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Who do you believe will win General Elections 2025?

Poll ended at April 28th, 2025, 9:17 pm

People's National Movement (PNM)
23
48%
United National Congress (UNC) + Coalition of Interests (PEP, COP, OWTU, LOVE)
21
44%
Patriotic Front (PF)
2
4%
Tie/Deadlock
2
4%
 
Total votes: 48

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 2:12 am

They wasted 17 billion dollars that could have been used to pay workers their back pay and benefits. I want to inform PSA and the rest of the unions that this is where the PNM wasted the money, rather than paying the workers;

Paintings - $3 Million.
Benz - $2 Million (For PM).
Trump Phone Call - $16 Million.
Tarouba Stadium $210 Million.
Buccoo Estate - $174 Million.
Toilet Paper Factory Loan - $30 Million.
TSTT's bailout of Massy Communications $255 Million.
Ernst and Young (Audits) - $20 Million.
PWC (Audits) - $10.5 Million.
San Fernando Waterfront destruction - $500 Million.
Fake Oil - $100 Million.
Cabo Star Mobilization Fee - $13 Million.
Ocean Flower 2 Mobilization Fee - $20 Million.
President’s House Restoration $89 Million.
$1.2 Billion for four boats (Austal / Incat).
Prime Minister's Residence $70M (refurbishment, Tobago).
THE family of Faris Al-Rawi $250 million in rent.
Stuart Young's Brother Finance deals with the State (Angus Young, NCB Global Finance) $4 billion.
Carifesta 2019 $28 million.
A $120 million loss at the Trestrail HDC development.
$8.9 million ramp in Tobago to accommodate the Jean de la Valette.
$45 million to harass Moonilal.
Mosquito Creek collapses 50 million.
$55 million on the unused DPP office.
$3 billion missing Auditor General’s report.
NGC wasted $400 million on Train One.
$120 million owed by Niquan for gas.
$140 million on galleons passage.
$100 million to lease the Jean de Vallette ferry.
$120 million Balisier house.
Five billion in improperly awarded contracts as flagged by the procurement regulator.
Over 1 billion for eat ah food lawyers.
And much more.
This amounts to $ 17 billion stolen, wasted, and deposited into bulging balisier bank books—$ 17 billion!!

This is where the money to pay workers backpay and benefits went!

It didn’t go towards anything that benefitted the average man or woman on the street. That could have covered the back pay for all the workers, with billions left over. This PNM government, after spending $530 billion, over half a trillion dollars, is now asking me where I eeswill get the money!!!

Kamla Persad Bissessar

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 2:13 am

Trump phone call $16 million for two minutes Anybody remember that and trump never even step foot in this banana Republic what did it lead to?

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 2:53 am

No 300 million in rent to faris money will be saved says kamla.....funny enough that's not seen as a conflict of interest but working as a government employee and applying for a tender under your personal company is a conflict of interest. That's weird

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Postby The_Honourable » April 6th, 2025, 3:00 am

Redress10 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:
Redress10 wrote:Tunapuna

Alexander isn't being well received. People have a serious distrust of him to the point of even clowning him. Basically saying how he can solve crime now as a "civilian"


Was he ever in a position to "solve" crime?


Well the average person aint seeing it that way. Not to mention he got up to senior sup I believe. Plus add to that the rumours and talk of him being involved etc. Unc positioning him as a crimefighter may actually work against them.

I feel PNM bury him in Tunapuna after that meeting there.


"Puna" over the past few years has become a crime hot spot under Esmond Forde's watch. While some have a distrust, others see Alexander as an asset in the fight against crime. With Tunapuna's crime situation, Alexander has a fighting chance.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/11/21/terror ... ngs-clash/

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/ ... 4d7eb.html

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/gangs-t ... 2263c28224

https://www.sunshinetodaytt.com/sunshin ... -concerns/

https://newsday.co.tt/2024/02/25/gang-v ... -tunapuna/

https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/cri ... 21468.html

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Postby j.o.e » April 6th, 2025, 4:37 am

pugboy wrote:i used to think better to get rid of privy council but after all the foolishness last 10yrs and seeing how a govt could get away with nonsense
it is better to keep the privy council
the ccj is composed of judges from the islands who are products of same possibly corrupt systems

hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Resuming hangings in T&T is something the United National Congress can once again consider if it is elected to office. And under a UNC coalition government, a new commissioner of police will be appointed.

For more: https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/kamla-u ... .973aa43f7

Correct me if I'm wrong isn't hanging still a part of our laws it just isn't enforced by the present government by extension our judiciary


UNC wants to restart hangings but wants to hold on to the privy council instead of shifting to CCJ #fullydunce
We are too corrupt of a society to be under the CCJ....how many judgments have we seen overturned due to the privy council? It's the only unbiased party here and untouched politically. No politician can make a call or shoot a message to a lord of the court to have their way.


Yall know the CCJ doesn’t only have Caribbean judges right ? Also most times privy council overturns something’s it’s in technicality.

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 7:16 am

j.o.e wrote:
pugboy wrote:i used to think better to get rid of privy council but after all the foolishness last 10yrs and seeing how a govt could get away with nonsense
it is better to keep the privy council
the ccj is composed of judges from the islands who are products of same possibly corrupt systems

hover11 wrote:
j.o.e wrote:
hover11 wrote:Resuming hangings in T&T is something the United National Congress can once again consider if it is elected to office. And under a UNC coalition government, a new commissioner of police will be appointed.

For more: https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/kamla-u ... .973aa43f7

Correct me if I'm wrong isn't hanging still a part of our laws it just isn't enforced by the present government by extension our judiciary


UNC wants to restart hangings but wants to hold on to the privy council instead of shifting to CCJ #fullydunce
We are too corrupt of a society to be under the CCJ....how many judgments have we seen overturned due to the privy council? It's the only unbiased party here and untouched politically. No politician can make a call or shoot a message to a lord of the court to have their way.


Yall know the CCJ doesn’t only have Caribbean judges right ? Also most times privy council overturns something’s it’s in technicality.
But honourable, the political interference or influence would still be an issue

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Postby paid_influencer » April 6th, 2025, 7:32 am

Stuwatee's crime plan is a complete joke though.

The MoNS spent the last few years explaining why it is not his job to have a crime plan.

I repeat - the PNM did not have a crime plan for the past 5 years because they said it was not the Minister's responsibility to have a crime plan.

Now 3 weeks before election, Stuwatee announces a crime plan.

The plan involves appointing a National Security Advisor, since apparently it is not the Minister's job to have a crime plan. This would be a massive joke if it wasn't potentially me or you getting kill out in the streets from the rampant crime.
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Postby Dizzy28 » April 6th, 2025, 7:41 am

hover11 wrote:They wasted 17 billion dollars that could have been used to pay workers their back pay and benefits. I want to inform PSA and the rest of the unions that this is where the PNM wasted the money, rather than paying the workers;

Paintings - $3 Million.
Benz - $2 Million (For PM).
Trump Phone Call - $16 Million.
Tarouba Stadium $210 Million.
Buccoo Estate - $174 Million.
Toilet Paper Factory Loan - $30 Million.
TSTT's bailout of Massy Communications $255 Million.
Ernst and Young (Audits) - $20 Million.
PWC (Audits) - $10.5 Million.
San Fernando Waterfront destruction - $500 Million.
Fake Oil - $100 Million.
Cabo Star Mobilization Fee - $13 Million.
Ocean Flower 2 Mobilization Fee - $20 Million.
President’s House Restoration $89 Million.
$1.2 Billion for four boats (Austal / Incat).
Prime Minister's Residence $70M (refurbishment, Tobago).
THE family of Faris Al-Rawi $250 million in rent.
Stuart Young's Brother Finance deals with the State (Angus Young, NCB Global Finance) $4 billion.
Carifesta 2019 $28 million.
A $120 million loss at the Trestrail HDC development.
$8.9 million ramp in Tobago to accommodate the Jean de la Valette.
$45 million to harass Moonilal.
Mosquito Creek collapses 50 million.
$55 million on the unused DPP office.
$3 billion missing Auditor General’s report.
NGC wasted $400 million on Train One.
$120 million owed by Niquan for gas.
$140 million on galleons passage.
$100 million to lease the Jean de Vallette ferry.
$120 million Balisier house.
Five billion in improperly awarded contracts as flagged by the procurement regulator.
Over 1 billion for eat ah food lawyers.
And much more.
This amounts to $ 17 billion stolen, wasted, and deposited into bulging balisier bank books—$ 17 billion!!

This is where the money to pay workers backpay and benefits went!

It didn’t go towards anything that benefitted the average man or woman on the street. That could have covered the back pay for all the workers, with billions left over. This PNM government, after spending $530 billion, over half a trillion dollars, is now asking me where I eeswill get the money!!!

Kamla Persad Bissessar
That list is sheit. The figure also sheit.
Does Trinidad have wastage .....yes. but it's not in all of the items listed there. Also Kamla and them would spend on and did so before on some of the same items regardless such as high legal fees, Tobago ferry rental and nonsensical rent.

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 7:41 am

For ten years this government accomplished nothing ,they don't have anything to campaign on , but lies cry and mamaguy and the funny thing is I'm sure , before the election is over , they'll have more tricks up their sleeves ,right now they desperate, and they'll use any means necessary , to confuse trinidadians , so I urge citizens , don't believe a word ,the Stuart young's administration say , they have nothing New to better your lives ,if didn't do it in the last ten years ,it will never happen.

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Postby paid_influencer » April 6th, 2025, 7:43 am

hover11 wrote:For ten this government accomplished nothing ,they don't have anything to campaign on , but lies cry and mamaguy and the funny thing is I'm sure , before the election is over , they'll have more tricks up their sleeves ,right now they desperate, and they'll use any means necessary , to confuse trinidadians , so I urge citizens , don't believe a word ,the Stuart young's administration say , they have nothing New to better your lives ,if didn't do it in the last ten years ,it will never happen.


exactly. this nepo-baby come up with some last minute ideas on a crime plan after 10 years of failure and expect we to take it seriously. people should be booing him in the streets now.

And I donno if allyuh notice this, plenty hecklers in the PNM meetings these days. This nepo-baby have nothing that the people want. he going to be thrown out or he sinks the entire party with him

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Postby K74T » April 6th, 2025, 8:32 am

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The United National Congress shared a release from the TT Fire Service claiming its Centre of Excellence rally last night drew such large crowds that it exceeded the venue’s capacity, but it was not an authentic document.

For more: https://www.cnc3.co.tt/unc-shares-fake- ... etes-post/

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 8:38 am

Crowds don't win elections regardless....what matters is at the end of April 28th.PNM crowds have councillors, family members, cooperation workers, CEPEP/URP workers and same faces over and over .
Ask eliteauto how much maxis the party paid for in the last week to ensure the halls are filled just to show crowd .

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 8:50 am

Still waiting on the nationwide free wifi they promise in the last campaign .....
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Postby mero » April 6th, 2025, 8:55 am

K74T wrote:
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The United National Congress shared a release from the TT Fire Service claiming its Centre of Excellence rally last night drew such large crowds that it exceeded the venue’s capacity, but it was not an authentic document.

For more: https://www.cnc3.co.tt/unc-shares-fake- ... etes-post/
Smh. Wasn't this posted from the official UNC page?

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Postby sMASH » April 6th, 2025, 9:41 am

PNM had $600B and 10 years, what did they do?

No much cause they had to settle wage negotiations.
Wait, thst was kamala

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Postby alfa » April 6th, 2025, 9:59 am

hover11 wrote:Still waiting on the nationwide free wifi they promise in the last campaign .....FB_IMG_1743943816936.jpg

I could understand someone becoming disenchanted with the party they support. I could respect them if they go on to run as an independent or drop out all together like Dookeran did. But to leave one party and go the one you were going up against all the years as if they suddenly became the opposite of what your former party was accusing them of previously, it simply reeks of having nothing to do with country and all about self.
And this goes for PNM jumping to UNC as well, before the mites come after me

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 10:15 am

sMASH wrote:PNM had $600B and 10 years, what did they do?

No much cause they had to settle wage negotiations.
Wait, thst was kamala
To tell you how they like to lie if kamla settled the negotiations and pnm didn't want to pay and hold back the money to do things why they didn't do what they currently doing to NIB and port workers. Throw all matters in the industrial court to save time no they didn't.

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 10:19 am

alfa wrote:
hover11 wrote:Still waiting on the nationwide free wifi they promise in the last campaign .....FB_IMG_1743943816936.jpg

I could understand someone becoming disenchanted with the party they support. I could respect them if they go on to run as an independent or drop out all together like Dookeran did. But to leave one party and go the one you were going up against all the years as if they suddenly became the opposite of what your former party was accusing them of previously, it simply reeks of having nothing to do with country and all about self.
And this goes for PNM jumping to UNC as well, before the mites come after me
Lalla is an opportunitist.....nothing more meets the eye

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Postby mero » April 6th, 2025, 10:26 am

That's a double edge sword. There are people who genuinely are limited by their party and resources to fulfill their role to the public and are mistreated, especially if they were great in their area.

Nothing wrong sending your resume to the competitor and joining them if they treat you better. Going on the podium to bash them is another thing but nun technically wrong bad talking your last employer who treated u bad.

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Postby sMASH » April 6th, 2025, 10:59 am



https://www.facebook.com/randy.mattadee ... tid=9drbnH


When peoole rock back and watch , they see the Same ting i saying.
Pnm supporters vote tribe.. They seeing the problems and feeling it, but they can't move out.

Once u sit and think , u will leave out pnm.

Pnm prolly could win next, but not because they better. Is only cause they voting base dumb as nails and just as strong.

It will take a few elections for the older heads to die out and more thinking people to become the majority.

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 11:00 am

Bad talking your employer with your present one just shows you willing to disrespect your previous boss to make yourself look "good" i know that if Lalla disagrees on something with PNM, this pattern would repeat. Nobody minds disagreement, everyone has been wrong at least once.Disrespect and insolence is one thing. Anyway what do they say about rolling stones again?

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Postby Redress10 » April 6th, 2025, 11:17 am

hover11 wrote:Bad talking your employer with your present one just shows you willing to disrespect your previous boss to make yourself look "good" i know that if Lalla disagrees on something with PNM, this pattern would repeat. Nobody minds disagreement, everyone has been wrong at least once.Disrespect and insolence is one thing. Anyway what do they say about rolling stones again?


This is what some of you all are not getting. The people flocking to the PNM are not grassroots people. They are the educated and the middle class people etc. Larry Lalla is just another one. When you go to the UNC rally and check out the crowd, unc crowd looking like a rent a crowd now.

Unc have more afros in it than the PNM now. The PNM is now attracting the knife and fork injun etc. The PNM has never been a grassroots party and has always attracted a wide cross section of people.

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Postby The_Honourable » April 6th, 2025, 11:37 am

hover11 wrote:
alfa wrote:
hover11 wrote:Still waiting on the nationwide free wifi they promise in the last campaign .....FB_IMG_1743943816936.jpg

I could understand someone becoming disenchanted with the party they support. I could respect them if they go on to run as an independent or drop out all together like Dookeran did. But to leave one party and go the one you were going up against all the years as if they suddenly became the opposite of what your former party was accusing them of previously, it simply reeks of having nothing to do with country and all about self.
And this goes for PNM jumping to UNC as well, before the mites come after me
Lalla is an opportunitist.....nothing more meets the eye


Exactly, i'm not even mad at him doing so but the long BS excuse he gave exposed him more as an opportunist.

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Postby pugboy » April 6th, 2025, 12:02 pm

so they saying they are kamala plans to devalue to 15-1
is this a written plan they got sight of or plain ol talk?

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Postby The_Honourable » April 6th, 2025, 12:24 pm

pugboy wrote:so they saying they are kamala plans to devalue to 15-1
is this a written plan they got sight of or plain ol talk?


Just old talk.

Within the pnm camp, for years they are saying "dem syrian and dem" hoarding US and "one setta indian" have barrels of US buried in dey back yard waiting for the US dollar to devalue so they can "make money off black ppl."

Stuart and the election machinery just playing into it.

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 12:41 pm

The_Honourable wrote:
pugboy wrote:so they saying they are kamala plans to devalue to 15-1
is this a written plan they got sight of or plain ol talk?


Just old talk.

Within the pnm camp, for years they are saying "dem syrian and dem" hoarding US and "one setta indian" have barrels of US buried in dey back yard waiting for the US dollar to devalue so they can "make money off black ppl."

Stuart and the election machinery just playing into it.
Funny how most of the hardship that occurred on citizens was due to the PNM i educated someone today when she said PNM saving us from the IMF. It was due to the PNM actions or choices that the NAR was forced to head to the IMF. Ppl quickly forget but that's probably part of the brainwashing process

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 12:46 pm

Food Card or 10% increase ?
Pnm supporters feel free to choose as well.

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Postby alfa » April 6th, 2025, 12:52 pm

Never underestimate the power of a food card and a juzzy

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Postby hover11 » April 6th, 2025, 12:53 pm

The man who earns a base salary of 87k per MONTH plus perks complaining about $500 in groceries.....ease me the fk up PLEASE

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Postby bluefete » April 6th, 2025, 1:39 pm

Redress10 wrote:
sMASH wrote:My social media feeds looking like a strong unc win.
No pollsters put out predictions ?

This one difficult to call. It too much in.the center


Which pnm marginal UNC gonna flip?


Aranjuez/St.Joseph might be very tight. Terrence is not very popular right now and there are many alternative choices available for voters.

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