisadnj wrote:Had you understood the formula - your question would be moot.hover11 wrote:But u didn't answer the question thoadnj wrote:You believe that booster shots are unnecessary - that's why the calculations don't make sense to you.hover11 wrote:So waning immunity from vaccines doesn't have a part to play in it as well?adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?aaron17 wrote:That graphic is misinformation though.
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
You're wrong. The formula for calculating the herd-immunity threshold is 1–1/R0 — meaning that the more people who become infected by each individual who has the virus, the higher the proportion of the population that needs to be immune to reach herd immunity.
R0 for the flu is 2; ancestral COVID ~3; COVID delta ~5.
People that can't or won't vaccinate quickly are the reason that herd immunity is difficult or impossible to achieve with COVID.
The shits not free. The govts have to buy them from the drug manufacturers.hover11 wrote:COVID-19: Ireland's Co Waterford has one of the highest vaccination rates in the world - so why are cases surging?New figures thisadnj wrote:Had you understood the formula - your question would be moot.hover11 wrote:But u didn't answer the question thoadnj wrote:You believe that booster shots are unnecessary - that's why the calculations don't make sense to you.hover11 wrote:So waning immunity from vaccines doesn't have a part to play in it as well?adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:ed360123 wrote:How exactly?
You can just take out 'herd immunity ' part and ur good to go.
You're wrong. The formula for calculating the herd-immunity threshold is 1–1/R0 — meaning that the more people who become infected by each individual who has the virus, the higher the proportion of the population that needs to be immune to reach herd immunity.
R0 for the flu is 2; ancestral COVID ~3; COVID delta ~5.
People that can't or won't vaccinate quickly are the reason that herd immunity is difficult or impossible to achieve with COVID.
Ireland is 75 percent fully vaxxed btw
https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sky.c ... O-A01206:0
Phone Surgeon wrote:Glad I took the vaccines yes.
Sore throat gone
Just slight sniffles and a slight headache now and then
Even if they don't lockdown at least a roll back this is getting out of hand and ppl not seeing that until you see 500 cases a daywtf wrote:Rowley talking tonight at 7:30pm.
Let's hope he doesn't lockdown anything.
Ajit Lalvani, chair of infectious diseases, and director of the NIHR Health Protection Research Unit in Respiratory Infections, Imperial College London, said, “What we found, surprisingly, was that by three months after the second vaccine dose, the risk of acquiring infection was high compared with being more recently vaccinated. This suggests that vaccine induced protection is already waning by about three months after the second dose.”
Asked whether boosters should be brought forward in light of the findings, Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis, Imperial College London, said, “Six months is an arbitrary cut-off. It was chosen because most of the early data from Israel on the effect of boosters involve that level of delay.” He added, “Biologically, there’s nothing to make us think the boosters will be any less effective if given after four months. It is for the Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation to consider the data and the government to consider whether they want to accelerate the booster programme.”
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