The LGBTQ/Pride Debate Take 2

[redmanjp]

gays/trans against 'Pride'

[bluefete]

^^ getting more of them speaking out - especially against targetting children.

[redmanjp]

^^ getting more of them speaking out - especially against targetting children.

the activists so sick they will go after even members of their own community who speak out

[bluefete]

^^ getting more of them speaking out - especially against targetting children.

the activists so sick they will go after even members of their own community who speak out

Correct.

Meanwhile

[bluefete]

These "men" must be so proud that they are beating the women in all these sports.

Trans woman cyclist wins North Carolina race by crossing finish line FIVE MINUTES ahead of runner-up, who said her 'power is not comparable': Was filmed shoving rival at previous race

'The muscular advantage enjoyed by transgender women is only minimally reduced when testosterone is suppressed,' the study said.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... er-up.html

University of Cincinnati gender studies professor, 28, DEFENDS giving student ZERO grade for using phrase 'biological women': Brags about failing students who offend her woke beliefs on gender and race

A gender studies professor has proudly boasted of failing students who do not adhere to her hyper-woke beliefs, after a student complained of receiving a zero grade for a paper that used the term 'biological women'.

Melanie Rose Nipper, a 28 year-old adjunct professor of sexuality studies at the University of Cincinnati, vehemently stood by her grading practices Thursday.

She did so after student Olivia Krolczyk complained about being failed for using the previously uncontroversial term 'biological women', now branded offensive over claims it excludes trans women.


On Thursday, the adjunct faculty member of Women's Gender and Sexuality Studies revealed she is now the center of a school-sanctioned investigation, but still stood by her decision to dish out the failing grade
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... liefs.html

[Rovin]

gays/trans against 'Pride'

good post, i think thats what most ppl wud agree with : u do\be u but but dont influence, confuse, impose your beliefs\feelings\lifestyle on others especially d young kids ...

[Rovin]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=964015104634070



just saw this on fb - beyond ridiculous, de fug he wearing a pad for, to absorb he sweat ...

[gastly369]

And i have ah setta new adidas ting inno.. Cya wear dat again nuh..

[paid_influencer]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=964015104634070



just saw this on fb - beyond ridiculous, de fug he wearing a pad for, to absorb he sweat ...

nah, that 5th grade teacher is being purposefully obtuse. he knows that sex is the biological trait of being male or female while gender refers to the social roles we apply to those sexes. we can debate about values and philosophy only if we agree to certain baseline definitions for clarity but Ray isn't doing that. He's doing the equivalent of sticking his finger in his ears and going LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

For the OP, the women in the video are talking about the gender "trans men," which refers to persons who are biologically female but socially present as men. They generally do menstruate. Sure we can debate about putting pads in men's washrooms, and I can see that why that might be ridiculous, since we don't even put pads in women's wash rooms here.

[adnj]

https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=964015104634070



just saw this on fb - beyond ridiculous, de fug he wearing a pad for, to absorb he sweat ...

nah, that 5th grade teacher is being purposefully obtuse. he knows that sex is the biological trait of being male or female while gender refers to the social roles we apply to those sexes. we can debate about values and philosophy only if we agree to certain baseline definitions for clarity but Ray isn't doing that. He's doing the equivalent of sticking his finger in his ears and going LALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU.

For the OP, the women in the video are talking about the gender "trans men," which refers to persons who are biologically female but socially present as men. They generally do menstruate. Sure we can debate about putting pads in men's washrooms, and I can see that why that might be ridiculous, since we don't even put pads in women's wash rooms here.

That's wrong. Gender and sex have essentially similar meanings.

The only legal genders are male and female; though some countries recognize third/nonbinary/nonconforming.

Sex is defined as an organism's ability to produce reproductive cells and may also apply to gender. Currently, sex expression is also chromosomal.

Gender places an emphasis on the social aspects of the role played in society, relationships and reproduction but is also defined as the sex of an organism.

Gender identity is how an individual views and expresses their own perception of their role in relationships and society with respect to gender.

Transgender only applies to people that have actually begun surgical procedures or pharmaceutical therapies that change their birth gender.

[bluefete]

This was yesterday (Sunday) morning's service in a Lutheran church in good ole US of A:!

Go from 41:15 - 47:10

[redmanjp]

California will take custody of your kid if you do not affirm them

[adnj]

California will take custody of your kid if you do not affirm them

Really? Where is that written? Is it implied?

Here is the actual text of the amended law (line 1B is the inserted text):

3011. (a) In making a determination of the best interests of the child in a proceeding described in Section 3021, the court shall, among any other factors it finds relevant and consistent with Section 3020, consider all of the following:
(1) (A) The health, safety, and welfare of the child.
(B) As used in this paragraph, the health, safety, and welfare of the child includes a parent’s affirmation of the child’s gender identity.
(2) (A) A history of abuse by one parent or another person seeking custody against any of the following:
(i) A child to whom the parent or person seeking custody is related by blood or affinity or with whom the parent or person seeking custody has had a caretaking relationship, no matter how temporary.
(ii) The other parent.
(iii) A parent, current spouse, or cohabitant of the parent or person seeking custody, or a person with whom the parent or person seeking custody has a dating or engagement relationship.
(B) (i) As a prerequisite to considering allegations of abuse, the court may require independent corroboration, including, but not limited to, written reports by law enforcement agencies, child protective services or other social welfare agencies, courts, medical facilities, or other public agencies or private nonprofit organizations providing services to victims of sexual assault or domestic violence.
(ii) As used in this paragraph, “abuse against a child” means “child abuse or neglect” as defined in Section 11165.6 of the Penal Code.
(iii) Abuse against another person, as described in clause (ii) or (iii) of subparagraph (A), means “abuse” as defined in Section 6203.
(3) The nature and amount of contact with both parents, except as provided in Section 3046.
(4) (A) The habitual or continual illegal use of controlled substances or the habitual or continual abuse of alcohol or prescribed controlled substances by either parent. Before considering these allegations, the court may first require independent corroboration, including, but not limited to, written reports from law enforcement agencies, courts, probation departments, social welfare agencies, medical facilities, rehabilitation facilities, or other public agencies or nonprofit organizations providing drug and alcohol abuse services.
(B) As used in this paragraph, “controlled substances” has the same meaning as defined in the California Uniform Controlled Substances Act (Division 10 (commencing with Section 11000) of the Health and Safety Code).
(5) (A) When allegations about a parent pursuant to paragraph (2) or (4) have been brought to the attention of the court in the current proceeding and the court makes an order for sole or joint custody or unsupervised visitation to that parent, the court shall state its reasons in writing or on the record. In these circumstances, the court shall ensure that an order regarding custody or visitation is specific as to time, day, place, and manner of transfer of the child as set forth in subdivision (c) of Section 6323.
(B) This paragraph does not apply if the parties stipulate in writing or on the record regarding custody or visitation.
(b) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), the court shall not consider the sex, gender identity, gender expression, or sexual orientation of a parent, legal guardian, or relative in determining the best interests of the child.

https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/face ... 20240AB957

[SuperiorMan]

The LGBTQ say that you have to accept people for who they are but they themselves did not accept who they were.

[redmanjp]

If an able-bodied athlete identifies as disabled, can they take part in the Paralympics?

[paid_influencer]

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/11/ente ... index.html

Across the Spider-Verse Fans Are Convinced Gwen Is Trans

JOHN DODGE
PUBLISHED JUN 6, 2023
Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse fans are convinced the film's returning version of Gwen Stacy is a trans character (or at least an allegory).

CNN
—
“Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse” has become a smash hit at the box office – raking in more than $120 million during its opening weekend, the second largest of the year.

Fans and critics alike are praising the sequel to 2018’s “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse” for its buffet of visual indulgences, solidifying the franchise’s place in animated movie royalty. And there’s one thing some fans are particularly excited about: Gwen Stacy – a Spider superhero in an alternative universe – might be transgender.

Since the movie’s release earlier this month, fans have seized on some hints throughout the movie that seem to be pointing to Gwen’s gender identity. In one scene, a transgender flag is hanging in Gwen’s room, printed with the words “Protect Trans Kids.” In another, Gwen’s father is briefly seen with a trans flag pinned to his police uniform.

And throughout, Gwen is draped in pink and blue, the colors of the trans flag.

Since the June 2 release of Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse, fans have posted at length about the parallels between Gwen Stacy's story and color motifs and common trans allegories. Many pointed toward the fact that Gwen's color scheme is the same as that of the trans flag (pink, blue, and white), as well as her monologue about the difficulty of hiding her true self from the people she loves as clear signs that the character is trans. Other evidence includes a visible "Protect Trans Kids" flag in Gwen's room and what appears to be a trans pride pin on her father's jacket after he finally accepts her as Spider-Woman.

But whether Gwen Stacy is actually trans isn’t the most important part, Tunnell said. It’s that the message was there in the first place, and prominent enough to be heard.

“The people telling this story presented hers in a way that was clearly intended to resonate and support with many of our lives, both thematically and symbolically using the pride color palette,” said Tunnell, who is also trans. “I don’t think a character played by a cis woman being trans is nearly as important as a children’s movie telling trans kids and adult viewers that they’re not alone in their struggles and are seen and supported.”

Still, not everyone has been supportive of Gwen potentially being transgender. After Tunnell’s tweet went viral, she told CNN she was shocked by the amount of hatred and death threats she received.

“The fact that people are so rabid and hateful about the sheer concept of a character being trans, or even just a strong trans ally, shows why support and solidarity with trans folks is more important now than ever,” Tunnell said.

The first movie, “Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse,” was praised at the time of its release for highlighting minority cultures. Miles Morales, the Spider-Man at the center of this universe, is Afro-Latino, and director Peter Ramsey talked about the representation in the film as a “need being fulfilled.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/11/ente ... index.html

even 10 years ago you wouldn't think Spiderman would have a trans main character. it is a good sign imo

[ruffneck_12]

and what makes it a good sign?


Bearing in mind that trans people think nature/science in it's ever-knowing wonder got it wrong with them and they now have to invert their penis to form a vaginal canal with an expensive surgery.

Or chop off their breasts because they like blue instead of pink.

What makes it a good sign to include this in children's movies?

Anyways, back to fighting the good fight

[redmanjp]

what did Biden really expect? have they ever seen Pride events?

Transgender activist no longer welcome at White House after going topless at Biden event

https://apnews.com/article/biden-transgender-topless-white-house-rose-montoya-811dc7f4473ad6b3dd43dbec7f8b5d37

[ruffneck_12]

"Oh noooooo

The sexual deviant we invited from the sexual deviant group did sexually deviant acts

How could this happen"

*SNIFFS CHILD*

-Biden probably

[ruffneck_12]

what did Biden really expect? have they ever seen Pride events?

Transgender activist no longer welcome at White House after going topless at Biden event

https://apnews.com/article/biden-transgender-topless-white-house-rose-montoya-811dc7f4473ad6b3dd43dbec7f8b5d37

[redmanjp]

some rumours going around about some form parents signing to give consent for certain medical procedures.

[paid_influencer]

wat medical procedures

i had to sign consent form for the school to do hearing tests i think it normal

[bluefete]

Even Spider Man is pushing the agenda on children.


Blockbuster Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse has been pulled from cinema listings in more than a dozen Muslim-majority countries after a 'Protect Trans Kids' poster was spotted in one frame of the trailer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... oster.html

[adnj]

Even Spider Man is pushing the agenda on children.

Blockbuster Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse has been pulled from cinema listings in more than a dozen Muslim-majority countries after a 'Protect Trans Kids' poster was spotted in one frame of the trailer

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... oster.html

A point of interest is that many majority-muslim nations outlaw homosexuality and pornography but have similar rates of consumption of pornography and of homosexuality when compared to nations that are less restrictive.

Something else that is very interesting: in the Middle East, the most watched pornography categories in 2022 were "lesbian" and "anal."

[bluefete]

^^ Interesting information. BUT, the agenda is still targetting children.

[alfa]

^^ Interesting information. BUT, the agenda is still targetting children.

Correct is right. They could like they anal and lesbian as much as they want but I support their stance against the calculated targeting of kids.

[Les Bain]

^^ Interesting information. BUT, the agenda is still targetting children.

Correct is right. They could like they anal and lesbian as much as they want but I support their stance against the calculated targeting of kids.

Is this the same region that holds a certain prophet with a 9 year old wife in reverence?

[adnj]

^^ Interesting information. BUT, the agenda is still targetting children.

Correct is right. They could like they anal and lesbian as much as they want but I support their stance against the calculated targeting of kids.

I still can't be certain that either of you can actually articulate what the actual gay agenda is or what it means in the vernacular. That's what makes this so very interesting.

[alfa]

^^ Interesting information. BUT, the agenda is still targetting children.

Correct is right. They could like they anal and lesbian as much as they want but I support their stance against the calculated targeting of kids.

I still can't be certain that either of you can actually articulate what the actual gay agenda is or what it means in the vernacular. That's what makes this so very interesting.

Does it even matter? No gays are getting thrown off buildings here so they're not endangered. Other than that out of sight out of mind and i couldn't care less

[adnj]

^^ Interesting information. BUT, the agenda is still targetting children.

Correct is right. They could like they anal and lesbian as much as they want but I support their stance against the calculated targeting of kids.

I still can't be certain that either of you can actually articulate what the actual gay agenda is or what it means in the vernacular. That's what makes this so very interesting.

Does it even matter? No gays are getting thrown off buildings here so they're not endangered. Other than that out of sight out of mind and i couldn't care less

I had hoped that you could do it. I was wrong. So, let's just put you down as a "doesn't know."