COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[adnj]

Every man is his own island...the facts are the facts children were not a factor in hospitalizations until this point , what variable entered the equation if Delta is not here?

Since the lockdowns started, people have been finding all kinda ways to party (private zess). Yet no kids were reported of having covid or furthermore seriously ill from such. However,as soon as yall start vaccinating people children allyuh get eight cases? Then want to blame it on parties ? Cool. The people ain't gonna be sheep forever eh, soon enough the majority would wake up and see what's going on.

You willing to let your child take the chance if you had to make the choice?

https://868media.com/2021/08/26/tt-schoolboy-diagnosed-with-pericarditis-after-receiving-pfizer-vaccine/


Soon you will see alot of young persons developing hearth conditions

that same site also denying the pandemic even exists

https://868media.com/2021/03/12/tt-isnt-facing-a-pandemic-12-proofs/

but contrast the risks of the vaccine with the fact that 8 kids are in hospital for covid.

take the chance with the vax or the virus? so far we have 2 adverse events but 8 kids currently with severe covid in hospital. there may have been hospitalized cases before this as well. of course you have to know your kids medical history which includes allergies etc. and have a chat with a pediatrician .

is like you in a burning house and have to jump from a 2nd or 3rd storey window- u cud get injured by the jump but to stay is more likely u will be injured or killed.

Tell them Hoover. We are so fortunate to have a free thinker like you to guide us instead of the so called experts. We would do well to let you advise and implement the response.

I don't know of any information that says that there were no children hospitalized before August.

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Young children dying in Brazil as Gamma variant surges

11:37am Jun 22, 2021

Brazilian hospitals overwhelmed by new cases

Young children in Brazil are dying from coronavirus, as its national death toll ticked past 500,000 yesterday.

On top of the rising number of child deaths, researchers in Sao Paulo believe the P1 variant, also known as the Gamma variant, is killing an unusually high number of pregnant women and unborn babies.

The Brazilian health ministry states 1122 children under the age of 10 have died since the start of the pandemic, but one research group claims the number is closer to 3000.

NGO Vital Strategies said more than 1000 children have lost their lives this year alone.

Some experts believe Brazilian paediatricians are reluctant to conduct COVID-19 testing on young children, allowing the virus to cause sometimes fatal sickness.

The tell-tale symptoms of the virus – runny nose, coughing and sore throats – are common among the young, which means doctors can miss a proper diagnosis.

https://www.9news.com.au/world/gamma-va ... 478805cd27

[hover11]

Exactly my point.....that would have made news and the ministry would have highlighted such at once , so what occurred or warranted these alleged eight children to be admitted for hospitalization if the only variant we are currently facing is Gamma

Every man is his own island...the facts are the facts children were not a factor in hospitalizations until this point , what variable entered the equation if Delta is not here?

Since the lockdowns started, people have been finding all kinda ways to party (private zess). Yet no kids were reported of having covid or furthermore seriously ill from such. However,as soon as yall start vaccinating people children allyuh get eight cases? Then want to blame it on parties ? Cool. The people ain't gonna be sheep forever eh, soon enough the majority would wake up and see what's going on.

You willing to let your child take the chance if you had to make the choice?

https://868media.com/2021/08/26/tt-schoolboy-diagnosed-with-pericarditis-after-receiving-pfizer-vaccine/


Soon you will see alot of young persons developing hearth conditions

that same site also denying the pandemic even exists

https://868media.com/2021/03/12/tt-isnt-facing-a-pandemic-12-proofs/

but contrast the risks of the vaccine with the fact that 8 kids are in hospital for covid.

take the chance with the vax or the virus? so far we have 2 adverse events but 8 kids currently with severe covid in hospital. there may have been hospitalized cases before this as well. of course you have to know your kids medical history which includes allergies etc. and have a chat with a pediatrician .

is like you in a burning house and have to jump from a 2nd or 3rd storey window- u cud get injured by the jump but to stay is more likely u will be injured or killed.

Tell them Hoover. We are so fortunate to have a free thinker like you to guide us instead of the so called experts. We would do well to let you advise and implement the response.

I don't know of any information that says that tgete were no children hospitalized before August.

[adnj]

Exactly my point.....that would have made news and the ministry would have highlighted such at once , so what occurred or warranted these alleged eight children to be admitted for hospitalization if the only variant we are currently facing is Gamma

Every man is his own island...the facts are the facts children were not a factor in hospitalizations until this point , what variable entered the equation if Delta is not here?

Since the lockdowns started, people have been finding all kinda ways to party (private zess). Yet no kids were reported of having covid or furthermore seriously ill from such. However,as soon as yall start vaccinating people children allyuh get eight cases? Then want to blame it on parties ? Cool. The people ain't gonna be sheep forever eh, soon enough the majority would wake up and see what's going on.

You willing to let your child take the chance if you had to make the choice?

that same site also denying the pandemic even exists

https://868media.com/2021/03/12/tt-isnt-facing-a-pandemic-12-proofs/

but contrast the risks of the vaccine with the fact that 8 kids are in hospital for covid.

take the chance with the vax or the virus? so far we have 2 adverse events but 8 kids currently with severe covid in hospital. there may have been hospitalized cases before this as well. of course you have to know your kids medical history which includes allergies etc. and have a chat with a pediatrician .

is like you in a burning house and have to jump from a 2nd or 3rd storey window- u cud get injured by the jump but to stay is more likely u will be injured or killed.

Tell them Hoover. We are so fortunate to have a free thinker like you to guide us instead of the so called experts. We would do well to let you advise and implement the response.

I don't know of any information that says that tgete were no children hospitalized before August.

Gamma variant. See edits above.

[redmanjp]

i think there were in fact a few cases of kids in hospital before but not this many at once. gamma is in itself a bit more severe than the original strain.

[aaron17]

868media aka the onion?

[daring dragoon]

same result as when we were 8 deaths and when they give the vaccine cases triple in number to 50 plus a day in april up from 15 or so in march. the vaccine is the killer.

Since the lockdowns started, people have been finding all kinda ways to party (private zess). Yet no kids were reported of having covid or furthermore seriously ill from such. However,as soon as yall start vaccinating people children allyuh get eight cases? Then want to blame it on parties ? Cool. The people ain't gonna be sheep forever eh, soon enough the majority would wake up and see what's going on.

You willing to let your child take the chance if you had to make the choice?

https://868media.com/2021/08/26/tt-schoolboy-diagnosed-with-pericarditis-after-receiving-pfizer-vaccine/


Soon you will see alot of young persons developing hearth conditions

that same site also denying the pandemic even exists

https://868media.com/2021/03/12/tt-isnt-facing-a-pandemic-12-proofs/

but contrast the risks of the vaccine with the fact that 8 kids are in hospital for covid.

take the chance with the vax or the virus? so far we have 2 adverse events but 8 kids currently with severe covid in hospital. there may have been hospitalized cases before this as well. of course you have to know your kids medical history which includes allergies etc. and have a chat with a pediatrician .

is like you in a burning house and have to jump from a 2nd or 3rd storey window- u cud get injured by the jump but to stay is more likely u will be injured or killed.

[hover11]

I just find it very convenient or coincidental that the moment they decided to vaccinate children all of a sudden the spotlight is on 8 kids that were hospitalized

same result as when we were 8 deaths and when they give the vaccine cases triple in number to 50 plus a day in april up from 15 or so in march. the vaccine is the killer.

Since the lockdowns started, people have been finding all kinda ways to party (private zess). Yet no kids were reported of having covid or furthermore seriously ill from such. However,as soon as yall start vaccinating people children allyuh get eight cases? Then want to blame it on parties ? Cool. The people ain't gonna be sheep forever eh, soon enough the majority would wake up and see what's going on.

You willing to let your child take the chance if you had to make the choice?

https://868media.com/2021/08/26/tt-schoolboy-diagnosed-with-pericarditis-after-receiving-pfizer-vaccine/


Soon you will see alot of young persons developing hearth conditions

that same site also denying the pandemic even exists

https://868media.com/2021/03/12/tt-isnt-facing-a-pandemic-12-proofs/

but contrast the risks of the vaccine with the fact that 8 kids are in hospital for covid.

take the chance with the vax or the virus? so far we have 2 adverse events but 8 kids currently with severe covid in hospital. there may have been hospitalized cases before this as well. of course you have to know your kids medical history which includes allergies etc. and have a chat with a pediatrician .

is like you in a burning house and have to jump from a 2nd or 3rd storey window- u cud get injured by the jump but to stay is more likely u will be injured or killed.

[Dizzy28]

My cousin who lives next to me died in Couva this morning having been admitted yesterday. She was 66 but had diabetes and HBP. Her GP said she had a stroke on Wednesday and referred her to a hospital but on arrival at Mt Hope they put her in the Covid tent and tested her with the test coming back positive.

She had both shots but Saturday would make it two weeks from her 2nd one so not fully vaccinated.

As an aside I went and assisted putting her in the car to go doctor on Wednesday as after 1 hour EMS still hadn't answered the phone. She was unmasked but I was. Officially the doctors at Couva told my cousin's son no worries if you fully vaccinated, just monitor for around 5 days for any symptoms. Obviously my wife and mother a bit worried for me.

[redmanjp]

^ sorry for your loss. do you know which vaccine she got?

[Dizzy28]

^ sorry for your loss. do you know which vaccine she got?

Thank You.
She had Sinopharm

[adnj]

Please accept my condolences.

[Dizzy28]

Please accept my condolences.

Thank You. Right now the hardest thing is really the social distancing. I live where the 3 closest houses to me are cousins, 8 houses away is another and one road away is another. The Village is also very close knit and typically by now would have been at least a hundred persons at the home.

For me I generally hold no regrets but just have some sadness as she for the first time since doing it didn't come and tie a Rakhi for me weekend gone because she knew my household fairly strict with our protocols.

[matr1x]

Well sheit.


Dawg, I am sorry for your loss.

[Carbon12]

Please accept my condolences.

Thank You. Right now the hardest thing is really the social distancing. I live where the 3 closest houses to me are cousins, 8 houses away is another and one road away is another. The Village is also very close knit and typically by now would have been at least a hundred persons at the home.

For me I generally hold no regrets but just have some sadness as she for the first time since doing it didn't come and tie a Rakhi for me weekend gone because she knew my household fairly strict with our protocols.

Wish you and your family comfort during these trying times.

[drchaos]

Sorry for your loss, this past year and a half has been brutal and seen the loss of many loved ones due covid and non covid related causes.

[hover11]

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/e ... ium=social


Strange I thought the hospital would test All patients regardless of symptoms or not

[Mmoney607]

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/elderly-patients-worried-over-covid-scare-at-sando-hospital/article_2a0db89c-0733-11ec-8cd7-ef7bd69e7578.html#utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


Strange I thought the hospital would test All patients regardless of symptoms or not

Testing remains a joke 20 months into a pandemic but yet still the CMO getting honorary doctorate.

[Ben_spanna]

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

[hover11]

URP Employee Charged with Immunization Card Scam

TERRY GARIB appeared before Magistrate Armina Mohammed-Deonarinesingh yesterday charged with forgery of immunization cards with intent to deceive.

The accused was not called upon to plead as the charge was laid indictably by PC Jagroop of the San Fernando Police Station.

The 52-year-old Unemployment Relief Programme (URP) employee of Mt. Stewart Village, Princes Town, was placed on $150,000 bail and was ordered to surrender his passport as part of his bail conditions.

He will reappear before the San Fernando Magistrates’ Court on September14th.

The incident arose out of a report made by security personnel at the San Fernando General Hospital who observed that the accused was allegedly distributing immunization cards concerning COVID-19 vaccinations to persons hired by him to prepare same.

During the course of the investigation, detectives allegedly discovered that a man used a template of a genuine COVID-19 immunization card to make the cards. He was later seen distributing the fake cards.

The suspect was also reportedly found to be in possession of a stamp which bore the words “The Ministry of Health” and which originated from the Ste Madeleine Health Facility.

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August 27th, 2021
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[adnj]

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.

[Dohplaydat]

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.

Their model keeps predicting an upcoming spike,I noticed it's been pushed back but their model also relies on the quality of data. ... Which presents a problem as things have changed a bit.

I've noticed a few things recently which indicates we aren't testing enough or making testing easier/more accessible

1. My friend's uncle had mild Covid symptoms after being exposed to someone with Covid at a wake. He was fully vaccinated with Sinopharm though. He went in to get tested at St James and was turned away by them saying if he fully vaccinated why he coming to get tested.

2. Another fully vaccinated person I know had symptoms jus a few days ago and when I told her to get tested she didn't want to believing that even if she had it, the tests were still pointless as all her family vaccinated. I left her alone but next thing I see is that she gone for a haircut. Steups.

[hover11]

Could it be this would also be the same behaviour when persons come from the airport and are fully vaccinated even though they had a covid positive person sitting next to them on the flight.

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.

Their model keeps pedicuring an upcoming spike,I noticed it's been pushed back but their model also relies on the quality of data.

I've noticed a few things recently which indicates we aren't testing enough or making testing easier.

1. My friend's uncle had Covid mild symptoms after being exposed to someone with Covid at a wake. He was fully vaccinated with Sinopharm though. He went in to get tested at St James and was turned away by them saying if he fully vaccinated why he coming to get tested.

2. Another fully vaccinated person I know had symptoms jus a few days ago and when I told her to get tested she didn't want to believing that even if she had it, the tests were pointless. She said all her family vaccinated so what's the point. I left her alone but next thing I see is that she gone for a haircut. Steups.

[adnj]

Irrespective of where the actual data lies within the confidence interval (the graph is the centerpoint), what you can take away with a very high level of confidence:

- infections are not likely to decrease this year.
- deaths are not likely to decrease this year.
- the number of infection cases are greater than what is actually being captured by testing.

[redmanjp]

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.

that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!

[hover11]

Christmas season is the period with the most gatherings ,also more family from foreign visiting so wouldn't doubt it

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.

that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!

[DMan7]

It would be good if people post their replies to messages below the quoted text rather than above it. That is really weird and disorienting.

[hover11]

9 deaths

[adnj]

Repost

COVID-19 vaccines may trigger superimmunity in people who had SARS long ago

Aug. 18, 2021

Almost 20 years before SARS-CoV-2, a related and even more lethal coronavirus sowed panic, killing nearly 10% of the 8000 people who became infected. But the 2003 outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) may have left some survivors with a gift. Former SARS patients who have been vaccinated against COVID-19 appear able to fend off all variants of SARS-CoV-2 in circulation, as well as ones that may soon emerge, a new study suggests. Their formidable antibodies may even protect against coronaviruses in other species that have yet to make the jump into humans—and may hold clues to how to make a so-called pancoronavirus vaccine that could forestall future outbreaks.



https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/08 ... s-long-ago

[adnj]

There is alot of talk going around that our Actual figures are not being expressed and that it may in fact be more than twice the statistics of Active cases roaming freely... But carry on with unessential shopping and liming .....

Actual numbers for nearly every nation are higher than what is being reported. To get actual numbers, EVERYONE would need to be tested.

The estimated number of daily infections is currently about 1200 cases.

that projection assumes delta arriving i suppose? if not i wont expect it to increase as vax rates increase. but it would increase once delta arrives. of so expect another lockdown at the worst possible time of the year- the Christmas shopping season!

Model inputs include:

- for the southern PAHO, Delta will only start to influence projection but Gamma remains dominant.

- vaccination rates are expected to increase due to changing attitudes and availability.

- Beta variant at zero percent dominance.

- 65% vaccine acceptance.

- mobility is 20% below baseline

- mask wearing is at 80%.

[Dohplaydat]

Deaths continue to be very high at 7 a day, all these lives could have been saved if they took the vaccine.