COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

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[Dohplaydat]

Do you all really believe for a second that there is only 49 cases of this in this country?

Look at the US and other places it is spreading like wildfire, Trinis still, for the most part, do not wash their hands, etc there is clearly more cases here just not confirmed, don't be surprised if you suddenly hear one morning that half this country has Covid 19

No there likely 10 times that due to the asymptomatic carriers. When extensive testing is done we'll no the real truth.

Expect a lot more locally transmitted cases reaching the hospital next week.

As it stands, our testing procedures are grossly misrepresenting the number.

Enlighten me..why next week tho?not because they testing.

- Carnival Visitors would have left for the latest by Mar 1st, but most would have arrived Feb 19th. So let's assume the bulk of transmissions happen on Carnival Mon 24th (average or mean, not mode).
- Symptoms first show (median is 5 days, 97% will show by 14 days) so that's Feb 29th to March 5th being the likely carnival infections. With the 5th being close to the tail end of the normal distribution curve for those.
- Trinis who went away for Carnival come back between Feb 25th and Mar 1st as well, so let's use Feb 27th as the mean date of transmission to others. Assuming they picked it up in the airports, they likely show symptoms similarly Mar 3rd to 10th.
- Hospitals were testing since before carnival I believe, and we pick up our first case on the 14th. The most likely date that person got the virus was ~7 days prior, but could well be even 2 weeks.
- Let's now assume local to local cases start on the 14th as well, but it could have easily happened prior.
- Our local to local cases should now begin to be detected (this week coming), roughly 7 days after being infected by someone.
- These people now spread it to at least 3-4 people, who again will show up on our tests in 2 weeks from today.
- This cycle continues and we should be spiking with 500-1000 detected cases by end the mid to end of April

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

someone said if they called a SOE and shut down most of the country it will destroy Trinidad and we won't recover.

[DTAC]

Regardless, it seems very unlikely that Carnival brought Covid-19 here, there would have been far more cases by now.

In the end, it was inevitable it would end up here.

here's the rub... until yesterday, the criteria for testing involved having travel history. If we did get community spread following Carnival, we would not have detected any cases since those persons did not have a travel history.

Next week the Ministry will be conducting much more testing under the expanded criteria. Only then will we know if we picked up anything.

So why ppl not popping up as conmunity spread?..like flu symptoms etc.

Because like my girlfriend last week who showed every symptom, she was told it was 'sinus" and sent her merry way. People either ain't going and pay for a doctor or want to go to a medical centre for whatever reason. Then you have a huge portion of the population who'll say two bay leaf and a chicken foot will cure them.
Trinis only take something serious either when it hits them in the face or after the fact.

[MaxPower]

someone said if they called a SOE and shut down most of the country it will destroy Trinidad and we won't recover.

Hello ED,

The people have destroyed T&T for quite some time now.

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^well that is true

But now a bigger problem

https://us.cnn.com/2020/03/22/us/georgi ... index.html

12-year-old girl with coronavirus is on a ventilator and fighting for her life
us.cnn.com/2020/0

" Emma had no pre-existing conditions. She has not traveled recently and it's unknown how she contracted the virus"

[EFFECTIC DESIGNS]

What do we do now? seeing as how dangerous this thing is and how it mutates easily what do we do?

DO we shut down the whole country? but if we do that where do we get money from to live? if the government gives it to us where do they get it? and what if after all that it doesn't go away in 2 months? what if we never get rid of this?

When I told people about how serious this thing is and to shut down Carnival and ban everybody they all thought it wasn't needed because like all outbreaks nothing ever reaches us because God is a Trini.

[aaron17]

Hmmm

[pugboy]

macqueripe stretch locked off to exercise folks
only cars allowed

[aaron17]

Never even thought about ppl went to escape from carnival. Wish the govt would keep tabs on them if they develop symptoms who came back but ...there may be no symptoms at all...daiz it day I guess....

[adnj]

What do we do now? ...

You deal with it using the same tools that the similar pandemics have been dealt with.

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While the 1918 H1N1 virus has been synthesized and evaluated, the properties that made it so devastating are not well understood. With no vaccine to protect against influenza infection and no antibiotics to treat secondary bacterial infections that can be associated with influenza infections, control efforts worldwide were limited to non-pharmaceutical interventions such as isolation, quarantine, good personal hygiene, use of disinfectants, and limitations of public gatherings, which were applied unevenly.

The Spanish flu pandemic of 1918, the deadliest in history, infected an estimated 500 million people worldwide—about one-third of the planet’s population—and killed an estimated 20 million to 50 million victims, including some 675,000 Americans. The 1918 flu was first observed in Europe, the United States and parts of Asia before swiftly spreading around the world. At the time, there were no effective drugs or vaccines to treat this killer flu strain. Citizens were ordered to wear masks, schools, theaters and businesses were shuttered and bodies piled up in makeshift morgues before the virus ended its deadly global march.

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[paid_influencer]

Watching Trump on TV now. US getting their supply chain in high gear. Also new game-changer tests that are easy to take and results in 45 minutes (no word on when it will be available).

[pugboy]

the drive thru tests are being shutdown
proven to be inaccurate

[MaxPower]

3 passengers came in on American Airlines a while ago with high temperatures...

Escorted off the compound by the authorities to where ever...

Call allyuh contacts and find out some more info

[redmanjp]

we would have seen at least 1 or 2 deaths by now for every 100 cases so i doh think we bad off.

and to ignore or refuse to test a mild case is one thing but i cyah see the govt refusing to test someone who has severe symptoms or dies. i mean u would want to know what such a person died from right?

[redmanjp]

3 passengers came in on American Airlines a while ago with high temperatures...

Escorted off the compound by the authorities to where ever...

Call allyuh contacts and find out some more info

they in quarantine now right? i think at least the 10-15 ppl around them in teh plane should also be quarantined as well

[gastly369]

Saw the NCRHA report?
Can't confirm how genuine

we would have seen at least 1 or 2 deaths by now for every 100 cases so i doh think we bad off.

and to ignore or refuse to test a mild case is one thing but i cyah see the govt refusing to test someone who has severe symptoms or dies. i mean u would want to know what such a person died from right?

[pugboy]

the cruisers are allegedly all ageable folks
hope they prove the mortality stats wrong

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FDA Approves First Rapid COVID-19 Test

March 21, 20206:38 PM ET


The Food and Drug Administration has approved the first rapid point-of-care COVID-19 test, that can deliver results in less than an hour.

Cepheid, a Silicon Valley diagnostics company, made the announcement on Saturday, saying it has received emergency authorization from the government to use the test.

While the agency has approved about a dozen other COVID-19 tests in response to the public health emergency caused by the coronavirus pandemic, this is the first one that can be used at the point of care.

Cepheid said the test kits will be available by the end of the month.

Until now, to get test result, a health care worker would take a swab from the back of a person's nose, and send it off to a public health, commercial or hospital lab, or to a lab at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. The process can take days.

The newly approved test kit still involves taking a nasal swab, but the test can be done in a doctor's office or clinic with a detection time of approximately 45 minutes, according to Cepheid.

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Watching Trump on TV now. US getting their supply chain in high gear. Also new game-changer tests that are easy to take and results in 45 minutes (no word on when it will be available).

Tests available at the end of the month.

[Gladiator]

We need some police like this...

[sMASH]

Watching Trump on TV now. US getting their supply chain in high gear. Also new game-changer tests that are easy to take and results in 45 minutes (no word on when it will be available).

self administered nasal swabs, no need for a medical professional, they have better things to do.
the american manufacturing monster is reawakening. people want jaabs, trump's gonna give ya jaabs.

[RedVEVO]

someone said if they called a SOE and shut down most of the country it will destroy Trinidad and we won't recover.

Hello ED,

The people have destroyed T&T for quite some time now.

Hello ED,

The people have another SOE in T&T for quite some time now.

[MaxPower]

3 passengers came in on American Airlines a while ago with high temperatures...

Escorted off the compound by the authorities to where ever...

Call allyuh contacts and find out some more info

they in quarantine now right? i think at least the 10-15 ppl around them in teh plane should also be quarantined as well

Well u know how it goes.

They came in with high temps yeh, but the authorities will decide if to test them or tell them to “self quarantine” like everyone else on the flight.

Only IF they get tested positive for the Cove, only then will they have to quarantine the entire flight.

But speaking of quarantine,

Let me commend the people of T&T who are abiding by the 14 day self quarantine that is mandatory for all arriving passengers. Im sure, even though they are feeling ok, they, being responsible Trinidadians, will not commute with the general public before the duration of the said process. Yeh ok

[wickedtuna]

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 0e06c.html

Hundreds of Trinis rush to beat deadline...

Hundreds of Trinidad and Tobago citizens made a desperate dash to return home yesterday before the borders were officially closed at midnight.

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Trump Deploys National Guard To Help States Respond To The Coronavirus | NBC News

[MaxPower]

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/the-great-escape/article_a914fdfc-6c9e-11ea-bb49-eba58e60e06c.html

Hundreds of Trinis rush to beat deadline...

Hundreds of Trinidad and Tobago citizens made a desperate dash to return home yesterday before the borders were officially closed at midnight.

Rest assured, every single one of them will self quarantine for the full 14 days....

Anyone tested positive for Covid19, authorities should check their travel history and charge them if there is evidence that they did not SQ.

[paid_influencer]

this is a question from me. and admittedly I haven't listened to the Ministry news conferences in full.

Is there anything being done to quarantine the doctors, nurses, pharmacists and other staff that are currently working in the Couva COVID19 hospital?

once their shift for the day is over, are these medical staff going to grocery, etc?

[Dohplaydat]

someone said if they called a SOE and shut down most of the country it will destroy Trinidad and we won't recover.

Who say that this time ED? Yuh neighbor? The PNM co-worker? The fat PNM co-worker? The fat PNM mampee on the maxi? Yuh racist UNC family?

[bluefete]

US stock markets (Dow Jones, Nasdaq) will plummet when trading starts tomorrow morning.

[rspann]

this is a question from me. and admittedly I haven't listened to the Ministry news conferences in full.

Is there anything being done to quarantine the doctors, nurses, pharmacists and other staff that are currently working in the Couva COVID19 hospital?

once their shift for the day is over, are these medical staff going to grocery, etc?

My nephew working there from Tom. He says they will be working one week on two weeks off. I don't know if the 14 days has the significance I think it does.