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drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Guess you need to read a little more pfizer induces heart inflammationDe Dragon wrote:hover11 wrote:So you are saying inflammation in the heart is normal for a child ?De Dragon wrote:j.o.e wrote:Vaccines are available and people even have choices. Open up everything, mandatory vaccination for entertainment (cinemas, bars, in-house dining) and government services, even inter island travel.
May the odds be in your favour if you refuse to vax.
Anti vaxxers want to make that choice, but expect it to have zero consequences, hence their reliance on semantics, misinformation, ignoring the science, and in the case of our local bunch, outright lies and vaccine scare tactics, such as 1 in 20000 children having an adverse, non fatal reaction.
Anaphylaxis is heart inflammation?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... yocarditis
No anaphylaxis after second dose of mRNA COVID vaccine, study finds
People who had a severe allergic reaction to their first dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine had no issues after their second dose, according to a retrospective multicenter US study today in JAMA Internal Medicine.
Allergic reactions are estimated to occur in up to 2% of people after their first mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose, with anaphylaxis reported in as many as 2.5 per 10,000 vaccinees. Anaphylaxis is a severe and potentially deadly systemic allergic reaction.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... tudy-finds
This is a terrible study …
189 people … extremely low sample size even lower since 84% returned for their second shot.
Most of the people were women 86%
30% we pretreated with antihistamines which changes your data set.
They even admitted that most of these reactions in the initial shot may not have been allergic reactions at all.
It’s sad what they try to pass off as science these days.
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:adnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Guess you need to read a little more pfizer induces heart inflammationDe Dragon wrote:hover11 wrote:So you are saying inflammation in the heart is normal for a child ?De Dragon wrote:j.o.e wrote:Vaccines are available and people even have choices. Open up everything, mandatory vaccination for entertainment (cinemas, bars, in-house dining) and government services, even inter island travel.
May the odds be in your favour if you refuse to vax.
Anti vaxxers want to make that choice, but expect it to have zero consequences, hence their reliance on semantics, misinformation, ignoring the science, and in the case of our local bunch, outright lies and vaccine scare tactics, such as 1 in 20000 children having an adverse, non fatal reaction.
Anaphylaxis is heart inflammation?
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-sho ... yocarditis
No anaphylaxis after second dose of mRNA COVID vaccine, study finds
People who had a severe allergic reaction to their first dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccine had no issues after their second dose, according to a retrospective multicenter US study today in JAMA Internal Medicine.
Allergic reactions are estimated to occur in up to 2% of people after their first mRNA COVID-19 vaccine dose, with anaphylaxis reported in as many as 2.5 per 10,000 vaccinees. Anaphylaxis is a severe and potentially deadly systemic allergic reaction.
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspec ... tudy-finds
This is a terrible study …
189 people … extremely low sample size even lower since 84% returned for their second shot.
Most of the people were women 86%
30% we pretreated with antihistamines which changes your data set.
They even admitted that most of these reactions in the initial shot may not have been allergic reactions at all.
It’s sad what they try to pass off as science these days.
And few days = a month. Same thing.
adnj wrote:What you need to know about the new COVID-19 variant C.1.2 detected in South Africa
Although not a variant of interest or concern yet, experts are closely watching it because of its similarities to delta.
- There is a variant first detected in South Africa in May named C.1.2.
- It is not a variant of interest or concern yet, though experts are keeping an eye on it.
- Newly published data suggests it has been found in countries in Africa, Europe and Oceania.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... vid-19?amp
drchaos wrote:Should we start panicking yet?
adnj wrote:drchaos wrote:Should we start panicking yet?
Dickcurious doesn't have any bed pans to clean.
projection? adnj wrote:What you need to know about the new COVID-19 variant C.1.2 detected in South Africa
Although not a variant of interest or concern yet, experts are closely watching it because of its similarities to delta.
- There is a variant first detected in South Africa in May named C.1.2.
- It is not a variant of interest or concern yet, though experts are keeping an eye on it.
- Newly published data suggests it has been found in countries in Africa, Europe and Oceania.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... vid-19?amp
Dohplaydat wrote:
Damn looks like they found the microchips
Archbishop: Make sacrificial choice, get vaccinated
The Catholic Archbishop, Rev Charles Jason Gordon, has made another desperate plea to the nation to get vaccinated.
After delivering the virtual homily on Sunday at the Living Water Community Chapel, 109 Frederick Street, Port of Spain, Gordon returned to the altar to send a strong message to the nation.
He said, “If we're going to save this beautiful nation of ours and if we're going to live in some form of peace and harmony, then vaccination is one of the ways that we have to go for the sake of the common good, for the sake of the good of all.
"Because as long as huge pockets of the country are not being vaccinated. The schools are going to be closed again, the businesses are going to be closed again, churches are going to remain closed and social life as we know it is going to remain what it is right now.”
Gordon said the public must stand together to save the future of children and the economy of Trinidad and Tobago.
“Let's not amplify the minuscule risk while not looking at the major pandemic that is facing us. I am begging you, please reconsider.”
In a second public plea, Gordon called on the public to ignore misinformation from unreliable sources.
"There's a lot of spurious information that is flying around that is stopping people from being vaccinated. I know it's a matter of conscience but we must have an informed conscience. And to have an informed conscience, I'm begging you to think with the church.
“That kind of thinking is not theological thinking that's magical thinking. And it has to do with a misunderstanding of our tradition. Our tradition is that you don't put God to the test.
"There's a difference between faith and stupidity. There's a big, big difference."
He asked the public to be cautious in the decisions they made during the pandemic.
“I don't know about you, but I don't like how we live right now. I meet too many people on the fringe of an economic collapse in their personal and family life to think that what we are doing now is good. It is not good, it is terrible.”
Gordon believes the lack of accurate information in circulation along with TT culture and the resistance to the science behind the vaccine is what was causing the current high vaccine hesitancy rate,
“For the sake of the whole nation and preserving what we have as an independent Trinidad and Tobago, we have to make the hard choices. The choice to be vaccinated.”
He advised religious leaders not to deter their followers away from getting vaccinated.
"Instead, help them understand the importance of getting vaccinated and the critical part each person plays in the fight against the virus.
“We are now at a crossroads in our nation. If enough of us are not being vaccinated, the economy will never open sufficiently to stop the people who are now in poverty to come back out of poverty and back into meaningful work.
"The second issue is that we're going to have a generation of children who would have been in and out, in and out of school. We could stop that, we could stop it if we made the sacrificial choice to be vaccinated.”
No physical church means less tithes coming in , he gotta miss that easy non taxable incomeredmanjp wrote:man like he fedup with antivaxxers, the economic fallout and virtual church
http://newsday.co.tt/2021/08/30/archbishop-make-sacrificial-choice-get-vaccinated/Archbishop: Make sacrificial choice, get vaccinated
The Catholic Archbishop, Rev Charles Jason Gordon, has made another desperate plea to the nation to get vaccinated.
After delivering the virtual homily on Sunday at the Living Water Community Chapel, 109 Frederick Street, Port of Spain, Gordon returned to the altar to send a strong message to the nation.
He said, “If we're going to save this beautiful nation of ours and if we're going to live in some form of peace and harmony, then vaccination is one of the ways that we have to go for the sake of the common good, for the sake of the good of all.
"Because as long as huge pockets of the country are not being vaccinated. The schools are going to be closed again, the businesses are going to be closed again, churches are going to remain closed and social life as we know it is going to remain what it is right now.”
Gordon said the public must stand together to save the future of children and the economy of Trinidad and Tobago.
“Let's not amplify the minuscule risk while not looking at the major pandemic that is facing us. I am begging you, please reconsider.”
In a second public plea, Gordon called on the public to ignore misinformation from unreliable sources.
"There's a lot of spurious information that is flying around that is stopping people from being vaccinated. I know it's a matter of conscience but we must have an informed conscience. And to have an informed conscience, I'm begging you to think with the church.
“That kind of thinking is not theological thinking that's magical thinking. And it has to do with a misunderstanding of our tradition. Our tradition is that you don't put God to the test.
"There's a difference between faith and stupidity. There's a big, big difference."
He asked the public to be cautious in the decisions they made during the pandemic.
“I don't know about you, but I don't like how we live right now. I meet too many people on the fringe of an economic collapse in their personal and family life to think that what we are doing now is good. It is not good, it is terrible.”
Gordon believes the lack of accurate information in circulation along with TT culture and the resistance to the science behind the vaccine is what was causing the current high vaccine hesitancy rate,
“For the sake of the whole nation and preserving what we have as an independent Trinidad and Tobago, we have to make the hard choices. The choice to be vaccinated.”
He advised religious leaders not to deter their followers away from getting vaccinated.
"Instead, help them understand the importance of getting vaccinated and the critical part each person plays in the fight against the virus.
“We are now at a crossroads in our nation. If enough of us are not being vaccinated, the economy will never open sufficiently to stop the people who are now in poverty to come back out of poverty and back into meaningful work.
"The second issue is that we're going to have a generation of children who would have been in and out, in and out of school. We could stop that, we could stop it if we made the sacrificial choice to be vaccinated.”
.Don't you know if you pray anywhere else but church or places of worship on the whole, you receive less blessingsredmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:What you need to know about the new COVID-19 variant C.1.2 detected in South Africa
Although not a variant of interest or concern yet, experts are closely watching it because of its similarities to delta.
- There is a variant first detected in South Africa in May named C.1.2.
- It is not a variant of interest or concern yet, though experts are keeping an eye on it.
- Newly published data suggests it has been found in countries in Africa, Europe and Oceania.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... vid-19?amp
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/09/01/abdool-richards-trinidad-and-tobago-on-alert-for-new-covid19-variant/
redmanjp wrote:man like he fedup with antivaxxers, the economic fallout and virtual church
http://newsday.co.tt/2021/08/30/archbishop-make-sacrificial-choice-get-vaccinated/Archbishop: Make sacrificial choice, get vaccinated
The Catholic Archbishop, Rev Charles Jason Gordon, has made another desperate plea to the nation to get vaccinated.
After delivering the virtual homily on Sunday at the Living Water Community Chapel, 109 Frederick Street, Port of Spain, Gordon returned to the altar to send a strong message to the nation.
He said, “If we're going to save this beautiful nation of ours and if we're going to live in some form of peace and harmony, then vaccination is one of the ways that we have to go for the sake of the common good, for the sake of the good of all.
"Because as long as huge pockets of the country are not being vaccinated. The schools are going to be closed again, the businesses are going to be closed again, churches are going to remain closed and social life as we know it is going to remain what it is right now.”
Gordon said the public must stand together to save the future of children and the economy of Trinidad and Tobago.
“Let's not amplify the minuscule risk while not looking at the major pandemic that is facing us. I am begging you, please reconsider.”
In a second public plea, Gordon called on the public to ignore misinformation from unreliable sources.
"There's a lot of spurious information that is flying around that is stopping people from being vaccinated. I know it's a matter of conscience but we must have an informed conscience. And to have an informed conscience, I'm begging you to think with the church.
“That kind of thinking is not theological thinking that's magical thinking. And it has to do with a misunderstanding of our tradition. Our tradition is that you don't put God to the test.
"There's a difference between faith and stupidity. There's a big, big difference."
He asked the public to be cautious in the decisions they made during the pandemic.
“I don't know about you, but I don't like how we live right now. I meet too many people on the fringe of an economic collapse in their personal and family life to think that what we are doing now is good. It is not good, it is terrible.”
Gordon believes the lack of accurate information in circulation along with TT culture and the resistance to the science behind the vaccine is what was causing the current high vaccine hesitancy rate,
“For the sake of the whole nation and preserving what we have as an independent Trinidad and Tobago, we have to make the hard choices. The choice to be vaccinated.”
He advised religious leaders not to deter their followers away from getting vaccinated.
"Instead, help them understand the importance of getting vaccinated and the critical part each person plays in the fight against the virus.
“We are now at a crossroads in our nation. If enough of us are not being vaccinated, the economy will never open sufficiently to stop the people who are now in poverty to come back out of poverty and back into meaningful work.
"The second issue is that we're going to have a generation of children who would have been in and out, in and out of school. We could stop that, we could stop it if we made the sacrificial choice to be vaccinated.”
"There's a difference between faith and stupidity. There's a big, big difference."Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:What you need to know about the new COVID-19 variant C.1.2 detected in South Africa
Although not a variant of interest or concern yet, experts are closely watching it because of its similarities to delta.
- There is a variant first detected in South Africa in May named C.1.2.
- It is not a variant of interest or concern yet, though experts are keeping an eye on it.
- Newly published data suggests it has been found in countries in Africa, Europe and Oceania.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... vid-19?amp
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/09/01/abdool-richards-trinidad-and-tobago-on-alert-for-new-covid19-variant/
Them on the lookout for something that is not even a variant of concern. They just parrot whatever they hear WHO say and then come and play they is big scientist.
adnj wrote:"There's a difference between faith and stupidity. There's a big, big difference."Mmoney607 wrote:redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:What you need to know about the new COVID-19 variant C.1.2 detected in South Africa
Although not a variant of interest or concern yet, experts are closely watching it because of its similarities to delta.
- There is a variant first detected in South Africa in May named C.1.2.
- It is not a variant of interest or concern yet, though experts are keeping an eye on it.
- Newly published data suggests it has been found in countries in Africa, Europe and Oceania.
https://thehill.com/changing-america/we ... vid-19?amp
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/09/01/abdool-richards-trinidad-and-tobago-on-alert-for-new-covid19-variant/
Them on the lookout for something that is not even a variant of concern. They just parrot whatever they hear WHO say and then come and play they is big scientist.
Up to now they can't disclose how many children were hospitalized since the inception of this pandemicMmoney607 wrote:Anybody realize these people really not collecting any data? The scramble to find out how many children and pregnant women have covid, you supposed to know all them thing off the bat.
Up to know we have no definitive answers on what is causing all these sustained high numbers of deaths.
hover11 wrote:Up to now they can't disclose how many children were hospitalized since the inception of this pandemicMmoney607 wrote:Anybody realize these people really not collecting any data? The scramble to find out how many children and pregnant women have covid, you supposed to know all them thing off the bat.
Up to know we have no definitive answers on what is causing all these sustained high numbers of deaths.
Yes that a problem, present real time data , don't just show us things that makes your agenda look goodDe Dragon wrote:Anti vax crew asking for data?
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