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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby Redress10 » July 26th, 2020, 9:37 am

zoom rader wrote:If PNM ppl don't act now in a few years they will be a minority group , which is good thing.

Indos are already the largest population with the mixed population growing faster. Indo Vene will be the new breed

We will have to call PNM ppl the 30%


Should have had planned parenting and birth control programs in those hot spots years ago

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » July 26th, 2020, 10:39 am

Redress10 wrote:
zoom rader wrote:If PNM ppl don't act now in a few years they will be a minority group , which is good thing.

Indos are already the largest population with the mixed population growing faster. Indo Vene will be the new breed

We will have to call PNM ppl the 30%


Should have had planned parenting and birth control programs in those hot spots years ago
PNM ppl don't like taking instructions

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby The_Honourable » July 26th, 2020, 11:17 am

As stuart young talk, seeing an increase especially on pro-govt cheds xenophobia against the venezuelans.

You can sense from the posts the reasoning is not really covid-19 related (which is used as a front) but some type of jealousy or inferiority complex.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby pugboy » July 26th, 2020, 11:21 am

even Inshan asking ppl to submit locations where they living
can imagine the haters coming out

but illegal is illegal and if they are a threat to our health system something needs to be done

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 11:35 am

Vene registrations happening RIGHT NOW behind the scenes.

What can allyuh do a Vene who has his papers?

N1F

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby nemisis » July 26th, 2020, 11:40 am

Actually know someone involved in the registration process and this is a lie.
MaxPower wrote:Vene registrations happening RIGHT NOW behind the scenes.

What can allyuh do a Vene who has his papers?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 11:46 am

nemisis wrote:Actually know someone involved in the registration process and this is a lie.
MaxPower wrote:Vene registrations happening RIGHT NOW behind the scenes.

What can allyuh do a Vene who has his papers?

N1F


Yeh bro, sure its a lie.

Your special “someone” not involved enough...clearly.

You never hear about people getting their license renew over the weekend? License office clerks who “involved” know about this?

But yeh man, its a lie, we can go with that.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby alfa » July 26th, 2020, 12:12 pm

pugboy wrote:even Inshan asking ppl to submit locations where they living
can imagine the haters coming out

but illegal is illegal and if they are a threat to our health system something needs to be done

Not necessarily haters but Patriots willing to take back their country perhaps? As you said illegal is illegal so if someone see a boat load of aliens coming ashore and you slug one of them and call the authorities after you will be doing your civic duty the way I see it

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby alfa » July 26th, 2020, 12:18 pm

MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Is how Trinis suddenly feel the better than Venezuelans.

Anyways, its only a handful of allyuh that beating up.

Not important, allyuh could only talk on social media.

What you petty Trinis plan to do? Are you planning to act?

Allyuh depending on Stuarty and GG? The same people that support the Venezuelans?

But yeh man, they will do a lil raid here and there, intercept a lil dingy now and then, throw a article in the papers...exactly what they want allyuh to hear.


Max it is Sunday, you should be in the Temple doing a lil Puja and singing some Bajans


Hello Zoom,

Hope you are enjoying your Sunday morning.

I dont really mix up with the indos too much na. I does kinda get a embarrassing feeling around them.

These pundits does appear all descent and proper singing hymn they dont understand or respect. And then they have this bad image on the outside and their children always in some bacchanal and they dont put their phones on silent in the temple with the vybz kartel ring tones.

I mean some of these indos probably have some good in them, but its just based on my countless observations that i dont like to be seen associating with them....maybe when no one is watching but generally no.

On Sundays i actually go by some Chinese friends for white tea....simple people, good people! my people!

Hello Max. Hope you're enjoying your tea. By chance are you Chinese friends the local ones who have been here for decades and helped build Trinidad or the super secretive ones bringing in illegal slaves into the country under the disuse of grocery work who can't even say what they're selling in said groceries?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 12:37 pm

alfa wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Is how Trinis suddenly feel the better than Venezuelans.

Anyways, its only a handful of allyuh that beating up.

Not important, allyuh could only talk on social media.

What you petty Trinis plan to do? Are you planning to act?

Allyuh depending on Stuarty and GG? The same people that support the Venezuelans?

But yeh man, they will do a lil raid here and there, intercept a lil dingy now and then, throw a article in the papers...exactly what they want allyuh to hear.


Max it is Sunday, you should be in the Temple doing a lil Puja and singing some Bajans


Hello Zoom,

Hope you are enjoying your Sunday morning.

I dont really mix up with the indos too much na. I does kinda get a embarrassing feeling around them.

These pundits does appear all descent and proper singing hymn they dont understand or respect. And then they have this bad image on the outside and their children always in some bacchanal and they dont put their phones on silent in the temple with the vybz kartel ring tones.

I mean some of these indos probably have some good in them, but its just based on my countless observations that i dont like to be seen associating with them....maybe when no one is watching but generally no.

On Sundays i actually go by some Chinese friends for white tea....simple people, good people! my people!

Hello Max. Hope you're enjoying your tea. By chance are you Chinese friends the local ones who have been here for decades and helped build Trinidad or the super secretive ones bringing in illegal slaves into the country under the disuse of grocery work who can't even say what they're selling in said groceries?


Hello alfa,

Pleasantries to you my good lad.

Boi they around long time and make very good contributions to society. To be honest i really not sure if they are involved in anything, nowadays you dont know who is who.

But i never got that vibe from them and they make me feel very comfortable. It sure does beat having a senseless convo with the average Trini.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » July 26th, 2020, 12:40 pm

alfa wrote:
MaxPower wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
MaxPower wrote:Is how Trinis suddenly feel the better than Venezuelans.

Anyways, its only a handful of allyuh that beating up.

Not important, allyuh could only talk on social media.

What you petty Trinis plan to do? Are you planning to act?

Allyuh depending on Stuarty and GG? The same people that support the Venezuelans?

But yeh man, they will do a lil raid here and there, intercept a lil dingy now and then, throw a article in the papers...exactly what they want allyuh to hear.


Max it is Sunday, you should be in the Temple doing a lil Puja and singing some Bajans


Hello Zoom,

Hope you are enjoying your Sunday morning.

I dont really mix up with the indos too much na. I does kinda get a embarrassing feeling around them.

These pundits does appear all descent and proper singing hymn they dont understand or respect. And then they have this bad image on the outside and their children always in some bacchanal and they dont put their phones on silent in the temple with the vybz kartel ring tones.

I mean some of these indos probably have some good in them, but its just based on my countless observations that i dont like to be seen associating with them....maybe when no one is watching but generally no.

On Sundays i actually go by some Chinese friends for white tea....simple people, good people! my people!

Hello Max. Hope you're enjoying your tea. By chance are you Chinese friends the local ones who have been here for decades and helped build Trinidad or the super secretive ones bringing in illegal slaves into the country under the disuse of grocery work who can't even say what they're selling in said groceries?
Ah you hit a point .

Chinese do have slaves in TT.

These people sold themselves to work it off . When it's paid off then they are off to the USA to continue working as slaves.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby nemisis » July 26th, 2020, 1:04 pm

So we can see from max comments that he is either directly involved or knows of individuals carrying out illegal vene importation, registrations and hiding. My question is considering this is the most likely route for importation of the virus would you consider shim to be a traitor to his country?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » July 26th, 2020, 1:07 pm

I would consider him to be a thirsty man looking for vene tail and hoping they give some cyat for him defending them

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 1:20 pm

Ranting on social media solves nothing.

Allyuh tried to get rid of the hard working Chinese and failed.

Allyuh tried to get rid of the hard working Syrians and failed.

Now allyuh trying to get rid of the hard working Venezuelans and allyuh will fail.

Its because you petty Trinis have NO ambition which is why the above groups continue to move forward and progress while allyuh remain in the SAME spot doing nothing but move your mouths.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby De Dragon » July 26th, 2020, 1:54 pm

matr1x wrote:I would consider him to be a thirsty man looking for vene tail and hoping they give some cyat for him defending them

Correct, but you have to add lolo because this numbnuts taking anything with his desperate, greasy, uneducated, Mammy-leeching self.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby matr1x » July 26th, 2020, 2:53 pm

The "you trinis" cracking me up.


Max if you lazy, don't think everyone else is.


If you are honest, apply legally. Coming through the back window should mean a 3 canal through the neck

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 9:01 pm

^ this video wasnt last year?

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby alfa » July 26th, 2020, 9:27 pm

MaxPower wrote:^ this video wasnt last year?

I doubt. The Winston Ragoo info he made mention of was also posted by Winston on his FB page today so it's likely recent. Good work to the brother for exposing this though. If more people like him and Inshan who compiling his illegals list bring the issue to the forefront coupled with covid hysteria the govt may be forced to crack down on them to appease the population and secure votes

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby aaron17 » July 26th, 2020, 9:43 pm

MaxPower wrote:^ this video wasnt last year?
Good evening.. masks were not worn last year in tnt.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 9:51 pm

aaron17 wrote:
MaxPower wrote:^ this video wasnt last year?
Good evening.. masks were not worn last year in tnt.


Hello aaron17,

Thank you

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 26th, 2020, 9:52 pm

alfa wrote:
MaxPower wrote:^ this video wasnt last year?

I doubt. The Winston Ragoo info he made mention of was also posted by Winston on his FB page today so it's likely recent. Good work to the brother for exposing this though. If more people like him and Inshan who compiling his illegals list bring the issue to the forefront coupled with covid hysteria the govt may be forced to crack down on them to appease the population and secure votes


Or ok

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby screwbash » July 27th, 2020, 5:11 am

time to institute vigilante justice. civilians need to start holding the vene and dropping them in gulf of paria or the closest police station.

gg and sy say they want to hold lanlords dat renting to illegal immigtants and they go send back the vene an whatever for YEARS dem spanish wuking in villa, richgold, dadsdan, caribbean isle ,copa, limo an musbe others and nuttin, in d papers they offering sex, massage parlours have vene in carmody street and other places in the papers and police not holding dem. maxipad right, nutting was done for the guyaneese, chineese and indian from india so nutting go be dun as usual.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby daxt0r » July 27th, 2020, 6:53 am

some of meh soldiers did that, down to d man in d group geh wood from d team, d police lock dem up as apparently dese illegal immigrants have rights.
Now dey in remand and venez free :(

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby MaxPower » July 27th, 2020, 7:36 am

daxt0r wrote:some of meh soldiers did that, down to d man in d group geh wood from d team, d police lock dem up as apparently dese illegal immigrants have rights.
Now dey in remand and venez free :(


Hello daxt0r,

The Venezuelans have immense support from the Govt and general public.

They are here to stay.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 7:43 am

screwbash wrote:time to institute vigilante justice. civilians need to start holding the vene and dropping them in gulf of paria or the closest police station.

gg and sy say they want to hold lanlords dat renting to illegal immigtants and they go send back the vene an whatever for YEARS dem spanish wuking in villa, richgold, dadsdan, caribbean isle ,copa, limo an musbe others and nuttin, in d papers they offering sex, massage parlours have vene in carmody street and other places in the papers and police not holding dem. maxipad right, nutting was done for the guyaneese, chineese and indian from india so nutting go be dun as usual.


In the UK landlords have to check the immigration status before they rent you, employers and landlords have gotten charged up to 10000 pounds per illegal immigrant.

Maybe new laws for illegal immigrants renting will need to be put in place, faris can make some money.

https://www.gov.uk/penalties-for-employ ... al-workers

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Employing people
Recruiting and hiring
Penalties for employing illegal workers
You can be sent to jail for 5 years and pay an unlimited fine if you’re found guilty of employing someone who you knew or had ‘reasonable cause to believe’ did not have the right to work in the UK.
This includes, for example, if you had any reason to believe that:
they did not have leave (permission) to enter or remain in the UK
their leave had expired
they were not allowed to do certain types of work
their papers were incorrect or false

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby adnj » July 27th, 2020, 8:01 am

zoom rader wrote:
screwbash wrote:time to institute vigilante justice. civilians need to start holding the vene and dropping them in gulf of paria or the closest police station.

gg and sy say they want to hold lanlords dat renting to illegal immigtants and they go send back the vene an whatever for YEARS dem spanish wuking in villa, richgold, dadsdan, caribbean isle ,copa, limo an musbe others and nuttin, in d papers they offering sex, massage parlours have vene in carmody street and other places in the papers and police not holding dem. maxipad right, nutting was done for the guyaneese, chineese and indian from india so nutting go be dun as usual.


In the UK landlords have to check the immigration status before they rent you, employers and landlords have gotten charged up to 10000 pounds per illegal immigrant.

Maybe new laws for illegal immigrants renting will need to be put in place, faris can make some money.

https://www.gov.uk/penalties-for-employ ... al-workers

ome
Employing people
Recruiting and hiring
Penalties for employing illegal workers
You can be sent to jail for 5 years and pay an unlimited fine if you’re found guilty of employing someone who you knew or had ‘reasonable cause to believe’ did not have the right to work in the UK.
This includes, for example, if you had any reason to believe that:
they did not have leave (permission) to enter or remain in the UK
their leave had expired
they were not allowed to do certain types of work
their papers were incorrect or false
Trinidad's population growth rate has been on the decline for more than twenty years. Conversely, the mean age of the population is also increasing. Current estimates are that the population will shrink by nearly 100,000 people by 2050.

From a macro-economic perspective, it is advantageous to allow or increase immigration. A larger population will increase consumption and drive up productivity.

Immigrants will likely settle in areas with the most affordable housing that is closest to employment causing property values and rents in those areas to stabilize or increase with heightened demand.

The stress from immigrant populations will be felt most acutely by easily displaced locals -- those of marginal education and/or limited skillsets.

If you have it hard now, you will most likely see no benefit from increased competition.

Because of the expected accelerated decreases to developed countries' population growth rates worldwide, there is also likely to be a shift in documented immigration laws. Many countries are expected to start immigration recruiting soon so that they are more likely to attract migrants when absolutely necessary.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 8:52 am

adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
screwbash wrote:time to institute vigilante justice. civilians need to start holding the vene and dropping them in gulf of paria or the closest police station.

gg and sy say they want to hold lanlords dat renting to illegal immigtants and they go send back the vene an whatever for YEARS dem spanish wuking in villa, richgold, dadsdan, caribbean isle ,copa, limo an musbe others and nuttin, in d papers they offering sex, massage parlours have vene in carmody street and other places in the papers and police not holding dem. maxipad right, nutting was done for the guyaneese, chineese and indian from india so nutting go be dun as usual.


In the UK landlords have to check the immigration status before they rent you, employers and landlords have gotten charged up to 10000 pounds per illegal immigrant.

Maybe new laws for illegal immigrants renting will need to be put in place, faris can make some money.

https://www.gov.uk/penalties-for-employ ... al-workers

ome
Employing people
Recruiting and hiring
Penalties for employing illegal workers
You can be sent to jail for 5 years and pay an unlimited fine if you’re found guilty of employing someone who you knew or had ‘reasonable cause to believe’ did not have the right to work in the UK.
This includes, for example, if you had any reason to believe that:
they did not have leave (permission) to enter or remain in the UK
their leave had expired
they were not allowed to do certain types of work
their papers were incorrect or false
Trinidad's population growth rate has been on the decline for more than twenty years. Conversely, the mean age of the population is also increasing. Current estimates are that the population will shrink by nearly 100,000 people by 2050.

From a macro-economic perspective, it is advantageous to allow or increase immigration. A larger population will increase consumption and drive up productivity.

Immigrants will likely settle in areas with the most affordable housing that is closest to employment causing property values and rents in those areas to stabilize or increase with heightened demand.

The stress from immigrant populations will be felt most acutely by easily displaced locals -- those of marginal education and/or limited skillsets.

If you have it hard now, you will most likely see no benefit from increased competition.

Because of the expected accelerated decreases to developed countries' population growth rates worldwide, there is also likely to be a shift in documented immigration laws. Many countries are expected to start immigration recruiting soon so that they are more likely to attract migrants when absolutely necessary.


We live in immigrat nation and I dont have a problem with legal immigation .

Illegals should not be allowed in cause they have already shown that they are dishonest and this will lead to bigger issuse later on. They will most likely instill these values on to their offsprings.

Simple case are those folk that came here in 1950s and 60s that live in Beetham and laventille . today their offsprings are TT problems involve is hard crime. Laws was not enfored to keep these ppl out .

Here we are in 2020 and we still have the same problem, what will be the situaton in the next 15 years when the Vene offspring start dealing in hard crime, they have already started .

Its is far much easier to get in here illegal than legal. Have you ever seen how to apply for legal status in TT as non national . Its long and you need 5 cxc and above with a trail of paperwork, police record ect.

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby nemisis » July 27th, 2020, 8:57 am

5 cxc is nothing though

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Re: Should Venezuelan refugees be allowed to live in T&T?

Postby zoom rader » July 27th, 2020, 9:02 am

nemisis wrote:5 cxc is nothing though


Maybe so , but I don't believe Vene nationals are up to that standards. Most seem to be of lower end status

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