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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 43344 cases, 1244 deaths, 5097 active, 37003 recovered in T&T

Postby Dohplaydat » August 27th, 2021, 5:17 pm

adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....
Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.
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that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!


- for the southern PAHO, Delta will only start to influence projection but Gamma remains dominant.

- vaccination rates are expected to increase due to changing attitudes and availability.

- Beta variant at zero percent dominance.

- mobility is 20% below baseline

- mask wearing is at 80%.


Has delta become dominant in any country where gamama was dominant?

Could mean that the transmission rate of Delta isnt significantly better than gamma.

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Postby hover11 » August 27th, 2021, 5:18 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....
Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.
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that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!


- for the southern PAHO, Delta will only start to influence projection but Gamma remains dominant.

- vaccination rates are expected to increase due to changing attitudes and availability.

- Beta variant at zero percent dominance.

- mobility is 20% below baseline

- mask wearing is at 80%.


Has delta become dominant in any country where gamama was dominant?

Could mean that the transmission rate of Delta isnt significantly better than gamma.
However there is no specific test that identifies delta, even if it were here, how would we know?

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Postby teems1 » August 27th, 2021, 5:22 pm

MoH needs to come out and indicate if those deaths are persons who were not vaccinated.

That will spur the hesitant to go get the shot.

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Postby widdyphuck » August 27th, 2021, 5:36 pm

teems1 wrote:MoH needs to come out and indicate if those deaths are persons who were not vaccinated.

That will spur the hesitant to go get the shot.
Of course they didn't take the vaccine.
Even if they did Ministry won't admit it.

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Postby hover11 » August 27th, 2021, 5:58 pm

wtf wrote:
teems1 wrote:MoH needs to come out and indicate if those deaths are persons who were not vaccinated.

That will spur the hesitant to go get the shot.
Of course they didn't take the vaccine.
Even if they did Ministry won't admit it.
Exactly
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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 27th, 2021, 6:04 pm

^ but they need scientists and medical professionals.
And when those scientists and medical professionals tell the people who claim they can "think critically" and "do their own research" and "know their rights" what to do, they don't listen.
So who's actually "dumb enough"?

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Postby redmanjp » August 27th, 2021, 6:38 pm

but the antivaxxers using sheep dewormers

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 27th, 2021, 6:51 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:Deaths continue to be very high at 7 a day, all these lives could have been saved if they took the vaccine.


Vaccines were not available and are not easily accessible for to the pnm.

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Re: Coronavirus - COVID-19 - 43344 cases, 1244 deaths, 5097 active, 37003 recovered in T&T

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » August 27th, 2021, 6:59 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Deaths continue to be very high at 7 a day, all these lives could have been saved if they took the vaccine.


Vaccines were not available and are not easily accessible for to the pnm.

What does this mean????

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Postby adnj » August 27th, 2021, 7:04 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....
Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.
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that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!


- for the southern PAHO, Delta will only start to influence projection but Gamma remains dominant.

- vaccination rates are expected to increase due to changing attitudes and availability.

- Beta variant at zero percent dominance.

- mobility is 20% below baseline

- mask wearing is at 80%.


Has delta become dominant in any country where gamama was dominant?

Could mean that the transmission rate of Delta isnt significantly better than gamma.
No, not yet.

Delta has two mutations that may help it to spread more easily. Gamma has a mutation that may help it to spread more easily and one mutation that may help it to evade antibodies.

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Postby adnj » August 27th, 2021, 7:07 pm

hover11 wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
adnj wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....
Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.
Image


that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!


- for the southern PAHO, Delta will only start to influence projection but Gamma remains dominant.

- vaccination rates are expected to increase due to changing attitudes and availability.

- Beta variant at zero percent dominance.

- mobility is 20% below baseline

- mask wearing is at 80%.


Has delta become dominant in any country where gamama was dominant?

Could mean that the transmission rate of Delta isnt significantly better than gamma.
However there is no specific test that identifies delta, even if it were here, how would we know?
Any sample that tests positive for COVID can then be sequenced for identification of any variant.

Frankly, you might want to be very concerned that the Gamma variant is predicted to be the dominant variant in TTO.

Gamma is the dominant strain in Peru and Peru has one of the highest COVID mortality rates in the world. South and Central America are buckling under the weight of Gamma infections.

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Postby MaxPower » August 27th, 2021, 8:11 pm

People continue to play the ass and blame the vaccine when they get infected.

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Postby hover11 » August 28th, 2021, 7:51 am

4. Leaders have lied so much before if they are telling the truth now it would be hard to believe
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Postby adnj » August 28th, 2021, 9:25 am

Among children, older teens are seeing the highest Covid-19 case rates

(CNN)Coronavirus infections continue to surge among children across the United States, and older teens, ages 16 and 17, are facing the highest rate of weekly cases, according to a new CNN analysis of the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

As of Saturday, these teens appear to have the highest rate of infections among not only children, but all age groups, based on the CDC's count of weekly Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/26/heal ... index.html

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Postby hover11 » August 28th, 2021, 9:29 am

adnj wrote:Among children, older teens are seeing the highest Covid-19 case rates

(CNN)Coronavirus infections continue to surge among children across the United States, and older teens, ages 16 and 17, are facing the highest rate of weekly cases, according to a new CNN analysis of the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

As of Saturday, these teens appear to have the highest rate of infections among not only children, but all age groups, based on the CDC's count of weekly Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/26/heal ... index.html
Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?

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Postby Mmoney607 » August 28th, 2021, 10:29 am

adnj wrote:Among children, older teens are seeing the highest Covid-19 case rates

(CNN)Coronavirus infections continue to surge among children across the United States, and older teens, ages 16 and 17, are facing the highest rate of weekly cases, according to a new CNN analysis of the latest data from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

As of Saturday, these teens appear to have the highest rate of infections among not only children, but all age groups, based on the CDC's count of weekly Covid-19 cases per 100,000 people.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/26/heal ... index.html


They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?

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Postby adnj » August 28th, 2021, 11:12 am

hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.

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Postby hover11 » August 28th, 2021, 11:36 am

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children

Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.


There you go man

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Postby adnj » August 28th, 2021, 11:53 am

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children

Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.


There you go man
See how easy it is?

Among the lowest mortality rates and among the highest infection rates. And even lower risk of harm or death due to vaccinations.

Do with that information as you wish.

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Postby hover11 » August 28th, 2021, 11:58 am

Lowest risk then no need to vaccinate against something such as that, those alleged eight children that we have in hospital atm will survive as well
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children

Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.


There you go man
See how easy it is?

Among the lowest mortality rates and among the highest infection rates. And even lower risk of harm or death due to vaccinations.

Do with that information as you wish.

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Postby adnj » August 28th, 2021, 12:07 pm

hover11 wrote:Lowest risk then no need to vaccinate against something such as that, those alleged eight children that we have in hospital atm will survive as well
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children

Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.


There you go man
See how easy it is?

Among the lowest mortality rates and among the highest infection rates. And even lower risk of harm or death due to vaccinations.

Do with that information as you wish.


Then by extension, one could argue that the current policy of allowing children accompanying vaccinated parents into TTO without the need to quarantine upon arrival is appropriate and sufficient.

Unless, on the other hand, there is real risk of COVID spread due to the higher infection rates of adolescents. In that case, children should be quarantined or vaccinated or both.

Once you start to look at the situation holistically, you may rationally begin to conclude that each link in the chain is difficult, if not impossible, to exclude.

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Postby hover11 » August 28th, 2021, 12:11 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Lowest risk then no need to vaccinate against something such as that, those alleged eight children that we have in hospital atm will survive as well
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children

Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.


There you go man
See how easy it is?

Among the lowest mortality rates and among the highest infection rates. And even lower risk of harm or death due to vaccinations.

Do with that information as you wish.


Then by extension, one could argue that the current policy of allowing children accompanying vaccinated parents into TTO without the need to quarantine upon arrival is appropriate and sufficient.

Unless, on the other hand, there is real risk of COVID spread due to the higher infection rates of adolescents. In that case, children should be quarantined or vaccinated or both.

Once you start to look at the situation holistically, you may rationally begin to conclude that each link in the chain is difficult, if not impossible, to exclude.
The quarantine policies we have at the moment on the whole are assine, as I said from inception both vaccinated and unvaccinated should quarantine as both are subject to have the ability to spread the virus onto others

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Postby adnj » August 28th, 2021, 12:19 pm

hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Lowest risk then no need to vaccinate against something such as that, those alleged eight children that we have in hospital atm will survive as well
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:
adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:Yes they are contracting but what is the mortality rate like?


Mmoney607 wrote:They have vaccines easily available to them. Why they not taking it? Are they white Trump supporting QAnon conspiracy theorists?


You tell me. Take your time.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01897-w

Deaths from COVID ‘incredibly rare’ among children

Studies find that overall risk of death or severe disease from COVID-19 is very low in kids.


There you go man
See how easy it is?

Among the lowest mortality rates and among the highest infection rates. And even lower risk of harm or death due to vaccinations.

Do with that information as you wish.


Then by extension, one could argue that the current policy of allowing children accompanying vaccinated parents into TTO without the need to quarantine upon arrival is appropriate and sufficient.

Unless, on the other hand, there is real risk of COVID spread due to the higher infection rates of adolescents. In that case, children should be quarantined or vaccinated or both.

Once you start to look at the situation holistically, you may rationally begin to conclude that each link in the chain is difficult, if not impossible, to exclude.
The quarantine policies we have at the moment on the whole are assine, as I said from inception both vaccinated and unvaccinated should quarantine as both are subject to have the ability to spread the virus onto others
In my opinion, the weak link is that the unvaccinated are allowed to enter without quarantine.
But that risk is mitigated with vaccination.
But you are against vaccination.
Then you are accepting the unmitigated risk.

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Postby MaxPower » August 28th, 2021, 2:14 pm

Team,

What can we expect in today’s briefing?

Master Keith is worried.

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Postby hover11 » August 28th, 2021, 2:32 pm

MaxPower wrote:Team,

What can we expect in today’s briefing?

Master Keith is worried.
Buff to vaccinate our children

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Postby DMan7 » August 28th, 2021, 2:39 pm

What allya doing here, allya should be watching the news conference...

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Postby redmanjp » August 28th, 2021, 2:53 pm

10 children now hospitalized. 1 in ICU 1 in HDU.

Allyuh still fraid to give d children d jab?

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Postby DMan7 » August 28th, 2021, 2:56 pm

redmanjp wrote:10 children now hospitalized. 1 in ICU 1 in HDU.

Allyuh still fraid to give d children d jab?


After that no parent should be hesitating anymore.

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