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pugboy wrote:Gordon shouldn't have gone but I guess it is hard to not showup when you have big corporate sponsors
It is not the TTCF fault, they don't dictate who and how an athlete is coached etc
Njisane actually had a top foreign coach from before last olympics,
he came from nowhere to come fourth then
came home and celebrated for 2 years..........
ditched his coach and then went through a bout of depression and did his own thing........
I am not sure if other countries athletes does celebrate like that
others promoting their own brand of perfume etc.....
maybe the thick gold chains and local corporate sponsorship does hamper their future performance
it is not fair to cast all the athletes as not potentially good enough though
some like Andrew Lewis went out of their own way(money) to train year round and even lived in Rio
to try and learn the conditions there until he got injured badly.
Morpheus wrote:^^LoL
Jamaica has a sprint factory I reallu don't see why we don't have at least half of that.
Look at Cedenio. 20years old. Smashed the National Record set by Ian Morris. Start prepping him for 2020. We don't want to hear about no money to go to Diamond League events, Penn State relays etc.
T&T needs to get a grip and stop looking up and supporting athletes 2 months before Olympics start as is customary...
Redman wrote:Whats the basis for selection?
PariaMan wrote:The Americans ask why Latinos no representing in the Olympics when they are a substantial percentage of their population.
I ask why the Indians not representing when they are half our population.
For a small country like ours that hard to overcome
That said, to ask for equality in the persons representing the country at the Olympics is silly. The Olympics isn't about equality, it's about excellence and you have to send the best representatives you can. You can't complain about not enough a certain ethnicity not going if they aren't even trying out for the events or putting in the work to get to the level they have to be.
pugboy wrote:Gordon shouldn't have gone but I guess it is hard to not showup when you have big corporate sponsors
It is not the TTCF fault, they don't dictate who and how an athlete is coached etc
Njisane actually had a top foreign coach from before last olympics,
he came from nowhere to come fourth then
came home and celebrated for 2 years..........
ditched his coach and then went through a bout of depression and did his own thing........
I am not sure if other countries athletes does celebrate like that
others promoting their own brand of perfume etc.....
maybe the thick gold chains and local corporate sponsorship does hamper their future performance
it is not fair to cast all the athletes as not potentially good enough though
some like Andrew Lewis went out of their own way(money) to train year round and even lived in Rio
to try and learn the conditions there until he got injured badly.
pete wrote:Redman wrote:Whats the basis for selection?
The country can nominate 3 persons in each athletic event once they meet the qualification time/distance. I don't know what the criteria are for local selection but it should be the top three qualifiers for the country with certified times/distances.
That said, to ask for equality in the persons representing the country at the Olympics is silly. The Olympics isn't about equality, it's about excellence and you have to send the best representatives you can. You can't complain about not enough a certain ethnicity not going if they aren't even trying out for the events or putting in the work to get to the level they have to be.
Winning is winning, as long as you cross that line doesn't matter how you reach there Dizzy28 wrote:PariaMan wrote:The Americans ask why Latinos no representing in the Olympics when they are a substantial percentage of their population.
I ask why the Indians not representing when they are half our population.
For a small country like ours that hard to overcome
India has so far won no medals nor has any county with substantial Indian populations [Singapore, Malaysia, Guyana, Fiji] won any medals through Indian representation. So far the only medal an Indian has won [you all could correct me if there are others] is the Mixed doubles in Tennis where Venus Williams won Silver with Rajeev Ram.
Maybe it goes beyond Indian parents having a focus on Education over Sports or the absence of wealth [Compared to India our Indo Trinis much more wealthy and yet still we had zero Indos on the TT Olympic team]
Maybe its genetics/maybe its apathy??
2WNBoost wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3742587/Whatever-takes-Shaunae-Miller-Bahamas-DIVES-finish-line-women-s-400m-deny-Allyson-Felix-gold.html
'It's just painful': Allyson Felix tells of her heartbreak after losing 400-meter gold to Bahamian runner who dove across the finish line
Bahamas sprinter Shaunae Miller took gold in an upset win over USA's Allyson Felix in the women's 400m
Miller finished in extraordinary fashion, diving across the finish line to deny Felix her fifth gold medal
Miller started strong and led most of the race, but was nearly overtaken by Felix when she leapt
Felix became the most decorated US woman in track and field history with the 400m silver medal
America's Allyson Felix looked set to win the 400-meter dash on Monday, but she was edged out of first place thanks to a last minute dive from Bahamian sprinter Shaunae Miller.
After the race, it took Felix nearly an hour before she could confront reporters, as she told them of her extreme disappointment at failing to bring back another gold for Team USA.
'I’m a competitor. I went for it. At the moment,' Felix said. 'It’s just painful.'
She added: 'I feel emotionally and physically drained at this point...Just disappointment, you know. I don’t think I’ve quite had a year this tough. I just really wanted it.'
However, if there is any consolation prize, it's in the fact that her new silver medal makes her the most decorated female American in Olympic track & field history, ahead of Jackie Joyner-Kersee.
In an interview on the Today show Tuesday morning, Felix said the accomplishment hasn't quite sunk in yet.
'Not quite,' she said. 'It's is something that I'm very, very proud of. It's been so many years and so much hard work and something...to be in the same sentence as Jackie Joyner-Kersee, who is a minot and an idol - that's going to take a while to sink in.'
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During the race, Miller started out strong and led the pack for most of the 400 meters.But she was overtaken by Felix coming into the last straightaway.
As the two were approaching the finish line it seemed that Felix was going to win but Miller leaped forward and was the first to slide across the finish line.
In those final moments, when she was neck and neck with Miller, Felix said she just focused on giving it her all.
'I just dug deep. To me this year has been all about fighting, so I knew I was just going to give all I had and fight. And i felt like I did that and I left it all out there,' she said.
Felix said she had no idea who won in the seconds right after the finish.
'I wasn't sure, no. I was just kind of staring up at the board trying to see how it was going to sort out,' she said.
Felix said diving is something she's 'not too used to seeing' but says 'it happens every now and then'.
Miller herself said it's not a move she pulled before.
'I've never done it before,' Miller said of her dive. 'I have some cuts and bruises, a few burns… it hurts.'
'When I was on the ground I didn't know I'd won,' the gold medalist added. 'I still don't know how it happened.
'What was in my mind was I had to get a gold medal. The next thing I was on the ground. It's an amazing feeling.'
In the end, Miller finished the race at 49.44, a person best to Felix's 49.51, her season's best.
Jamaica's Shericka Jackson finished in third place with 49.85, with the two other Americans in the race finishing fourth and fifth.
Some on social media questioned whether winning by diving was fair.
'Shaunae Miller wasn't even running at that point,' wrote one fan on Twitter. 'How is that allowed? Allyson Felix was robbed #ByeBahamas'
Yet the rules are clear: 'The first athlete whose torso (as distinguished from the head, neck, arms, legs, hands or feet) reaches the vertical plane of the closest edge of the finish line is the winner,' explained NBC.
Some athletes came to Miller's defense.
'[People] are mad Miller won with a dive but most pro's at one point have used that tactic to win,' US athlete Lolo Jones, of track and field and bobsledding, wrote on Twitter. 'Miller didn't cheat Allyson, she won fair.'
Jones added: 'America we have won medals off of dives, so please have more class about Miller.'
'If Allyson had dove and won, everyone would be commending her heart,' wrote American athlete Ryan Wilson, who competes in 110m hurdles, on twitter.
Sprinter Michael Johnson tweeted another perspective: 'Shaunae Miller's dive was to recover from falling. Sprinters know the quickest way across the line is a well timed lean. Trust me on that.'
Miller's Olympic debut came at the 2012 London Olympics, but the then 18-year-old had a hamstring injury and had to sit out the event.
She has called the injury 'just a minor setback for a major comeback'.
Last year, she placed second at the 2015 World Championship. Felix took gold.
After the Olympics, she is set to marry decathelete Maicel Uibo of Estonia.
'Now I can start planning,' said Miller, who also won 400m medals at the 2010 World Junior Championships and the 2011 World Youth Championships.
'We kind of put everything on pause for a little bit just to focus on the Olympics, so while he's competing I'm going to do a little bit of planning here and there.'
Felix was the favorite for this race.
Monday's silver medal makes her the most decorated US woman in track and field history with seven medals. Jackie Joyner-Kersee has six.
Her first Olympic medal came in the 200m at her first Games, when she was 18 at Athens 2004.
Four years later, in Beijing, Felix took another silver in the 200m.
Her first gold came at London 2012, when she won the 200m race — as well as the 4x100m and 4x400m relays. That year, Felix became the first American female athlete to win three gold medals at the same Olympics since 1988.
With a second-place finish, she did miss out on becoming the first track and field athlete to win five gold medals overall.
However, she made history in other ways on Monday night - as the oldest woman to medal in the 400-meter race. Felix is 30 years old.
Medaling is also an amazing accomplishment for an athlete who was in crutches just months ago from an ankle injury.
That injury caused a bit of a shake-up for Felix at the Olympic Trials in July. Felix's signature race is the 200-meter, but she finished in fourth place at the trials thanks to her injury. She was still in enough shape to win the 400-meter at the trials, a race she admits is out of her comfort zone.
'It wasn’t the ideal situation,' she later conceded
'It wasn't my best race,' she told Today. 'I felt like it got a little away from me... it's outside my comfort zone. I feel like i'm a sprinter and it's stepping a little outside of what i'm used to.'
Twitter quickly reacted to Miller's win.
One user Photoshopped an image of Miller diving onto a Slip N' Slide.
Another compared her finish to submitting a college paper on the last minute.
Yet another one took pictures of a stunned Andre de Grasse, of Canada, who took bronze in the men's 100m sprint, saying: 'You mean I could've DOVE????'
rollingstock wrote:200m heats on now
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