COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[MaxPower]

Will our black brothers and sisters ever get a break?

They will when people like this shut their trap.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/farrakhan-calls-the-vaccine-the-white-mans-death-plan

So Black Lives don’t matter then??

All that protest, riot, loot, burn and destroy for nothing?

[aaron17]

Sri Lanka to impose nationwide lockdown – as it happened

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-20/

Note well they mostly used sinopharm similar to us

Taken from the article "About a quarter of Sri Lanka’s population has been fully vaccinated, a majority of them with China’s Sinopharm vaccine."

So for us will be a stricter lockdown?

[hover11]

Expect another lockdown for sure it will happen as sudden as the rest

Sri Lanka to impose nationwide lockdown – as it happened

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-20/

Note well they mostly used sinopharm similar to us

Taken from the article "About a quarter of Sri Lanka’s population has been fully vaccinated, a majority of them with China’s Sinopharm vaccine."

So for us will be a stricter lockdown?

[timelapse]

Will our black brothers and sisters ever get a break?

They will when people like this shut their trap.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/farrakhan-calls-the-vaccine-the-white-mans-death-plan

So Black Lives don’t matter then??

All that protest, riot, loot, burn and destroy for nothing?

'Black' lives only matter to the wallets of their leaders

[st7]

Sri Lanka to impose nationwide lockdown – as it happened

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-20/

Note well they mostly used sinopharm similar to us

Taken from the article "About a quarter of Sri Lanka’s population has been fully vaccinated, a majority of them with China’s Sinopharm vaccine."

what does the sinopharm have to do anything about it when 3/4 of the population arent fully vaccinated?

[sMASH]

what is the authorities's position on exhaust valves for face masks?

[gastly369]

Sri Lanka to impose nationwide lockdown – as it happened

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-paci ... 021-08-20/

Note well they mostly used sinopharm similar to us

Taken from the article "About a quarter of Sri Lanka’s population has been fully vaccinated, a majority of them with China’s Sinopharm vaccine."

what does the sinopharm have to do anything about it when 3/4 of the population arent fully vaccinated?

De maths not mathsinnn

[De Dragon]

So 1st, lockdown didn't work, solution, more lockdown.
Then masks didn't work, solution, wear two masks.
Now, vaccines not working, take more vaccines.

Isn't this like Apple bringing out a new iPhone every year?

Hello Mmoney607,

Masks work when worn EFFECTIVELY and PROPERLY.

The same goes for sanitizing.

Many people are not listening and inconsistency has its consequences.

People getting Covid have to follow the examples of people who are NOT getting Covid.

Yes folks Remember to Sanitize your hands so you don't inhale those respiratory droplets ... Cause that's how the virus spread ... DUH!!!

And don't forget too wear a non 95 mask (i.e surgical and cloth) that has no certification to stop the release or inhalation of micro respiratory droplets.

Come one guys why can't you just trust the public healthcare experts and politicians who said to not wear masks ... Then changed their minds and said to wear them.

Again, why don't you let a Covid infected person dig their nose, and then immediately put their finger up your nose if you're so confident?

[Mmoney607]

Well those blacks got be Trump supporters because according to CNN, ABC and NBC, only Trump supporters not vaccinated and don't wear mask.

Where did any network print or say that? Any actual stories to support your story? Otherwise, you're just making sh!t up.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/0 ... ac-vpx.cnn

I never heard them ask black people why they not getting vaccinated

[adnj]

what is the authorities's position on exhaust valves for face masks?

https://www.dogpile.com/

[adnj]

Well those blacks got be Trump supporters because according to CNN, ABC and NBC, only Trump supporters not vaccinated and don't wear mask.

Where did any network print or say that? Any actual stories to support your story? Otherwise, you're just making sh!t up.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/0 ... ac-vpx.cnn

I never heard them ask black people why they not getting vaccinated

Maybe they just didn't get around to asking you, bro.

[Mmoney607]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

[Mmoney607]

Well those blacks got be Trump supporters because according to CNN, ABC and NBC, only Trump supporters not vaccinated and don't wear mask.

Where did any network print or say that? Any actual stories to support your story? Otherwise, you're just making sh!t up.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2021/0 ... ac-vpx.cnn

I never heard them ask black people why they not getting vaccinated

Maybe they just didn't get around to asking you, bro.

Why the king of black people, lebron, can't say if he and his family have been vaccinated? Why is now one asking him?

Look kamla encouraging people to get vaccinated https://m.facebook.com/douglarpolitics/ ... ?__tn__=-R

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

"people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... ction.html

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to mutate, so that original protection may not be effective on new mutations."
https://www.health.com/condition/infect ... ta-variant

"A new paper published in the Journal of Internal Medicine discusses the protection offered by immunity against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), following vaccination as compared to natural infection."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210 ... unity.aspx

[sMASH]

what is the authorities's position on exhaust valves for face masks?

https://www.dogpile.com/

-oh, a link in response to my post.
-i should click it to see what it has
-hmmn, the words dont seem related to anything that might be related to my post.
-hmm, seems like a troll link, in an attempt to be cleaver.

wow, u are so cleaver. i might be even more impressed if i had clicked the link to view the content.

[De Dragon]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

Ask JUHN Scarfy, he did it.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

what is the authorities's position on exhaust valves for face masks?

Does WHO recommend the use of masks with exhalation valves to prevent transmission of COVID-19?
No, WHO does not advise using masks or respirators with exhalation valves. These masks are intended for industrial workers to prevent dust and particles from being breathed in as the valve closes on inhale. However, the valve opens on exhale, making it easier to breathe but also allowing any virus to pass through the valve opening. This makes the mask ineffective at preventing the spread of COVID-19 or any other respiratory virus

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detai ... d-19-masks

[DMan7]

Nobody aint' watch the Ministry of Health press conference today?

[redmanjp]

Nobody aint' watch the Ministry of Health press conference today?

Duane and Dman we thinking alike- i was both reading up on exhaust valves as well as looking at the press conference

-some info in the J&J vaccine included
-rolling ave. over past 7 days is 187. so restaurant opening hasn't caused any bump. we''ll see if retail sector opening has any effect 2 weeks from now.

[Mmoney607]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

"people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... ction.html

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to mutate, so that original protection may not be effective on new mutations."
https://www.health.com/condition/infect ... ta-variant

"A new paper published in the Journal of Internal Medicine discusses the protection offered by immunity against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), following vaccination as compared to natural infection."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210 ... unity.aspx

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... xd-mRJhvx9

WHO study with actual sources says otherwise.

[redmanjp]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

"people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... ction.html

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to mutate, so that original protection may not be effective on new mutations."
https://www.health.com/condition/infect ... ta-variant

"A new paper published in the Journal of Internal Medicine discusses the protection offered by immunity against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), following vaccination as compared to natural infection."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210 ... unity.aspx

so a safe strategy would be to get vaccinated, and then if you get infected later you have T cell response and better immunity. but not getting vaccinated and risking infection first is playing Russian roulette and could land you in hospital or with long covid.

[adnj]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

"people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... ction.html

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to mutate, so that original protection may not be effective on new mutations."
https://www.health.com/condition/infect ... ta-variant

"A new paper published in the Journal of Internal Medicine discusses the protection offered by immunity against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), following vaccination as compared to natural infection."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210 ... unity.aspx

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... xd-mRJhvx9

WHO study with actual sources says otherwise.

Where in the paper that you cite does it say that?

"To conclude, available tests and current knowledge do not tell us about the duration of immunity and protection against reinfection, but recent evidence suggests that natural infection may provide similar protection against symptomatic disease as vaccination, at least for the available follow up period. The emergence of variants of concern poses challenges and their potential to evade immunity elicited by either natural infection or by vaccination, needs to be closely monitored."

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

"people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus. These data further indicate that COVID-19 vaccines offer better protection than natural immunity alone and that vaccines, even after prior infection, help prevent reinfections."
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021 ... ction.html

"SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, continues to mutate, so that original protection may not be effective on new mutations."
https://www.health.com/condition/infect ... ta-variant

"A new paper published in the Journal of Internal Medicine discusses the protection offered by immunity against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), which is caused by the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), following vaccination as compared to natural infection."
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20210 ... unity.aspx

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... xd-mRJhvx9

WHO study with actual sources says otherwise.

A more recent report from the WHO states that those who've had Covid should still take the vaccine.

"After getting COVID, people do get an immune response, but this varies from person to person and it depends on whether you had a mild infection or whether you had more severe infection. And we know from many studies now that if you've had a very mild or asymptomatic infection, then many people may have very low levels of antibodies that they form. So this is why we still recommend that even if you've had COVID infection, that you should go ahead and take the vaccination when it's available to you, because the vaccine then serves as a boost to the immune system."
https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease ... e-covid-19

[drchaos]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

Getting vaccinated post infection makes no sense at this point. According to the Israel study.

Plus why risk a vaccine reaction when you have significant protection? Chance is tiny but still there.


Plus you have better protection against variants, since natural immunity targets multiple epitopes on the different antigens. Vaccine immunity only trains your immune system to look for the spike protein.

[aaron17]

quack?

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ He's currently being sued by his former employers. Baylor Scott & White Health sued former employee and cardiologist Peter McCullough, MD, last week, alleging that he illegitimately affiliated himself with its facilities when promoting controversial views about COVID-19.
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-re ... ives/93936

[drchaos]

You go against the narrative and you will be destroyed.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

He's giving false information.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

Getting vaccinated post infection makes no sense at this point. According to the Israel study.

Plus why risk a vaccine reaction when you have significant protection? Chance is tiny but still there.


Plus you have better protection against variants, since natural immunity targets multiple epitopes on the different antigens. Vaccine immunity only trains your immune system to look for the spike protein.

The studies show 2x more likely to get covid again without the vaccine

[adnj]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

Getting vaccinated post infection makes no sense at this point. According to the Israel study.

Plus why risk a vaccine reaction when you have significant protection? Chance is tiny but still there.


Plus you have better protection against variants, since natural immunity targets multiple epitopes on the different antigens. Vaccine immunity only trains your immune system to look for the spike protein.

That is absolute bullsh:t. The vaccine is tailored to find the portion of the virus that is least likely to mutate if their is a possibility to build a transport vector.

Why keep typing the same stupidass nonsense over and over?

[drchaos]

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58270098

You get a broader immune response after being infected with the virus than vaccination.
Whether you've had Moderna or Pfizer or Oxford-AstraZeneca, your body is learning to spot just one thing - the spike protein.
This is the critical part of the virus to make antibodies to, and the results - by keeping most out of hospital - have been spectacular.
But having the other 28 proteins to target too, would give T-cells far more to go at.
"That means if you had a real humdinger of an infection, you may have better immunity to any new variants that pop up as you have immunity to more than just spike," said Prof Riley.

What you think about getting vaccinated after infection? Is the increased protection significant? Can the vaccine erase what protection the natural infection provided?

Getting vaccinated post infection makes no sense at this point. According to the Israel study.

Plus why risk a vaccine reaction when you have significant protection? Chance is tiny but still there.


Plus you have better protection against variants, since natural immunity targets multiple epitopes on the different antigens. Vaccine immunity only trains your immune system to look for the spike protein.

That is absolute bullsh:t. The vaccine is tailored to find the portion of the virus that is least likely to mutate if their is a possibility to build a transport vector.

Why keep typing the same stupidass nonsense over and over?

This guy is retarded The whole point of these new variants is that there are mutations on the spike protein hence the reduction in efficacy. In less than 6 months from vaccine being widely available the virus is doing what this guy claims its not supposed to do ... Cause the vaccine 'IS TAILORED"

Sounds like is tailored to do the opposite of your dotish statement