PC Tech/Gaming Info Thread

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

am I missing something? Or is it that people just not researching before buying?

i feel its that self.

I still dont get why after so much debate and all the links shared, 1366 still being preferred. Even the i5's perform well and can be compared as a bang for buck.

As I said unless one is getting 1366 parts on sale... like at least 20% off... i dont see why not pay 20-50usd more and get the better hardware. Its probably something that you want lasting your 3-5 years (if you paid so much in the first place) why not get the best at the moment in time.
/rant

but the newer 1155 parts are cheaper, not more expensive!

the 1155 RAM is dual channel and cheaper than the triple channel needed for the 1366.

the PSU can be cheaper since you don't need a big wattage as the processor uses considerably less power, even when overclocked. And the RAM is usually 1.5v

the 1155 processors are cheaper than the 1366, clock for clock and core for core.
an i7 2600k is one third the price of a 980x

You may not even need to buy a video card since the 1155 has a pretty capable GPU built into the CPU.

the smaller die means less power and less heat which means you can spend less on CPU cooling and case fans, even at high clock speeds.

I'm running 1155 i7 2600k at 4.5Ghz air cooled, CPU fan running at ~700rpm and temps of 32`C at idle and ~50`C at load. Smaller T&TEC bill FTW! lol

[HCCA]

I'm running 1155 i7 2600k at 4.5Ghz air cooled, CPU fan running at ~700rpm and temps of 32`C at idle and ~50`C at load. Smaller T&TEC bill FTW! lol

What is your ambient room temp? A/C in the room?

[speedaholic]

My idle temps with my AMD phenom 955 Black edition is ussually around 31-32`C as welll no a/c.. with a/c on it goes down to about 27-28`C

[HCCA]

My idle temps with my AMD phenom 955 Black edition is ussually around 31-32`C as welll no a/c.. with a/c on it goes down to about 27-28`C

Load temps matter more.

Plus it have two versions of that cpu, 95W and 125W. Which is it you have?

[fouljuice]

I don't have much of a problem with my psu wires since it is semi-modular, but the wires for the case fans make it look crowded.





and yeah i know it need cleaning

my 955 idles at ~34C with the side panel removed and at 100% stress it reaches ~58C with the stock cooler BUT I have a room fan facing the cpu too.

[HCCA]

^^That is why i using liquid cooling now. The place hot these days so air cooling just not cutting it again for me.

Plus when i using liquid i don't have to full the cases with fans so that means less dust for me to clean as well.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ the room is air conditioned at around 25`C

[M_2NR]

but the newer 1155 parts are cheaper, not more expensive!

the 1155 RAM is dual channel and cheaper than the triple channel needed for the 1366.

the PSU can be cheaper since you don't need a big wattage as the processor uses considerably less power, even when overclocked. And the RAM is usually 1.5v

the 1155 processors are cheaper than the 1366, clock for clock and core for core.
an i7 2600k is one third the price of a 980x

You may not even need to buy a video card since the 1155 has a pretty capable GPU built into the CPU.

the smaller die means less power and less heat which means you can spend less on CPU cooling and case fans, even at high clock speeds.

I'm running 1155 i7 2600k at 4.5Ghz air cooled, CPU fan running at ~700rpm and temps of 32`C at idle and ~50`C at load. Smaller T&TEC bill FTW! lol

bai they done buy it...
BTW i passing next week with meh watt-o-meter and I go test how much watts yuh bunning under load

^^I cyar tell u how much i hate that case nah.

When i bought my first one abt 3 yrs ago i thought it was 'da bomb'. Good cooling and aesthetics but oh god the inside cramp up. Bought a used one abt 2 yrs later (cheap nah) but i sell it fast fast to a tuner.

The Antec 1200 better doh, gonna keep that for my amd system.

Latest build is ah Thermaltake Xaser VI case. It come out neat enuff but i have to install ah custom liquid cooling kit in it before i close it up. Should be able to post pics next week in it's current state.

hoss... anytime i watch my case and think about cable management i does remember you telling me the same ting! and then i does think... geeez this case really made for a modular psu yes...


i hadda check out that Thermaltake Xaser VI. I rather a matte finish on a case tho, this piano black ting eh working out. The mini pc case, it has that glossy finish and dust forever sticking on it.

[ruffneck_12]

how much wud it cost to bring down something as big as a GPU @ US$157.56 from new egg?

[speedaholic]

My idle temps with my AMD phenom 955 Black edition is ussually around 31-32`C as welll no a/c.. with a/c on it goes down to about 27-28`C

Load temps matter more.

Plus it have two versions of that cpu, 95W and 125W. Which is it you have?

mine is the 125W... under heavy load eg. running Crysis2 temp go up to about 55-60 MAX.. never crossed 60.. in the a/c i dont cross 52...

[fouljuice]

how much wud it cost to bring down something as big as a GPU @ US$157.56 from new egg?

can't say exactly. most people just x10 for the final price in $TT and use that as a guide, comes up to less most of the time. You might come out better if you could get it in a reliable local store because you will still get a local warranty.

mine is the 125W... under heavy load eg. running Crysis2 temp go up to about 55-60 MAX.. never crossed 60.. in the a/c i dont cross 52...

What cpu cooler you using?
Sometimes my stock cooler sounds like a jet taking off when it reaches ~58C.

[HCCA]

My idle temps with my AMD phenom 955 Black edition is ussually around 31-32`C as welll no a/c.. with a/c on it goes down to about 27-28`C

Load temps matter more.

Plus it have two versions of that cpu, 95W and 125W. Which is it you have?

mine is the 125W... under heavy load eg. running Crysis2 temp go up to about 55-60 MAX.. never crossed 60.. in the a/c i dont cross 52...

Normal temps yes. My 1090T (125w) oc to 3.5ghz idles at 27c and 42c all cores loaded under a Thermaltake Kandalf liquid cooling system. Only mods to that system was an OCZ Hydroflow cpu block and 3 120mm Coolermaster 110 cfm fans to the rad.

The only air cooling i content with right now is a Noctua NH-U12P HSF with dual 120mm fans. Cools as good as and slightly better than the Corsair H50 all in one LCS cooler i have as well.

Ordered one of these for cooling the i7-930 cpu and a single video card: http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11743 ... _-HOT.html

Can't wait to get that kit

[Virus]

My idle temps with my AMD phenom 955 Black edition is ussually around 31-32`C as welll no a/c.. with a/c on it goes down to about 27-28`C

Load temps matter more.

Plus it have two versions of that cpu, 95W and 125W. Which is it you have?

mine is the 125W... under heavy load eg. running Crysis2 temp go up to about 55-60 MAX.. never crossed 60.. in the a/c i dont cross 52...

I have a 940 125 with no ac i get around 52 under load at idle i get 42 or lower with a H50 and two silverstone 121 110cfm fans

The only major heat i produce is from my gtx 280 ocx but with the factory backplate i stay within reason and never cross 75% on my fan speed

[speedaholic]

hmmmi have integrated GPU... and i runnin on the stock cooler as well...

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

I was impressed with the Corsair A70, especially on the Sandy Bridge which produces much less heat.
The only thing was the fan noise of the stock 120mm fans (which both ran at 1600rpm) so I swapped them out for a pair of Noctua NS-F12B which the mainboard runs at ~670rpm - I can't even tell my PC is on!

my temps remained the same as with the noisy fans even under load.

The Noctua NS fans were so good I bought a 92mm to replace the stock fan in my NAS which was sounding like a turbo-prop plane taking off.

http://www.noctua.at/

http://www.amazon.com/NF-S12B-FLX-Setti ... =pd_cp_e_3

[M_2NR]

^you and this noctua thing... if you talk one more time about them, i go end up buying a set of 120mm yes >_>

I think i need to move that HDD yes... before my GPU used to go down straight to 28C now the lowest is 35C.

The CPU idles around 40C-45C and under load goes up to 53-57 (latter figures w/o ac). Yea the zalman needs a proper clean out. my load temps used to never cross 51

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(see what u causing...)

Duane, whats the difference between the P12 and the one you are buying the S12B?

also, are these fan filter things useful?

Frankly i FED UP cleaning sheit every 3 months.

[Chimera]

i honestly didn't do any research, just told a friend who builds pcs that i wanted a new pc and was willing to spend 8k and to gimme a list of parts to buy

u cud stop beating me up u know duane


@ whoever was asking about how much duties, didn't pay any duties on anything, just freight.

[Chimera]

also i don't game, i don't use video or photo editing progs so i dont need the best of the best

[HCCA]

also i don't game, i don't use video or photo editing progs so i dont need the best of the best

Then what you gonna use the pc for?

Best u did buy ah cheap laptop or something if you not gonna stress the system.

[Chimera]

didnt get a new pc in years, the current one, if i tryin to use google chrome and i open windows media player, it does crash so time for an upgrade

8k is nun to spend on a new pc rly

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ a PC builder friend advised you buy them parts? dais not your friend! lol

I don't game but I do wanna do some video editing - is not a matter of best of the best, rather it is about future proofing. The 1366 will not be upgraded any more by Intel since it's their old enthusiast platform, but the 1155 will be intensely in the coming year(s) and their new enthusiast platform 2011 will be out later this year.

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(see what u causing...)

Duane, whats the difference between the P12 and the one you are buying the S12B?

also, are these fan filter things useful?

Frankly i FED UP cleaning sheit every 3 months.

the P12 is a nine blade fan and the S12 is 7 blade.

The S12 also has a ridge on the tip of the fan blade that improves forward air movement and reduces noise even further





The S12B FLX comes with 3 cable options to run the fan at 600, 900 and 1200 rpm depending on the flow and noise level you need.

[HCCA]

also, are these fan filter things useful?

Frankly i FED UP cleaning sheit every 3 months.

If you insist on keeping dat crap case any longer then get filters for the front fans.

When i cleaned out my antec 1200 for sale,all the dust was on the front intake fan filters, no dust on the fans behind dem or the others in the case.

[Virus]

ABA Trading LTD i agree everyone has a preference and if you not even going to do any real world applications it doesn't matter what LGA you use

[M_2NR]

^ a PC builder friend advised you buy them parts? dais not your friend! lol

oh gawrsh boi tweeez... i mean Duane...
ulyuh stop beating d man up na. In any case for his application, he eh hadda upgrade in 10 years again.

the P12 is a nine blade fan and the S12 is 7 blade.

The S12 also has a ridge on the tip of the fan blade that improves forward air movement and reduces noise even further

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The S12B FLX comes with 3 cable options to run the fan at 600, 900 and 1200 rpm depending on the flow and noise level you need.

Thanks Duane. Exactly the details i needed. I feel i will order one for the NAS/mini-pc self!

If you insist on keeping dat crap case any longer then get filters for the front fans.

When i cleaned out my antec 1200 for sale,all the dust was on the front intake fan filters, no dust on the fans behind dem or the others in the case.

ayeeeeeeee stop disrespecting meh case eh.. OARRR. I know is crap but eh ehh!

I feel i will do that though. Any specific brand? or those silverstone's are good... or it doesnt matter the brand?
and let me guess... to clean.. i just wash it out right?
Thanks again HCCA

[HCCA]

^^Those silverstones will do nicely. And yeah is best to wash them out and put out in the sun to dry.

Your case not very bad eh, it have very simple mods you can do to organise cables better.

A note abt the filters though: since they will impede some of the airflow into the case it may be wise to get some higher cfm fans to compensate for the loss in flow.

I mentioned this in the classifieds a while ago when someone was asking for some 120mm fans to buy, they awesome.

http://www.svc.com/y720dcd-25t1-gp.html

[M_2NR]

^^Those silverstones will do nicely. And yeah is best to wash them out and put out in the sun to dry.

Your case not very bad eh, it have very simple mods you can do to organise cables better.

A note abt the filters though: since they will impede some of the airflow into the case it may be wise to get some higher cfm fans to compensate for the loss in flow.

I mentioned this in the classifieds a while ago when someone was asking for some 120mm fans to buy, they awesome.

http://www.svc.com/y720dcd-25t1-gp.html

gonna order 3 filters and one noctua for the the next pc.
Thanks for that yo.

I think i fed up bothering about management yes. Ill buy a new case next time for the next build and a modular PSU for it and just use back the corsair PSU.

I was thinking about that to... I'll check the flow (lame thread on stick way LOL) and see if I'd need to swap them out for those CM's. BTW are they as noisy as the Antec's in these 900's?
The ones in the 900's have a L/M/H but i dont know how much cfm they are pushing.

[jagsingh123]

dear tuners..
any advice would be helpful

What a heavy duty or commercial printer that i would get alot of yield.
It must be selling in Trinidad
The cartridges selling in Trinidad.
The cartridges are cheap
The printer doesnt have to be cheap

A well established computer place in Arima sold me an HP Deskjet 6000 Wireless Printer.
But i now notice it is not what i want.

[Chimera]

lol duane tellin meh d man is nuh meh friend yes

i could actually return the board and processor without loosing any money or much hassle but I don't really need too.

The real reason I don't game on PC is because I couldnt, all my pc could have run was age of empires and the old starcraft, and i rather play games on ps3 anyway
the ONLY game i probably gonna buy and install is the new star craft.

[HCCA]

^^Doh study Duane dude. In a couple months Intel releasing a new socket type and line of cpus as well as AMD have their Bulldozer chips coming out. So his system will be outdated pretty fast

Your system should last a few years. If you wanna get technical u can flash your video card and get more performance like here: http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/ove ... idcard/159

[bushwakka]

well I was trying to get the same answer out of gracen and now out of ABA Trading LTD

but neither of them answered me - I feel there is something I missing as to why people building 1366 machines from scratch right now.

in fact they could go with a i5 2600k for less money and get better performance than a i7 960

am I missing something? Or is it that people just not researching before buying?

dsi....this just like when i was building my 775 setup, quad cores were being pushed so hard at lower clock speeds. The core 2 duos, esp the e8400 was actually the sweet spot for performance since the apps cudnt take advantage of the extra cores on the quad.......butttt ppl still went ahead and bought the quads just to say they had them.......if u ask me, they shud hav just skipped the quads and gone straight to i7 etc