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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Swisha » December 3rd, 2011, 4:34 pm

like them fellas taking target practice today in preparation for next sat. :lol:

Barcelona 5 - 0 Levante, final score.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby <=xjemler=> » December 4th, 2011, 9:11 am

Just had to share this. :D


The Messi myth
Talk of Messi's genius is flawed
December 4, 2011

By Alexander Netherton

Ever since Barcelona and Pep Guardiola invented football in 2009, the praise has come full and fast, a blue and purple tsunami of love for unparalleled genius.

Lionel Messi: Selfish?
Lionel Messi: A selfish egotist?

And it's fair enough. Xavi is the best midfielder of his day, Andres Iniesta the most elegant, able to pass, trick and score with effortless beauty. The most extensive gush is reserved for Lionel Messi. A genius, apparently, but is he actually any good?

People constantly praise the ability he has in that special left foot. Yeah, that special left foot, but not both his feet. The man is half a genius. He plays with his left foot wherever possible because he is a coward. If he were a true genius he would be able to pass as well, shoot as well, or feint as well with his right foot as he could his left. His cowardice prevents him from using his right and embracing his weaknesses. Look at a true great: Michael Owen. Say what you want about him, but he's never been afraid to shank a weak shot ten yards wide with his left foot.

Latterday received wisdom is that Messi's only real competitor for the title of the greatest player ever is his Argentine counterpart, Diego Maradona. Tish and fipsy, Maradona is streets ahead, both on and off the pitch, the combination sealing his superiority by a clear distance. Maradona dragged an average Napoli side to a legendary title win, their first, second and only Scudetti. Napoli were not a bad side by any stretch of the imagination, but they were no Barcelona. Without Messi, Barcelona have Pedro, Villa, Busquets, Mascherano, Xavi, Iniesta and Pique to get by on. They'd in all likelihood still win the league or run Real Madrid close. It wouldn't be far fetched to say that without Messi, Barcelona would still have the strongest squad in the world.

Not Maradona, though. Take Maradona out of the Napoli side and there would be no chance for that team to win the league. That's why Maradona shows up Lionel Messi as a footballing charlatan.

But that's not the end of it. Maradona is reported to have spent much of his time at Napoli abusing cocaine. Now, if Maradona could play so exceptionally, defining a decade, all while suffering the side effects of drug abuse, then surely without the handicap he would have been even better.

The trouble didn't end there. He allegedly cultivated a close relationship with the Neapolitan mafia, he missed so much training he was fined $70,000 - in those days, that's not far off the scale of fine handed to Carlos Tevez. He even fathered an illegitimate son. Did that stop him? No. Napoli's championships bookended two runners up placings, a UEFA Cup and a season as top scorer. He even found time to vaccinate Milan with a twenty-five yard header. He was always able to treat his personal affairs as nothing but background music. Clean-living Messi, on the other hand, is at his peak, totally focused on football.

Maradona's most telling showing up of the Messi praise is his performance in international games. In 1986, Maradona scored five goals, made five assists while captaining his side to a World Cup.

How did Lionel Messi get on in 1986? He didn't even play. But when he did play, in 2010, Argentina were a shambles. Granted, their preparations had included calling up 36-year-old Martin Palermo. They were managed by a loose cannon on an extended comedown (Maradona again), but they still had Tevez, Aguero, Demichelis and the mighty Jonas Gutierrez at right-back, and got nowhere. The blame must lie solely with Lionel Messi. He's just not good enough to inspire.

Messi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona
GettyImagesMessi is dwarfed by the presence of Maradona

Lionel Messi: is he that good? Just look at his scoring records. Last season he scored 53 goals in 55 appearances. Undeniably impressive but understandable given the hard yards he makes everyone run for him at Barcelona. This year, he's scored 26 goals in just 22 games. I know what you're thinking, it's an improvement. But wait a moment, isn't this instructive of his massive selfishness? The traits of egotism reflected in the fact that only he believes he is worthy of scoring?

In the past, Samuel Eto'o and Ronaldinho have been cast out for their problems with authority, but Lionel Messi has risen above that. He has decided that he is Barcelona's authority. Surely the team can't stay together at this rate, and it will be Messi to blame.

Egotistical, one-footed and definitely not as talented as Maradona. Those self-important bloggers have got this one wrong. Lastly, how many good corners can you remember Messi taking? Exactly.

Also, he's no use in a wall.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby kevcam » December 4th, 2011, 10:23 am

Selfish?

You do know who topped the league in assists last season? Messi.

You know where Xavi finished? Tied for 11th place. Iniesta nowhere in the top 20.

You know where Messi is this season wrt assists? Tied for second place.

Where all those assists going to? Himself?

The majority of high skilled footballers many times favor one foot. Even Maradona was still majorly left footed. The comparison to this is Michael Owen. Oh please. Can Owen even be mentioned in the same league as Maradona? Owen function is to score goals (does it very good) plain and simple. Not to run back in midfield and create plays, not to provide assists, just to score goals.

Hard to compare Maradona with Napoli and Messi with Barcelona unless Messi leaves Barcelona and goes to another side. That does not mean that he cannot lead another side to championships. Who knows what could happen. I would not even bother to talk about Maradona using coke in Napoli being a handicap for him.

Argentina were a shambles in 2010 WC? True they lost bad to Germany in ONE game but prior to that they did very good in the other matches. Messi did not score but he did well in the WC with his teammates scoring off rebounds off his shots and assists.


This year, he's scored 26 goals in just 22 games. I know what you're thinking, it's an improvement. But wait a moment, isn't this instructive of his massive selfishness? The traits of egotism reflected in the fact that only he believes he is worthy of scoring?


Yet he continues providing assists to his teammates by being second in the league at present. Has the writer observed the improvement in quality of Messi's passing game over the last couple years? I feel the writer here getting mixed up with somebody like C. Ronaldo. (Although to be fair to C. Ronaldo he is playing less selfish this year.)

The only part I agree with is that Messi still needs to prove himself being better than Maradona by winning the WC but the man has not finished playing football as yet.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby De Dragon » December 4th, 2011, 11:22 am

The only thing true on dat kantish list is that Messi is useless in a wall.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Morpheus » December 4th, 2011, 3:02 pm

^^^Agreed

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 4th, 2011, 3:39 pm

1 more week fellas!!

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby De Dragon » December 4th, 2011, 4:21 pm

Morpheus wrote:^^^Agreed

And he played parts in at least two of their goals against Levante on Staurday, not to mention scoring on of his own.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Morpheus » December 4th, 2011, 6:17 pm

^^And in the WC he was just blight. Played well. Had shots on goal. Just unlucky not to score.

That "journalist" needs the have that penis surgically removed from his a$$

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby mero » December 4th, 2011, 7:04 pm

That article seemed like the author was trolling to me, I didn't take anything seriously from it

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Morpheus » December 4th, 2011, 7:51 pm

mero wrote:That article seemed like the author was trolling to me, I didn't take anything seriously from it


^^Even Real Madrid fans and neutrals will tell you he talking a pack ah crap :lol:

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Swisha » December 5th, 2011, 7:14 pm

Leo Messi and Xavi Hernández finalists for Ballon d’Or again

For the fifth year on the run there will be a Barça player on the podium for the FIFA Ballon d’Or, as Messi and Xavi are again amongst the top three candidates

Cristiano Ronaldo is the third finalist.

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The three finalists for the FIFA Ballon d'Or 2011 were announced at an event in Paris this afernoon.

Winner to be named on January 9th

The award ceremony will be held on January 9th in Zurich (Switzerland), when the name of the winner will be revealed. If Messi wins the award again he will equal the feats of players such as Cruyff, Platini and Van Basten, who all won the Ballon d'Or three times. Only Platini managed it over three consecutive seasons. Should Xavi be declared the winner, it will be the first time the Catalan midfielder has won the award.

Eight Barça players make 23 man shortlist

There were originally eight Barça players nominated in the shortlist of 23 for the award:Abidal, Alves, Cesc, Iniesta, Messi, Piqué, Villa and Xavi.

Top three spots filled by Barça players in 2010

Last season, all three top spots were filled by Barça players, something only Saachi's Milan team had previously achieved. Leo Messi won the award, Andrés Iniesta was second and Xavi Hernández third.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 5th, 2011, 8:31 pm

^ added to that
Pep is in the top 3 as well

clean sweep, for both of them!!

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby mero » December 6th, 2011, 10:19 am

and promos come pouring in. 4 more days!



2:27 raised my pause, that was epic :mrgreen:

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby rfari » December 6th, 2011, 10:32 am

2 things: f*q barca & hol dis. good ole school breakup

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 6th, 2011, 4:00 pm

anyone hav a link for the game?
would love to see how this team plays

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby cincuanta » December 6th, 2011, 5:36 pm

X_Factor wrote:anyone hav a link for the game?
would love to see how this team plays

Dude the kids are doing all right ! :mrgreen: And on the other side Valencia living up to their reputation as big game chokers...as predicted ( more money in my pocket eh)

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby kevcam » December 6th, 2011, 5:47 pm

X_Factor wrote:anyone hav a link for the game?
would love to see how this team plays


Hard Luck dey I now see this post.

http://www.firstrowsports.tv/

Bookmark this link you can't go wrong.

The youngsters did well today. They controlled the ball played a nice passing game (typical Barca style) and they scored some goals too.

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 6th, 2011, 6:12 pm

i didnt see the game, but nice to see we can still win while all the regulars got much needed rest...
also glad pedro scored 2 goals and will give him some confidence for saturday

time to go silence that Bernabeu crowd!

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby equal2zero » December 6th, 2011, 6:53 pm

mero wrote:That article seemed like the author was trolling to me, I didn't take anything seriously from it

exactly...was clear to me when i read it that it was intended to be satirical with the writer attempting to parody popular opinion in football...he usually expresses an anti-barca sentiment...his gripe probably being the arrogance of their supporters, which i think is justified in the fact that most of them failed to pick up on the sarcasm in the article

not the best sarcasm i've read but i thought the article was witty and well written

while they may be the best at it currently, barcelona did not invent football nor is messi a god amongst men

anyhow looking forward to the classico...should be entertaining as usual

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 6th, 2011, 8:27 pm

replay on now fellas
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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Swisha » December 7th, 2011, 12:31 pm

:shock: noice!


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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby mero » December 10th, 2011, 10:09 am

bump for Clasico in a few hours!!!! :mrgreen:

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Mark! » December 10th, 2011, 10:30 am

what local time this fight starting?

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby mero » December 10th, 2011, 10:38 am

lol 5 meng, hope its clean

on the bright side the Spanish team players seem to be getting along so hopefully that might count for something :|

sure Mourinho Potion done cure for Marcelo and Pepe already

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Morpheus » December 10th, 2011, 11:09 am

sure Mourinho Potion done cure for Marcelo and Pepe already


^^Yuh know!!

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 10th, 2011, 4:28 pm

30 mins again fellas
i want ah 3-0 win for us!!!

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Morpheus » December 10th, 2011, 4:44 pm

I good with any margin of victory. Real real ballin'

I just want it to be a good flowing match. Marcelo and Pepe better take they chill pill. Imagine them putting Ramos in the shade for "bound to get a yellow card"...........

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby RASC » December 10th, 2011, 4:50 pm

Keep Calm and ¡Força Barça!

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby Morpheus » December 10th, 2011, 5:02 pm

LoL. Goal yes......smh

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Re: El Barca es mes que un club!

Postby X_Factor » December 10th, 2011, 5:03 pm

i doh fackin believe that!!!

but i rather it happen now we have the entire game to regroup

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