Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

[zoom rader]

ppl knew rowlee & impinbutt had every intention of fully implementing this new excuse to bleed ppl pockets BEFORE they won the 2015 election, even after the "do so" gesture movement that lost the peeonem the previous 2010 election. They, both rowlee & impinbutt openly stated that was their intention. & ppl STILL vote to put them there

That, in and of itself, speaks volumes.

More than 80% of rowlee and imps supporters doh own any property . They mostly living in HDC housing and aint paying sheit.
Soon they will decriminalize marijuana and they will get all the votes needed

All yuh thing it's joke when I said all this is a non afro tax.

[shake d livin wake d dead]

going off the road here but....there are intentions of having the public pay more in their NIS contributions

[ProtonPowder]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

[rspann]

^Makes one wonder what motivated them to vote for the PNM. Maybe they don't own property so the tax was inconsequential to them.

Or maybe there were more important considerations like making sure the Calcutta ship didn't dock.

Whatever the reason, we are where we are and we know what is to come. Those couple of years after the next election go have pressure high enough to buss some people pipe:

*Property Tax
*Devaluation
*Fuel Increases
*Utility Increase
Explain yuh chain

Wait for it...

[The_Honourable]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

Question Proton,

I know that the old land and building system was repealed but i'm getting mixed answers about paying taxes for 2009 and before. Is tax collections up to 2009 still being accepted today? or is it that you stopped collecting taxes period? Example, a property that has L&B taxes outstanding between 2006-2009, can i go in tomorrow morning and pay it off?

[ProtonPowder]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

Question Proton,

I know that the old land and building system was repealed but i'm getting mixed answers about paying taxes for 2009 and before. Is tax collections up to 2009 still being accepted today? or is it that you stopped collecting taxes period? Example, a property that has L&B taxes outstanding between 2006-2009, can i go in tomorrow morning and pay it off?

Outstanding L&B taxes would have to be eventually cleared yes, namely if the property changes ownership and the WASA bill has to go on to the new owner's name, they generally require a letter stating that all taxes up to 2009 have been paid, since the ATV on the WASA bill is linked directly to your L&B assessment number, and hence how much you actually pay to them quarterly.

Now as to where and how long it will take, prepare for some headache and some runaround between revenue office and your local city/borough corporation.

[zoom rader]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

Dem is PNM injuns

[rspann]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

Dem is PNM injuns

They know allyuh indians not letting non indians inside because allyuh fraid they going to rob allyuh, so they training indians to do the job.

[zoom rader]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

Dem is PNM injuns

They know allyuh indians not letting non indians inside because allyuh fraid they going to rob allyuh, so they training indians to do the job.

But in all seriousness, when I doing goverment bussiness I advoid dealing with injuns. Their attitude stinks

[The_Honourable]

They are currently holding interviews for more field assessors in twin towers. They will be trained in UWI during the summer and then given 3 year contracts to do property assessments.

Once again reiterating that this tax will not be payable before election. Zoomerz should walk into a valuation division office and see how much of the staff is (((pnm))). He will be sorely disappointed.

Question Proton,

I know that the old land and building system was repealed but i'm getting mixed answers about paying taxes for 2009 and before. Is tax collections up to 2009 still being accepted today? or is it that you stopped collecting taxes period? Example, a property that has L&B taxes outstanding between 2006-2009, can i go in tomorrow morning and pay it off?

Outstanding L&B taxes would have to be eventually cleared yes, namely if the property changes ownership and the WASA bill has to go on to the new owner's name, they generally require a letter stating that all taxes up to 2009 have been paid, since the ATV on the WASA bill is linked directly to your L&B assessment number, and hence how much you actually pay to them quarterly.

Now as to where and how long it will take, prepare for some headache and some runaround between revenue office and your local city/borough corporation.

Thanks for this

Yeah i'm picking up the headache already. Study it is better to do nothing than attempt to do something right in this case

[ADONI]

Soon enough we will be paying first world taxes, for third world returns...

[zoom rader]

Soon enough we will be paying first world taxes, for third world returns...

As long as PNM running the show it will be.

[88sins]

Soon enough we will be paying first world taxes, for third world returns...

wouldn't be that bad if it end up that way. we already paying 1st world taxes for zero returns right now anyway.

[Trinispougla]

Soon enough we will be paying first world taxes, for third world returns...

wouldn't be that bad if it end up that way. we already paying 1st world taxes for zero returns right now anyway.

hahahahaha.....yuh joking right. TT paying less than third world taxes brother. When 45%-49% of your salary goes into taxes....like the belgiums and sweedens and finlands that u guys love to mention, then you are paying first world taxes

[ProtonPowder]

I wish it had more transparency into the average property taxes to be paid in certain areas which were already calculated.

There are thousands which have already been done, and the figures even in the upscale areas are much less than you'd think. In a lot of the areas removed from densely populated locations, unless you have a very large house, it struggling to cross the minimum ARV and will thus be brought up to the minimum.

If you want to know what the minimum is, just search around for past newspaper articles from ~1 year ago using google.

[88sins]

the minimum arv for buildings as stated by clown inbutt was 18K, supposedly 1500/month, & the tax on that was said to be approximately 480 P.A.
Proton, I seriously doubt what you saying about houses in rural areas, seeing what property rentals are going for, even using the outdated data they using. We also have to remember, they valuing arv of the land as well as the house. and many properties in those rural areas, even though the house might not be substantial in size, the lands tied to those houses are often worth more than the houses.

there's a lot of people especially in south, with plenty under utilized lands that aren't planted with anything so they aren't even supposed to be classed as agricultural properties. those people go feel it.

[zoom rader]

the minimum arv for buildings as stated by clown inbutt was 18K, supposedly 1500/month, & the tax on that was said to be approximately 480 P.A.
Proton, I seriously doubt what you saying about houses in rural areas, seeing what property rentals are going for, even using the outdated data they using. We also have to remember, they valuing arv of the land as well as the house. and many properties in those rural areas, even though the house might not be substantial in size, the lands tied to those houses are often worth more than the houses.

there's a lot of people especially in south, with plenty under utilized lands that aren't planted with anything so they aren't even supposed to be classed as agricultural properties. those people go feel it.

Suffer non PNM ppl suffer

Non PNM ppl tax in yuh MC

[ProtonPowder]

the minimum arv for buildings as stated by clown inbutt was 18K, supposedly 1500/month, & the tax on that was said to be approximately 480 P.A.
Proton, I seriously doubt what you saying about houses in rural areas, seeing what property rentals are going for, even using the outdated data they using. We also have to remember, they valuing arv of the land as well as the house. and many properties in those rural areas, even though the house might not be substantial in size, the lands tied to those houses are often worth more than the houses.

there's a lot of people especially in south, with plenty under utilized lands that aren't planted with anything so they aren't even supposed to be classed as agricultural properties. those people go feel it.

For those with large acreages of agriculturals with a house on it, it is classed as homestead. One lot from the acreage goes as residential and the house ARV will be calculated, while for the rest of the agricultural land, the tax is calculated as 1% of 90% of 2% of the capital value of the agricultural land and any agricultural buildings thereon. If the agricultural land is worth $1m the tax will be calculated as $180.00

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /58.03.pdf
page 22 for ARV calculation

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /76.04.pdf
page 27 for tax calculation

[88sins]

the minimum arv for buildings as stated by clown inbutt was 18K, supposedly 1500/month, & the tax on that was said to be approximately 480 P.A.
Proton, I seriously doubt what you saying about houses in rural areas, seeing what property rentals are going for, even using the outdated data they using. We also have to remember, they valuing arv of the land as well as the house. and many properties in those rural areas, even though the house might not be substantial in size, the lands tied to those houses are often worth more than the houses.

there's a lot of people especially in south, with plenty under utilized lands that aren't planted with anything so they aren't even supposed to be classed as agricultural properties. those people go feel it.

For those with large acreages of agriculturals with a house on it, it is classed as homestead. One lot from the acreage goes as residential and the house ARV will be calculated, while for the rest of the agricultural land, the tax is calculated as 1% of 90% of 2% of the capital value of the agricultural land and any agricultural buildings thereon. If the agricultural land is worth $1m the tax will be calculated as $180.00

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /58.03.pdf
page 22 for ARV calculation

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /76.04.pdf
page 27 for tax calculation[/quote
And what happens with those ppl living on a small section of the lands they own and have large expanses of lands that are NOT used for agriculture?

[ProtonPowder]

the minimum arv for buildings as stated by clown inbutt was 18K, supposedly 1500/month, & the tax on that was said to be approximately 480 P.A.
Proton, I seriously doubt what you saying about houses in rural areas, seeing what property rentals are going for, even using the outdated data they using. We also have to remember, they valuing arv of the land as well as the house. and many properties in those rural areas, even though the house might not be substantial in size, the lands tied to those houses are often worth more than the houses.

there's a lot of people especially in south, with plenty under utilized lands that aren't planted with anything so they aren't even supposed to be classed as agricultural properties. those people go feel it.

For those with large acreages of agriculturals with a house on it, it is classed as homestead. One lot from the acreage goes as residential and the house ARV will be calculated, while for the rest of the agricultural land, the tax is calculated as 1% of 90% of 2% of the capital value of the agricultural land and any agricultural buildings thereon. If the agricultural land is worth $1m the tax will be calculated as $180.00

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /58.03.pdf
page 22 for ARV calculation

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /76.04.pdf
page 27 for tax calculation[/quote
And what happens with those ppl living on a small section of the lands they own and have large expanses of lands that are NOT used for agriculture?

You made a realistic scenario and I explained exactly why the tax is not inequitable. Now you coming with a really stupid one.

Yes. The poor, scared directors of Palmiste Estates and Maruni Enterprises, in whose asset portfolios dozens of plots of vacant land sit. I, for one, tremble at the thought of it.

Poor Coosal, in whose asset portfolios sit vast swathes of light industrial property.

Poor proprieters and money launderers, in whose asset portfolios sit dozens of plots of commercial land bought and cleared for triple market value for no other reason than to burn some liquid money.

Come better than that nah.

[88sins]

the minimum arv for buildings as stated by clown inbutt was 18K, supposedly 1500/month, & the tax on that was said to be approximately 480 P.A.
Proton, I seriously doubt what you saying about houses in rural areas, seeing what property rentals are going for, even using the outdated data they using. We also have to remember, they valuing arv of the land as well as the house. and many properties in those rural areas, even though the house might not be substantial in size, the lands tied to those houses are often worth more than the houses.

there's a lot of people especially in south, with plenty under utilized lands that aren't planted with anything so they aren't even supposed to be classed as agricultural properties. those people go feel it.

For those with large acreages of agriculturals with a house on it, it is classed as homestead. One lot from the acreage goes as residential and the house ARV will be calculated, while for the rest of the agricultural land, the tax is calculated as 1% of 90% of 2% of the capital value of the agricultural land and any agricultural buildings thereon. If the agricultural land is worth $1m the tax will be calculated as $180.00

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /58.03.pdf
page 22 for ARV calculation

http://rgd.legalaffairs.gov.tt/laws2/al ... /76.04.pdf
page 27 for tax calculation[/quote
And what happens with those ppl living on a small section of the lands they own and have large expanses of lands that are NOT used for agriculture?

You made a realistic scenario and I explained exactly why the tax is not inequitable. Now you coming with a really stupid one.

Yes. The poor, scared directors of Palmiste Estates and Maruni Enterprises, in whose asset portfolios dozens of plots of vacant land sit. I, for one, tremble at the thought of it.

Poor Coosal, in whose asset portfolios sit vast swathes of light industrial property.

Poor proprieters and money launderers, in whose asset portfolios sit dozens of plots of commercial land bought and cleared for triple market value for no other reason than to burn some liquid money.

Come better than that nah.

Just as I suspected, you in fact a tripe threat. You are dense, dunce & dotish.
As a matter of fact, I presented the exact same scenario in both my posts. Because you might think you replied to my post, but you in fact did not. so I put it differently for your simple mind to understand. You answered a question I never asked about ppl living in homes on vast expanses of agricultural lands. I mentioned ppl living on vast expanses of lands that are not planted and are NOT agricultural lands.


But never mind, you need not respond to this post since I already have the answer I was looking for.

[ProtonPowder]

Just as I suspected, you in fact a tripe threat. You are dense, dunce & dotish.
As a matter of fact, I presented the exact same scenario in both my posts. Because you might think you replied to my post, but you in fact did not. so I put it differently for your simple mind to understand. You answered a question I never asked about ppl living in homes on vast expanses of agricultural lands. I mentioned ppl living on vast expanses of lands that are not planted and are NOT agricultural lands.


But never mind, you need not respond to this post since I already have the answer I was looking for.

It's because I answered it on the second response.

Now i read your response and wondered why someone would get so angry on the internet. Quick to run to insults.

The basis of your hollow rhetoric is that for some ungodly reason, someone would have a single house built on a large expanse of industrial or commercial lands. If a piece of single use residential land is >1A, chances are its actually agricultural. If is >1A only the house is valued unless the ARV resulting from capital value of the land is more, such as when a tiny house is built on expensive land. And just because agricultural land is not planted, doesnt mean it isnt agricultural.

Maybe you can try to take another hollow jab. You remind me of PEA with that anger.

[88sins]

me? angry? at you? son, try to wrap your mind around this.

you might be important to someone somewhere, but you're not important enough to me to make me angry.

[ProtonPowder]

me? angry? at you? son, try to wrap your mind around this.

you might be important to someone somewhere, but you're not important enough to me to make me angry.

All that anger, and now backtracking. The belittling language too, it pretty telling.

Take it easy on yourself man. If you have dreams of losing your teeth, you grinding them in your sleep. Unresolved anger can kill you slowly.

[88sins]

proton, your emotions, they just run you don't they lol.
But I don't get why u so sensitive tho, about me stating a very true and extremely easy to understand fact that you are of no importance to me. I strongly recommend that address that sensitivity issue before it manifests in physical changes like lactation and menstruation

btw, I don't backtrack, backpedal, reverse, retract or however you'd like to say it. If I make an error, I own it and if need be apologize accordingly. However, in this instance I'm not inclined to do either, because I'm still of the firm impression you're dense, dunce and dotish. And you may not comprehend this, but me thinking and openly stating what I think about you doesn't equate to me being angry, it just means I think you're an idiot.

anyway, have a happy Friday.

[zoom rader]

proton, your emotions, they just run you don't they lol.
But I don't get why u so sensitive tho, about me stating a very true and extremely easy to understand fact that you are of no importance to me. I strongly recommend that address that sensitivity issue before it manifests in physical changes like lactation and menstruation

btw, I don't backtrack, backpedal, reverse, retract or however you'd like to say it. If I make an error, I own it and if need be apologize accordingly. However, in this instance I'm not inclined to do either, because I'm still of the firm impression you're dense, dunce and dotish. And you may not comprehend this, but me thinking and openly stating what I think about you doesn't equate to me being angry, it just means I think you're an idiot.

anyway, have a happy Friday.

This is some serious

[ProtonPowder]

proton, your emotions, they just run you don't they lol.
But I don't get why u so sensitive tho, about me stating a very true and extremely easy to understand fact that you are of no importance to me. I strongly recommend that address that sensitivity issue before it manifests in physical changes like lactation and menstruation

btw, I don't backtrack, backpedal, reverse, retract or however you'd like to say it. If I make an error, I own it and if need be apologize accordingly. However, in this instance I'm not inclined to do either, because I'm still of the firm impression you're dense, dunce and dotish. And you may not comprehend this, but me thinking and openly stating what I think about you doesn't equate to me being angry, it just means I think you're an idiot.

anyway, have a happy Friday.

Some real projection going on here. While you saying that I sensitive, you act the exact way you accuse me of acting. In one of the few threads where responses coming through and citing laws and calculations, you calling names to the poster.

I have yet to see you respond to the point i made to your question.

[The_Honourable]

West: Government does not anticipate Property Tax being due this year



Minister in the Ministry of Finance, Allyson West, says Government does not anticipate Property Tax being due this year as valuations are still progressing slowly while they await the outcome of the matter that is currently before the courts.

While Minister Colm Imbert announced a tax amnesty for three months, yesterday there was no word on the due date for property tax payments.

In 2017, the Ministry of Finance put out a press release requesting property owners to complete and submit valuation forms along with relevant documents.

But that was challenged by activist Devant Maharaj and a legal team led by former AG Anand Ramlogan.

They filed for judicial review saying the request was illegal based on Section 6 of the Valuations of Land Act.

But almost one year later Government won the matter in the High Court. Justice Jacqueline Wilson said she believed that the request to submit property details was voluntary.

The Valuations Commission was then ordered to publish notices in the daily newspapers informing the public that the submission process is voluntary.

The matter is now pending to be heard in the Appeal Court.

Meanwhile, Colm Imbert had previously assured citizens that homeowners would not be required to make retroactive payments on Property Tax.

Source: http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/wes ... g-due-year

[ProtonPowder]

I find Devant taking long to appeal this case jed. Was legit hoping that it would reach the JCPC by now.

[88sins]

after so many years of no property tax being paid or collected, I want everyone honest opinion

if they were to repeal the property tax act and abolish property tax entirely. who here would be against that? keeping in mind that there's no way to tell what those monies will be used for or if it will benefit you or your community in any way, ever.